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Originally Posted by Ajantis
mend condition does not work on yourself
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starting a petition to make it so that the skills aren't named so closely to each other.
W/mo , were not all that bad , just a lot of idiots give us a bad name
The Renegade Healer
starting a petition to make it so that the skills aren't named so closely to each other.
Age
Most of those who play the Paladin build play it wrong as it is a supportive Warrior not an offencesive War.It jop is to defend the castors and help them out .I see nothing wrong with playing W/Mo in either PvP or PvE it depends on how you use them.The only Monk skill I use are mend ailment and restorelife on my W/Mo.
JYX
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Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
a real pvp Warrior doesnt use any skills from its 2nd profession... so you can play a W/Mo just fine in gvg
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Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
ever heard of playing a real build?
observe most often high ranked gvg battles and and you tell me... (even my guild doesnt use anymore those old combinations) |
Observe a 7 man War Machine (#4 at the time) win today with with CoP warriors. Observe Peace and Harmony (#8 at the time) run dual shock warriors. Observe no clue (#17 at the time) run a shock warrior. Empty Skillbars (#34 at the time) run dual plague touch. I've also seen War Machine run plague touch warriors before. Hell I've even seen the occasional use of Tiger's Fury, Storm Bearers (#21 at the time).
Russell.Crowe
I love W/Mo because I sit and take all the damage while the casters rape everything =). I also run and farm.
Alcazanar
well yeah about 99% of all W/Mo are noobs or jerks
but thats the way it is when they evolve they realise that
second class monk is not soo good after all and
change to Me (tank) and N (plague touch ;P)
im sure many of you agree with me and the
reputation will never clear up...
next generation of W/Mo --> A/Mo
but thats the way it is when they evolve they realise that
second class monk is not soo good after all and
change to Me (tank) and N (plague touch ;P)
im sure many of you agree with me and the
reputation will never clear up...
next generation of W/Mo --> A/Mo
Haggard
dont mean to turn this into a 55 thread, but have you noticed how before everyone hated W/Mo's and now they hate Mo/W's?
Bahumhat
W/Mo's are easily beaten, e-drain, strip, SS/empathy... the list goes on.
cuevas
I love my warrior, but if u play another prof and go w/ a warrior u can see how dumb some are...
Sirkaze
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Originally Posted by Alcazanar
well yeah about 99% of all W/Mo are noobs or jerks
but thats the way it is when they evolve they realise that second class monk is not soo good after all and change to Me (tank) and N (plague touch ;P) im sure many of you agree with me and the reputation will never clear up... next generation of W/Mo --> A/Mo |
NinjaKai
I have been on missions with plenty of W/Mo most of them we're pretty decent people. I think the whole think the amount of stupid ones is just a little exagerrated. I recently made a W/R. Who needs mending when there are plenty of substitute skills.
midnight caretaker
Tanks are probably the most versatile characters in the game. 1) they can take one helluva beating 2) with the secondaries they lend a helping hand provided u have the right one for the right situation. Case in point is tombs, back when it was new and I wanted a bulwark but would nort pay 100k plus ectos. b/p is fast. I tried getting in one with my w/n but was unable. I know im not a ranger orders mm or monk. How many times have you seen a grasp get past the minnions and totally destoy 1 or 2 people in the group? This would be cut down by the tank blocking better than a minnion cus he has a brain and throw ss out there. This cuts down the time of the run by about 15 minutes. I have tried with a guildy who got me in a group but half way through a ranger died and blamed it on me of course cus im the tank. Wasnt my fault at all either. If you are a ranger why are you in front of the minnions and out of the monks range? Anyways he dropped callled me a noob then another dropped and you know the rest. Basically what Im trying to say is that tanks r not the reason tards die it is usually the tards fault, also why are people against trying to tweek a build to make it better. If the world was like that we would all be playing gw on ataris. Tweak the build they can always be made better!
studentochaos
Monk has some nice options for energy management and and effective self healing. People who call W/Mo instantly noobs are noobs. The Monk line is deeper then mending and contains a decent amount of utility for use on someone who wants to hold aggro.
Additionally, I often play W/Mo with mending in CA for fun. It gets wins. If you build in energy management you can use mending to passively create decent healing in an environment that is low on enchantment removal (real noobs are people who goto CA without enchantment removal and could have, which is 95% of the people). Not saying it is l337, but I am saying it is decent utility.
Additionally, I often play W/Mo with mending in CA for fun. It gets wins. If you build in energy management you can use mending to passively create decent healing in an environment that is low on enchantment removal (real noobs are people who goto CA without enchantment removal and could have, which is 95% of the people). Not saying it is l337, but I am saying it is decent utility.
obastable
I see more "noob" Ele's, Mesmers, Monks, etc., then W/Mo's.. But then, regardless of what class I'm playing at the time, I refuse to run in a group with more than 1 tank. So long as your tank knows how to control aggro, and the rest of the group knows how to let them do it, you only ever need 1 Warrior in your group for any quest or mission in PvE.
