Merged: Annoying "Chinese bots" in droks

Ramses

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Marhan's Grotto

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i recently got into troll farming and there is constantly a flow of Mo/W heading out into Talus Chute...the line of them never stops! and ive vaguely heard about the chinese farming bots, but what do they do? how do they do it? where should i look out for them? i would just like to know more about them so i dont end up getting scammed by one =/

can anyone help me out with some good info?

Tsunami Rain

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

I think this has to be the 15th (at least 15th) post about bots and chinese farmers. The search button is your friend . Learn to use it. But seeing as how you are new to the board, I'll answer your questions. They are bots that farm 24/7 for their owners who get gold and sell it on ebay. Don't buy gold off of ebay because it is against the EULA (i believe thats what it's called).

Phrozen_

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Hi Tech Nednecks [HTR]

How are they anoying?? Just ignore them and farm your trolls.

Ramses

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Marhan's Grotto

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they are annoying b/c the more people that are farming one spot at one time, the less drops or less good drops there are...(or am i mistaken?) and hasnt Anet done anything about these bots or do they not care? lol

i dont know...it just kind of annoys me that they come over in our districts and get our resources/money 24/7 and reduce the amount we get, and arent even penalized for it..maybe im just still sore over europe having favor for the past month it seems like (though we did for a while last night)

DvM

DvM

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Vlaardingen, The Netherlands

Survivor Squad[SS]

I like them, free power leveling, just keep blind inviting them till they accept:P voila free exp

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramses
they are annoying b/c the more people that are farming one spot at one time, the less drops or less good drops there are...(or am i mistaken?)
You are mistaken. Their actions have nothing to do with your drops. Your drops will...er...drop if you keep zoning into the same area over and over.

Ramses

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Marhan's Grotto

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Amongus
You are mistaken. Their actions have nothing to do with your drops. Your drops will...er...drop if you keep zoning into the same area over and over.

are you sure? i know ive heard somewhere that if you stay in one spot long enough, you will hardly get anything, i believe its something they added a while back when griffon farming was all the rage. it was to stop people from getting uber rich uber quick....but i could be wrong i suppose..does anyone else know anything about the anti-farming thing?

DeathDealer

DeathDealer

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Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dark Side of the Moon....and I'm goin' back real soon

Guildless

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fungus Amongus
You are mistaken. Their actions have nothing to do with your drops. Your drops will...er...drop if you keep zoning into the same area over and over.
pretty much well said....the drops are random and by a group of people farming the area, it will not change your chances of getting a good drop....until anet nerfs the specified farm zone....oh, and they are almost all human players...not bots. Bots run on a program that requires minimal human interaction whereas humans working in a sweatshop (or whatever they're called) are...well...human. I speak basic chinese and most of them are very nice people.

XeNoGeArZ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramses
they are annoying b/c the more people that are farming one spot at one time, the less drops or less good drops there are...(or am i mistaken?)
I don't know where people get these crazy drop rumors. The other one I disagree with is that having 'favor' affects drop quality as well. Favor only affects ability to get into Uw/Fow

Ramses

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Marhan's Grotto

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ok..well im probably wrong about that :-P however, once i was farming undead hordes with no luck and then i got a message "There is a new build of Guild Wars. Please exit and run the program again" and i just decided to stay and farm, almost everyone had left and i kept going, and in that run i got 2 gold sephis axes and a gold rune, not to mention a purple dead bow....i dont know if this has anything to do with the fact that i was the only one there or just coincidence..

DeathDealer

DeathDealer

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Guildless

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramses
ok..well im probably wrong about that :-P however, once i was farming undead hordes with no luck and then i got a message "There is a new build of Guild Wars. Please exit and run the program again" and i just decided to stay and farm, almost everyone had left and i kept going, and in that run i got 2 gold sephis axes and a gold rune, not to mention a purple dead bow....i dont know if this has anything to do with the fact that i was the only one there or just coincidence..
I'd say it was just an uber lucky coincedence...nice P/U though

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

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W/E

Yeah, I've noticed the constant stream of Mo/W's running outta Drok's too...

Maybe I should get some guildies together and see if we can body-block the exit... Annoying i-monks almost constitutes as *FUN!*

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

^^ Haha, that was done before (body-block Droknar's exit), was REALLY funny.

