Who'd be a Kurzick?

yangster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Asian Syndicate

Me/E

I gotta say, the petrify forest does look cool but I'm going with Luxon. This is based off of what I've seen and read. I might change once I play.

ShadowXOR

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

They really haven't given us much info on how this whole system works. However, based on that Wiki page I would prefer Kurzick.

I would really like to know more details such as:

Can we change sides later? Can we party with people from the other factions? What's the difference between the sides? Will certain areas be only available to one side or the other?

Basically I want to know what all the game changing mechanics are behind this war. I know we have missions that change the boundaries...but really we have no details on how this all works.

Lexar

Lexar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

W/

I heard or read somewhere that Kurzicks are a society of artisans and craftsmen, so I'm kinda thinking that maybe they have the cooler looking 15k :P

Jas D

Jas D

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oklahoma, USA

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Martinez
The scary part of all of this? People are choosing based on appearances and looks. These are like the people in 15k armor who look real good, but get their 15k butts handed to them by THK and Thirsty. I'm just hoping the good and the bad get split evenly between the two sides. It's hard to come to a decision, but I'm hoping my guild goes Kurzick.
Scary? How? Because people want to play with the environment they think would appeal most to them? You, my friend, are an idiot.

Don't be angry because people have 15k armor and you don't. People with 15k armor doesn't make them sucky, believe it or not. I'v seen people in droks armor and do worse in just about everything, but that's not only the case. Forget it.. Stupidity ftw.

BloodBuckle

BloodBuckle

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

House Zu Heltzer

E/

Well to the point that Anet is leeching off of WoW, thats certainly not true, many games have had this ebfore wow aswell. Hell before GW I play a little game called Knight Online, 2 warring factions. Anywho, most likely ill be choosing the Kurzick side, Nomads never seemed to apealing for me... Hopefully my guild will agree with me...

For all the other Kurzicks, see you on the battlefields!

Also, will there be a certain boundary for how much territory the other side can take, so that you wont be forcing even more people to switch sides, I thinks thats going to be a major push factor, for the hoppers, and newbies...

Goats17

Goats17

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

House Zu Heltzer, laughing at them.

The [GEAR] Trick

N/Me

Just an idea I think is good, the Faction only applies in Pvp and the compettitive mission, everywhere else is open. That would make it much more balanced. Who would want to PvP to try to get an armor set that is only in one city on the other side of the boundary? Exactly.

Jakerius

Jakerius

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Marhan's Grotto, reminiscing about the good old days when it had more than two people.

Children of Orion [CoO]

R/Mo

Quote:
I think Anet tried very hard to not create a "good" vs "evil" scenario. Rather its a difference in opinion and points of view.
Which is the exact difference between good and evil. Just points of view.

I'll be choosing Luxons, 'cos when I picture the Kuzicks, I think of droll abbots in hooded robes walking among a stone dead forest, but when I picture the Luxons I see rich reds and greens.
Imagination FTW.

zoozoc

zoozoc

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Beaverton/OR

Disciples of Birkler [BIR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Kurzicks = Assassins
Luxons = Ritualists

It fits perfectly, I'm gunna be an Assassin Kurzick by the way.

And since Kurzicks and Luxons are like the whole evil vs. good thing. Looks like Sentinel Armor will be going with the Kurzicks along with the army of Wamamamamamo's!!! who will be following it.
How are ritualists luxon. They appear to be highly religious, what with all the spirits and all, and they dont seem to be tuff at all, if anything the assassin is part of krzicks, since they value strength and power over knowledge.

Selerious

Selerious

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Veneratio Tutela

R/Me

I have to say that the Luxons will adopt my band of characters first off, i dont like the sound of petrified forests that much, but ill have to see the environments for myself.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Who deosn't want to live in a petrified forest with stone statue people from a few hundred years ago. Think of the possibilities. Garden statues in every possible position. It's like a flea market. lol

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

TBH both factions sound like a bunch of twats. Just glad the choice isn't mine.

Heres a question, if you guild leader is the only one who can choose which side you pick, then what happens if you guild leader doesn't get factions?

