Free for all items, should you take them?
mrbb
When there is a good drop (purple, gold, black dye) assigned to another player and that player doesn't pick it up because the player does not pick it up fast enough (died, was distracted healing, fighting, etc), should you pick it up?
Dav85
only if the player the drop was assignet to has left the game. if not, or if he's dead and we can't rez him, i'll take the item and give it to him once we're back in the city
xxSilhouette
If its a good item and they died then I would pick it up and give it back when we got to town, If it was good and they didn't pick it up, I would ask if I could have it, and if they left I woudl just take it. So For me its both yes and no 
quickmonty
The only reasons for picking up a drop originally assigned to another player:
1) He tells you he doesn't want it and you can have it.
2) He has zoned out of the quest/mission and no longer has a chance to pick it up. If this is a friend/guildmate I would certainly find out if they left on purpose or it was an unintentional drop (in which case I would hold the item for him).
Under no circumstance should you just grab the item because the other person was waiting to be ressed or to busy fighting and/or healing (probably to save your butt).
just my opinion
And while we are on the subject of drops ...... one thing that really bugs me is people running around picking up drops while the battle rages on. Please don't do that!
1) He tells you he doesn't want it and you can have it.
2) He has zoned out of the quest/mission and no longer has a chance to pick it up. If this is a friend/guildmate I would certainly find out if they left on purpose or it was an unintentional drop (in which case I would hold the item for him).
Under no circumstance should you just grab the item because the other person was waiting to be ressed or to busy fighting and/or healing (probably to save your butt).
just my opinion
And while we are on the subject of drops ...... one thing that really bugs me is people running around picking up drops while the battle rages on. Please don't do that!
Sol_Vie
If an item becomes unassigned because the person did not pick it up "fast enough" it's still their's. If they just left it there and didn't care then it's no problem.
DeanBB
I will call attention to such drops since some people simply miss them. If they don't want it, leave the game, etc then I will pick it up. Like others have stated, if it is a guildie then I will give them the opportunity to get it.
Cherno
Agree with the above. My guildies and I call the process of sniping someone elses loot "ninja" ing
Loralai
yeah..ninja looters ftl...
Agreed.
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The only reasons for picking up a drop originally assigned to another player:
1) He tells you he doesn't want it and you can have it. 2) He has zoned out of the quest/mission and no longer has a chance to pick it up. If this is a friend/guildmate I would certainly find out if they left on purpose or it was an unintentional drop (in which case I would hold the item for him). Under no circumstance should you just grab the item because the other person was waiting to be ressed or to busy fighting and/or healing (probably to save your butt). |
Fungus Amongus
Released items originally reserved for a player should not be taken without permission IMO.
I am guilty of that sometimes, although it's rare now. I am still breaking myself of the Diablo2 habit of trying to snatch good items before all those annoying gits running Pickit scripts get the drops.
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And while we are on the subject of drops ...... one thing that really bugs me is people running around picking up drops while the battle rages on. Please don't do that!
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NinjaKai
I pick them up at any chance I get as soon as the person it's attached to. That's how I got my magmas shield. The second it becomes freed. It's technically no longer there's. Hence the term free for all.
Cherno
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I pick them up at any chance I get as soon as the person it's attached to. That's how I got my magmas shield. The second it becomes freed. It's technically no longer there's. Hence the term free for all.
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While technically true, it doesn't "belong" to them anymore, you should have the decency and courtesy to not go snatch up things.
Remember that some day when you drop a large bill out of your pocket and then turn around a second later to find someone snatched it up. "Wasn't in your pocket anymore, doesn't belong to you" aka Finders Keepers
salamanca
In any regular group, I agree with not grabbing another player's drops. And regardless, they deserve a first shot at grabbing them.
However, in the last month I find myself repeatedly in a situation where I'm handholding some newbie through a quest they should be able to handle on their own. About half of them turn out to be leeches.
At that point, if theyaren't even staying in te near area, I'll quietly fiddle around until the drop is free game and take it for my efforts. (then again, I'm not charging anybody for my help either and I have never had one of these people offer me anything for the help.)
However, in the last month I find myself repeatedly in a situation where I'm handholding some newbie through a quest they should be able to handle on their own. About half of them turn out to be leeches.
At that point, if theyaren't even staying in te near area, I'll quietly fiddle around until the drop is free game and take it for my efforts. (then again, I'm not charging anybody for my help either and I have never had one of these people offer me anything for the help.)
