They fixed Sanctrum Cay :(

Anarki

Anarki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sweden

Almost Famous

W/N

Yup that's right, this mission cant be run anymore
Before update at the end you could camp at one spot and only 2 enemies would attack you, but now they all come
That sucks, if Droknar is still runnable, Amnoon should be too.

Kaospryx

Kaospryx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

...And that's bad why?

premi3r

premi3r

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Oklahoma

BHL

W/

One less spot for runners to get rich.

Sunai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarki
[...] That sucks, if Droknar is still runnable, Amnoon should be too.
Since running is a feature? A right?

Regardless, I've heard a couple people say they can still do it..

Kaospryx

Kaospryx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tough patooties then. I don't think people should complain about bug fixes. In this case, it's almost an exploit, which is what fixes are aimed at. It's fine if people want to get run, but in missions? I think that's a bit over the top, and detracts from the general PVE experience. Just my two cents, though.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

run to viz and fight the second half it's easy~...

addictedtogw

addictedtogw

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

run to viz ,and stand there and use bonnetis/dooylaks, heal sig when necasry, u shouldnt get owned if u pracitce, it isnt nerfed, just a lil harder then it used to be

Anarki

Anarki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sweden

Almost Famous

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Juicey Shake
run to viz and fight the second half it's easy~...
Yea I thought about it too.
And the rest of you. Face it, MMORPGs are free to explore. There's nothing wrong with paying someone to run you, if you can afford it. What's wrong with being run to desert, doing all 3 missions then ascending at lvl 10? 6-7 levels without much effort. This game doesnt even focus on leveling.
Maybe a nice single player The Sim is what you need instead?

dgb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by premi3r
One less spot for runners to get rich.
You don't get rich running sanctum - it's a 500g run max...

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by dgb
You don't get rich running sanctum - it's a 500g run max...
But people usually included it in the run from LA to Amnoon

Sunai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarki
Yea I thought about it too.
And the rest of you. Face it, MMORPGs are free to explore. There's nothing wrong with paying someone to run you, if you can afford it. What's wrong with being run to desert, doing all 3 missions then ascending at lvl 10? 6-7 levels without much effort. This game doesnt even focus on leveling.
Maybe a nice single player The Sim is what you need instead?
The difference is between actually exploring and abusing a glitch to get past a mission far easier than what was intended (even when considering possible running, I mean). Citing another popular running route that is still useable is not a justification.

Grimm

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

Boo. Hoo.

I'm trying really hard to care, but it's not working.

thelessa

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Purple Puzycats

R/Mo

I have never found that sweet spot. Had to fight my way thru every time!

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

can be ran...I almost did is solo with war/mez...all you need is a second runner


saw a guy solo it

war/mo dolyaks and healig breez

Anarki

Anarki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sweden

Almost Famous

W/N

eh, nvm

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by addictedtogw
run to viz ,and stand there and use bonnetis/dooylaks, heal sig when necasry, u shouldnt get owned if u pracitce, it isnt nerfed, just a lil harder then it used to be
That's basically how I did the run before stumbling on the other way. It's more fun than the other way even.

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

boo friggin hoo go run Ascalon to LA.

EDIT: BTW its impossible to run "Sanctrum" Cay. Now Sanctum Cay . . .

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Quote:
Fixed a bug at the end of "Sanctum Cay" that caused the White Mantle to show up too early, or not at all.
Supposedly, it's been fixed now with the next to last update and is back to normal. I've run it before with my w/mo. It's pretty easy if you get the sweet spot.

snikerz

snikerz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rt/A

ahhh its just as ez as it was before, the only skill difference is you take dolyak signet, i just gave it a try now to see if i could do it, first time ftw

ySt

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/

Well, with dolyak/heal sig, they can't kill me but they attack viz as well, that give me a bit of hard time ... although still manage to make it.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarki
Yea I thought about it too.
And the rest of you. Face it, MMORPGs are free to explore. There's nothing wrong with paying someone to run you, if you can afford it.
Nope. But bitching about when your particular exploit is closed is.

Burton2000

Burton2000

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A cardboard box in England

Men Of Substance [YMCA]

Mo/Me

This mission is just as easy to run.I tried with my ranger and made it first try.Escape, dodge, whirling, lightning relfexes and troll does it easy.Didnt lose more than 100 health at the end.

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

I did not try the mission after the patch, but I can feel the pain. No matter how you play, a team mission that *MUST* be completed to progress to the next area should have build in safeguards to prevent that players get the feeling that it all was a waste of time when it fails at the very last moment. No matter how much you like teamplay, a last minute failure in any mission takes away all fun. And personally I think this is the one and only reason that we have runners in the game: on too many stages it feels like trial and error to make progress. Not everyone is an expert player who knows when to use what skills. In a game where 90% of the players are pugs the game mechanics should be more protective, and allow players to continue a mission after dying, restoring their game objectives. Nothing is as deadly for gameplay as repetitive mission failures...

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandora's box
I think this is the one and only reason that we have runners in the game: on too many stages it feels like trial and error to make progress.
No, we have runners because people think the game is to farm Orozars Quest or doing Smite runs. Running is the fastest way to get to the real game: farming!

Because, as we all know, whoever has the most gold & the most expensive (not best) equipment, wins.