I've only ever been in one PUG that I didn't have to explain aggro and aggro control to.
Just one.
Sad.
I've only ever been in one PUG that I didn't have to explain aggro and aggro control to.
Just one.
Sad.
Ajantis
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Originally Posted by Bahumhat
W/Mo's are easily beaten, e-drain, strip, SS/empathy... the list goes on.
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dont feel no pain
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Originally Posted by Ajantis
Got to give you that.. Most arena whammo's kill their entire team with SS
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Battle Torn
Anyone who generalizes about a certain class shows a sure sign of being a nOOb themselves. I see this as a fast way to pick teams and leave out the people who do not have the experience to know the difference (theyre doing you a favour in a way). Ive read a million posts about how most players use W/Mo first etc etc but there are some pretty damn fine W/Mo's out there... this thread starter is one of em.
Ive been called a nOOb standing in random arenas only to be then asked by that person "hey dude where did you get that armour?" (FoW)...hehe whos the nOOb..you tell me
Ive been called a nOOb standing in random arenas only to be then asked by that person "hey dude where did you get that armour?" (FoW)...hehe whos the nOOb..you tell me
OoNoiRoO
My guild runs two W/Rs for tiger's fury. I'm one of them. We just won like 5 guild wars today.
Jessyi
I have a warrior. I can't remember the last time I played her. Why? Because there's about a half million warriors for every one of anything else. I can't be bothered to waste 20 minutes trying to get on a FoW/UW run with my warrior, or any other run for that matter. I have a few secondaries for my warrior, but sometimes I get the impression that this was the dialogue inside the head of the people who created thier first character:
"Hmmm...lats si nwo. wuts this? warrier? ZOMFG WARRIER I GUNA SMAESH SUMTHING KOOOOOLLLLL!!!!11. KK, i got ax now and mneding alrite i gud 2 go."
And then they just played that character and that character alone. The other three character slots they own have collected a foot of dust. Now I think it's obvious that I'm being sarcastic here, but honestly, who needs to deal with the warrior deluge anyways? I just play my monk if I actually want to get anything done. Well...I've gotten a little off topic here.
The point is, as far as I can see, warriors are a dime a dozen, especially wammos, and it doesn't help that it's exactly the kind of choice you'd expect to see from a n00b 11 year old. My theory is that warriors in general (not just wammos) get a bad rep because there's just so many of them. It annoys people who've learned the tactical wisdom behind the necro, the ranger, or *gasp* even the mesmer, to see the million man march of wammos everywhere you turn.
/end thought dump
-Jessyi
"Hmmm...lats si nwo. wuts this? warrier? ZOMFG WARRIER I GUNA SMAESH SUMTHING KOOOOOLLLLL!!!!11. KK, i got ax now and mneding alrite i gud 2 go."
And then they just played that character and that character alone. The other three character slots they own have collected a foot of dust. Now I think it's obvious that I'm being sarcastic here, but honestly, who needs to deal with the warrior deluge anyways? I just play my monk if I actually want to get anything done. Well...I've gotten a little off topic here.
The point is, as far as I can see, warriors are a dime a dozen, especially wammos, and it doesn't help that it's exactly the kind of choice you'd expect to see from a n00b 11 year old. My theory is that warriors in general (not just wammos) get a bad rep because there's just so many of them. It annoys people who've learned the tactical wisdom behind the necro, the ranger, or *gasp* even the mesmer, to see the million man march of wammos everywhere you turn.
/end thought dump
-Jessyi
Peewee
Hehe, its just that PvP players especially get really annoyed with paladins in Random Arena. Obviously there are uses for Wammos, and not all are n00bish (bulls charge and bal aura is a nice combo for the record) but the vast majority actually think that Wammos are the best build in the world cos they can stay alive the longest. It is our juty then, to disaude ppl from using that annoying paladin build, as it is simply terrible. When somebody baits you over being a wammo, just try to convince them that you are in fact helping the tam with the monk secondary, not just helping yourself...
TimberOwl
I think basically, the w/mo is probably the one of the best builds for starting out in GW. Therefore, there is likely to be more less experienced players using them, and hence when these less experienced players make a mistake, the w/mo seems to take the blame.
W/Mo....... is, somewhat useful for solo.. But id prefer a W/N over it anyday.. No doubt about it.
Meh, people are idiots... what do you expect..O.o
W/Mo....... is, somewhat useful for solo.. But id prefer a W/N over it anyday.. No doubt about it.
Meh, people are idiots... what do you expect..O.o
dont feel no pain
LOL O_O how come everyones in [SMS] lol , kinda wierd....... o well.
TimberOwl
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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
LOL O_O how come everyones in [SMS] lol , kinda wierd....... o well.
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dont feel no pain
hehehe , just i see so many above spots in {sms] l,
damm i got to get my pc fixed , i can only go on the forums on here.
damm i got to get my pc fixed , i can only go on the forums on here.
