Monk Protest: Drok's International 1

jciardha

jciardha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

International Districts

The Labyrinth of Night [LoN]

Me/

Taken about a half-hour ago. The line's grown since then. Lots of monks standing in line right in front of the Talus Chute entrance.



If you've got a monk, come on down and party and help body block those farmers from entering Talus Chute.

EDIT: BTW, we're chatting in the Trade Channel, as the bots have decided to leave it alone.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

You can't body block in town.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

BOdyblocking doesn't work in town, they'll just run right through you. And those who don't understand English won't have a clue what's happening anyway.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

Anet should turn body block on....

oh wait, on second thought, that might have some negative repercussions on us human players should those bots decide to do the same, lol.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

I just went there, it's funny. Some of the farmers think you guys are customers!

deathdela

deathdela

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Playing Guild Wars and Getting [high]

W/R

Ok so Anet nerf Grif farming and what do we have now in drogs international a load of M/W running constantly through the gate about 15 at a time. All the chat is in korean saying WTS this and that. Is there any solution to stop korean bots cause they are ruining the economy of the game.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Say it with me:

Droknar's Forge, or Drok's if you really can't type it out.

PS. Assuming there isn't someplace on the map that I don't know of called Drogs.

Linsys

Linsys

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Afk Mac N Cheeze Dun [LOOL]

Mo/N

Its Drok's not Drogs...

Anyway I just went there its sooo crazy its definatly the new bot farm spot.. about 50 Mo/W just standing by the exit..

stickyballs

stickyballs

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

American Servers

Sin Squad [SIN]

W/

First off, it is DROKNAR'S FORGE. Not Drognar's.

And also, why do you care so much? Infinite threads about bots at Droknar. Not like there weren't at Augury. What infuriates you so much? Does it affect your game? And most of the time they are Chinese, as the Koreans have their own servers.

The farming is not that good even if they are getting a few golds a run. I think there are a lot bigger issues in this game then people accusing farmers of being bots. Show the proof and you will have some credibility. When someone goes Ettin Hunting for Sup. Runes, are they bots because they go in and out of the zone?

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by deathdela
Ok so Anet nerf Grif farming and what do we have now in drogs international a load of M/W running constantly through the gate about 15 at a time. All the chat is in korean saying WTS this and that. Is there any solution to stop korean bots cause they are ruining the economy of the game.
You sure they're korean? I'm fairly sure the majority are the chinese-bot-contingent from augury

Kidney Licker

Kidney Licker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Europe Server

The only reason I don't like it, is that it's in one of the main cities. A.Net should try and divert the farmers onto Seekers Passge or Heros Audience, e.g griffons have found a new home after fleeing the scarab invasion.

Are they the main reason for the drop in parchment and steel prices?

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

i know its not funny but its like a conga run all u see is M/W sometimes the odd M/E.

if u look close enough u see them run like they had some ale some bump into the tree before the exit.

Anet says they want a free bot game. sure they will

deathdela

deathdela

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Playing Guild Wars and Getting [high]

W/R

Nah when people farm ettin runes the odd couple of people run through the portal when you are in droks is tons of farmers going through the portal. Its obvious they are bots if you watch the route they take. Also it does affect my game when i have people opening up random trades and saying WTB every second and some how spamming WTB all over the channel. Some people e.g. myself has took time to earn over a mil yet these people run bots that bring in money which sells on ebay to other players making the game unbalanced

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

people are making a block at the door to complain about bots

or better trying to block the bots from exit the town. (not possible i know)

heist23

Journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

well, maybe try turning off the Local and Chat channels, and just pay attention to any PM's you might have coming in at the time. if you're there just to shop, then i guess it can get really, really annoying trying to find what you're after. if it's that hard then go to your home districts and see if anyone's trade spamming in Drok's district 1.

and it depresses me when people can't tell one Asian language from another. "O noes teh asians look all the same" that really pisses me off.

Tsunami Rain

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

great..body block doesnt work..youre in a distrct that almost NO-ONE farms in. This is working....Isn't It?