Dead Phlox

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Angelic Knights of Ascalon

N/Mo

Can't body block in town though...they'll just pass through you.

Old Dood

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathDealer
pretty much well said....the drops are random and by a group of people farming the area, it will not change your chances of getting a good drop....until anet nerfs the specified farm zone....oh, and they are almost all human players...not bots. Bots run on a program that requires minimal human interaction whereas humans working in a sweatshop (or whatever they're called) are...well...human. I speak basic chinese and most of them are very nice people.
True! However, they ACT like Bots. Usually what will happen is that area will get nerfed....that will mess it up for us regular players. Since China is limiting what people there can search for on the Internet(Google Lite,etc)...what would happen over in China if they limited their game sites?

Revolution?? HeHe!

cuevas

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

i run out of drocks with my wammo too...im a bot!

DeathDealer

DeathDealer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dark Side of the Moon....and I'm goin' back real soon

Guildless

R/Mo

I know I'm asking for a flamin here but....I love the guys...they powerlevel you for free like nobodies business....its great! Just give them the drops that are assigned to you and they are content like no other.

OK...Bring on the flame fest!

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Yep, hooray for them !

Amor Corazon

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/W

Im gonna aggree with the greatnnes of their free powerlvlling i mean instead of having to pay 1- 2 k per lvl there happy as long as you give em the drops.

Nightwish

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

If they are not using external programs, I do not see the problem. The time and effort used on farming are their own. Why isnt there a complain post on gold buyers? They are the ones encouraging these bots.

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

well its really nice of them to power-lvl for free
but i have to admit that u got less chances to get good grops in certain area if there are many groups farming it... each bot/farmer is a group (of 1 but still a group)... go figure. and its not only gold sephis axes - did u ever stayed in fow long enough for us to lose favor? in 15-20 min after we lose favor shards start raining. or if we still have favor but f/ex its monday and we're entering after 3am est... there are few groups in this area and almost all chests are gold, each mob pack drops at least 1 shard and u can get nice items dropped for u as well. 'overfarming' happens not only when u're entering the same area many times in the row for a short period of time (anti-bot measure i guess) but also when this area is heavily farmed.

fiery

fiery

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Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

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How can they be annoying? I think your annoying them cause they been doing that farm job forever, and recently you just got into it.

Many of these so called bots are actually people farming. Try to add them to your party some will join some won't and some will reply when spoken to.

V-Dragon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Cali

N/Mo

I agree...these so-called "farming bots" are nice people. I blind invited one thinking he was a farming bot so I can get free pwr lvling but it turned out he was a real person. We came across a gold shiverpeak chest in our run and I tried to open it thinking I still had a key left...he saw I didn't have a key and actually gave me one for free.

phx777

phx777

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Golden Dragon Clan

W/Mo

well yeah chinese people are nuts, they have companys where employes play mmos all day and farm for selling (ebay & co.) i think people like that should be discovered and banned..

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by phx777
well yeah chinese people are nuts, they have companys where employes play mmos all day and farm for selling (ebay & co.) i think people like that should be discovered and banned..
ohh i agree that ebayers have to be banned but what if its just a chinese player farming here with his monk in mandatory droks tattoo? u never know... not guilty unless proved othervise so hold ur judgment pls
unfortunately i cant speak chinese at all. alot of chinese farmers cant speak english -and when i'm saying "WBT gold necro weapons with death req" in droks 1 during daytime or auguri 1, all i'm getting is quite a few gold un-id swords offered to me in like 5 min from chars with asian names... but thats my problem and i'm not going to blame them that they prefer to speak their native lang and stick to other chinese farmers/players...

Midnite Dragon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

13 Elm Street

AvA

W/Me

Dont believe my eyes i was standing in Droks dis 2 at doorway to talus chute in a space of 15 mins i witnessed over 300 chinese/korean bots running outside.
Well i have read the licence aggreement of game and STATES: if a player is caught with a bot his/her account will be banned.
Omg 300 bots in 15 mins is anet in on the deal with these bots.
You get caught buying gold from these bots on ebay your account is banned ,but they let these bots run amuck and noone does anything,SHAME on you Anet.
Let the CHEATS prosper while us genuine players have to suffer.

