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Originally Posted by Sagaris
Ok, now someone is going to tell me why mending is bad in PvE. I use it whilst farming and questing and it works out great for me. What have people got against mending?!
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W/mo , were not all that bad , just a lot of idiots give us a bad name
siddy
Avarre
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Originally Posted by Sagaris
Ok, now someone is going to tell me why mending is bad in PvE. I use it whilst farming and questing and it works out great for me. What have people got against mending?!
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Faer
Mending, eh?
Yes, well, I will admit to it. I just got out of RA with a build containing Mending. But I used it for a specific purpose, and surprisingly, that purpose was not to keep me healed.
I fired my Mending when the rest of the team needed a bit of a break.
I have found that, when I am enchanted with any enchantment, I seem to instantly become the focus of the enemy teams efforts. So, I brought Mending, knowing that when I cast it, I would be attacked. If they are busy attacking me, then they aren't attacking the more squishie members of the team. That gives them time to heal, recoup, and strike again.
I know I'm no super-tank, and I know my strategy is very risky and can very easily get me killed... That's why I use it strictly for RA. Any decent TA+ team would slaughter me in a matter of seconds if I tried that trick. But in RA, you don't know what you've got until you have it, and alot of times, teams don't exactly stop to strategize. I know I can handle a couple Warriors and a Caster or two at a time (for a short period) if they follow the typical unorganized patterns.
Not to sound like a suckup again (you hopefully know what I'm referring to 
) but... Yes, I fully support that statement. I've never really brought Dolyak Signet into PvP before (though I use it in almost every one of my PvE builds). The slowdown tends to be a turnoff when I am fiddling with builds... I like to be able to haul arse in the opposite direction when I need to 
. But, meh, I may actually give it a shot...
Yes, well, I will admit to it. I just got out of RA with a build containing Mending. But I used it for a specific purpose, and surprisingly, that purpose was not to keep me healed.
I fired my Mending when the rest of the team needed a bit of a break.
I have found that, when I am enchanted with any enchantment, I seem to instantly become the focus of the enemy teams efforts. So, I brought Mending, knowing that when I cast it, I would be attacked. If they are busy attacking me, then they aren't attacking the more squishie members of the team. That gives them time to heal, recoup, and strike again.
I know I'm no super-tank, and I know my strategy is very risky and can very easily get me killed... That's why I use it strictly for RA. Any decent TA+ team would slaughter me in a matter of seconds if I tried that trick. But in RA, you don't know what you've got until you have it, and alot of times, teams don't exactly stop to strategize. I know I can handle a couple Warriors and a Caster or two at a time (for a short period) if they follow the typical unorganized patterns.
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Waste of stat points. Selfheal for warriors is a job best left to Tactics, since healing signet heals more than mending by... alot... (counter armorloss with dolyak / phy res / armor of earth ) and also gives some useful PvE skills.
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) but... Yes, I fully support that statement. I've never really brought Dolyak Signet into PvP before (though I use it in almost every one of my PvE builds). The slowdown tends to be a turnoff when I am fiddling with builds... I like to be able to haul arse in the opposite direction when I need to Tufty
Mending works fine for my farming build who cares what people say. Im king of the Newb skills with mt newb wammo but I like to pootle abot on my own and it works well. Nice easy playing for non taxing areas. I think the best thing any warrior can do is team up with a good ranger. Me and my mate have played all the missions together and even when the rest of the team screw up we can always pull it back together. Helps though that we sit in the same room so can talk to each other rather than piss about typing
noice1
Watchful Spirit anyone? If you don't want a stack of points into healing, this skill is Divine Favor and starts out with +2 hp regen and when it's stripped (or shattered) gives 30 health. I tossed Mending the second this skill was available, and it only costs 5 more energy to cast, with only 1 second cast time. I pour everything into Strength, Tactics and Sword/Axe depending on what I do. I can take on Desert Griffons solo with just WS and no other healing this way.