Just Another Dude
Depends whether or not they obviously dont care about it or if you ask and they say they dont want it, otherwise, its still theirs in my mind, I always tell them "Hey ... you have ... over here" if they miss it
Captain Arne Is PRO
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Released items originally reserved for a player should not be taken without permission IMO.
I am guilty of that sometimes, although it's rare now. I am still breaking myself of the Diablo2 habit of trying to snatch good items before all those annoying gits running Pickit scripts get the drops. |
XD
i rarely play in parties except for maybe abbadon's mouth, and i've never found a rare there so it's no problem for me
Rayne Nightfyre
IMO, it depends on what the item is. If it's anything of value that a player would obviously want, I say keep your hands off of it(such as an Ecto in Tombs/UW, Green, Gold items). Sometimes, players aren't able to pick their assigned items up, due to fighting an annoying Monk boss, being dead, and so on. So if it's a case like that, it's completely wrong to pick up another's item. If it's a case such as a clean white Raven Staff dropping, and the player chooses not to pick it up, by all means go ahead. It's not that hard to use good judgement whether or not to pick something up. Personally, I leave other people's drops alone no matter what. If they missed one, notify them of it.
My friend was in a Tombs team once, and three people of the same guild(two of them being Monks) were also in that party. When they arrived to the Darknesses, the Monks let everyone else except the three guildies die. So, of course they did not res anyone after the Darknesses were dead, and waited for all of the greens to default, picked them up, and left. Of course that's an extreme, but be aware that [insert word here]s like that do exist, and never allow yourself in a situation where you could get cheated out of your items(Sadly, Tombs is one place where it's easy for that to happen, and that story did not have a happy ending, the scammers got away with it). Always make sure you leave one mob of enemies left before going after the Darknesses to prevent the timer from counting down.
Edit: Along the lines of my first paragraph, I feel that when you see a Chest (such as in UW/FoW, Tombs, SF, Fire Island), someone should notify the group, I know I've been guilty of totally missing chests right in front of my nose.
My friend was in a Tombs team once, and three people of the same guild(two of them being Monks) were also in that party. When they arrived to the Darknesses, the Monks let everyone else except the three guildies die. So, of course they did not res anyone after the Darknesses were dead, and waited for all of the greens to default, picked them up, and left. Of course that's an extreme, but be aware that [insert word here]s like that do exist, and never allow yourself in a situation where you could get cheated out of your items(Sadly, Tombs is one place where it's easy for that to happen, and that story did not have a happy ending, the scammers got away with it). Always make sure you leave one mob of enemies left before going after the Darknesses to prevent the timer from counting down.
Edit: Along the lines of my first paragraph, I feel that when you see a Chest (such as in UW/FoW, Tombs, SF, Fire Island), someone should notify the group, I know I've been guilty of totally missing chests right in front of my nose.
Vilaptca
It depends.
If you were in the middle of a battle for that long that an item became unassigned or moved on to the next battle without allowing them to pick up their items, and then it times out...then I'd say "Hey those are your drops back there"
But...in places like Tombs, UW, FoW, SF...people leave drops they don't want a lot. I will pick those up. Because after 30 minutes of running around and you still not picking that up, I'll take it and salvage it, its obvious you don't want it, and everyone else could put some better use to it.
If you were in the middle of a battle for that long that an item became unassigned or moved on to the next battle without allowing them to pick up their items, and then it times out...then I'd say "Hey those are your drops back there"
But...in places like Tombs, UW, FoW, SF...people leave drops they don't want a lot. I will pick those up. Because after 30 minutes of running around and you still not picking that up, I'll take it and salvage it, its obvious you don't want it, and everyone else could put some better use to it.
quickmonty
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I pick them up at any chance I get as soon as the person it's attached to. That's how I got my magmas shield. The second it becomes freed. It's technically no longer there's. Hence the term free for all.
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The Herbalizer
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And while we are on the subject of drops ...... one thing that really bugs me is people running around picking up drops while the battle rages on. Please don't do that!
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Player X: Res Please [while battle continue]
Player X gets ressed at a safe distance from the battle
Player X charges into the battle to pick up his obsidian shard
Player X dies
Now I dont know if 4k is alot to some people these days but players dying to get the drop and getting another 15% dp does not seem worth it.
Sents
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I pick them up at any chance I get as soon as the person it's attached to. That's how I got my magmas shield. The second it becomes freed. It's technically no longer there's. Hence the term free for all.
