Ritualist Build That Will Spell The End For 55 Monks!!!

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 02:20 - 1

IMPORTANT EDIT: This build does not work, it seems that the variables for VWK were mixed around the wrong way. Thanks to Ensign for pointing this out.

As there is no build forum for Ritualists, I decided to post my build here, because It's so damn awesome, I just wanna share it with you guys

EDIT: NOT RECOMMENDED FOR PvP

Build Name: Khanhei's Ritualist
Profession: Ritualist/Monk

Uses: Farming, and PvE Tanking.

Stats:
Spawning Power: 3 (0+3)
Channeling Magic: 14 (10+3+1)
Restoration Magic: 14 (11+3)
Communing: 3 (0+3)
Protection Prayers: 10

Total points spent: 199

Equipment:
Hopefully, anything that's simular to the monks tattoos
(i.e. armour with an energy boost)

Weapon? ANYTHING!!! YOU DON'T NEED AN OFF-HAND FOR THIS BUILD!!!!
[EDIT] actually, you won't even need a weapon, because you will be holding Khanhei's ashes all the time (see below)

Skills set:
Protective Spirit (Protection)
Vengeful Was Khanhei (Restoration [elite])
Ancestors' Rage (Channeling)
Essence Bond (None)
Balthazar's Spirit (Smiting)
Holy Veil (None)

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12 Mar 2006 at 02:31 - 2

interesting but I'll hold off from anything further till I can see it work...

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12 Mar 2006 at 02:33 - 3

Mercury Angel

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12 Mar 2006 at 02:33 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

Use the vengeful weapon spell instead of that elite. The weapon spell last for 8 seconds, 5 recharge, 5e, 1 sec cast. It will steal 58 life each time they hit you.

Much better than that crappy elite. The weapon spell ends after a single hit, afaik. [Edit: Not basing this off of the description, but actually gameplay experience during the factions event. I came across Vengeful Weapon a few times.]

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 02:37 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

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12 Mar 2006 at 02:38 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercury Angel

The weapon spell ends after a single hit, afaik. [Edit: Not basing this off of the description, but actually gameplay experience during the factions event. I came across Vengeful Weapon a few times.] I wish they would put stuff like that in the descriptions. They need to fire who ever is doing the wording for this game. They like to leave out a lot of details on skills.

Yes that is a less than sub par elite. Besides this build were would you ever run that?

The build is good for soloing but that skill is never going to see play otherwise.

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 02:50 - 7

First off, you'll be an invincible tank, therefore making you invaluble in PvE, and
You'll still have energy regen in PVP, which is what cripples 55 monks. and besides. like I said, the Elite can't be shattered.

the only draw back to this build is that peeps might inturrupt Prot spirit, and if not, only has a 1/4 chance of shattering (1/3 if not using holy veil)

and:

Vengeful Weapon:
Weapon spell. for 8 seconds, THE NEXT TIME target ally takes damage from a foe, that ally steals up to [20-68] health from that foe.

read twice b4 Flaming Anet :P

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:05 - 8

wouldnt you only do like 300 damge to an enemy before spirts ended

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:07 - 9

??? you'd just spam the skill!

and besides, 300 damage is a crap load of damage

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:18 - 10

hmmm.. i think its a difficult balance to make.. on the one hand a 55 soloer can do much more dmg with SoJ, but, if this build works out you are invincible, though to combat degen i'd swap veil with watchful spirit, considering if youre in an area with hexes, chances are theyve got a way to knock out prot spirit somehow

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:24 - 11

not a bad idea, then again, why not take both?

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:26 - 12

um, the fact that it is not an enchantment is NOT a good thing. If it isn't shattered, then it is better to have it last longer with enchant mods.

If it IS shattered, say thank you to god, because otherwise it would have been prot spirit.

In addition, this build would never do enough damage to get you through UW

55 monk lives on

Haggard

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:29 - 13

i think it should be viewed of as more of a tank than a damage dealer ~ albeit as somebody once said on these forums, stance tank + healing seed = godmode

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:31 - 14

shhhhhhhhh don't post things that hurt the 55 monks or the suckers wont buy any of the -50 items ive stocked up on for the possible discontinuation.

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:31 - 15

well, with lvl 15 restoration, VWK lasts 35 SECONDS AND HAS A 20 SECOND RECHARGE TIME, if it lasts any longer, they might as well make it an enchantment spell.

and the point of the 55 monk is not to do dmg in the UW, it is to tank while the SS necros SS's everyone's arse :P

and Prot spirit has a 0.25 cast time, so does it really matter whether or not they shatter it?

and if so, you having 105HP instead of 55 HP, you can tank more hits while NOT enchanted.