Thom

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2005

Gah, I hope anet closes this soon *eyeroll*.

Asians think all white people look the same and my chinese friends are impressed that I can pick out a german or english person. I'm not going to lot worry too much about confusing various asian scripts.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

There is posts in another GW community that I'm part of, and they think it is a party...I'm not sure why this post says protest...

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

Even if the block worked... there are two other ways into the chute haha

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

I think anet should kick the bot farmers. the more attenion there the better. someone will notice sooner or later.

Syi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

You monks protest too much. >.>

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

I find it ironic that these monks are protesting farming when I see more monks exiting Droknar's Forge than warriors to farm trolls. Or, I'm missing the point of the OP.

Linsys

Linsys

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Afk Mac N Cheeze Dun [LOOL]

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
I find it ironic that these monks are protesting farming when I see more monks exiting Droknar's Forge than warriors to farm trolls. Or, I'm missing the point of the OP.
Yes you missed the point, we are talking about BOT farming... people using a BOT

Mercury Angel

Mercury Angel

Avatar of Gwen

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wandering my own road.

Whether or not a person is botting can only be accurately discovered by looking through logs, and even that isn't entirely reliable; Better bots often use variable timers to mix up actions to make a person's actions seem 'more human', and the static spawns in the game don't help.

The economy in a video game world, where the currency has little to no concrete backing, and high-end equipment can be gotten easily at fixed prices, means little to me as well.
However, I would hardly protest the ban of bots, regardless of the state of the economy.

What I will say is that I miss the days when you could hold conversations in the local chat and meet new people. Trade spam in the local channel is not unique to sellers, or spam bots, nor to any specifici region; However, as one of the rallying cries of people in Droknar's Forge was about taking back the local channel, that much I completely support.

The trade channel is labelled 'trade' for a reason. Whether it's Lion's Arch, Droknar's Forge, or Augury Rock, in American, European, Int, or any other region, there is no reason trade offers should be spammed so prevalently the way they are now across the local channel.

So if nothing else, I would love the idea of Anet taking action to give back the local channel to us.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Not again. I wonder how long this one will take before it degenerates into another example of why people shouldn't be left to their own devices. ANet needs to get out the riot gear and go crack some skulls.

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercury Angel
Whether or not a person is botting can only be accurately discovered by looking through logs, and even that isn't entirely reliable; Better bots often use variable timers to mix up actions to make a person's actions seem 'more human', and the static spawns in the game don't help.

The economy in a video game world, where the currency has little to no concrete backing, and high-end equipment can be gotten easily at fixed prices, means little to me as well.
However, I would hardly protest the ban of bots, regardless of the state of the economy.

What I will say is that I miss the days when you could hold conversations in the local chat and meet new people. Trade spam in the local channel is not unique to sellers, or spam bots, nor to any specifici region; However, as one of the rallying cries of people in Droknar's Forge was about taking back the local channel, that much I completely support.

The trade channel is labelled 'trade' for a reason. Whether it's Lion's Arch, Droknar's Forge, or Augury Rock, in American, European, Int, or any other region, there is no reason trade offers should be spammed so prevalently the way they are now across the local channel.

So if nothing else, I would love the idea of Anet taking action to give back the local channel to us.
Anet is coing out with a market or something like that . they may have tarvens too.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linsys
Yes you missed the point, we are talking about BOT farming... people using a BOT
Oh. Well, the OP could have been more specific. He only uses "BOT" in the edited portion of the post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jciardha
Taken about a half-hour ago. The line's grown since then. Lots of monks standing in line right in front of the Talus Chute entrance. If you've got a monk, come on down and party and help body block those farmers from entering Talus Chute.
It's ambiguous and vague. Who's "those farmers?"
I haven't been on. I don't know what's happening in Tyria. Please, add more next time and educate those who only have GWGuru to inform them. Too busy to play.