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I hate people who do that they are the lowest of the low, the above is probably one of those people that will leave people dead on the ground so he can grab all their drops when they 'become' free for all, bullshit buddy, you suck you get put on the ignore list forever so Ill never see your name in game.
Back when I was a little less experienced, there were a couple a occasions where I happenjed to be lying on the ground dead while there was a nice drop lying there for me, well two times that I recall, we were on the fire islands, and sometimes it takes a minute or two to reassemble the team, well twice I specifically stated that I wanted the drop and when the timer ran out if its taken by someone I'm leaving, Im not leaving it to chance, drops are rare enough in this game that you shouldnt have to worry about assholes like the above poster, well in the one case no one touched said item, and in the other case some tit grabbed it up the minute it was available, so I told him if he wanted to complete the mission he was handing over said item, as we were allready down to 7, and the rest of the team started ragging on the idiot, and he relented, first making a big deal, and trying to make me feel bad by minimising it, 'oh what a baby its just a freaking drop', I didnt really care, and Ill do the same thing today. I play a lot with pickups, lower levels helping them out, and I give tons of stuff away, Im not greedy in the least, but it just burns me, when people take drops that were not assigned to them, I think they should make the timer 10 minutes, or even permanent. Doing a mission with a monk Im working on, mission was Nolani, and one of the group left a blue dye right at the beggining, like Im so rich right, oh well its his loss, what do I care, so on we go, get to just before the first cut scene, and theres only 3 of us, wheree the other guy ? Hes running back to the beggining to get the blue dye, WTF. We ended up waiting for five minutes for him, he got lost etc etc... If there was no timer this kind of thing would never happen again. Funniest thing, the next drop, I kid you not for the runner was a blue dye......
Fungus Amongus
Now that I think about it, I did snatch someone else's drop once. We had a leech while doing Dragon's Lair. After he did nothing in the first 2 sections, our group decided to begin the third by luring the enemies to him to start racking up his dp in case he decided to return. Anyway, he stood there, took the pommeling and died. Then we killed the enemy who dropped a gold, which, of course, was assigned to the leecher. Someone rezzed him and he picked it up immediately! He wasn't even afk, just greifing/leeching, apparently.
On to level 4: We got him killed again, but this time left him dead. Again he got a gold drop, which noone seemed to notice. Another player also got a gold drop that he didn't notice either. I said, "Hey, Player X, you have a gold sword back there." "Wow, thanks, I didn't see that," he replied. "Dead Leecher has a gold axe over there too," I said. "Lets go spam click it until it unassigns and see who gets it." I got it, but passed it along to the warrior in the group.
Is that wrong or acceptable?
On to level 4: We got him killed again, but this time left him dead. Again he got a gold drop, which noone seemed to notice. Another player also got a gold drop that he didn't notice either. I said, "Hey, Player X, you have a gold sword back there." "Wow, thanks, I didn't see that," he replied. "Dead Leecher has a gold axe over there too," I said. "Lets go spam click it until it unassigns and see who gets it." I got it, but passed it along to the warrior in the group.
Is that wrong or acceptable?
eternal_paladin
acceptable fungus,
its wrong to take the drop of someone who is doing their part, it is NOT wrong to take the drop of someone who is not doing their part, and instead is just standing there sucking up drops/coins
its wrong to take the drop of someone who is doing their part, it is NOT wrong to take the drop of someone who is not doing their part, and instead is just standing there sucking up drops/coins
Nater
Was doing a four man farm for Kepwhatevers Refuge, that new green staff. We lost our warrior after a couple runs, and went to town and got a new one. The staff dropped for him the very next run...he never picked it up. We went and killed Featherfist & ScreamingClaw...never picked it up.
Everyone zoned for the next run, so I grabbed it.
And gave it back to him. Don't be pricks guys, sure, some ppl are dense, but don't punish them for it
Everyone zoned for the next run, so I grabbed it.
And gave it back to him. Don't be pricks guys, sure, some ppl are dense, but don't punish them for it
LouAl
It depends. If they don't pick it up, and are moving on, you should ask...they may have forgotten. If they don't pick it up because they are dead/busy fighting, DON"T ever steal from them. I got my Vokur's Chakram because the person that it was assigned to didn't pick it up, and when I asked if he wanted it he said it wasn't worth anything, then I asked if I could have it...so now I have a new chakram for my mesmer. 
If they are a total jerk yelling at eveyone, aggroing too much, not following orders/called targets, and going afk then IMO you have every right to pick it up.
