"LFG" - Partying for Tombs

Okay, my friend encouraged me to do some PvP and try the Tomb of Primeval Kings. I'm not in a hardcore, large, or super-competitive Guild, so I can't really use that for my party. Still, I've found that just partying up in the game with people - even if they have ventrilo - isn't very effective, as I have little or no idea as to what skills the other players are using, or what their builds gear toward. Plus, PUGs formed on the spot in Tombs generally begin very quickly, with little advance preparation of strategies.

Therefore, I would like to ask if anyone HERE is interested in forming a party with me to do Tombs. I would prefer it if you:

1) Have and prefer Ventrilo (it lags me less than Teamspeak)

2) Are in a similar situation to me (small or no Guild, wanna play some Tombs)

3) Are not arrogant, boastful, or generally an ahole.

So far, here are the people who have signed up:

1) Protection Healer Mo/Me (Altariel Artanis)
2) Standard Healer Mo/R (Borat Sagdiyev)
3) Minion Raiser R/E (Nikron Ke Ra)
4) Disrupter? Me/N (Grant Miller)
5) Tank W/Mo (Juel Dancer)
6) Some kind of Ranger...? R/? (Brodik Whiting)
7) Healer Mo/E (Leon Silvis)
8) Tank W/Mo (Janus Remus)
9) Ranger R/E (Samael Lightbringer)
10) Monk M/? (Sekusi Sarus)
11) W/R (Grimm Snotbubble)
12) Pyromancer E/W (Sekkira Nendedaga)
13) Tank W/Mo (Santanus Perro)
14) Protection Healer Mo/E (Sergei Einherjar)
15) Air Elementalist Spiker E/Me (Lacus Clyne)
16) Air Elementaist Spiker E/Mo (Master Shadowsting)
17) Protection Healer Mo/Me (Aiko Sereno)
18) Tank W/Mo (Mulgoth Bloodhelm)
19) Monk Mo/? (Eva Eternal)

I would ask that everyone please PM or post their current attributes and skills for the character they are planning to use for Tombs, whether or not these things have been refined properly for PvP. That way, we can refine the builds and provide more unity for the party. I will also be pasting the builds that have already been posted into this post, so that we can have all the vital information in one spot. Here are the builds at this point:

Leon Silvis

Attributes:
Fire Magic 0+3 (Fire Eye and Rune of Major Fire Magic)
Energy Storage 7+1 (Minor Energy Storage Rune)
Healing Prayers 10
Smiting Prayers 11

Skills:
Orison of Healing
Dwayna's Kiss
Heal Other
Healing Breeze
Healing Touch
Infuse Health
Word of Healing
Restore Life

Janus Remus

Attributes:
Swordsmanship: 10+2
Healing Prayers: 9
Smiting: 11

Skills:
Frenzy/Pure Strike/Hundred Blades
Sever Artery
Gash
Final Thrust
Symbol of Wrath
Healing Breeze
Scourge Healing/Judges Insight/Banish
Strength of Honor

Samael Lightbringer

Attributes:
11+1 Expertise
10+2 Marksmenship
9 Fire Magic
the rest = Wilderness Survival

Skills:
Conjure, Glyph, Mark of R., Poison Arrow, Distracting Shot, Hunter's Shot, Troll Ungent/Savage Shot, Throw dirt

Juel Dancer

Attributes:
Axe: 12+2
Strength: 10+1
Healing Prayers: 8

Skills:
Flurry
Dismember
Axe Twist
Executioners Strike
Healing Hands
Healing Breeze
Resurrect
Sprint

Sekkira Nendedaga

Attributes:
Air Magic 2+1 (Rune of Minor Air Magic)
Fire Magic 10+2 (Flame's Eye and Rune of Minor Fire Magic)
Energy Storage 8+1 (Rune of Minor Energy Storage)
Swordsmanship 12

Skills:
Meteor Shower
Phoenix
Flame Burst
Lava Font
Seeking Blade
Conjure Flame
Aura Of Restoration
Resurrection Signet

Santanus Perro

Attributes:
Healing Prayers: 8
Strength: 8 +1
Swordsmanship: 11 +1
Tactics: 2

Skills:
Flurry
Sever Artery
Gash
Galrath Slash
Pure Strike
Savage Slash
Healing Breeze
Resurrection Signet