ShadowMagus

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

I'm just going to dissagree with everyone here on every topic/post they have and call it a day.

Dead Phlox

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Angelic Knights of Ascalon

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnite Dragon
Dont believe my eyes i was standing in Droks dis 2 at doorway to talus chute in a space of 15 mins i witnessed over 300 chinese/korean bots running outside.
Well i have read the licence aggreement of game and STATES: if a player is caught with a bot his/her account will be banned.
Omg 300 bots in 15 mins is anet in on the deal with these bots.
You get caught buying gold from these bots on ebay your account is banned ,but they let these bots run amuck and noone does anything,SHAME on you Anet.
Let the CHEATS prosper while us genuine players have to suffer.

We all just pointed out they aren't all bots...I think maybe you should read a tad.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Games like this should only be distributed in countries that allow the software manufacturer to pursue legal action against people who violate the EULA. Some countries actually do not consider the EULA binding and therefore not subject to enforcement through civil action.

Ramses

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Marhan's Grotto

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i dont know, but i really hope Anet doesnt end up nerfing the troll cave (even though its not that good its still a great wood/ parchment resource)

Da Cebuano

Da Cebuano

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Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

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Who decided that these guys are chinese anyway? is it a racial profiling thing, farmers = chinese?

Ramses

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Marhan's Grotto

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W/

oh boy...here we go

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnite Dragon
Dont believe my eyes i was standing in Droks dis 2 at doorway to talus chute in a space of 15 mins i witnessed over 300 chinese/korean bots running outside.
Well i have read the licence aggreement of game and STATES: if a player is caught with a bot his/her account will be banned.
Omg 300 bots in 15 mins is anet in on the deal with these bots.
You get caught buying gold from these bots on ebay your account is banned ,but they let these bots run amuck and noone does anything,SHAME on you Anet.
Let the CHEATS prosper while us genuine players have to suffer.

farming = bot?
bot = chinese / korean?



I duno why are you suffering just because other people are farming.

SnoopJeDi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Saved By My Pinchers of Peril

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da Cebuano
Who decided that these guys are chinese anyway? is it a racial profiling thing, farmers = chinese?
Break out the lawyer stick, somebody said the people with asian characters in their names are....asian!

Da Cebuano

Da Cebuano

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Virginia born in Cebu

Jelly Toast[jT]

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I don't see anyone w/ chinese characters in their names in US servers, unless you count all the white boys naming themselves after asian characters then maybe you're right. If you go into international district, then yeah, I don't really mind w/ the subtle racism here, although it sounds incredibly ignorant and I'm just pointing that out.

Zoskai Kultus

Zoskai Kultus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

just friggin nerf the run already. I cant stand to do another troll/giant farm run anyway.

soySauceNR1ce

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tampa, Fl

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well i named my self sosyauce n rice lol i'm asian =P

as893

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

LOST

I talked to one of the Chinese farmer a few weeks ago. They are not bots, just some poor small town Chinese/Korean kids that got paid 30-50 cents per hour to farm gold for their boss. I don't think you understand how hard the life in third world. We play games for fun, they play games for living.... I feel kind of sad for them........

floplag

floplag

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Join Date: Feb 2006

SoCal

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legit people farming for thier own accounts = good
bot or sweat shop farmers farming to sell on Ebay or whatever else = bad

problem is, how do you stop one, without stopping the other as well ? therein lies the problem

the only solution is for the community to stop buying from these people .. but with so many high dollar items in the game and people that dont have endless hours to devote to farming, that isnt likely either

so ill just sit here content in the knolwedge that ill never had a HoD sword, or FoW armor .. and i can live with that, the problem is many others cannot

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

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Quote:
Originally Posted by floplag
legit people farming for thier own accounts = good
bot or sweat shop farmers farming to sell on Ebay or whatever else = bad

problem is, how do you stop one, without stopping the other as well ? therein lies the problem

the only solution is for the community to stop buying from these people .. but with so many high dollar items in the game and people that dont have endless hours to devote to farming, that isnt likely either

so ill just sit here content in the knolwedge that ill never had a HoD sword, or FoW armor .. and i can live with that, the problem is many others cannot
Quoted for truth and accuracy. This says it all.