Blaze Emup

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Martyrs And Heroes

N/Me

Sadly just a few minutes ago i was bored enough to mess with the farmers. I invited every one of them to my party. Surprisingly alot of them accepted and when we got outside they just said "?" said some mumbo jumbo then went back in. I thought more of them would be bots. I did catch a few that were bots. You can follow them around and pick up drops. Its hilarious.

koneko

Site Contributor

Join Date: Sep 2005

38??16′ N 140??52′ E

Mo/Me

That original screenie shows a really short line :|

*click*

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

What I dont understand is if these farmbots are so obvious to us players, why couldn't Anet identify and terminate them accordingly?

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

I find it highly ironic how everyone complains about the bots, but the first time they good a good drop, they're buying the perfect mod from a bot for a better resale of that item. Complain all you want, but remember that every transaction you make with one quantifies their existence.

Even more ironic is how many guru forumers hang out in LA1 and do nothing but spam All Chat with WTS messages.

"Hello Pot, this is Kettle. You are so black."

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
"Hello Pot, this is Kettle. You are so black."
I lol'd, which is annoying seeing that I'm at work at the moment.

DSey

DSey

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by deathdela
Ok so Anet nerf Grif farming and what do we have now in drogs international a load of M/W running constantly through the gate about 15 at a time. All the chat is in korean saying WTS this and that. Is there any solution to stop korean bots cause they are ruining the economy of the game.
Nah they're not ruining the economy. They're advertising their goodies for low prices, surely, but who the heck understands them? I sure don't. Unless someone has a degree in Chinese or Korean I doubt they can sell much to the English playerbase simply because no one knows what they're saying.

Raif

Raif

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ireland

N/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
I find it highly ironic how everyone complains about the bots, but the first time they good a good drop, they're buying the perfect mod from a bot for a better resale of that item. Complain all you want, but remember that every transaction you make with one quantifies their existence.

Even more ironic is how many guru forumers hang out in LA1 and do nothing but spam All Chat with WTS messages.

"Hello Pot, this is Kettle. You are so black."
so true
so very true

TimberOwl

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Well, i myself have to say its ridiculous.

I moved from EU server to US server just to be with guildies, and i was suprised to find that there are alot of chinese players (Or bots) on the US server, far far more than there are on the EU server.

So methinks these players are targeting you US guys and gals as victims for quick cash. But... the stupid thing is, the chinese that goes around the chat channels isn't even correct,

A) They have crap grammar
B) The sentences don't make any bit of sense due to the bot probably making a mess of the chat.
C) And who the hell is going to understand it even if it did make sense, with the exception of myself and a minority of others who can speak chinese..

I can't see the point of it, the US server is being invaded.

Stabber

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Plane of Oblivion

Sigilum Sanguis [keep]

Me/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
Anet is coing out with a market or something like that . they may have tarvens too.
That by itself will not make trading spam magically disappear. Anet needs to write up and enforce clear penalties for anyone not using the designated trading mechanisms for trade, once they have their trading system 2.0 in place.

Of course, this assumes that Anet cares about trading spam in the local chat channel. I am not convinced that they see it as a high priority.

ShadowStorm

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
You can't body block in town.
Actually you can body block in town though it's much harder than you might think. You have to manipulate the wandering dwarves into the right positions, since they can body block players, and then you have to keep them there by bodyblocking them.

wolfe2dale

wolfe2dale

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Hemel Hempstead

Guildless...

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
I find it highly ironic how everyone complains about the bots, but the first time they good a good drop, they're buying the perfect mod from a bot for a better resale of that item. Complain all you want, but remember that every transaction you make with one quantifies their existence.

Even more ironic is how many guru forumers hang out in LA1 and do nothing but spam All Chat with WTS messages.

"Hello Pot, this is Kettle. You are so black."
Let's see...I have never bought anything in town, EVER. I get my items either from honest drops to me or trades within my Guild.

Stop trying to tar every player with the same brush. Just because you want to cheat doesn't mean everyone else does.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Their selling things...and buying.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowStorm
Actually you can body block in town though it's much harder than you might think. You have to manipulate the wandering dwarves into the right positions, since they can body block players, and then you have to keep them there by bodyblocking them.
Hoping that was sarcasm, because it is virtually impossible to manipulate the NPC dwarves, although they will body block.