Oh, and about the whole W/Mo = dumb stereotype, had this Ranger the other day during Hero's Challenge running his/her mouth about it, calling us W/Mo idiots. We were trying to get the NPC to come with us, and she was in a mob, so half the group starts fighting and of course the Ranger sits back and can see everything and isn't busy taking hits like the Warriors are. So the NPC minds her own business and keeps going as we got up to her, and the whole party eventually pulled back. But no map pings or arrow on the map telling of a retreat. So I am wondering where everyone is and I look down at the chat (last place I usually look when fighting a mob) and in all caps is: "GET BACK", and "WHY ARE YOU STILL FIGHTING"...then more *reason* for him/her to say W/Mo are stupid...God, what idiot sits there typing that in in total safety (that is, not helping), and can blame me or any Warrior for getting pissed that there was not a clear signal?
I've seen plenty of bad players, and lately, to be honest, it has been Rangers. Had one quit because he thought that a quest was a mission and when he was told it wasn't he just left. I know Warriors can be a little *too* brave sometimes, but cut us some slack, we get you through areas so you aren't butchered, and many give you runs so you don't have to fight.
Oh, and about the whole W/Mo = dumb stereotype, had this Ranger the other day during Hero's Challenge running his/her mouth about it, calling us W/Mo idiots. We were trying to get the NPC to come with us, and she was in a mob, so half the group starts fighting and of course the Ranger sits back and can see everything and isn't busy taking hits like the Warriors are. So the NPC minds her own business and keeps going as we got up to her, and the whole party eventually pulled back. But no map pings or arrow on the map telling of a retreat. So I am wondering where everyone is and I look down at the chat (last place I usually look when fighting a mob) and in all caps is: "GET BACK", and "WHY ARE YOU STILL FIGHTING"...then more *reason* for him/her to say W/Mo are stupid...God, what idiot sits there typing that in in total safety (that is, not helping), and can blame me or any Warrior for getting pissed that there was not a clear signal?
I've seen plenty of bad players, and lately, to be honest, it has been Rangers. Had one quit because he thought that a quest was a mission and when he was told it wasn't he just left. I know Warriors can be a little *too* brave sometimes, but cut us some slack, we get you through areas so you aren't butchered, and many give you runs so you don't have to fight.
Bleidd
I've seen plenty of good W/Mos and plenty of bad ones. I think that just comes with the territory. I don't have hard numbers but from observation there's at least one W/Mo for every other W/x.
I see most W/x running only one, maybe two skills from their secondaries. I'm not sure if that's the case with W/Mos though, as I've never played my Warrior as one.
Preconceptions and misconceptions are pretty prevalent in this game though. Reactive defense over proactive defense seems to be one of them. Thats easy enough to see by the number of groups that insist on a minimum of two Healing Monks for most of the later missions, when a Geomancer, interrupt Ranger, Mesmer, etc. could go alot further towards reducing the damage that needs to be healed. Seems to always be a helluva lot more efficient to me.
I see most W/x running only one, maybe two skills from their secondaries. I'm not sure if that's the case with W/Mos though, as I've never played my Warrior as one.
Preconceptions and misconceptions are pretty prevalent in this game though. Reactive defense over proactive defense seems to be one of them. Thats easy enough to see by the number of groups that insist on a minimum of two Healing Monks for most of the later missions, when a Geomancer, interrupt Ranger, Mesmer, etc. could go alot further towards reducing the damage that needs to be healed. Seems to always be a helluva lot more efficient to me.
Tobias Funke
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i'd like to think of myself as a good wammo, i usually simply go pure warrior and the /mo is for res, its just the people who think that warriors > all other classes give us a bad name
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Tufty
I usually run big on strength low on tactics big on healing. It just works for me! (although Im kinda liking my stances build now) For my play style I pack healing breeze as it takes no time to cast and heals rapidly and sometimes live vicariously or an elite skill for healing. Healing signet isnt an option for me as I like to keep things moving so to counter the effects with Doylak would be undesired. I find slowing down to heal is detrimental in the long run (Im gonna give it a try though)
The other advantage of packing a casting heal is its less selfish in an emergency. If things are going bad my heals are cast to a more usefull member of the party like a monk. Ive had many complements for this one act. Although being a monk primary as well Ive run into my fair share of idiots too. In my opinion if your not part of the answer your part of the problem. If you can heal yourself do it and if you dont need the heal but you can cast it on someone that does do it! Ive monked for too many parties now where peopel dont bother healing themselves regardless of the situation.
