New sigil system; Will it help?

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Arran_Pellaeon
Arran_Pellaeon
Academy Page
#1
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With teams soon being able to gain 3 sigils in the HoH instead of one, will this collapse the lecrative market for them? Or will it really not make any change?

Personally, I think at the very least it will drop the insane prices people are charging for them. What do you think?
R
Rahne Sinclaire
Frost Gate Guardian
#2
Yummy... I might actually try my hand in the HoH now.
zim3031
zim3031
Academy Page
#3
It's about time. First it was 4,000. A few days later 20,000. Next 45,000. THen 75,000.
Now people are selling them for over 100,000. Which is kinda funny since the max you can hold is "only" 100k
Adaria
Adaria
Wilds Pathfinder
#4
This is a good thing, but unfortunately, I fear it isn't going to be enough. If there truly are hoarding of sigils, it will only make things worse.

Supposedly there are rumors of the top ranking guilds hoarding them, selling them off to desperate smaller guilds or groups, however if this is true, it will not truly change anything. It merely gives them more supply to use against the ones unable to get sigils themselves so easily.

However, I do have hope that this will help combat the huge inflation of prices and begin to level this out. Let us hope in time we will see the changes...for the better...not the worse.
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
#5
[QUOTE=Adaria]This is a good thing, but unfortunately, I fear it isn't going to be enough. If there truly are hoarding of sigils, it will only make things worse.
QUOTE]

anet will be tracking the number of sigils out there against the number of guilds and if the number of guilds remains low i would not put it beyond them to simply put sigils into the economy at reduced prices to induce the hoarders (if any) to kick them loose

i would love to see a big guild that possibly bought a bunch at 50 plat plus to find them going for only 25 plat and dropping
dbgtboy
dbgtboy
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
it will help much and get the smaller guilds to try the HoH for once knowing they have one hell of a chance at getting one.
ManadartheHealer
ManadartheHealer
Desert Nomad
#7
Quote:
Originally Posted by zim3031
Now people are selling them for over 100,000. Which is kinda funny since the max you can hold is "only" 100k
Two questions. How and why?
Pariah
Pariah
Lion's Arch Merchant
#8
One guy on ebay has sold 10 sigills in the last 4 days, and has 4 more ending in the next 2 days. And again, that's just one guy of the many. That's why.
t
the geckooo
Ascalonian Squire
#9
I think sigils should be something you earn and cannot sell.
smitty-gw
smitty-gw
Lion's Arch Merchant
#10
If the E-Bay story is true, then A-net should act quickly.

We certainly don't want another D2 atmosphere and economy like banning a botter's account after they muled off tons of items only to sell to morons on E-Bay to continue the whole vicious cycle.

I also agree that they should not be able to be sold....period.

Just my 2cents
Adaria
Adaria
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
Just look up Guild Wars Celestial Sigil on ebay and you have about ten items come up or more. Look up Guild Wars alone and you get hundreds of items, gold, runes, accounts, etc.

All of them have some sort of disclaimer such as "you are not buying the item itself you are paying for the time it took to get the item, blah blah blah" just to save their skins from infringing on some sort of law or something.

The Ebay thing began even before the release I think... how sad...
Ensign
Ensign
Just Plain Fluffy
#12
Why would top-ranked guilds horde sigils? They already have more gold than they know what to do with, and they take up valuable inventory space that can be filled with actually good items. I've been moving sigils as fast as I can for valuable items, and I have to imagine that the other top guilds are doing the same. Without guild storage and a pitiful amount of account storage, it just doesn't make sense.

Peace,
-CxE
delfin42
delfin42
Academy Page
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by dbgtboy
it will help much and get the smaller guilds to try the HoH for once knowing they have one hell of a chance at getting one.
How would the three-sigil change affect this?

Smaller guilds have the same chance of getting past elite guilds in the HoH as they did before -- that is, extremely slim to none. The fact that the reward for winning will be tripling does not alter the difficulty of winning in the first place.

The "adjustments to the trader" mentioned, on the other hand, may have potential.
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Shagsbeard
Frost Gate Guardian
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
it just doesn't make sense.


-CxE
Got to agree with that. Why are these things so sought after? Each guild needs one and only one ever. Where is the demand for these going to be two weeks from now, or three? I don't get it. If you could spend them on upgrades or something, then sure... but you only need one... right? And only the guild leader needs one... or am I just missing something?
Soul Monarch
Soul Monarch
Krytan Explorer
#15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
Why would top-ranked guilds horde sigils? They already have more gold than they know what to do with, and they take up valuable inventory space that can be filled with actually good items. I've been moving sigils as fast as I can for valuable items, and I have to imagine that the other top guilds are doing the same. Without guild storage and a pitiful amount of account storage, it just doesn't make sense.

Peace,
-CxE
Excepting those who are selling them on eBay, I don't believe that people truly are Hording them. But just think about how many guilds are out there who "desperately" need a guild hall, if only so that they can roleplay with the other three people in their guild.

A.Nets only real mistake here was in assuming that halls would be mainly for GvG combat, when in reality everyone and their pet donkey just wants one because they're "cool." I'm not surprised that there is such a huge demand for Sigils.
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cyberzomby
Lion's Arch Merchant
#16
yes the trader thing is going to be nice.
After my exams are completed, My guild is going to try and reach the HoH and were going to battle for a sigil first. If that wont be doable because of the stories i heard, we might decide to buy one
chalt2
chalt2
Frost Gate Guardian
#17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
Why would top-ranked guilds horde sigils? They already have more gold than they know what to do with, and they take up valuable inventory space that can be filled with actually good items. I've been moving sigils as fast as I can for valuable items, and I have to imagine that the other top guilds are doing the same. Without guild storage and a pitiful amount of account storage, it just doesn't make sense.

Peace,
-CxE
Ok, I'll take the bait on this one, if that is true WHERE are all the Sigils?

The traders surely don't have them.

I have not heard of anyone just stumbling accross one that was just dropped and left behind on the ground.

If they are not being horded then where are they?

If they weren't being stashed away you'd think there might be some floating around in the game maybe with a trader but we've already established that the traders have none.

I can understand your personal economy for the Sigils and trading for runes and whatnot but what about the guys on Ebay that have 4 or 5 to sell and the bidding starts @ $30 real money. On that note though how many are you holding on to?

T
The IOU
Krytan Explorer
#18
How could you sell for more then 100k?
Makkert
Makkert
Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh
#19
stand next to storage account, and pay in two?
Lasher Dragon
Lasher Dragon
Draconic Rage Incarnate
#20
To me it sounds like this:
"In order to make sure that rich people don't have a huge advantage over poor people, we are going to give the rich people 3 times the income they had before, thereby making their money less vaulable."