Sergei Einherjar

Attributes:
Divine Favor: 12+3
Protection Prayers: 10+1
Blood Magic: 8
Smiting Prayers: 2+1

Divine Boon
Reversal of Fortune
Guardian
Shielding Hands
Mend Ailment
Smite Hex
Offering of blood
Resurrection Signet

Master Shadowsting

Attributes: Unknown, please post

Skills:
Lightning Strike
Lightning Javelin
Lightning Orb
Chain Lightning
Enervating Charge
Ether Prodigy (E)
Protective Spirit/Protective Bond
"Whatever I feel like for the Last slot"

Grimm Snotbubble

Attributes:
Swordsmanship: 11
Tactics: 11
Smiting Prayers: 11

Skills:
Pure Strike
Galrath Slash
Final Thrust
Gladiator's Defense
Balthazar's Spirit
Strength of Honour
Healing Signet
Resurrection Signet

Mulgoth Bloodhelm

Attributes:
Healing Prayers: 10
Strength: 9
Swordsmanship: 12

Skills:
Resurrect
Word of Healing
Healing Breeze
Sprint
Pure Strike
Power Attack
Sever Artery
Gash

Eva Eternal

Attributes:
Healing: 11
Smiting: 11
Protection: 9
Divine Favor: 10

Skills:
Shield of Judgment
Zealot's Fire
Orison Of Healing
Dwaynas Kiss
Divine Healing
Vengeance
Protective Spirit
Aegis
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We encourage more people to join. Anyone who has not posted their attributes and skills yet, please do so.

- PvP Protection lifebond Mo/W or Mo/Me healer
- Sup vigor, full set of monk minors

Also play anti-caster ranger (closer to my RP char), but I don't have all the relevant ranger runes unlocked yet.

Would anyone else be interested in forming a PUG where we discuss strategy in detail, in advance?

Yea, I would "Nikron Ke Ra" N/E, mainly a minion zerger Have Major Death, Superior Soul Reaping, and a minor Vigor on Drakonor's Forge armor.

taion, I think it may be best to stick with your being a protection healer, since those aren't common but are quite useful.

We could probably also use an offensive mesmer, and definitely some Warriors. Maybe a few air elementalists too, I dunno. We'll see. This is still in the "rough draft" stages. ^^

I might be able to do some tombs action , Grant Miller Me/Nec. focus on Domin/inspiration/blood , and curses. Only thing is I don't like ventrello , I perfer to type. It will probably be easier to contact me by pm here, since I'm going to be on and off in game.

I'd love to finally be in a good Ventrilo group in Tombs. I'm a healer Mo/R, name Borat Sagdiyev.

If you do not mind, would it be all right if you use Ventrilo just to listen to what we're saying? You can still type instead of speak, but the team still needs to communicate effectively. I would like it, therefore, if you could just have it to listen to what's being communicated. ^^;

So far we have the following:
1) Protection Healer (taion)
2) Standard Healer (kukuman)
3) Minion Raiser (Nikron Ke Ra)
4) Disrupter? (Jab)

If we cannot get a third healer, I will take up that role myself. Otherwise, I may be an air elementalist or a smiting prayers monk. I would pick the latter to distract the enemy: monks are always a prime target, and giving them a FOURTH monk to target keeps them guessing, and can make them uncertain of whom to target. This also increases the chances of survival for the healing monks and protection monk.

Those who have already signed up, please feel free to put in more comments about strategy. We still need a tank, and other pieces of advice are welcome.

We could also use 3 more players, preferably 2 of which be Warrior.

Could just form a guild, you know. <3

I have a war/mo and an el/mo if you could use those. I'm in the same boat you are. Names in game are

Amy Payce - War/Mo (RP Char) Sup Absorb, Sup Vigor, Minor Axe Mast, Minor Str
Hemisphere Dancer - El/Mo (RP Char)
Juel Dancer - (PvP Char so changes regularly...Right now, Mesmer)

Need a Ranger?

Nah, didn't think so....

/me cries

I am in a Guild, but it's a very small one. Besides, the Guild leader isn't exactly... brilliant. Therefore, I'd like to just form a group here.

If you're suggesting I make my own Guild and recruit all the people here... well, I think there are too many guilds out there as it is, so I'll just join one someone else made :|.