The other advantage of packing a casting heal is its less selfish in an emergency. If things are going bad my heals are cast to a more usefull member of the party like a monk. Ive had many complements for this one act. Although being a monk primary as well Ive run into my fair share of idiots too. In my opinion if your not part of the answer your part of the problem. If you can heal yourself do it and if you dont need the heal but you can cast it on someone that does do it! Ive monked for too many parties now where peopel dont bother healing themselves regardless of the situation.
felinette
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Originally Posted by siddy
I use a W/Mo. But my first character was a monk that I played all the way through, so I know how not to aggro!
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isamu kurosawa
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Originally Posted by Tufty
Mending works fine for my farming build who cares what people say. Im king of the Newb skills with mt newb wammo but I like to pootle abot on my own and it works well. Nice easy playing for non taxing areas. I think the best thing any warrior can do is team up with a good ranger. Me and my mate have played all the missions together and even when the rest of the team screw up we can always pull it back together. Helps though that we sit in the same room so can talk to each other rather than piss about typing
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dont feel no pain
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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa
thats the point, its a solo build, and i bet you dont solo in an army of enchant strippres, the problem lies with wammo's who enter a team and use it thinking they are unkillable, then when it gets stripped and they die, its magicaly the other players (usualy the poor monk) who gets blamed becauses mr unkillable got killed
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Winterclaw
Played the game through as a W/E, now I'm playing my W/Mo (got her through the desert). I don't do many PUGs for Quests, but I do them for missions and haven't been called a newbie yet.
Usually I go out with 2-3 secondary class skills, 5-4 primary ones, and a res. It's worked so far. The only real problem I've had up to date was Elbonia Reach and I see that one fail because of several classes. For example a monk who must have had 60% DP (he didn't get the idea to leave the quest item on the ground before a fight and ran all over the place making it hard to protect him) decided to agro two groups of forgotten when we were halfway done. I even told him to wait. He died, dropped out and those two mobs promptly killed the rest of us.
So there are idiots in all classes.
The problem with W/Mo's in PvP is that you are either the last one alive and your healing skills can't keep you alive (which is why mending is bad in PvP), or as the one who is supposed to be the first into battle, you are overwhelmed by the team of 7 shadow strike necros + something else. :| BTW, I play mostly PUG HA PvP so I shouldn't say anything about GvG until I've played it for a bit.
W/Mo's can heal a little better when they stand back and put essense bond on another tank or someone who's going to get hit alot and often, but then you aren't a tank anymore.
Usually I go out with 2-3 secondary class skills, 5-4 primary ones, and a res. It's worked so far. The only real problem I've had up to date was Elbonia Reach and I see that one fail because of several classes. For example a monk who must have had 60% DP (he didn't get the idea to leave the quest item on the ground before a fight and ran all over the place making it hard to protect him) decided to agro two groups of forgotten when we were halfway done. I even told him to wait. He died, dropped out and those two mobs promptly killed the rest of us.
So there are idiots in all classes.
The problem with W/Mo's in PvP is that you are either the last one alive and your healing skills can't keep you alive (which is why mending is bad in PvP), or as the one who is supposed to be the first into battle, you are overwhelmed by the team of 7 shadow strike necros + something else. :| BTW, I play mostly PUG HA PvP so I shouldn't say anything about GvG until I've played it for a bit.
W/Mo's can heal a little better when they stand back and put essense bond on another tank or someone who's going to get hit alot and often, but then you aren't a tank anymore.
Alleji
The way I see it is W/Mo doesn't equal "idiot".
"Idiot" in most cases means a 12 year-old kid on the other end who doesn't understand a damn thing about the game. And W/Mo is simply what most of them pick for some reason. (Probably because they think "zomg I'm strong, I bash stuff AND I heal myself!)
W/Mos aren't all idiots. Just most of them.
"Idiot" in most cases means a 12 year-old kid on the other end who doesn't understand a damn thing about the game. And W/Mo is simply what most of them pick for some reason. (Probably because they think "zomg I'm strong, I bash stuff AND I heal myself!)
W/Mos aren't all idiots. Just most of them.
Lord Iowerth
Mending is only good when echo'd 
Er, well yeah ... on to my actual post:
All it takes is a small percentage of idiots to ruin a reputation for an entire group of people.
