FoW Chest Run

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

uhm, you will encounter more hex casting groups(degen, slow down) but it isnt that hard, compared to droks its a little bit easier i think

Lady Erighan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defenders of Gods

E/Me

I can solo run FoW using a R/W or R/Mo build. The spider cave isn't that hard for a Ranger since most of their running skills also evade attacks. The hardest part is probably the entrance to the Forge Courtyard area where you "usually" have to run past the group of Ice Hands and Ether Breakers that guard the path.

Unfortunately, it's not worth people's efforts unless they just want to have fun.

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks
Lint I was looking at your pics did you pick up some quest on the way?
Are they needed if you did?

ps what are the icons just to the left of your health bar
sparks
No i did not pick up a quest on the way. That ppart near the ranger was a resting point to recharge skills.



Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageCloud
how hard is this compared to a droks run? Truthfully, that drok run aint worth it. It is way to easy now. There is to many runners spamming that stuff for 3k, sometimes 2k. The run for me is a flat 22min run. It takes a good 20min to get a full group. So in about 40min, you make 15k... Not worth it. You can make a lot more doing a copperhammer run. I charge 2k for copperhammer, its a 5 min run..... Get the point. BTW there is never a bad spawn for drok runs. Those are just exuses. Drok run is plain out easy... The wurms are not even close to a problem. For wurms you should use charge and balance stance before u even encounter the wurms, you should lose them in 5 seconds.


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BTW, you can Run the forest! Heres some pics of me running it with the same friend above, but i was taking all teh dmg.



Then me making it below. He finnaly got targeted.

S!carius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Germany

Force of Arms [FoA]

Mo/

Bump, this is a good guild and should be stickied or commented on enought to keep it on the front page.

Pizza Pie!

Pizza Pie!

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Poland

Black Spectrum [BSP]

Mo/

@ Lady - can you post in you R/W or R/Mo build?

Dracostamer

Dracostamer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

PuP

E/Mo

Cool, not much profit though, have seen some perfect chaos axes drop =)

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

As R/Mo
my build:
1. escape
2. dodge
3. stormchaser
4. whirling defense
5. dryders defense
6. heal area
7. healing breeze
8. rebirth

attribute lvls:
expertise: 16
wilderniss survival: 6-7
healing: 11-12

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

UPDATED, I added Videos to my giuld.

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

i gonna orginize tours, showing ppl the tips and tricks for 1 key =D

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Quote:
Originally Posted by mathijn
i gonna orginize tours, showing ppl the tips and tricks for 1 key =D split keys with me, 50/50 . Did anyone see the videos yet, are they helpful?

mattjones527

mattjones527

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
BTW there is never a bad spawn for drok runs. Those are just exuses. Drok run is plain out easy... The wurms are not even close to a
problem. For wurms you should use charge and balance stance before u even encounter the wurms, you should lose them in 5 seconds. Never bad spawns eh? I've had worms follow me all the way to the Dreadnaughts drift portal. Not only that but I have seen spawns the have had two Pinesole groups, a group of avicara, and 2 worms that were at the top of the first cave.

Yes the droks run is easy but far from 100% completion every time.

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Quote:
Originally Posted by mattjones527
Never bad spawns eh? I've had worms follow me all the way to the Dreadnaughts drift portal. Not only that but I have seen spawns the have had two Pinesole groups, a group of avicara, and 2 worms that were at the top of the first cave.

Yes the droks run is easy but far from 100% completion every time. the key to make the wurms not fllow you is use charge and balance stance before the wurms even pop up, and when the pop up, just run in a line. I allways lose the wurms after the first pop up this way. Back to FoW disscussion.

Da Cebuano

Da Cebuano

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

Jelly Toast[jT]

W/

See I figured this run isn't very worth it at all, unless you are one of those bastards who have gotten all the luck in the game w/ a very special access key -_-

see:

1500 per key or 1k-1k250 if you buy from people

multiply that for how many chest you plan to open per run.

Say you have 10 keys = 15k

out of those keys, 3 golds 7 purples, chances are, the drops are ****y and thats 15k out to thin air.

Don't get me wrong, i bet theres alot of people who have made a mint from the good drops, but its entirely luck based, and basing on the gold drops i have gotten as of late, I simply don't find it worth the time(especially since going to fow means you can go do the spider run).