Morat, I would like to know what kind of Ranger you are. I think Spirit of Frozen Soil would be an invaluable skill to have in Tombs... if you do not have it, I strongly encourage you get it - if not for my idea, then just for the sake of having an awesome skill.

Update on team rough draft:

1) Protection Healer Mo/Me (taion)
2) Standard Healer Mo/R (kukuman)
3) Minion Raiser R/E (Nikron Ke Ra)
4) Disrupter? Me/N (Jab)
5) Tank W/Mo (Hemisphere)
6) Some kind of Ranger...? R/? (Morat)
7) Air Elementalist OR Elmo Healer E/Mo (Leon Silvis - that's me)
8) ... It could be you! *Persuasive point to the reader*

We're still in need of an 8th character... either an air elementalist, another tank, or another healer, depending on who joins. The last person will also affect what I orient my character towards.

Also, please list what times you have free, at least in general. Here's how my schedule looks after this Wednesday:

11:00 AM to 3:30 PM and 6:30 to 10:00 PM EST on weekdays
11:00 AM to 3:30 PM and 8:00 to 10:00 PM EST on Saturdays
12:00 AM to 3:30 PM and 6:30 to 9:00 PM EST on Sundays.

Once again, please download Ventrilo, even if you prefer typing. Some people prefer talking, so you should at least have it on to listen to what people are saying. Thank you.

I am also in a similar situation. I am in a small guild of friends who wish to PvP but we do not have enough active members for a full guild group (especially since we have no monks). I was originally a W/R but I found that I couldnt find an effective build for that in PvP due to always being in differeng PUGs and what not so I switched to W/Mo. Now I use smiting prayers a lot especially for farming, but am still tweaking my PvP build.

Superior vigor, major absorption, minor swordsmanship, minor strength, minor tactics

I also use a Healing ankh with gladiators armor so I have 38 energy

Swordsmanship: 10+2
Healing Prayers: 9
Smiting: 11

Rest of the points I put into strength, although for PvP I will MOST likely be getting rid of the healing prayers in favor of strength, and convert my build to try to maximize damage output to kill those monks off quick, and let our monks heal me

I mainly use for skills something like:

Frenzy/Pure Strike/Hundred Blades
Sever Artery
Gash
Final Thrust
Symbol of Wrath
Healing Breeze
Scourge Healing/Judges Insight/Banish
Strength of Honor

Been switching several skills in and out, still tweaking. My in game name is Janus Remus.

I've never done tombs because (this is sounding repetative) I am in a similar situation

Small guild made up of TWO people, one who is never on.
I have Ventrilo and have been using it for a few years now (for CS)

I'd like to get in on the PUG for tombs, if guys need a ranger.

My character:

Ranger/Elementalist

11+1 Expertise
10+2 Marksmenship
9 Fire Magic
the rest = Wilderness Survival

Skills unlocked:
Mist Form, Thunder Clap, Glimmering Mark, Marksmen's Wager, Poison Arrow, Barrage, Oath Shot, Choking Gas, Incendiary Arrows

For PVP, I usually use:
Conjure, Glyph, Mark of R., Poison Arrow, Distracting Shot, Hunter's Shot, Troll Ungent/Savage Shot, Throw dirt

I sometimes replace the glyph and mark and play around with Barrage and Incendiary arrows, though I have done best in random arenas with Mark + Barrage/Poison.

My IGN = Samael Lightbringer

I'd let you run in one of my pugs, but i'm most definately an ahole, so I guess i dont qualify.

In defense of aholes like myself, being an ahole does get you some pretty solid tombs groups. I run mine like an army brigade, and i'm having alot of fun doing it. Anyway the members keep coming back so I guess they're loving it too. Either that or winning I guess. Good luck tho

Wow, we have more people wanting to do this than I can actually put into a party. Therefore, I suppose if 2 of you aren't on, the other 7 will join me. Here's how the party roster looks:

1) Protection Healer Mo/Me (taion)
2) Standard Healer Mo/R (kukuman)
3) Minion Raiser R/E (Nikron Ke Ra)
4) Disrupter? Me/N (Jab)
5) Tank W/Mo (Hemisphere)
6) Some kind of Ranger...? R/? (Morat)
7) Elmo Healer E/Mo (Leon Silvis - that's me)
8) Tank W/Mo (Joshjje)
9) Ranger R/E (Venom)

This weekend, I will whisper as many of you as I can in the game and we'll form the group, and see how things turn out. However, if we could discuss some tactics and crap ahead of time, that would be wonderful.