The next time you find a wammo who you think might be a little off, try giving some friendly advice or ask some questions.
Ex: "Have you tried using healing signet instead of mending? If you like it, it will free up alot of the attribute points you have in healing prayers"
and judge their response. It will be quite easy to determine if they are a brat at this point by how well they take what you've said. All of us are human, all of us make mistakes. Until you learn by doing, or until someone helpful points it out: you won't know you're doing something "wrong" until you're bombarded by "ZOMG NUB!" and have insults lobbed at you by the less courteous members of our community.
How about we all try to be part of the solution, instead of part of the problem?
Er, well yeah ... on to my actual post:
All it takes is a small percentage of idiots to ruin a reputation for an entire group of people.
The next time you find a wammo who you think might be a little off, try giving some friendly advice or ask some questions.
Ex: "Have you tried using healing signet instead of mending? If you like it, it will free up alot of the attribute points you have in healing prayers"
and judge their response. It will be quite easy to determine if they are a brat at this point by how well they take what you've said. All of us are human, all of us make mistakes. Until you learn by doing, or until someone helpful points it out: you won't know you're doing something "wrong" until you're bombarded by "ZOMG NUB!" and have insults lobbed at you by the less courteous members of our community.
How about we all try to be part of the solution, instead of part of the problem?
Tufty
Well said!
noice1
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Ex: "Have you tried using healing signet instead of mending? If you like it, it will free up alot of the attribute points you have in healing prayers"
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Good advice nonetheless.
On the note of understanding other classes and limitations (and aggro'ing), my first character was an E/Mo. I learned a lot as this class, it does take a lot of finesse and now with my W/Mo I'm a much smarter one than if I never grew up with a weak-armored class that relies solely upon spells to survive and has to keep enemies at a distance.
GloryFox
Ive been playing Warrior Monk since conception (BETA) and will not change. I am getting sick of people auto judging because they see your class. Some of the Best Warriors I have seen have been Warrior Monks and the worst as other builds.
My point is that its not the class its the player. Give people a chance and stop with the word "Noob". Try and have fun for a change. You might discover that the "NOOB" may be onto something.
I remember when people called Barrage Pet rangers "NOOBs". Look who is laughing now in FOW and ToPK.
My point is that its not the class its the player. Give people a chance and stop with the word "Noob". Try and have fun for a change. You might discover that the "NOOB" may be onto something.
I remember when people called Barrage Pet rangers "NOOBs". Look who is laughing now in FOW and ToPK.
Wretchman Drake
Some guild did GvG with everyone using the Paladin prebuild and won alot so it all depends on who is playing it. You can give a total noob a good Boon Prot build and he'll suck bad.
I play Wammo and use Mending and Healing Breeze but get energy management and usually I use an Axe for Pen. Blow/Exe. Strike or Sword with Sever Artery/Gash and for both weapons I use Battlerage {E}. It works out well in RA.
I play Wammo and use Mending and Healing Breeze but get energy management and usually I use an Axe for Pen. Blow/Exe. Strike or Sword with Sever Artery/Gash and for both weapons I use Battlerage {E}. It works out well in RA.
Kern Wolf
I play the game as a W/E (I've never changed my secondary profession). I've gone on all missions/quests with all types of warriors with different 2nd professions. Wammos (or war/x) arent bad; it's the people playing them that are bad.
The reason?
IMO, you can't think about playing any profession, especially warrior, if you're being run from town to town all over the map.
Think about it--you develop no style of fighting, much less an understanding of what your secondary profesion can do, if you spend your time in a town spamming, "need a run to droks", or (wince) "need a run to get infused". And I don't care what anyone reads about warrior being the easiest way to get to know how to play Guild Wars--if you want to be a good WARRIOR/(choose your 2nd prof); you're gonna need to fight in this game (do it with PUGs, do it with henches, but FOR GOD'S SAKE, DON'T RUN FROM TOWN TO TOWN!!!).
Since you're expected to BE the front line, you don't have the luxury of sitting back like a caster, and taking a few seconds to think, "hmmm, let's see what THIS skill can do". Chances are, you want to live through that 1st melee fight (right?) Experience will help you do that. Having to die a few times is going to help you with that, especially latr on in the game.