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Living in petrified trees in a religious society (Kurzick) or sailing the jade sea having your ship pulled by giant turtles? (Luxon) Decisions decisions

penguo

penguo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Abaddons Bane

N/

all the people saying assasin is kurzick, i disagree, i believe that ritualists are kurzick because they are the "priests" and religious. Not some bubbling tade hub Riding a boat pulled by turtles does sound kinda fun, but kurzick is still taking my vote.

Northrog

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Me/

Why should be ritualist or assassin more in a side ?

I see ritualist in both side
- kurzicks are religious => ritualist
- luxon are nomade => most of nomadic people are shamanic => ritualist

Assassin is for both side always useful

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

I'm a mesmer, so whatever has the nicest clothes

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

500,000 Kurzicks , than limit is cut off, 500,000 Luzons, than limit is cut off. Only number of people will change when the database feels to up the numbers on either side.

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Our poll for our guild showed a close tie but showed luxon just a bit more popular.

Kurzick folks are just a little shy. (hints them liking the frozen forest.)

Martian

Martian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Arse-end of no-where

Grey Mortals

Me/E

wow looks like my fears were definitely unfounded, although if anything it seems the Luxons will be the underpowered ones!
The moment i saw the two factions i jumped at the luxons for their roaming, vaguely hippy, wildness, but it looks like the forums are full of Kurzicks now.
We're gonna have a fight on our hands guys, LoL.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Something to keep in mind, information from interviews, to "choose" a faction you do missions to get in there favor.

To change, you have to start doing missions for the other sides to and get on the bad side of your former friends then get the other side to warm up to you.

Ninetail Trickster

Ninetail Trickster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T

The Rose Society

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martian
I mean who wants to be a stick-in-the-ass gothic zealot when they could be throwing back cold ones with their pirate buddies in a Luxon camp?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martian
pirate buddies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martian
pirate
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Kurzick. Right here. Freaking Kurzick.
(Bad pirate experiences)

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jas D
Scary? How? Because people want to play with the environment they think would appeal most to them? You, my friend, are an idiot.

Don't be angry because people have 15k armor and you don't. People with 15k armor doesn't make them sucky, believe it or not. I'v seen people in droks armor and do worse in just about everything, but that's not only the case. Forget it.. Stupidity ftw.
First off, go red engine yourself.

Second, it is my opinion that quite a few people who play care more about how they look than about how they play. Who does this hurt? The people who group with them. Like the one person who quit in a huff because we didn't wait to let her (probably him) undress before a cutscene.

So if you want to disagree with my opinion, feel free. If you want to call me an idiot? Yeah... go RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO yourself.

Master Bater

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

From He||

Mo/W

And ill be a Luxon pirate/miner/turtle lover whatever :P

I like the kurzick idea but.. i dont realy feel like living as an Ewok for the second half of my Gw experiance

Jas D

Jas D

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oklahoma, USA

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edge Martinez
First off, go red engine yourself.

Second, it is my opinion that quite a few people who play care more about how they look than about how they play. Who does this hurt? The people who group with them. Like the one person who quit in a huff because we didn't wait to let her (probably him) undress before a cutscene.

So if you want to disagree with my opinion, feel free. If you want to call me an idiot? Yeah... go RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO yourself.
First off, tell someone who cares.

Second, your opinion doesn't matter to me nor anyone else. How does it hurt with the people who group with the side they chose for the environment? People like YOU are the people I hate grouping with. People who think they know it all, you know nothing concerning the circumstances. People want to join where they want for their reasons, you have no right to make their decisions. go RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO yourself. How mature.

And I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean, but I speak english. I don't speak in terms of "dumb***". I shouldn't curse, mommy might be behind you. If you want to insult me, do it right.

Rancour

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

W/R

Correction: If he wants to insult you, and visa versa, go somewhere else.

Get each others e-mail addresses and yell at each other on Messenger. This is a gaming forum, not a talk show. This isn't the time or the place for insulting each other. I haven't read WHO started this and frankly, I don't really care. None of you are being anywhere NEAR mature.

