All the weird naked dancing people in Guild Wars.

Ren Falconhand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Passed out on my Keyboard from lack of sleep from playing GW too much

The Harpers

R/Mo

30 Mar 2005 at 02:44 - 41

[QUOTE=Bousiris Hierophos]

BTW, how can one complain about the moral message offered by a game that proudly features killing other human beings wantonly in a PvP arena? Naked dancing is wrong, but mass destruction of others based on guild tags is OK?

QUOTE]
Way to go Hierophos

This is what still gets me mad

the Double standard in games and movies why is it bad or amoral to show people dance nude or semi-nude but it is ok the kill hundreds of people. I personal think death is a little more harmful than sex. In other Countries they have nude people reading the news. (a little xtream I know but I was just useing it for an example) "A put on clothes button" is fine but I do not want to have to wait even a few more weeks so they have to change such a minor part of the game that will just change with time anyway. I think Anet (was wrong in other post when I said Bnet) Is doing a Great job and would hate to tie up Precious game Developing time on a moral debate. just one nutcases Opinion.

Ren

Ice Kold

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 02:55 - 42

1. if you are worried about your wife coming in and seeing people in their boxers dancing on your screen you shouldn't be watching them.

2. If your wife thinks people dancing means they are having sex, maybe its time you showed her what sex really is.

3. If #2 isn't an option, you can always explain to her that they are 'dancing' not having sex, nor are they naked.

I think they should let you dye your boxers different colors.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 03:01 - 43

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

(bold by me)

How about this, it IS a game so leave the objectionalable things out of it.
objectionable to you

Why do we have to leave? Do you just leave when presented something you find objectionable, probably not. We're not less than human nor did we pay less for the game, so we're not the ones that should leave.

why should THEY leave because YOU object?

It is a very valid arguement because we have also paid for the game. And this game is not rated adults only. It is rated E.

not e but t and they paid also

Actually our maturity level is pretty high along with our moral standards. If you have a family there is no time when they're not around. And why would one go sneaking around to play, that's being deceitful. There is no reason why one can't play in the open a game that's rated E. If you have children you understand the issue pretty clearly.

only considering YOUR standards as worthy

Don't trash people's moral standards. We're not idiots or less than human because we have them.

and the people you criticize have no standards or inferior ones

and to clarify THEY ARE NOT NUDE

walder

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 03:07 - 44

There is no way to stop people from dancing in their underwear, but if it bothers you that much then when you see it, right click and turn so that you don't see it. Not that big a deal. If its everywhere around you then switch districts. Once again, it is only minimal effort to fix your problem.

Mss Drizzt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

communist state of NJ

30 Mar 2005 at 03:14 - 45

I would just like to add

IT IS JUST A GAME

Lets all have fun and get along.

Trexton

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 03:17 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

so what you're saying is we're unteachable or that one can only have fun if they're half naked or??

You can start by realizing that there is more than one way to have fun in a game. Some have fun RPing, some enjoy PKing, some enjoy farming, and some enjoy dancing semi-naked at fountains.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

Why do we have to leave? Do you just leave when presented something you find objectionable, probably not. We're not less than human nor did we pay less for the game, so we're not the ones that should leave.

Well you should be the one to leave because you are the one with the problem.

I also don't understand how you feel "degraded" by clicking on switch district in the upper left hand corner of your UI.

I would recommend trying to solve your problem on your own before venturing out for others to solve it for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

It is a very valid arguement because we have also paid for the game. And this game is not rated adults only. It is rated E.

T-rating

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

Actually our maturity level is pretty high along with our moral standards. If you have a family there is no time when they're not around. And why would one go sneaking around to play, that's being deceitful. There is no reason why one can't play in the open a game that's rated E. If you have children you understand the issue pretty clearly.

Do you ever take your kids to the pool? Do you complain about people being indecent there? A swimsuit doesn't look that much different than people running around in GW undies.

Stick Out Tongue

But on a serious note. Your children should not be in the room if you feel they cannot handle the exposure of the semi-nude dancers. Saying that violence is ok but nudity is not is naive- and you should be ashamed of yourself if you think nudity is worse than cutting someone down in a video game.

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Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

Don't trash people's moral standards. We're not idiots or less than human because we have them.

Never claimed that you were an idiot nor did I trash your "standards". That is the angry puritain talking inside of you.
If you have such high morals then you will be kind enough to isolate and solve your problem on your own. No one is forcing you to watch naked dancers- for goodness sake just ROTATE YOUR CAMERA if it be!

Great example of how American society works here. Sex is bad! Flesh is bad! Provakative movements are bad! Yet- when it comes to cutting down another human being in an animation it's all of the sudden.... ok?