SilentAssassin
95% of all the wammos I came across in PvP thinks he was a big deal and shouting to 1v1 etc... etc...
offcourse there are ppl who make decent builds with w/mo but they are only with a few.
in PvE its a different story, for a tank or farmer w/mo is offcourse a very good thing to be.
offcourse there are ppl who make decent builds with w/mo but they are only with a few.
in PvE its a different story, for a tank or farmer w/mo is offcourse a very good thing to be.
dont feel no pain
i sometimes do a w/mo in pvp , but it comes no where near close to the average paladin build, i often go in with about 6 protection and life bond, the rest of my build is pure warrior, i only take it so that in random areans we have a healer, or prot i can cut his dmg down by 1/2 and give him more or a healing advantage.
frozen123
when i play warr for missions, i never play W/Mo, i only use it for farming. To me playing W/Mo in missions is pointless, you have monks who keep you alive so all you need to worry about is doing more dmg (and keeping your casters happy)
thunderpower
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Originally Posted by pigdestroyer
a real pvp Warrior doesnt use any skills from its 2nd profession... so you can play a W/Mo just fine in gvg
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Just one thing: are "shock warriors" supposed to shock you with their stupidity or what?
SilentAssassin
haha, quite funny yes
its probably som1 who has never played GvG
its probably som1 who has never played GvG
dont feel no pain
LOL , *pokes pigdestroyer wildy*
PHoenix is cool
In PVE they need us 'Warriors' to live.
In missions where would they be without the warrior taking the hits?
How would they get to droks quickly?
I dont see eles running to droks
In missions where would they be without the warrior taking the hits?
How would they get to droks quickly?
I dont see eles running to droks
Killmur
I only read the starter post and a few posts but I am gonna toss in a say. I used to think W/Mo was godly but after so many people coming down hard on me and treating me like a a newb I gave up all together with being a W/Mo. I aint saying there is a thing wrong with W/Mo Builds but I just needed to take the heat off of me for good. After Ascending Dustinia I made the best choice possible by making her a W/R. Since then no one as called me a newb or thought of me as one either. Will I ever do a W/Mo again? Maybe or maybe not. I just am tired of the hatred towards W/Mo Builds altogether.
Lateralus
The bigest diference between good and bad W/Mo is that the idiots use mending in PvP.
Ulivious The Reaper
I've had compliments on my skill as a warrior numerous times in both PvE and PvP, and guess what i am Wammo (unless i'm IDS farmin) but asiide from that i play soley wammo only for 2 basic skills, balth spirit and Mark of protection when i don't trust my monk or assume i won't have one, but other than that i've pretty much soley rely on my warrior skills/instincts to keep me alive, and so far it's worked
Elisa
Real girls play W/Me. 
You've got one of the most effective tanking builds right there at your disposal and very little can harm you. You just "deflect" damage rather than soak it up and you're quite an effective illusion wielder and damage dealer as well. Give it a try. Of all builds I've ever played, W/Me is by far my favourite.
You've got one of the most effective tanking builds right there at your disposal and very little can harm you. You just "deflect" damage rather than soak it up and you're quite an effective illusion wielder and damage dealer as well. Give it a try. Of all builds I've ever played, W/Me is by far my favourite.
Ulivious The Reaper
yeh, i was thinking W/me might be better, because of the distortion spells and all the signet thingys that are lie +blah blah armour vs blah blah blah for like EVER
Cottage Pie
I tank was with in FoW was War/E, they used (I think)
Obsidian Flesh {e}
Aftershock Or earthquake, one of the two...
Crystal Wave
Armour Of Earth
Dolyaks
Defensive Stance
Heal Sig
Shields Up
All I had to do was cast SB/Balths Spirit on them when they needed it, nothing touched them. The Best Booktrick Tank build i've seen, the earth damage they could do really helps smash the monks up
Obsidian Flesh {e}
Aftershock Or earthquake, one of the two...
Crystal Wave
Armour Of Earth
Dolyaks
Defensive Stance
Heal Sig
Shields Up
All I had to do was cast SB/Balths Spirit on them when they needed it, nothing touched them. The Best Booktrick Tank build i've seen, the earth damage they could do really helps smash the monks up
siddy
I use a W/Mo. But my first character was a monk that I played all the way through, so I know how not to aggro!
I use /Mo basically for farming, but with some simple buffs, ie: live vicariously, i try to take a load OFF the healer.
I use /Mo basically for farming, but with some simple buffs, ie: live vicariously, i try to take a load OFF the healer.
isamu kurosawa
The bad wammo situation got so bad with me that i just refuse to play with a W/Mo unless i know they are good, they have been reccomended....or they tell me their build and don't say mending 
that seid, we only have one W/Mo in our guild and he is amazing.
that seid, we only have one W/Mo in our guild and he is amazing.
Sagaris
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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
The bad wammo situation got so bad with me that i just refuse to play with a W/Mo unless i know they are good, they have been reccomended....or they tell me their build and don't say mending
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isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by Sagaris
Ok, now someone is going to tell me why mending is bad in PvE. I use it whilst farming and questing and it works out great for me. What have people got against mending?!
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