I had a party for DDF where our trapper went afk for most of the quest. Near the end came back on and started picking up drops that had expired (mostly stone summit badges). Fortunately we did not finish the quest (yeah, I would rather redo it than let him afk finish the quest), but if something good would have dropped for him I would have taken it or given it to someone else in the group...
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as far as the poll goes, it should have a different option of "it depends"
If they are a total jerk yelling at eveyone, aggroing too much, not following orders/called targets, and going afk then IMO you have every right to pick it up.
I had a party for DDF where our trapper went afk for most of the quest. Near the end came back on and started picking up drops that had expired (mostly stone summit badges). Fortunately we did not finish the quest (yeah, I would rather redo it than let him afk finish the quest), but if something good would have dropped for him I would have taken it or given it to someone else in the group...
EDIT:
as far as the poll goes, it should have a different option of "it depends"
zelira
If it's a freeloader, that mission/quest won't last too long anyways. I'd rather split my gold and drops with the henchies than a freeloader.
If we all pull our weight, that drop belongs to him/her until he/she says "take it". Then it's a free for all.
If we all pull our weight, that drop belongs to him/her until he/she says "take it". Then it's a free for all.
The_Janitor
I'd take any unassigned item anyday. We all have a slight sense of greed inside.
Sister Spice
I answered the poll incorrectly 
I would NOT take someones rare stuff - and as others say I would announce it to them.
However, I ticked yes because I *do* pick up the junk white stuff that people leave around - in fact I make a game of it on group activities and scramble around scavenging for salvage stuff that people dont pick up.
But I announce that too - that I am scavenging - so if anyone else liked picking up the junk stuff they get to as well.
Spice
I would NOT take someones rare stuff - and as others say I would announce it to them.
However, I ticked yes because I *do* pick up the junk white stuff that people leave around - in fact I make a game of it on group activities and scramble around scavenging for salvage stuff that people dont pick up.
But I announce that too - that I am scavenging - so if anyone else liked picking up the junk stuff they get to as well.
Spice
stickyballs
Easier said then done. Mostly, I think people will say they will give it back. Generally people do give it back if it's crap, like a gold Chakram or gold Earth Rod. But when an Unided Crystalline or Dwarven Axe drops, what would you really do? It feels nice to say you would, but I know most people would take it, me included.
Sometimes I have taken an item from another player on a chest run. The guy runs to chest, it drops a Req. 11 gold Earth Wand. Most probably crap and a merch for a mere 200g, but NOOO! He yells and flames and curses for someone to rez him so he can get it. We take our time moving around the mob in the Burning Forest. By the time someone has found a place to use Rebirth, it is unassigned. Because that guy is being such a jack@$$, I take it myself and merch it. Some people just deserve not to get it.
Sometimes I have taken an item from another player on a chest run. The guy runs to chest, it drops a Req. 11 gold Earth Wand. Most probably crap and a merch for a mere 200g, but NOOO! He yells and flames and curses for someone to rez him so he can get it. We take our time moving around the mob in the Burning Forest. By the time someone has found a place to use Rebirth, it is unassigned. Because that guy is being such a jack@$$, I take it myself and merch it. Some people just deserve not to get it.
mrbb
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Janky Crackafoo
Wow, I guess I'm a jerk. Not only have a failed to mention to another player that they got a gold drop, I've actually left my group behind to camp on top of a gold drop.
Zui
I wouldn't take it unless they honestly don't want it(several exceptions below). If it's somthing remotely good, or anything gold and they run right past, I'll tell them about it. If they still don't take it I'll ask if I can have it.
If it's crap I usualy don't want it either, only time I've ever ran back to get junk would be in SF FoW or UW after everyone has quit and only then when I don't have an inventory full of stuff.
If someone is being a total retard, or as in 1 mission yesterday runs back to the start of the mission to ressurect their level 6 dead pet that was killed in 1 hit by the first monster.. Maybe I'll leech it. But running for 15 min because they're "lost" and on their way ect..
Or if the person is leeching/greifing/refusing to do anything that might benefit the party in some meaningful way(no, /goteam and /cheer does NOT count as helping.)
If it's crap I usualy don't want it either, only time I've ever ran back to get junk would be in SF FoW or UW after everyone has quit and only then when I don't have an inventory full of stuff.
If someone is being a total retard, or as in 1 mission yesterday runs back to the start of the mission to ressurect their level 6 dead pet that was killed in 1 hit by the first monster.. Maybe I'll leech it. But running for 15 min because they're "lost" and on their way ect..
