graphics cards?
staindreality
i was wondering about any issues with graphics cards. i read somewhere that nvidia cards had some issues. i was going to buy an nvidia 6200 or 6600 card soon but was wondering about issues with them. anyone know please
Aria
Take a look at the official FAQ on the official website. 
Scroll down. And it never hurts to read the entire FAQ while you're at it too.. you might find additional answers to anything that you're wondering about.
Scroll down. And it never hurts to read the entire FAQ while you're at it too.. you might find additional answers to anything that you're wondering about.
Nascent
I have a GeForce/Asus V9570 TD FX 5700 card (lets hear it for extremely long names) with 256 megs DDR onboard, and so far I've had no issues with the game graphically. There's perhaps a little bit of slow down that might be contributed to the fact its an nVidia card when the ANet people are working with ATI, but thats all I've come across.
Normally it doesnt seem to be that the games are designed exclusively for one type of card and the rest of the world is screwed, its just a 'runs best on' type thing. I had an ATI card before this GeForce one, and frankly I prefer my GeForce. *Hugs it*
Normally it doesnt seem to be that the games are designed exclusively for one type of card and the rest of the world is screwed, its just a 'runs best on' type thing. I had an ATI card before this GeForce one, and frankly I prefer my GeForce. *Hugs it*
staindreality
just want to say i prefer nvidia over ati also. i bought a 9800 pro from ati and it after about a 4 months wouldnt work or even put anyone on th escreen. my screen was black whether i was playing agame or on the web or nothing. so now i have my old one back in.
Nascent
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Originally Posted by staindreality
just want to say i prefer nvidia over ati also. i bought a 9800 pro from ati and it after about a 4 months wouldnt work or even put anyone on th escreen. my screen was black whether i was playing agame or on the web or nothing. so now i have my old one back in.
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Come to think of it, thats why I got my Nvidia card too. When I bought all the parts to build my new comp I just threw in my old video card (the ATI) and within 10 minutes it was screwing up my system, games would lock up and the whole thing would just start making oh so horrible noises.
Mss Drizzt
I have an ATI 9800 pro and I love it. I played for 24 hrs straight this last BWE and never had a problem. I have never had a problem with my card.
With any game...
I have had problems with Nvidia cards though. IE: they need better heat sinks in order for them to work right. Which I did replace and the card did function properly. But you should not have to do that with a $500 card.
The 9600 from ati is a very good card I have that one in another computer.
2 computers using 9800 pro
1 computer using 9600
1 computer using Ti4600 :with a cpu heat sink and fan...Doh it is a monster
With any game...
I have had problems with Nvidia cards though. IE: they need better heat sinks in order for them to work right. Which I did replace and the card did function properly. But you should not have to do that with a $500 card.
The 9600 from ati is a very good card I have that one in another computer.
2 computers using 9800 pro
1 computer using 9600
1 computer using Ti4600 :with a cpu heat sink and fan...Doh it is a monster
William of Orange
I can't remember exactly, but here in the Madison-area Best Buy, they had ATI Radeon 9250(?'s) on sale for $59.99 last weekend after rebates, which seems like a good deal, since the recommended card is a Radeon 9000 I believe. It's too bad that I have pretty much no money right now, otherwise I'd have gone out and boughten that card. I guess I can live with what I have no until I get my new computer in June/July.
Loviatar
you get what you pay for and that is not a good card
you were lucky not to have gotten it
they were making it so attractive to get rid of them
in the future google the product along with keywords review or roundup or shootout to get a better idea
you were lucky not to have gotten it
they were making it so attractive to get rid of them
in the future google the product along with keywords review or roundup or shootout to get a better idea
Mss Drizzt
If your really interested in finding a good video card/for the money.
Go to www.tomshardware.com look under the video subcatagory and their will be plenty of info. The site also has a good search data base for online retailers and their prices.
Go to www.tomshardware.com look under the video subcatagory and their will be plenty of info. The site also has a good search data base for online retailers and their prices.
Loviatar
the only online retailer i trust is newegg.com which has been in the top of reseller ratings for years and i have delt with them for years as well
Mss Drizzt
They usually come in as one of the cheapest. And I used to work at one of thier retail stores when they had retail stores.
Nova
NVIDIA GeForce is the best. I have a GeForce FX 5500 128 MB card. I jsut bought it for $100.00. Its awesome. I recomend it. Also, don;t buy at Bestbut when you can find it cheaper at CompUSA. 
Mss Drizzt
The x850 is currently the best card on the market. And noone will dispute it. You might not like ATI but it is the best card. 