Please, let people talk about why they like the Kurzicks/Luxons without having you two ruin the topic and cost bandwidth. If you have some eccess energy you have to get rid of, go somewhere else and let out some steam.

By the way, I like the Kurzicks. I don't really wanna be a "superconservative" religious cult, but come on, they're cultivated and they have a FOREST! And it's petrified! I wanna be a Kurzick for the badass forest...

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

I get the distinct feeling that I'm going to be spending most of my time on the battle isles and remain unconcerned with the details of the faction war.

But that's me.

Peace,
-CxE

Jas D

Jas D

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oklahoma, USA

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rancour
Correction: If he wants to insult you, and visa versa, go somewhere else.

Get each others e-mail addresses and yell at each other on Messenger. This is a gaming forum, not a talk show. This isn't the time or the place for insulting each other. I haven't read WHO started this and frankly, I don't really care. None of you are being anywhere NEAR mature.

Please, let people talk about why they like the Kurzicks/Luxons without having you two ruin the topic and cost bandwidth. If you have some eccess energy you have to get rid of, go somewhere else and let out some steam.

By the way, I like the Kurzicks. I don't really wanna be a "superconservative" religious cult, but come on, they're cultivated and they have a FOREST! And it's petrified! I wanna be a Kurzick for the badass forest...
Correction: Once you have the authority to tell me what to do, I'll be sure to let you know. Oh speaking of mature, you call us immature but you're the one starting crap with us also. So what does that make you? An adult? I highly believe not. You're just as "mature" as we are.

BloodBuckle

BloodBuckle

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

House Zu Heltzer

E/

Woooow, off topic guys lets get it back on...

I dont really like nomands,I enjoy having myself a nice big stronghold,or petrified forest if you will. I ge the feeling that the main cities for Luxons will just be lots of tents near wrecked ships, and good ones. But hey thats just me, people who want to join Luxons will join Luxons. KURZICK POWAR!!!!

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

im thinking ill be a forest kinda guy, but im concerned how a guild fits into this.....is each person seperately allies, but all in a guild?

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

If your faction (Luxon or Kurzick) is determined by the quests you do (or the choices you make during a quest?), then it sounds like it will be individually decided.

This goes directly against previous statements that Guilds choose the faction - unless, you can be in one faction, but any Guild victories count as their faction... so many questions!

All I gotta say is I'm going to look at both, see the missions and areas of both before I decide.

BloodBuckle

BloodBuckle

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

House Zu Heltzer

E/

If my guild is not on my side then what the hella re they for. A guild is supposed to be united and helping each other out. How can you do that while having to fight against them? Im almost done converting ym guild to Kurzick but if i find any Luxons amongst them ..., thank god they dont show when people get kicked >

Goats17

Goats17

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

House Zu Heltzer, laughing at them.

The [GEAR] Trick

N/Me

exaclty, just read a thing on the GW site, got me to finally complete my train o thought and my decision.


KURZICK POWER!!!1! CREEPY FOREST CULT WITH THE WEAPON OF ULTIMATE POWER!!!! I'm not lying either, or /sarcasming it. i mean all that stuff.

UndeadRoadkill

UndeadRoadkill

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

I want to be a traditional, disciplined warrior-poet, cutting a bloody (yet frighteningly precise and graceful) swathe through the hordes of savages with my katana (if there aren't any katanas or tachis, I'm going to be very disappointed). So Kurzick for me. Too bad the warrior just looks like a fat, lumbering clod. Maybe A/W?

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

Well I'm sure in Luxon vs Kurzick battles there is a 12v12 limit so if you Kurzick you'll get into more battles and if you Luxon you'll have to wait a bit.

Symeon

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

My guild, the Rite of Passage, is going Kurzick. The reason simply being, that our guild leader who has gone away on army marine training and won't be back until after the release, asked it to be so along with other things. His reasoning:

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Covenant
Luxons value power above all. Power we have but we also know that power does not necessarily command respect and leads to the strong devouring the weak.

Kurzicks have strict rules, and value honour and respect for others. An even greater respect is also shown to the elders.

Their Petrified Forest Temples and buildings indicate that judging from our Halls being the Isle of the Dead, the Kurzick's ornate architecture can very easily turn to be our new home in the future.