Or if the person is leeching/greifing/refusing to do anything that might benefit the party in some meaningful way(no, /goteam and /cheer does NOT count as helping.)
koneko
Valuable drops? Sure, I'll ask the person first. Unless they're acting like a total jackass.
I just /ragequit and /tiredquit a failed Forgemaster run (somebody I know needs the armor) with a PUG. One of the warriors did nothing but steal drops. (I stole one of his better drops in revenge for being a freeloader.) When we got to the Temple of War, things got ugly between him (or was he an "it"?) and the others, and it tried to draw massive aggro (while the other warrior's holding the book, dur). It died and quit.
During the entire attempt, from start til end, everyone (including the person I was trying to help) was intent on looting unassigned drops, though.
Guild Wars Helpful Hint #231: Don't loot drops, especially if you're not contributing. I like Vilaptca's stance on the matter.
I just /ragequit and /tiredquit a failed Forgemaster run (somebody I know needs the armor) with a PUG. One of the warriors did nothing but steal drops. (I stole one of his better drops in revenge for being a freeloader.) When we got to the Temple of War, things got ugly between him (or was he an "it"?) and the others, and it tried to draw massive aggro (while the other warrior's holding the book, dur). It died and quit.
During the entire attempt, from start til end, everyone (including the person I was trying to help) was intent on looting unassigned drops, though.
Guild Wars Helpful Hint #231: Don't loot drops, especially if you're not contributing. I like Vilaptca's stance on the matter.
Raziel665
I pick up everything I see when I get the chance, but, if they ask for it, I usually just give it back. Most of the time it goes like this:
I pick something up.
Him: Hey, that was mine!
Me: Hmmm, so, you want it back?
Him: Nah, keep it anyway.
Unless its like ecto/shard/dye/green/gold, they usually want those back, and I usually just give them back.
I pick something up.
Him: Hey, that was mine!
Me: Hmmm, so, you want it back?
Him: Nah, keep it anyway.
Unless its like ecto/shard/dye/green/gold, they usually want those back, and I usually just give them back.
Silent Kitty
Bah! I only travel with strangers, and my Guild is highly inactive and new. I have never heard any of the strangers bother about whos drop is where, and if they still want it.
As healer by nature I see what drops and who takes it. Unasigned drops are always picked up by everybody and nobody cares. I don't even bother to tell people to start fighting and stop picking up stuff. As monk I simply heal and that is all. Sometimes I stop healing leechers, but that is very rare.
If there are people who actually communicate, I haven't found them yet.
As healer by nature I see what drops and who takes it. Unasigned drops are always picked up by everybody and nobody cares. I don't even bother to tell people to start fighting and stop picking up stuff. As monk I simply heal and that is all. Sometimes I stop healing leechers, but that is very rare.
If there are people who actually communicate, I haven't found them yet.
Ermac
I always try to tell people about their gold drops or if they get a dc or they cant be rezzed etc etc, I keep it for them and give them back in town.
One time tough I had this party wich was...well full of "noobs", Ranger running around with mantra of fire and storm chaser, warrior didint know what to do, ele was a water ele , 2 monks that didint seem to know what the hell they were doing. the only nice guy was the SS nec, I was running BiP.
The group got wiped out several times (except for me and the ss), they were accusing me and him for being chickens etc etc. >_>
And then they started saying i was useless and shit.
Well i sat down and did nothing.(first quest done)
They got to the Skeles and everyone died trying to open a chest.
There were 5 gold items lying there.(req 8 chaos axe and req 8 shdow bow amongst others)
Now they started saying I was needed and that I should rez them...
Bah i tought, waited till they went Free for all. Charged in with Illusion of haste. picked them all up, rezzed the necro and gave him a key so he could open it. then me and him ran to another chest and got some neat drops from that too. ^^
One time tough I had this party wich was...well full of "noobs", Ranger running around with mantra of fire and storm chaser, warrior didint know what to do, ele was a water ele , 2 monks that didint seem to know what the hell they were doing. the only nice guy was the SS nec, I was running BiP.
The group got wiped out several times (except for me and the ss), they were accusing me and him for being chickens etc etc. >_>
And then they started saying i was useless and shit.
Well i sat down and did nothing.(first quest done)
They got to the Skeles and everyone died trying to open a chest.
There were 5 gold items lying there.(req 8 chaos axe and req 8 shdow bow amongst others)
Now they started saying I was needed and that I should rez them...