Loviatar
sorry to dispute the fastest best current video solution
6800 ultra SLI
6800 ultra SLI
FireMarshal
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NVIDIA GeForce is the best. I have a GeForce FX 5500 128 MB card. I jsut bought it for $100.00. Its awesome. I recomend it. Also, don;t buy at Bestbut when you can find it cheaper at CompUSA.
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Loviatar
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Originally Posted by FireMarshal
Dont get any 5xxx series. It just isnt worth the money. I had a 5200fx, which I used for the longest time, but only because it came with my Dell. I got a GF 6600gt about 2 months ago, and OMG, I couldnt believe the stuff I was missing.
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2746 with the 6600GT
Mss Drizzt
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sorry to dispute the fastest best current video solution
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Yes and No It really depends on the game you are playing. But a big YES if you use it in duel SLI mode.
I just prefer the ATI cards after my problem with the TI4600.
I stand corrected. I had failed to read the latest report. Just did.
Kirbie
I personally think both ATI and NVIDIA are same.
I enjoyed using both cards.
But for now, comparing with price, 6800GT offers bit more for little cheaper price(compare with ATI).
I have Geforce 6800GT, and guildwars runs very nicely.
Only have 2 problems in guildwars with my video card.
-After the log on screen, the character's face colour(near hair area) doesn't match with rest of face colour.
-The skill icon picture appears corrupted when you drag the icon to bottom right corner of the buy skill window in order to purchase one.
I reported these along with screenshot, so I'm pretty sure it will get fixed sometime
I enjoyed using both cards.
But for now, comparing with price, 6800GT offers bit more for little cheaper price(compare with ATI).
I have Geforce 6800GT, and guildwars runs very nicely.
Only have 2 problems in guildwars with my video card.
-After the log on screen, the character's face colour(near hair area) doesn't match with rest of face colour.
-The skill icon picture appears corrupted when you drag the icon to bottom right corner of the buy skill window in order to purchase one.
I reported these along with screenshot, so I'm pretty sure it will get fixed sometime
Harley
This is from the GW FAQ your 6200 or 6600 is not on the list
There is a known issue with NVidia GeForce FX video cards (GPUs) and driver version 61.77 when the user has changed "Image Settings" to "High performance". Some of the problems include missing terrain. The solution is to change your video settings to "High quality". To do this, follow these instructions: On Windows XP:
1. Open Display Properties control panel.
2. Click Settings tab
3. Click Advanced button
4. Click GeForce "Version" tab
5. Select Performance and Quality Settings in left window
6. In the Global Driver Settings window select Image Settings
7. Move the slider to the right to "High quality"
The video cards/GPUs that are affected by this problem are:
GeForce FX 5200
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
GeForce FX 5500
GeForce FX 5700
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
GeForce FX 5700LE
GeForce FX 5900
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900 XT
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
GeForce PCX 5300
GeForce PCX 5750
GeForce PCX 5900
There is a known issue with NVidia GeForce FX video cards (GPUs) and driver version 61.77 when the user has changed "Image Settings" to "High performance". Some of the problems include missing terrain. The solution is to change your video settings to "High quality". To do this, follow these instructions: On Windows XP:
1. Open Display Properties control panel.
2. Click Settings tab
3. Click Advanced button
4. Click GeForce "Version" tab
5. Select Performance and Quality Settings in left window
6. In the Global Driver Settings window select Image Settings
7. Move the slider to the right to "High quality"
The video cards/GPUs that are affected by this problem are:
GeForce FX 5200
GeForce FX 5200 Ultra
GeForce FX 5500
GeForce FX 5700
GeForce FX 5700 Ultra
GeForce FX 5700LE
GeForce FX 5900
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra
GeForce FX 5900 XT
GeForce FX 5950 Ultra
GeForce PCX 5300
GeForce PCX 5750
GeForce PCX 5900
vas moon
i have an Nvidia GeForce FX5200 (128) -- works great -- machine has a gig of ram.