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

i got a gold unidentified shadow blade, req 8 last night . thats the total of my 3rd one so far.ii've must of gotten 40 keys or so. thats the total of 60k. And i've sold 2 shadow blades req 8 for 70k each (i've could've gotten more but i dont feel like spamming shit)). and besides the shadowblades i've goteen alot of gold. ALOT. 40/58 were around 10 or less req. 18/58 is basically req 13.

hinhtan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Mo

Unid Shadow Blade req 8 doesnt cost much mow a day I try to sale my in LA and Forge for 40K like 2 hours w/o any offer.

ps sorry for the off-topic anyway nice guide ..thk for sharing

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

Nice, I tag along on my ranger sometimes and just solo the forest- eheh. Makes it easier for the silly wars to run at the end of their tour, too.

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Final Update! Created a new video, made it 1 video, and added music to it.
http://rapidshare.de/files/17697564/FoW_Chest_Run.wmv

I now announcew FoW Chest Run giuld, Officially finished!



~Enjoy~

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

i join, i solo it with my ranger
complete, including spider cave, gonna love the wall glitch =P

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

I'm glad to hear that you can do the run. But did anyone try the video yet? Tell me if it works please.

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
I'm glad to hear that you can do the run. But did anyone try the video yet? Tell me if it works please.
Lint, great work man!
Dont listen to those who bash you for not making a thorough enough guide, or not clear enough... You are not obligated to be doing this at all. It is a blessing to all these people that you even bothered to do this for them! So thank you!

I cant do what you're describing at all... But I'm not gonna bitch about it, I'm sure all it takes is just more practice and lots of gold to waste. (which I dont have and prolly never will)

Still, thanx, since if it's not for people like you, people like me wouldnt even have a slightest idea of all those builds and strategies that give you a chance to get something good.

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

his video is great =D

lint is great 2 0.0

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Thanks for all the replys guys, i do appreciate it . Pritty soon im gunna have another guide up. SOLOing about everything in SF and Grenth footprint with an elementalist.

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

nice, 2 bad i deleted my ele =D

1Kipisz1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oddzialy Szturmowe CB

its very good, but too much people when i build team wont to cheap spider farm

Lithium,

Lithium,

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tears of Fallen angels

R/Mo

You said healing breze in the ranger one, i wouldnt take that because shatter enchant does bout 100 dmg whicxh hurts

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

only mesmers shatter, i use HB as counter on the acients skales(life transfer)
and offcourse 2 support team mates if they are in trouble(mesmer free area's only)

logan90

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Can an ele run it? If so, does anyone have a build? I have a general ele running build but i doubt it would work very well in FoW.

Kyle The Piemaster

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ive had quite a bit of good luck with these runs, and they're loads of fun

Build that I use:

W/x
16 tactics, 13 Strength

Rebirth (for those silly kids that die)
Contemplation of purity
Holy Veil
Sprint
Charge
Endure Pain
Defensive Stance
Healing Signet

If you're about to go through a tough spot, use Charge then Endure then Defensive Stance and you wont have any trouble getting through.

When you pass the skales and get life transfer and siphon on you, throw up a holy veil then use CoP to get rid of both hexes

IMO healing breeze isn't very effective with the 10 energy cost.

And I'd like to add a tip when using rebirth, because most people get someone up then they just drop right back down because of the skill recharge. Bring along a staff for +energy. Rebirth them with your melee weapon up then after your energy drops to 0, switch to the staff and use charge to help the person get out.

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle The Piemaster
IMO healing breeze isn't very effective with the 10 energy cost. Well it is effective when u have low health, endure on, and 10 degen, so cast healign breeze then healign sig b4 you degen to death.....

Nerd! Randy!

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Here 2 Hit

Rt/R

Cool video...I've never made the entire run, but it's fun to try anyway...and the occasional gold drops from the chests aren't bad either....gj Lint



Quote:
Originally Posted by Lint
I'm glad to hear that you can do the run. But did anyone try the video yet? Tell me if it works please.

Bertie Bullet Bow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

R/

FOW is the funnest place to farm, but you need a good team if you're going to play with others. Chests usually give you crap, but chests give you crap everywhere don't they? And then, once in a while...something outstanding drops out.

I've done FOW perhaps 30-40 times (varying quality of teams and durations) and found one very good item from a chest that made it all worthwhile (plus the 20 or so shards I collected). My find was a clean req 8, 15^50 chaos axe. I sold it within two days for 100k +38 ectos (should have got more but I'm still rich because of it!).