-- There are limits and reasons for filters. It is for those areas that cross a line that it can be agreed by the general public to require moderation. Gore, Mature taunts, and chat filters can all be seen as a threat to offend someone. The level exposure in guildwars however, is not crossing one of those boundaries.

Ren Falconhand

Krytan Explorer

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The Harpers

R/Mo

30 Mar 2005 at 03:24 - 47

Thanks to Trexton for saying what I was trying to get a cross. Also how did you do that cool split quote box thing. I tryed it and it did not work for me. (as everbody could see) I can only get the quote box if I use the whole post and some are just too big to do that.

Ren

thegriffgeeks

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R/Mo

30 Mar 2005 at 03:26 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

and the people you criticize have no standards or inferior ones

and to clarify THEY ARE NOT NUDE

I never said they were nude! Half naked & nude aren't the same.

point 2 It is We who are being criticized and trashed for having morals...and I didn't criticize anyone. You only accuse me of criticizing because you don't agree with our point of view.

point 3: Feel free to go around and trash my standards, but then don't be surprised if i respond. and don't get all accusatory saying you're being criticized when you're not.

DarkWasp

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30 Mar 2005 at 03:27 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kha

If you can't beat them, then join them

You stole the words right out of my mouth.

Mss Drizzt

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30 Mar 2005 at 03:34 - 50

Ladies and Gentlemen the round is about to start. Please take your seats we will be getting started here shortly.

Ding Ding

Both sides come out swinging and we have a double K.O..

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 03:35 - 51

[QUOTE=thegriffgeeks]

point 2 It is We who are being criticized and trashed for having morals...and I didn't criticize anyone. You only accuse me of criticizing because you don't agree with our point of view.

QUOTE]

again you make my point for me

you are being criticized for having morals

and all who disagree ..........dont?

EDIT

i see no point in my continuing in this discussion

before it drops lower i will agree to disagree

thegriffgeeks

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30 Mar 2005 at 03:47 - 52

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This one is pretty straightforward. We encourage discussion and healthy debate, and personal attacks are not warranted in either.

Trexton, no chance you crossed the line in your second post?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trexton

The level exposure in guildwars however, is not crossing one of those boundaries.

And you would know this because? What....you determine the ratings?! The information on ratings can be found here.
http://www.esrb.org/esrbratings_guide.asp

It clearly states: "TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood and/or infrequent use of strong language" And the rating on this game is Teen with violence.

If typed content has a filter so should visual content. If I don't want to see it, a filter should be available and leaving shouldn't be my only choice. If I don't want to hear it, I set a filter.....not leave. BTW the last time I check this game isn't about dancing in your undies it's about questing and fighting "bad guys." I don't care if anyone dances in GW butt naked...I don't want to watch it! I don't care if anyone wants to swear in GW, but I don't want to hear it. That is the general point here.

Chev of Hardass

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30 Mar 2005 at 04:10 - 53

How about when setting up an account, or creating a character, a rating mode is set. I think that changing the dances is more than likely out of the question, coding wise, so could be my suggestion for that matter.

This would prevent those that choose the *?* rating from seeing the skivvies of the other players. That should be fine with those that want to see themselves almost nekkid.

How about a new poll? One that allows those that are impartial or like to see the skivvies to make their voice heard.......

Darkmane

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 04:35 - 54

I just like to add my 2 cents to the posts I find a waste of time.. (since I currently have some time to waste)

I'd like to say something like ' people that nit pick about a game's mechanics in this particular way are just the kind of people that nit pick about any little 'misguided and demented thing they see online'

I simply do not see what the big deal is usually the people dancing are just finding something to do with the last few minutes of gameplay. Those that are dancing in their skivies all the time may have other issues to deal with, it is really not that big of a deal.

I can't remember the poster but that person that stated Americans are taught that being nude or half nude is the naughtiest thing in the whole wide world. It is kinda sad that a lof of people are so afraid of their own bodies that they can't handle seeing someone elses. Keep in mind here that these dancers are not completely naked.

I think you should add to the poll~ People that want current dancing mechanics left alone.

Heres a good filter

#1 ...If you have a scroll button mouse ... scroll all the way forward to first person view and turn your head away from the dancing.

#2...Too many people dancing.... Go to the International district .. wooo hardly ever anyone in that district.

I simply can't believe there is a heated post about naked dancing ... but .. here we are

Simply the same people that complain about violence in games.

Trexton

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 05:55 - 55

Griffgeek my point is not about morals. But I do truly believe that guildwars was rated "T" for the violence and suggestive (Fantasy) material and not for the so called "Nudity". If people were dancing in their panties in fountains IRL- then I would totally agree. It's the fact that it is a game and you want a company to spend their time and their resources for a problem that you have and can solve on your own in a matter of seconds.

spiritofcat

Jungle Guide

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E/Mo

30 Mar 2005 at 06:19 - 56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trexton

Griffgeek my point is not about morals. But I do truly believe that guildwars was rated "T" for the violence and suggestive (Fantasy) material and not for the so called "Nudity". If people were dancing in their panties in fountains IRL- then I would totally agree. It's the fact that it is a game and you want a company to spend their time and their resources for a problem that you have and can solve on your own in a matter of seconds.