Just wanted to add my two cents and say I think this is a great idea and I can't wait to start seeing some organized PUG's that aren't just people from the same 5 guilds that already win.

Feel free to add me to your list of people to check up on for a team. I'm usually farming or playing with my guild but if I'm not doing anything and you need someone I'd like to join.

Sekusi Sarus is my in game name. I'm pretty limited right now to playing a monk.

I can make a warrior of some kind for PvP. My RP character is an ascended W/R but I also did up to Druid's Overlook with my E/Mo before I deleted it.

I'd love to find a good group of people to play Tombs with. It's damn near impossible to find a team because it seems that nearly everyone who plays PvP is one of those ignorant uber-nerds that have like 400 hours of bloody game time.

My IGN is Grimm Snotbubble if you want to get a hold of me.

Edit:
Oh, do they still have that stupid 2.1/2.2 crap for Ventrilo? That's why I stopped using it in the first place. Well, aside from the fact that every clan I've ever played with has used TS.

I would be honored to have a member from the legendary Idiot Savants in my group, but are you sure that I and some of the other group members would not slow you down? I can at least say for myself that I am inexperienced at PvP, but I will try my best to put up a good fight.

This Saturday is when I plan on contacting people and doing Tombs. I have a lot of free time that day, so I would like to do it then.

I am usually on during the day time. 9 am to around 3 or 4 pm. Not the whole time, but those are main hours. After that I am usually on between 8 and 10 pm during the week. Weekend hours are very sporatic.

Ooops. Eastern Time Zone.

Shoot ... I won't be around this weekend. Still add me to your friends list though. And I'm not all that comfortable being referred to as legendary heh. I'll pass any credit for our success to my guildmates. (very flattering though thank you).

The only Ranger skill I have points in is Wilderness Survival. Frozen Soil uses that attribute so I could take it but I'd rather a primary Ranger do it, since it takes a skill away from healing. and yes, Frozen Soil is very very useful in Tombs.

I'm on summer break right now so I have pretty much nothing to do except play computer games. I usually wake up around noon PDT and go to bed around 2am PDT, and I'm usually available to play any time between then. BTW my Xfire username is lolkukuman.

I am usually available during the evenings, SMT.

Oh, BTW... will you guys be using ventrilo 2.1.4 or 2.2 ?
And does anyone know of free servers? I've only used my clan's servers up to now.

Anyway, I look forward to playing with you guys.

heh, I fought against iQ in Hall of Heroes, we fought against them for the whole 15 minutes with neither team having an upper hand, preventing them from winning!

We're not legends. The game has only been out for a month.

Sarus is modest though. He kicks ass, as much as any monk can. (Not yet a legend.)

If this were true, I'm sure it would be frustrating. However, since matches in the Hall only last 10 minutes, I doubt you were involved in the match.

If I'm lucky, I may be able to squeeze in time on Friday. However, I would not be able to play for an extended period of time. If, by some extraordinary divine fortune, our team is very solid and can seize and HOLD the HoH for a long time, I would have to leave sooner or later. Still, I will try my best to see what I can do.

Unfortunately, I myself do not know of any. Originally, I was assuming my topic would eventually die and that my idea was stupid, so I had not planned on looking for a Ventrilo server. Would anyone or their Guild be willing to lend or provide a server for our PUG?

Here's the roster at this point:
1) Protection Healer Mo/Me (taion)
2) Standard Healer Mo/R (kukuman)
3) Minion Raiser R/E (Nikron Ke Ra)
4) Disrupter? Me/N (Jab)
5) Tank W/Mo (Hemisphere)
6) Some kind of Ranger...? R/? (Morat)
7) Elmo Healer E/Mo (Leon Silvis - that's me)
8) Tank W/Mo (Joshjje)
9) Ranger R/E (Venom)
10) Monk M/? (Sarus)
11) W/R (Sovetskeey)

At this rate, there may be enough people after a while to form two solid PUGs for Tombs. Tomorrow, I will try whispering all of these people at around 7:00 PM EST, to see if there are enough people for the party.