We respect each other not for our level or age but for who we are, able to support each other through the greatest of challenges. We have grown stronger and more prosperous due to the fact that we know that when difficulties arise we have the comfort of having each other to back us up.

Thank you all for your lovely comments and wishes.
I personally was already leaning towards the Kurzicks. This was partly because I saw some controversy over the Factions split, and whether Luxon-Kurzick would turn horribly into Good-Evil, even though it seriously isn't like that at all. I can see ArenaNet's choice here...it's Ultra Liberal-Ultra Conservative. Two political wings, if you like. Theoretically, it should create an even split. Furthermore, I believe that many players will think the same as me, that a lot of people will wrongly see Luxon-Kurzick as Good-Evil, and therefore those players will make the decision to join the Kurzicks and perhaps even the more 'experienced'. From my brother's talk (he constantly talks to me about WoW and I half-listen), I get the view that it is slightly similar on WoW - that there are lots of players in the Alliance, many of whom are inexperienced, and less players in the Horde, a large fraction of them being experienced players. I'm not sure what's going to happen in Factions regarding the Factions split - I'll wait and see.

torquemada

torquemada

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

guildless

I think I'll go Kurzick. Rigid Inquistor-style suits me far better than this liberal nomad mumbo-jumbo.

It's better to die for the Emperor then live for yourself!

Minus Sign

Minus Sign

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/N

Luxon bound roleplayer here (my monk would cry herself to sleep every night if she knew I let the Kurzick's charge into the Jade Sea to make some turtle soup). I rather hope most of the upper tier PvPers go Kurzick too...

Kurzick PvPer: damn all you Luxon lovers! Come over here and help instead of wasting your time with n00by parttime PvPers! We can't win with you holding these stupid resource missions and I'm sick of always going into GvG at a disadvantage!!!

My perky monk: No! You're evil! No turtle soup for you!!!

torquemada

torquemada

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

guildless

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minus Sign
Luxon bound roleplayer here (my monk would cry herself to sleep every night if she knew I let the Kurzick's charge into the Jade Sea to make some turtle soup). I rather hope most of the upper tier PvPers go Kurzick too...

Kurzick PvPer: damn all you Luxon lovers! Come over here and help instead of wasting your time with n00by PvP guys! We can't win with you holding these stupid resource missions and I'm sick of always going into GvG at a disadvantage!!!

My perky monk: No! You're evil! No turtle soup for you!!!
Hey, you wanna hex me with pvp l33terz? I'll slay your turtle, I will!! ...hmmm where is the evil smiley...

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
If your faction (Luxon or Kurzick) is determined by the quests you do (or the choices you make during a quest?), then it sounds like it will be individually decided.

This goes directly against previous statements that Guilds choose the faction - unless, you can be in one faction, but any Guild victories count as their faction... so many questions!

All I gotta say is I'm going to look at both, see the missions and areas of both before I decide.
You aint friggin kidding. Is it ANets goal for all of us to need to hire full time decipher'ers to figure out WTH they're going to do with this game and if it'll work for us, be enjoyable, how to position ourselves etc etc?

There is a LOT of conflicting information out there

Is faction resolved at Guild, Account or Character level? If it's at all above character level you mean to say my Faction alliance is across all of my linked characters on my account, thus I'd need another GW setup (with associated chapter(s)) to get into the other faction? Or play a game of 'OK so I'm deeply associated with one side now I have to 'farm faction' to reverse the trend I've played throughout the game to play/see/enjoy the other side?'

EQ had goofy stuff like that and only the Mesmer really had a shot of it (funny disguises and 'faction spells' to help out) and that's generally not a fun thing to do. At least there on the same account you could have different characters in different alliances/guilds/factions etc.

And I have to believe FPE will do little to answer these questions.
But we're talking basic gameplay questions - even basic character slot questions aren't fully answered still (so we getting buyable or not?).

sigh

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

Is your account that has to chose a side or can you pick sides with your characters?

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavrik
Is your account that has to chose a side or can you pick sides with your characters?
I don't think anyone here knows for sure.