Viva La ritualist!

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:32 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by master_ranger_matt

shhhhhhhhh don't post things that hurt the 55 monks or the suckers wont buy any of the -50 items ive stocked up on for the possible discontinuation. roflmao.

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:39 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

and Prot spirit has a 0.25 cast time, so does it really matter whether or not they shatter it?
Viva La ritualist! Yes it does matter if they shatter it, because then you wont have prot spirit on you.

SaintGreg

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:41 - 18

How would the birth of 105 hp ritualists be the end of 55 hp monks?

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:42 - 19

less costly, no need for a weapon, more reliable (at tanking).

therefore, more will probably revert to this build.

EDIT: I will admit though, that this build lacks a good damage spell, but hey, that's what your 2/3 empty slots are for.

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 03:46 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggard

Yes it does matter if they shatter it, because then you wont have prot spirit on you. for half a second, maybe, and besides, VWK will cover for you while casting for that 1/4 of a second.

EDIT: sry bout all the double posting btw.

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 04:21 - 21

bump.

twicky_kid

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12 Mar 2006 at 05:01 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

Vengeful Weapon:
Weapon spell. for 8 seconds, THE NEXT TIME target ally takes damage from a foe, that ally steals up to [20-68] health from that foe.

read twice b4 Flaming Anet :P Dark fury reads the same way but gives you adrenaline each time you hit.

Read other skills with the same description that act differently. thanx have a nice day.

Besides prot spirit is the heart of 55 and 105 builds. Without PS they would not exist period so if its shattered or rended you are dead. Especially in UW when they can kill you in 1 hit without it. Don't know how you think you are going to survive when aaxets do 150+ dmg a hit without using PS.

You have a good build for solo farming in prophecies. Doesn't mean you'll be able to use it in factions.

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 05:08 - 23

you're missing the point entirely;

This build was made so that there is no need for Mending, or healing breeze, 55 monking for noobs, if you will.

without these other spells, you will use the amount of nrg you have more efficiently. (and Healing breeze was too easy to interupt neway)

Blind Rage

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12 Mar 2006 at 05:25 - 24

whats healing spirit?

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12 Mar 2006 at 05:32 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

You'll still have energy regen in PVP, which is what cripples 55 monks. What cripples 55 monks in PvP is that enchantment removal and life stealing are so common. One Vamp Gaze or Rend Enchantment and you die horribly. This build has the same problems. Don't take this build into PvP above Random Arena. In PvE, however, it should work quite well.

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 05:46 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Rage

whats healing spirit? er sry, typo, meant to be "healing breeze"

and ty, esrever

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12 Mar 2006 at 05:48 - 27

ooooo looks like fun. neat idea

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 05:49 - 28

thanks

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12 Mar 2006 at 05:59 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggard

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12 Mar 2006 at 06:10 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

TIP: have an Mo/N with SS instead of SoJ mate, it works MUCH better

With the current builds it doesn't. SoJ prevents you from getting interrupted by timing your spells in between attacks.

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12 Mar 2006 at 08:09 - 31

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 08:22 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slimcea

I don't think this will work very well though. It'll be perfect for fighting Melee mobs, but if you run into AoE spellcasters (e.g. Hydra's casting Meteor Shower/Inferno) or other AoE stuff such as traps, I don't think you'll be stealing any life back, which means that you're screwed. Vengeful Was Khanhei:
Cost: 5 Cast: 0.75 Recharge: 20
(at level 14 Restoration Magic)
Elite Spell, hold Khanhei's Ashes for [33] seconds. whenever a foe STRIKES you in combat while holding
Khanhei's Ashes, you Steal [11] health that foe.

the term "strikes" in GW means "everytime you are hit for damage"
if you were hit by an AoE spell, the caster of that spell will get sapped.

Homicidal Brainiac

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12 Mar 2006 at 08:33 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

With the current builds it doesn't. SoJ prevents you from getting interrupted by timing your spells in between attacks. that may be true, but SS strikes for more damage over time.