Since we DO have more people than a party allows, and since I have the attention of arguably one of the best PvP Guilds in the game, I would like to ask: What would be a good party to form from this lot?

Also, Sarus gave me a PM about giving me advice for making a solid build with E/Mo. While I do want advice, I would also be willing to hear what everyone else has to say. Any suggestions?

I *think* I may have found a server we can use, but I have to check the user limit on it, and it is running Ventrilo 2.1.0. Can connect to it using the 2.1.4 client version though.

So how many here actually have Ventrilo installed and setup? And which version do you all use? I'm currently using 2.2, and you can't have two versions installed at the same time. However, I have a workaround for that...

I'm not gonna be around tomorrow much (except late night/early morning), but I'll be here during the weekend (evenings/nights).

I could always set one up on my computer, I havent tried it yet to see if it lags or if the bandwidth is a problem, but i have a pretty good DSL connection so.

I have 2.2 btw, which is the newest i think, also have TS.

I was just about to post something similar to this myself. However, I'm on the Euro server and don't use TS or V as I don't have a microphone. I can however follow targets so that shouldn't be a problem.

GREAT JOB DETECTIVE, YOU SOLVED THE CRIME!

or I could have just forgot what the actual duration was. after all, it was my first time in HoH and no it wasn't frustrating, I was very very happy to be in a group that could stand toe-to-toe with a group consisting of one of the best guilds in the game.

If you did manage to prevent iQ from holding, congratulations are in order, sort of. Once we get in place we're hard to move. However, I'm still skeptical you were involved- didn't you just say
Call me a skeptic, but I find it hard to believe you made it to the hall after having only earned 2 fame all week- that would mean you won one match and skipped all the way to the hall. It's possible, but happens very rarely.

The other option is that you're prone to exaggeration, which I hear does wonders for your credibility.

I'm not trying to pick a fight here though- leave that for the HoH to decide. iQ is far from unbeatable.

I do have an issue with teams who give up at the start and don't even try to win- why are you playing? To cause the other team grief? I understand we've developed a reputation and some people want to grief us as some type of trophy- I understand that it happens, but I don't agree with it. When I play, I want to win- why do you want to play?

What's even more fun than winning is a fight that challenges you- if that means we have to fight against 2 teams whose only goal is to stop us, so be it. That we lose some of those fights should be no surprise.

But we've won a hell of a lot more.

Did we just sit there and fight you in the the little 1v1 area before the bridge forms a few days ago? If so I remember that fight. Sooo annoying. We were a man down so we couldn't kill you guys. Your monks were using some stances and/or aegis so we couldn't hit them.

Not sure if you need to use my Warriors name to whisper me, if so, it is Amy Payce. Lately I have been on PvP made toon, named Juel Dancer if you want to whisper that name as well.

As for a Vent server, I am more than willing to donate money for server usage.

Moving back to on-topic land...

Once again, here is the roster:
1) Protection Healer Mo/Me (Altariel Artanis)
2) Standard Healer Mo/R (Borat Sagdiyev)
3) Minion Raiser R/E (Nikron Ke Ra)
4) Disrupter? Me/N (Grant Miller)
5) Tank W/Mo (Juel Dancer)
6) Some kind of Ranger...? R/? (Octavian Vanguard)
7) Elmo Healer E/Mo (Leon Silvis - that's me)
8) Tank W/Mo (Janus Remus)
9) Ranger R/E (Samael Lightbringer)
10) Monk M/? (Sekusi Sarus)
11) W/R (Grimm Snotbubble)
12) Pyromancer E/W (Sekkira Nendedaga)
13) Tank W/Mo (Santanus Perro)
14) Healer Mo/E (Sergei Einherjar)

I would ask that everyone please PM or post their current attributes and skills for the character they are planning to use for Tombs, whether or not these things have been refined properly for PvP. That way, we can refine the builds and provide more unity for the party. I will also be pasting the builds that have already been posted into this post, so that we can have all the vital information in one spot. This is my build AT THIS EXACT MOMENT:

Leon Silvis

Attributes:
Fire Magic 0+3 (Fire Eye and Rune of Major Fire Magic)
Energy Storage 7+1 (Minor Energy Storage Rune)
Healing Prayers 10
Smiting Prayers 11

Skills:
Orison of Healing
Dwayna's Kiss
Heal Other
Healing Breeze
Healing Touch
Infuse Health
Word of Healing
Restore Life

I honestly don't know what I want to do at this point. Sarus recommended having at least three monks - currently, we have just 3. However, I could pitch in and be a fourth monk, OR I could completely go in another direction and be an Air elementalist. I could also utilize a bunch of smiting prayers skills and become a smiting caster, or I could use Fire magic for AoE at chokepoint.