Bah i tought, waited till they went Free for all. Charged in with Illusion of haste. picked them all up, rezzed the necro and gave him a key so he could open it. then me and him ran to another chest and got some neat drops from that too. ^^
TheMosesPHD
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Manda Panda
If you've been acting like a jerk, yeah, I'll take your drop.
In the case of a good player, I'll probably still take the drop, so I can give it back to you, because I can't trust anyone else to do the same.
In the case of a good player, I'll probably still take the drop, so I can give it back to you, because I can't trust anyone else to do the same.
Francis Crawford
There are two extremes here and not a lot in the middle in my experience.
If somebody had the time to pick up a low value white drop and didn't, I figure they didn't want it.
If we're in a big fight and people don't have time to pick up their drops, your drop is yours even if it times out.
I was with a not terribly skillful SF group and one of the fights in Grenth's Footprint became ridiculously hard. I got a gold drop but it had timed out by the time the fight was over. Another guy picked it up. I said it had been mine. He disagreed. I suggested he scroll up to check. Before long, he turned it over.
Had he not, I would have left the group immediately.
If somebody had the time to pick up a low value white drop and didn't, I figure they didn't want it.
If we're in a big fight and people don't have time to pick up their drops, your drop is yours even if it times out.
I was with a not terribly skillful SF group and one of the fights in Grenth's Footprint became ridiculously hard. I got a gold drop but it had timed out by the time the fight was over. Another guy picked it up. I said it had been mine. He disagreed. I suggested he scroll up to check. Before long, he turned it over.
Had he not, I would have left the group immediately.
Manic Smile
tell you the truth it depends on who I'm with, I feel no loyalty to random pugs, unless they've been nice/talkative but with friends i definately wouldn't steal a drop, even if I did pick it up
warkst
If he/she is too stupid to pick it up... Why not? If they're dead, well, that's different. Res them first.
Minus Sign
Far too often, I see this in missions where groups crumble and its left to Birth pulls to reorganize. A valuable item drops for a player, and they are too busy (or dead) to take possession of it.
Intire issue=PUG mentality. Pick Up Groups rarely are capable of attaining the comraderee fo Guild/Friend groups. This is a further degeneration into the Free-for-All mentality that makes me dislike PUGs in the first place:
"So what if my constant rushing makes the mission harder for the monk/nuke/whoever is complaing? I haven't died...yet."
"So what if everyone wants me to bring skill X? Once we're inside, they'll see how leet my build is and know they're with a MASTA! And if they're depending on that skill? Then THEY should have brought it, not depended on ME!"
"So what if its someone else's drop? I'm Poor and all monks/mesmers/eles are 55 farmers! They don't need a few measly plat!"
If you're not in a guild and you act that way, don't expect to get into a GOOD one any time soon (if you are, expect someone to remember your name and report you to a Guild leader one of these days for stealing; Tyria is a smaller world than many of you realise. I've met your guildies and remembered your names. i've asked who your guild leader was and added them to my friends list, whispering them in game. Then i've sent them screenshots via email of the crap you pulled while the group flamed you in impotence and explained how bad a name it gives your guild[a ver Bad Thing with Factions on the horizon]. And i'll do it again if i PUG with you). I don't brake for freeloaders/jerks/n00bs (and if you read my stuff, you know the distinction I make between n00b and newb).
Intire issue=PUG mentality. Pick Up Groups rarely are capable of attaining the comraderee fo Guild/Friend groups. This is a further degeneration into the Free-for-All mentality that makes me dislike PUGs in the first place:
"So what if my constant rushing makes the mission harder for the monk/nuke/whoever is complaing? I haven't died...yet."
"So what if everyone wants me to bring skill X? Once we're inside, they'll see how leet my build is and know they're with a MASTA! And if they're depending on that skill? Then THEY should have brought it, not depended on ME!"
"So what if its someone else's drop? I'm Poor and all monks/mesmers/eles are 55 farmers! They don't need a few measly plat!"
If you're not in a guild and you act that way, don't expect to get into a GOOD one any time soon (if you are, expect someone to remember your name and report you to a Guild leader one of these days for stealing; Tyria is a smaller world than many of you realise. I've met your guildies and remembered your names. i've asked who your guild leader was and added them to my friends list, whispering them in game. Then i've sent them screenshots via email of the crap you pulled while the group flamed you in impotence and explained how bad a name it gives your guild[a ver Bad Thing with Factions on the horizon]. And i'll do it again if i PUG with you). I don't brake for freeloaders/jerks/n00bs (and if you read my stuff, you know the distinction I make between n00b and newb).