IMHO, by the time you reach the desert, you should have a number of skills unlocked for both your primary AND secondary profession (earned, not bought), a complete understanding of what they can do FOR YOU (never mind what you read on posts), an understanding of how to aggro monsters, and how to fight AND survive. Once you can do this, I don't care what other professions say; if, at the end of the fight, your warrior is alive, and someone else is dead, no one can call yu a noob, or stupid.
A little less running. A lot more fighting. It helps...
The reason?
IMO, you can't think about playing any profession, especially warrior, if you're being run from town to town all over the map.
Think about it--you develop no style of fighting, much less an understanding of what your secondary profesion can do, if you spend your time in a town spamming, "need a run to droks", or (wince) "need a run to get infused". And I don't care what anyone reads about warrior being the easiest way to get to know how to play Guild Wars--if you want to be a good WARRIOR/(choose your 2nd prof); you're gonna need to fight in this game (do it with PUGs, do it with henches, but FOR GOD'S SAKE, DON'T RUN FROM TOWN TO TOWN!!!).
Since you're expected to BE the front line, you don't have the luxury of sitting back like a caster, and taking a few seconds to think, "hmmm, let's see what THIS skill can do". Chances are, you want to live through that 1st melee fight (right?) Experience will help you do that. Having to die a few times is going to help you with that, especially latr on in the game.
IMHO, by the time you reach the desert, you should have a number of skills unlocked for both your primary AND secondary profession (earned, not bought), a complete understanding of what they can do FOR YOU (never mind what you read on posts), an understanding of how to aggro monsters, and how to fight AND survive. Once you can do this, I don't care what other professions say; if, at the end of the fight, your warrior is alive, and someone else is dead, no one can call yu a noob, or stupid.
A little less running. A lot more fighting. It helps...
Skuld
Yup annoying, on most characters i just use primary skills and take /Mo for rebirth, I can't do that for warrior though -_-
Age
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Seriously if you aren't using your secondary profession at all, you should be a monk secondary so you can take ressurect if your party needs it.
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Markaedw
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Originally Posted by Skuld
Yup annoying, on most characters i just use primary skills and take /Mo for rebirth, I can't do that for warrior though -_-
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Ninetail Trickster
The three biggest things that tick me off are:
3. Scammers, E-Bayed Account Noobjerks.
2. Stereotypical Males (Usually Wammos, unfortunately)
1. Character Class Prejudice. Especially against wammos.
I got into a short argument in Ashford Abbey recently, in pre... guy was insulting someone else for going Wammo there. -_-
Wammos are great.
Jerks are not.
3. Scammers, E-Bayed Account Noobjerks.
2. Stereotypical Males (Usually Wammos, unfortunately)
1. Character Class Prejudice. Especially against wammos.
I got into a short argument in Ashford Abbey recently, in pre... guy was insulting someone else for going Wammo there. -_-
Wammos are great.
Jerks are not.
Cade
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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain
oh god, im sick of idiots calling me a total noob just whenever i play w/mo (i do change my second proffesion constaly but 1/2 of my builds are w/mo)
i get so anoyyed , i was bored so i was going for some avicara farming , i left grainite cidital solo as my w/mo with my avicara build and this guy just pm's me jerk> Hey sorry to say but nooby w/mo's cant farm IDS hahahahaha me> im not ids farming, im going aviacara farming jerk> hahahah noob get your mending in gear me> O_O OK NOT ALL W/MO'S ARE IDIOTS , YES THERE ARE A FEW, and most anoyying thing of all , ABOUT 1 of my builds has mending  , out of like 20 , i use my w/mo sometimes as just a utility *balthzars spirit (energy managment) *eccence bond (same) and in random arenas i hardly ever use a w/mo , and if i do its always pure warrior with succor for a monk , or life bond for a monk breaks the heart to see a premade paladin run around in the areas claiming he owns the world anyone else get problems when playing as w/mo (and you know what your doing) I've just been shouted at in the middle of no where "OI wammo you noob!" , i been pm'd stuff tooo |
The real world has it and GW does too.