While FOW chest runs might be hit and miss (mostly miss), FOW farms are very lucrative - I've farmed with people who've collected 5 or more shards on one trip (plus all the other merchantable stuff).

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertie Bullet Bow
FOW is the funnest place to farm, but you need a good team if you're going to play with others. Chests usually give you crap, but chests give you crap everywhere don't they? And then, once in a while...something outstanding drops out.

I've done FOW perhaps 30-40 times (varying quality of teams and durations) and found one very good item from a chest that made it all worthwhile (plus the 20 or so shards I collected). My find was a clean req 8, 15^50 chaos axe. I sold it within two days for 100k +38 ectos (should have got more but I'm still rich because of it!).

While FOW chest runs might be hit and miss (mostly miss), FOW farms are very lucrative - I've farmed with people who've collected 5 or more shards on one trip (plus all the other merchantable stuff). Well... Its luck. I've spent 100k+ on keys. When I was at the 40k or so I found a Gold Shadow Blade 10/10 Sundering +29hp 15^50. And well, I sold it for a hell lot and with that money i redeamed my keys and money that i spent to buy a hell lot more keys.

Don't worry. Your time will come.

SpaceGh057

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle The Piemaster
W/x
16 tactics, 13 Strength

Rebirth (for those silly kids that die)
Contemplation of purity
Holy Veil
Sprint
Charge
Endure Pain
Defensive Stance
Healing Signet Just thought I ought to mention, as no one else has...
CoP and Holy Veil are monk skills, thus making this w/mo...

Very nice build, I thought I might add, I've been trying it when we get favor.
Not all that successfully...but it's fun.

Pi_Numurian

Pi_Numurian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Numurian Vanguard

Me/R

mpas a little confusing but good job

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

For some reason ever since factions came out, I've been getting very good drops. Just the other day i got 2 shadow blades, req 8, then 9 in a row. Now thats some luck!

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

Is there any KD in FoW at all? I can't remember

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

The abysmals KD

Da Cebuano

Da Cebuano

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

Jelly Toast[jT]

W/

Well, this is interesting and all but the only real deal when it comes to money nowadays in FOW are chaos axes and Shards. Shadow blades sell like crap now and so do the shields w/ the new factions weapons out. Even then, most people only buy perfects, so usually its not worth the time. STill I gotta figure out a way to get 250 ectos b4 factions ends(chp3 release) adn the only way I can get to that is by heavy powertrading, which I don't seem to give a damn for lately. Also, I've been trying to clear everything solo in FOW, obviously no large mobs w/ varying classes, but damn, those abysmals hurt, especially w/ them always w/ mesmers and such. Still, they hurt too much for physical resist and they interrupt too I think.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mathijn
only mesmers shatter, i use HB as counter on the acients skales(life transfer)
and offcourse 2 support team mates if they are in trouble(mesmer free area's only) On my first couple of runs in there i took Breeze. Yeah it works great to counter Skales, but thats it. Even then they can simply Rend it like they always do.
Heal Area is alot better, specially for those chests that are in the middle of groups, you heal yourself and half a team at the same time. They both have the same cast time its just 1 you get the effect instantly whcih can still be quite important with Skales attacking from all angles. Same goes for Spider avenue, the number of Warriors i've seen die because they had to use Healing Signet and WW took them down is surprisingly high. When it comes to healing you need somet useful in every situation, not just 1.

Of course i've never actually ran this on my Warrior, never will either. Apart from the obvious Spider avenue with the Called Shot spamming, evasion is a hell of a lot better than the bit extra armour. If you get hit by an Abyssal near the Tower of Strength, its all over. The rest of them swarm to you and your on your arse for the rest of your short life. The only exception been Cripple + Berserkers at which point your screwed...

In my last few trips i've seen about 200 Focus/Rods drops, half that in Staffs and maybe 5 max Chaos Axes or Shadow Blades. My last 2 trips yielded me a +30 Sword mod and a 10/10 Furious Axe mod (which didn't salvage ) not to mentioned i flogged a Shadow Shield i was only gonna merchant in the end for 5k to the leader
That and cast 'Rebirth' about 50 times... imho a Ranger is a smarter runner than a Warrior. Its truly amazing how many times Warriors just run straight into groups because they can 'obviously' tank through em and end up taking a dirt nap.

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Well thanks to FoW chest runs, I have about everything unlocked