my workstation uses the Nvidia Geforce 6800 GT (256) -- works great -- that machine uses a gig of ram
my laptop uses an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 pro turbo (128) -- works great -- machine has a gig of ram
i havent had a single problem running GW on any of these machines. i do prefer the Nvidia cards imo the shading is glossier and image quality is better but the ati image quality is fine (machines with ATI cards seem to have brighter images -- not as 'lush' as Nvidia cards)
i run the game with the image settings at the highest levels on each of these machines and have never had a problem. (Well there was the time i was booted to the desktop during a tombs battle but i dont think that had anything to do with the card )
Mss Drizzt gave you good advice about going to Tom's Hardware guide (they do great reviews): http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/index.html
another thing to consider is the monitor your using: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/index.html
to buy a new card go to pricewatch: http://www.pricewatch.com/
gl
my workstation uses the Nvidia Geforce 6800 GT (256) -- works great -- that machine uses a gig of ram
my laptop uses an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 pro turbo (128) -- works great -- machine has a gig of ram
i havent had a single problem running GW on any of these machines. i do prefer the Nvidia cards imo the shading is glossier and image quality is better but the ati image quality is fine (machines with ATI cards seem to have brighter images -- not as 'lush' as Nvidia cards)
i run the game with the image settings at the highest levels on each of these machines and have never had a problem. (Well there was the time i was booted to the desktop during a tombs battle but i dont think that had anything to do with the card
)Mss Drizzt gave you good advice about going to Tom's Hardware guide (they do great reviews): http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/index.html
another thing to consider is the monitor your using: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/display/index.html
to buy a new card go to pricewatch: http://www.pricewatch.com/
gl
Virtuoso
Stay away from the FX5200. I understand that the poster above me says it runs the game fine, and I am not calling him a liar, but it is a horrible card and has trouble playing many many games. You will notice a huge difference by spending just a little bit more cash, instead of buying the FX5200. Also, I am not sure if the other posters before me covered this, but make sure you have an AGP slot on your motherboard before you go out and spend the big bucks on an AGP card. Some companies like Dell and Hewlett Packard will ship PCs without AGP slots, even some of their "high-end" ones. And last but not least, I have had my 9800Pro running for well over a year (got it when they just got out) and it has never given me any problems. Oh! And I second www.newegg.com. I have done a load of business with them, for both personal and business use and they are by far the best place to buy parts, period!
-Virt
P.S. www.newegg.com > www.pricewatch.com
-Virt
P.S. www.newegg.com > www.pricewatch.com
Nova
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Dont get any 5xxx series. It just isnt worth the money. I had a 5200fx, which I used for the longest time, but only because it came with my Dell. I got a GF 6600gt about 2 months ago, and OMG, I couldnt believe the stuff I was missing.
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(I am a Freshman in Highschool) I didn't waste the money, it works GREAT! So sssshhh.
Loviatar
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Best I can do with the money I have.
(I am a Freshman in Highschool) I didn't waste the money, it works GREAT! So sssshhh. |
also a 16 mb something
and a 5600 ultra
still have my old *pixie* brand monitor if this one goes even it the picture is pink due to color failure
Iain ap Cuilleain
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sorry to dispute the fastest best current video solution
6800 ultra SLI |
I don't know about you, but my budget just will not handle the strain . . .
Mss Drizzt
NOT many people can afford that. $1000 just to have the best for 10 months.
And on top of that their currently is no CPU that can process the info fast enough. So you would need to be running a duel AMD soulution with duel cards. BIG MONEY.
And on top of that their currently is no CPU that can process the info fast enough. So you would need to be running a duel AMD soulution with duel cards. BIG MONEY.
Lansing Kai Don
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Originally Posted by Virtuoso
Stay away from the FX5200. I understand that the poster above me says it runs the game fine, and I am not calling him a liar, but it is a horrible card and has trouble playing many many games. You will notice a huge difference by spending just a little bit more cash, instead of buying the FX5200. Also, I am not sure if the other posters before me covered this, but make sure you have an AGP slot on your motherboard before you go out and spend the big bucks on an AGP card. Some companies like Dell and Hewlett Packard will ship PCs without AGP slots, even some of their "high-end" ones. And last but not least, I have had my 9800Pro running for well over a year (got it when they just got out) and it has never given me any problems. Oh! And I second www.newegg.com. I have done a load of business with them, for both personal and business use and they are by far the best place to buy parts, period!
-Virt P.S. www.newegg.com > www.pricewatch.com |
This may be true about spending extra money, but I'm currently running 1 128 MB 5200, and 1 256 MB 5200 in two of my computers and haven't had trouble in any games (of course I play older titles like BF1942 and Vietnam, Rise of Nation, AoM, EE)..... but I would disagree with them being bad cards... their an excellent value 256MB 5200 for 71 dollars? Heck Ya. I'm more into audio than video.... but I do admit being guilty of recently purchasing a Radeon 9800 Pro on the recommendations of friends and so far haven't tested it's limitations.
Lansing Kai Don
Virtuoso
The 9800Pro will blow you away if you find the FX5200 acceptable. And the 256MB of RAM on the FX5200? A marketing gimmick. That card will see minimal performance increase, if any, by bumping it up to 256MB RAM.