Don't let ignorant people ruin the game for u.
garethporlest18
I am a Wammo to the fullest. :P
Nah, I use it for most of my farming because mending is easy and I'm all about laid back farming. Except for Trolls, Hydra, Grawl, Avicara etc. I only have Mo as my secondary because I use only Warrior skills during those times. Also the Rebirth comes in handy believe it or not.
But see I know how experienced I am, and I do know what I'm doing. So I don't really care if people call me a noob.
Nah, I use it for most of my farming because mending is easy and I'm all about laid back farming. Except for Trolls, Hydra, Grawl, Avicara etc. I only have Mo as my secondary because I use only Warrior skills during those times. Also the Rebirth comes in handy believe it or not.
But see I know how experienced I am, and I do know what I'm doing. So I don't really care if people call me a noob.
Kern Wolf
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I thought that is what he said in his post and to Kern Wolf most of them have fought thru the game how do you think they got charge in the first place.There is nothing wrong with any W/X unless it is Iway as it is still dominating HA.
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Count to Potato
Palyway!!! FTW!!!
8 Paladins own HoH!!!
8 Paladins own HoH!!!
Fluffyx
W/mo was probably my third steady character I made. After playing pretty much since the release of the game I havent recieved one complaint about MYSELF as a W/mo. Although I have seen other people bashing them aroudn be but never directed twoards me.
Klmpee
heres what you do when someone says a warmo is bad.. go up behind them.. hit /dance.. and say "you have been ass raped by a warmo! we are not all bad but most of us are gay" I use warmo to all the time but no one ever called me names about whatever..
i like war/nec for fow for bip if you do not have a bip necro.. a long time ago i played with a war using this and my group just owned.. then wwe were down to five including the war and man it was amzing. i love when you get a smart war
I use warmo to all the time but no one ever called me names about whatever..i like war/nec for fow for bip if you do not have a bip necro.. a long time ago i played with a war using this and my group just owned.. then wwe were down to five including the war and man it was amzing. i love when you get a smart war
Thallandor
The GW community both ingame and off should just leave wammos alone, its a vaible farming build like any other ones and no one should feel the need to explain themselves on what they are doing and how they are doing it unless they want to.
PrismOfRedLight
I play a W/Mo most often and like not having to worry quite as much with mending on but mending in RA isnt all bad but its just how you use it, like I put mending most often on the other players in the group, depending on the group and it seems to help.
eileena
i basically dont have any problems whith W/Mo..they are part of the game so...whatever...but 70% of the bad experiences were caused by them...and mostly because they rush....i mean WHAT THE HELL...do u want 2 finish abbadons in 5 minuts?
the go ahead....agro everything....die..and then start mouthin of at the others and especially at the monks...saying that they're all noobs..and so on and so forth....DONT U REALISE HOW STUPID U ARE WHEN U DO THAT????
the go ahead....agro everything....die..and then start mouthin of at the others and especially at the monks...saying that they're all noobs..and so on and so forth....DONT U REALISE HOW STUPID U ARE WHEN U DO THAT????
Haggard
Something about being up close and not seeing the world from a casters point of view gives you more adrenal rushes and causes more leeroys. Its just a fact of life.
BloodBrooder
I like being a wammo. Its probably my favorite character of the four i own. But also have a healer , a ranger and a necro so i know what its like to have crazy warriors run in and your like crap.. lol So far i haven't been called a noob...so i guess thats only a good thing. although it wouldn't be a bad thing since i am . I play the game cause its fun, just found out what an ss was lol. Sometimes the game just turns into a big flame fest over anything. In one night i saw 1 argument about how canada sucked and america rocked ( the canadians won that round though when we convinced some americans that our prime minister was Tim Hortons) Or flaming asians that was another big thing, so my advice is to just ignore them. I am a noob and proud of it woot for not having a clue to what you are doing!
woot for not having a clue to what you are doing!
Ba5sKing
Just tell em you bought this game and ull use whatever skills or professions u wanna use they dont like it well too bad
Wolvine
My Main Characters on both my accounts are W/Mo.
The main difference between a good tank and a bad one is the bad one charges in takes on more than he can handle dies flames every one then leaves. At that point the rest of the part complete the mission with no further problems.
Now your good tank keeps an eye on the squishes in the party and with the group descides what the target priority is ie mes, necro first to due to there abilty to kill or shut down your squishes and even the tanks if left alive for a great period.