Any advice?

Other people's builds:

Janus Remus

Attributes:
Swordsmanship: 10+2
Healing Prayers: 9
Smiting: 11

Skills:
Frenzy/Pure Strike/Hundred Blades
Sever Artery
Gash
Final Thrust
Symbol of Wrath
Healing Breeze
Scourge Healing/Judges Insight/Banish
Strength of Honor

Samael Lightbringer

Attributes:
11+1 Expertise
10+2 Marksmenship
9 Fire Magic
the rest = Wilderness Survival

Skills:
Conjure, Glyph, Mark of R., Poison Arrow, Distracting Shot, Hunter's Shot, Troll Ungent/Savage Shot, Throw dirt

Juel Dancer

Attributes:
Axe: 12+2
Strength: 10+1
Healing Prayers: 8

Skills:
Flurry
Dismember
Axe Twist
Executioners Strike
Healing Hands
Healing Breeze
Resurrect
Sprint

Sekkira Nendedaga

Attributes:
Air Magic 2+1 (Rune of Minor Air Magic)
Fire Magic 10+2 (Flame's Eye and Rune of Minor Fire Magic)
Energy Storage 8+1 (Rune of Minor Energy Storage)
Swordsmanship 12

Skills:
Meteor Shower
Phoenix
Flame Burst
Lava Font
Seeking Blade
Conjure Flame
Aura Of Restoration
Resurrection Signet

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Sarus recommended that we try to have the non healers focus on disruption and stopping other healers from being able to do their job. With the large number of Rangers signed up, this would probably be possible - however, I do not know much about the Ranger profession, so I do not know what skills would be proper for that task (other than the insanely annoying Distracting Shot ._.)

I may have to delay what time we do Tombs, because I think it is best that we do as much advance preparation as possible. Being able to seize HoH is a huge challenge, so we have to be able to give 110% when we get there.

Edits:
1) Added the builds that have been presented to me.
2) Updated roster.

Well in that case:

Attributes:
Air Magic 2+1 (Rune of Minor Air Magic)
Fire Magic 10+2 (Flame's Eye and Rune of Minor Fire Magic)
Energy Storage 8+1 (Rune of Minor Energy Storage)
Swordsmanship 12

Skills:
Meteor Shower
Phoenix
Flame Burst
Lava Font
Seeking Blade
Conjure Flame
Aura Of Restoration
Ressurection Signet

This build so far allows me to do some pretty hefty damage while staying alive nicely. The res signet is there in case our healer/protector goes down. Someone needs to get them up quickly. The Meteor Shower is mainly for spike damage and if someone's caught in it, it's mere seconds until I take them down with my AoE's.

Healing 8
Strength 8 +1
Sword 11 +1
Tactics 2

Flurry
Sever Artery
Gash
Galrath Slash
Pure Strike
Savage Slash
Healing Breeze
Rez Signet

I'm very interested. Sign me up!

<-- IGN
I play prot monk mostly. Can go Elem for wards or other secondaries.

Current build: Modified Fi Booner (Prot)

DF 12+3
Prot 10+1
Blood 8
Smiting 2+1

Divine Boon
RoF
Guardian
Shielding Hands
Mend Ailment
Smite Hex
Offering of blood
Rez signet

Filter and Santanus, I have added your names to the roster. Please PM me or edit your posts with information about your characters. I need to know your attributes and skills you use the most OR plan to use for the group. Thanks.

So far, 14 people have signed up. At this rate, we may have to form TWO PUGs for Tombs. I can't wait ^_^

Will do, I am at work right now, but when I get home will edit profile. I will also need the ventrilo server IP, port number and password. Of course, we can do that in game.

That was probably us. We had loads of wards up, aegis cycled and I had a few stances.

Calling me a liar and a histrionic in public and then deleting my posts pointing out your unfair treatment of me is no way to make friends. Come on man, you're a mod, you should know better.