This is because SoJ's knockdown effect halfs the amount of attacks opponents can inflict on you. And besides, creatures casting spells/hexes/whatever on you would do so from a distance, not right up close so they can be knocked down by SoJ AND you can't spam SoJ (obviously because the duration of the spell is lower than the recharge time) where as SS only has a recharge time of 10 secs, and can last for about 17 seconds (at level 11 curses) Which, if used correctly, can cause double damage. (cast on anothre enemy as soon as it recharges, meaning that you have SS on 2 enemies for 7 seconds)

and if you really want enemies to just piss off and leave you alone for a bit, just bring an AoE spell, such as Zealot's fire, or Mark of Pain (if you're an Mo/N) because they deal extra damage, don't cause knockdown, AREN'T elite spells, and cause the enemies to run off and come back again.

There, I think that I explained that thourghly.

Now please let's just get back on topic and PLEASE stop critisising everything I say. What are you, Jeleous?

... and don't say I went off topic there, I was just offering advice.

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12 Mar 2006 at 09:12 - 34

knockdown = able to solo bigger mobs = faster farming...

SoJ > SS on a 55 monk

SS > SoJ on a 55 nec

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12 Mar 2006 at 09:21 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

Vengeful Was Khanhei:
Cost: 5 Cast: 0.75 Recharge: 20
(at level 14 Restoration Magic)
Elite Spell, hold Khanhei's Ashes for [33] seconds. whenever a foe strikes you in combat while holding Khanhei's Ashes, you Steal [11] health that foe. Other way around. At level 14 it lasts for 11 seconds and steals 33 health every time you're struck with an attack.

Full stats on an attribute 0...15 basis are 5...11 second duration, 5...35 life stolen per hit.

I'll let the OP work out how this affects his build.

Peace,
-CxE

Haggard

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12 Mar 2006 at 10:40 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky kid

Besides prot spirit is the heart of 55 and 105 builds. Without PS they would not exist period so if its shattered or rended you are dead. Especially in UW when they can kill you in 1 hit without it. Don't know how you think you are going to survive when aaxets do 150+ dmg a hit without using PS.

I totally agree, if youre surrounded by 14 smites, and get rended, you can NOT recast prot spirit before they next hit you. My 55 partner has managed it once or twice with 3 smites, but thats extreme reflexes combined with insane luck.

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac

the term "strikes" in GW means "everytime you are hit for damage" The term strikes means that, but when followed by "in combat" it means attacks only

And LOL Ensign, nicely spotted

Slimcea

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12 Mar 2006 at 11:05 - 37

If what Ensign and Haggard said is true, then pretty much the build is kinda shot. Nice effort though

On the topic of SoJ vs SS, I feel that SoJ is a much safer damager as compared to SS.

With SoJ, you free up your secondary to use Bonetti's Defence, which synergizes perfectly with Balth's Spirit and serves as an excellent buffer using any long cast time spells. Sure, you can replace it with Guardian, but Guardian has less evasion percentage, doesn't regenerate energy and can be interrupted.

In addition, SoJ allows you the all important window of having casting time when fighting interrupters. Your suggested solutions of Zealot's Fire and Mark of Pain don't work very well at all when faced with ranged enemies e.g. Enchanted Bows, unless you want to run right up to them and cast. SoJ also helps to lower the rate of adrenaline gain for stuff such as Trolls, which prevents them from spamming Disrupting Chop as much.

SS, as has been mentioned, is pretty good for a 55 Nec - you need a Monk secondary, and 55 is more efficient than SoJ given the other options available to you from the Nec and Monk skill lines. Otherwise, for a solo 55 monk, I'd still think that SoJ gives you more farming opportunities. Sure, it may not kill as fast, but it's also a lot safer and more versatile.

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12 Mar 2006 at 12:02 - 38

Don't you drop "large" items when knocked down?

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12 Mar 2006 at 12:30 - 39

you mean like in neverwinter?

not seen it happen so far, but hey..least theat means theres no posts about peeps getting knowcked down and loosing a tresured item in the ub#nderworld everytime their party is whiped out...

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12 Mar 2006 at 12:50 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

Dark fury reads the same way but gives you adrenaline each time you hit.

Read other skills with the same description that act differently. thanx have a nice day.

Besides prot spirit is the heart of 55 and 105 builds. Without PS they would not exist period so if its shattered or rended you are dead. Especially in UW when they can kill you in 1 hit without it. Don't know how you think you are going to survive when aaxets do 150+ dmg a hit without using PS.

You have a good build for solo farming in prophecies. Doesn't mean you'll be able to use it in factions. dont riposts read like that