Personally My Main Builds are rebirth tanks as rebirth has rezed the group into safe positions on many an occassion.
Quite often my tank is called upon by other members of my guild and people I have meet playing guild wars as then know I will play for the team not just for me which means they do not have to worry that I will not get the group into an unrecoverable position.
Normally I use my farming build with the addition of rebirth sacraficing a damage or condition skill.
for example the wilds mission and bonus I can solo if required so I help low levels and other players through the mission quite regular and like other wammos I do not charge to help people as I Can make enough money my self farming. (its called self reliance folks)
At the end of the day I know how to build and use a w/mo to the best effect for the mission and work I am doing and I am quite willing to show and help other people do the same. As I have learned by making the mistakes myself and have learned from other w/x players who have played warriors from outset and you can only become a good player no matter what the character class if you can learn from your mistakes and can take constructive comments.
The main difference between a good tank and a bad one is the bad one charges in takes on more than he can handle dies flames every one then leaves. At that point the rest of the part complete the mission with no further problems.
Now your good tank keeps an eye on the squishes in the party and with the group descides what the target priority is ie mes, necro first to due to there abilty to kill or shut down your squishes and even the tanks if left alive for a great period.
Personally My Main Builds are rebirth tanks as rebirth has rezed the group into safe positions on many an occassion.
Quite often my tank is called upon by other members of my guild and people I have meet playing guild wars as then know I will play for the team not just for me which means they do not have to worry that I will not get the group into an unrecoverable position.
Normally I use my farming build with the addition of rebirth sacraficing a damage or condition skill.
for example the wilds mission and bonus I can solo if required so I help low levels and other players through the mission quite regular and like other wammos I do not charge to help people as I Can make enough money my self farming. (its called self reliance folks)
At the end of the day I know how to build and use a w/mo to the best effect for the mission and work I am doing and I am quite willing to show and help other people do the same. As I have learned by making the mistakes myself and have learned from other w/x players who have played warriors from outset and you can only become a good player no matter what the character class if you can learn from your mistakes and can take constructive comments.
Sekkira
I cbf reading through 100+ long ass posts, but I'm willing to bet you all suck at playing a warrior.
gragman
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Originally Posted by Sekkira
I cbf reading through 100+ long ass posts, but I'm willing to bet you all suck at playing a warrior.
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Sorry if I have risen to the bait of this troll, but people like this really iritate me.
Reve2uk
i tend to use W/mo if doing a mission with pugs, then i bring mend aliment to get rid of blind or any other nasty condtion on me or some one else, then i bring rebrith
i jsut find that a pure warroir build is good but sometiems rebrith and condtion work out well.
saying that thou, i never farm as W/mo :P, i always farm as W/E or W/N
but there are some realy good W/mo combations, just most ppl have no idea how to make one
i jsut find that a pure warroir build is good but sometiems rebrith and condtion work out well.
saying that thou, i never farm as W/mo :P, i always farm as W/E or W/N
but there are some realy good W/mo combations, just most ppl have no idea how to make one
Ado
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I cbf reading through 100+ long ass posts, but I'm willing to bet you all suck at playing a warrior.
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Didn't have time to read the whole thread, but IMO it all comes down to this. Chosing your build depends on the place where you're fighting. If you know what kind of enemies you are facing you can select your skills accordingly.
Take Mending for instance. If you fight in a place where there are no or very few enchantmentrippers around, what's wrong with using that skill then? 3 or 4 months ago virtually every W/Mo used mending and completed the game with it. Noone was complaining then. Now, for some reason, Mending is noobish. Sure, there are places where it's useless to use, but that doesn't mean that the skill itself is totally useless in PvE. I farm the spiders in FoW with Mending and Live Vicorously. It's not even nescessary to use healing signet then, therefor I can focus totally on doing damage, making a run very fast (I remove my enchantments when fighting against Dryders). Am I a noob now for using that build? IMO no, the build works very well in that situation.
Now a stancetank is the fotm. However, that build is awfull when fighting at a place where lot of enemies use Wild Blow (jade armors for instance). I don't hear anyone complaining about that although many warriors play as a stancetank when fighting jade armors.
So if it's good to play as a W/Mo in a certain place, play it and don't care about what other people might think.