-Virt
-Virt
Mss Drizzt
That is such a sweet card. I have 2. 256 meg ddr ram makes the card slow to do mem dumps it only helps on really high video settings. Which that card can't handle. So you are actually slowing down your FPS. 
Nlandge
you do know that radeon has come out with a 512 mb card right? but its not available to the public for probably about 3 or 4 months
i dont know any specifics but i know that they gave one away quite recently
i dont know any specifics but i know that they gave one away quite recently
Mss Drizzt
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you do know that radeon has come out with a 512 mb card right? but its not available to the public for probably about 3 or 4 months
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The only reason to make that card is to score higher on 3D2005 and MAYBE a 1-5% increase in FPS. Not enough to warrant the extra money.
Virtuoso
The only game on the market right now, that I know of, that can take advantage of 512MB of video RAM is Doom 3 set the the highest setting it can go. Basically, it uses completely uncompressed textures and takes up a ton of space.
-Virt
-Virt
Mss Drizzt
Yes but ATI cards do not score now as high as Nvidia cards so the extra would only get you to par with their cards. Just like Nvidia cards do not do as well with this game as ATI.
Virtuoso
That is very true. It's a pitty that game makers are siding with one graphics card company over another.
-Virt
-Virt
Mss Drizzt
Overall the ATI cards are better just like Overall AMD cpu's are better than Intel.
The big differences will be seen once Microsoft releases the Windows 64 edition. Because they worked heavily with AMD this time instead of Intel.
And then Ati and AMD will truly shine. But still be the underdogs.
The big differences will be seen once Microsoft releases the Windows 64 edition. Because they worked heavily with AMD this time instead of Intel.
And then Ati and AMD will truly shine. But still be the underdogs.
Lews
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Overall the ATI cards are better just like Overall AMD cpu's are better than Intel.
The big differences will be seen once Microsoft releases the Windows 64 edition. Because they worked heavily with AMD this time instead of Intel. And then Ati and AMD will truly shine. But still be the underdogs. |
LordFu
The Nvidia 6600GT is the best card for the money, going for a little less than $200 and out-performing tons of cards. The next best card from either manufacturer is nearly $100 more.
lmxru
when looking at graphics cards, its not always a good idea to base them only on brand, go by specs, and the price. When you have a problem with a card, it could be the drivers, or simply a problem with the individual card, not the brand. In todays market, Id say nVidia takes the lead by quality and price. I use a 6800 GT, and not much is better for the money. But if Anet is infact working with ATI, im sure that Anet made GW more ATI compatible.
Kirbie
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my workstation uses the Nvidia Geforce 6800 GT (256) -- works great -- that machine uses a gig of ram. i havent had a single problem running GW on any of these machines. i do prefer the Nvidia cards imo the shading is glossier and image quality is better but the ati image quality is fine (machines with ATI cards seem to have brighter images -- not as 'lush' as Nvidia cards)
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i also have geforce 6800gt and gig of ram, but i have 2 problems which i posted in previous thread....which i reported to AreanNet.
what is manufacturer of your card? and what driver were you using?
mine is from bfg, and my driver was forceware 71.84
if driver was different, it makes sense(that it is driver problem)...but if we were using same driver....
and yes...i notice that image with nvidia card(6800gt) looks more luxurious.
Enix
Nvidia vs ATI Lines... w/ brief history :P
N 4000 > ATI 8000 - Nvidia held the crown for $/Performance
N 5000 < ATI 9000 - Then ATI took it back with the last gen line of cards (On shelves now with REBATES )
N 6000 > ATI X000 - Now Nvidia barely nudges out ATI in $/Performance
The first card I ever bought was an ATI, the second and third were Nvidia. I buy cards that give me the best performance for what I am willing to spend, and now I have a 6800GT, and it pwns... I mean, it performs very well.
N 4000 > ATI 8000 - Nvidia held the crown for $/Performance
N 5000 < ATI 9000 - Then ATI took it back with the last gen line of cards (On shelves now with REBATES
)N 6000 > ATI X000 - Now Nvidia barely nudges out ATI in $/Performance
The first card I ever bought was an ATI, the second and third were Nvidia. I buy cards that give me the best performance for what I am willing to spend, and now I have a 6800GT, and it pwns... I mean, it performs very well.
Kirbie
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you do know that radeon has come out with a 512 mb card right? but its not available to the public for probably about 3 or 4 months
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but i personally think there is no need to buy a card with 512mb memory.
first...it would be expansive. (i think one of expansive parts in video card is memory chips)
second...they have pci-express technology...which has more memory bandwidth. someday, i think video card will take advantage of this feature and use RAM memories(on your motherboard) to save cost of the card.