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

really?

i had to get help to pass the cay mission, and the only way i did was that my friend knew this trick of standing in one spot after the first wave....

now anyone that isnt a warrior or a monk or has to use henchies will never get past othe than getting run by a wamo....

nad maybe we have some runners because a lot of silly players thiunk that getting tothe best stuff as fast as possible, so as to farm good areas...

but a heluva lot more players are getting Ran these days simply because they cannot make it without help...and they cannot make it with a henchies only team....and they cannot get invited, because they are not a favoued class, like wamo and monk are.

look, i can only play this game for a few hours a week, not a day....i cannot just arse about and walk thru everytihng like a lot of you might be able to, nor do i have the cash to pay for a run, even if i so chose to...which i would not, since i feel running your very first character to get to that point in the game is wrong.

and the next warrior anything to say a mission is easy....
for frell sake, take yourself off and try a necro or mesmer or ranger primary....
with no monk or warrior AT ALL.....THEN come back, and tell me how easy it is to get into a group, or compleat a mission as difficult as some of these accension ones are...
till then, pff.....you only know the easy route, so please, give us non wamo warrior players a reason not to ignore you cause you get it easy...

M3lk0r

M3lk0r

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

Finished it with my ranger with hench, dont remember it being any hard.

dont feel no pain

dont feel no pain

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Uk,Wales

*trips runner*

Faowri

Faowri

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mantle Assassins

Me/E

It can still be run o_O The runner just needs to tank the hits at the very end instead of hide in the 'trick' spot. Just means the runner needs a bit more skill than before :P and with the extra work required, it wouldn't surprise me if runners actually charge ~more~ for this mission than they did before!

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Played through as mesmer and monk and necro too. If anything missions are easier for those classes than for a warrior.

Rayea: are you under the impression there's a fabulous endgame waiting for you at the end of the PvE campaign? Or that someone will congratulate you for completing the PvE campaign quickly? There isn't. The missions and the quests are the game you paid for. That's guild wars. It doesn't make sense paying people to run them for you - unless you want to get to a farming area. And of course you do.

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

Smiting Monk + Henchies...... NP. MM + Henchies..... NP. This is one of the easier Missions to just go ahead and complete.

Anarki

Anarki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sweden

Almost Famous

W/N

Eh I dont know what you people believe I was thinking when I made that post.
I never ran sanctrum cay to get paid. I sometimes run my gf and she me when we need to get few quick levels, and I usualy do free Ascalon-Amnoon runs each week, but now it's nearly impossible.
I even tried to tank those monsters. Didn't succeed at first try. Those archers like to interrupt you.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

i ran this mission for my guildies whenever they have new chars (i make it a point to never ever run someone playing the game through the first time). I also used to farm the undead for orr emblems for halloween/christmas stuff.

I never used the exploit, but rather i tanked all the white mantle solo (invinciwammo!) when the Vizier part came, the only thing to watch out for is savage shot from the seekers.

Kaospryx

Kaospryx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarki
Eh I dont know what you people believe I was thinking when I made that post.
I never ran sanctrum cay to get paid. I sometimes run my gf and she me when we need to get few quick levels, and I usualy do free Ascalon-Amnoon runs each week, but now it's nearly impossible.
I even tried to tank those monsters. Didn't succeed at first try. Those archers like to interrupt you.
Well, we obviously thought you were complaining, simply due to the nature of your post, and frequent uses of the frowny face. If you want to report rather than complain, then don't give the impression that you dislike the fix. And it's "Sanctum" btw.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

what sucks is that in Anet's attempt to make the area or a mission unrunnable means that it then becomes even harder for those actually trying to complete the mission.

As always when something is nerfed to prevent something, it makes it harder for those the nerf was not intended for.

Grimm

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
No, we have runners because people think the game is to farm Orozars Quest or doing Smite runs. Running is the fastest way to get to the real game: farming!

Because, as we all know, whoever has the most gold & the most expensive (not best) equipment, wins.
Quoted for truth.

Grimm

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

If it were a hard mission, maybe so.

They didn't nerf anything; they just made the Mantle always attack when they're supposed to. It's a fix, not a nerf.

Greedy Gus

Greedy Gus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Striking Distance

I had my lvl 14 warrior run through this mission and didn't know there was a bug, so I followed the runner and triggered all of the other enemies to come and just tanked them by kiting around a bit and using healing sig. Everyone else was crying that I messed everything up, but a minute later we were in amnoon. If you can't hold them off without the bug, then you have no skill.

TheOneAndOnlyX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Last Sacrens

N/Me

I got ran today

Sunai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavrik
what sucks is that in Anet's attempt to make the area or a mission unrunnable means that it then becomes even harder for those actually trying to complete the mission.

As always when something is nerfed to prevent something, it makes it harder for those the nerf was not intended for.
What are you talking about? The mobs, which were intended to and were supposed to appear, weren't. That's a bug. Their main reason for editing this mission wasn't to make it unrunnable. It was to fix their mistake. On a group that's actually doing the mission, it doesn't make it any harder on you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarki
Eh I dont know what you people believe I was thinking when I made that post.
I never ran sanctrum cay to get paid. I sometimes run my gf and she me when we need to get few quick levels, and I usualy do free Ascalon-Amnoon runs each week, but now it's nearly impossible.
I even tried to tank those monsters. Didn't succeed at first try. Those archers like to interrupt you.
Just because you can't do it on the first try doesn't mean it's nearly impossible. You're not that good.

Captain Arne Is PRO

Captain Arne Is PRO

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

...ITS WHITE MANTLE? my warrior kills white mantle 2 hits per? :\