I might dance in a fountain in my underwear if I knew it was the end of the world and I wasn't going to be alive the next day...

ackir

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 08:19 - 57

I would only agree to the option of only viewing people with clothes on if, conversely, there was also an option to only view people with their clothes off.

It's a matter of personal responsibility. Area.net isn't responsible for what people do with the game they have made unless there is some coding error and they are following the ESRB rating conditions. If revealing/suggestive dancing is a deal-breaker for you then I suggest you find another game to play as it isn't very likely that the censoring option you want will make it into the game.

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

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Minnesota

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30 Mar 2005 at 09:17 - 58

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

Don't trash people's moral standards.

Was there a moral question being discussed in this thread? Besides when people brought up killing? There's a good moral question: when is it okay to kill? Never? Only in self-defense? Or in war? Or criminals if they're bad enough? THAT is a genuine moral question.

Questions about how you dress are questions of style, and opinions of how someone else is dressed are matters of taste. It kind of belittles genuine moral questions and ethics as a whole when you start classifying things like that as "moral questions". Pretty soon, people start ignoring moral questions because what everyone is telling them are moral questions are petty.

When you throw questions like that into the box called "moral questions", sure, you have more standards, but you don't really have higher standards just because you have more of them. Indeed, from the perspective of someone who tries to stay focused on the important issues, your moral standards appear diluted with trivial things.

Where do you draw the line, then? There's no clear answer to that. But count me among those who say if you think running around in your underwear is a moral question, you've drawn the line far outside of anything reasonable. If you don't like it, I can understand that -- your tastes differ from others. But don't belittle ethics by treating something like that as if it was a moral question. That doesn't strengthen you ethically, in fact I'd have to say just the opposite in my opinion.

thegriffgeeks

Frost Gate Guardian

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R/Mo

30 Mar 2005 at 12:05 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trexton

Griffgeek my point is not about morals. But I do truly believe that guildwars was rated "T" for the violence and suggestive (Fantasy) material and not for the so called "Nudity". If people were dancing in their panties in fountains IRL- then I would totally agree. It's the fact that it is a game and you want a company to spend their time and their resources for a problem that you have and can solve on your own in a matter of seconds.

one more time I agree with the original point of the post. Which I believe was about there should be a way to filter the suggestive visual stuff..that way you can have all the character preferences and personal expression you want and I don't have to be subjected to them if I don't want. It's already done in chat, and they are already limiting the visual effects on the gore. So put in a visual filter. There is no cause for us to have to leave the district if we don't want to see it...I guarantee you it will be in all districts. I should not have to change the way I'm playing the game so others can do whatever they want. Maybe they can make a district just for all the skivie break dancers.

And stop calling it my problem. It's not a problem, problem suggests that there is something wrong with me. Just because in your opinion there is something wrong with me doesn't make it fact. It is a preference, just like yours.

Jeanette

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Masssachusetts

30 Mar 2005 at 12:15 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

If typed content has a filter so should visual content. If I don't want to see it, a filter should be available and leaving shouldn't be my only choice. If I don't want to hear it, I set a filter.....not leave. BTW the last time I check this game isn't about dancing in your undies it's about questing and fighting "bad guys." I don't care if anyone dances in GW butt naked...I don't want to watch it! I don't care if anyone wants to swear in GW, but I don't want to hear it. That is the general point here.

Wrong. The games rating was based on the content provided at the completion development stages of the games formal design, the game was based around violence, minimal language, etc etc. The game was looked upon with the characters in their underwear (safe asssumtion) and was acceptable to the raters of ESRB. The game was rated T with people in their underwear, the game is not crude in any way. There was not a requirement to force a filter upon the game to make characters keep their clothes on, and thus, is not going to made at all. If you want to sensor this game because of characters using free will to do as they wish (hence part of the term RPG), then you must also sensor every other T rated game (Even some E games have characters in their underwear) on console and pc. Because this is definatly not the only game that shows characters in their underwear and have not made patches for them to keep their clothes on.

::Edit:: I didn't include that whole quote because it was to long, and I don't want this to come off as sounding offensive, it's just the way things are, to be honest I could care less if they made a filter cuz I don't dance in my underwear.

spiritofcat

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

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E/Mo

30 Mar 2005 at 12:18 - 61

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

And stop calling it my problem. It's not a problem, problem suggests that there is something wrong with me. Just because in your opinion there is something wrong with me doesn't make it fact. It is a preference, just like yours.

It is your problem because you have a problem with the other people's behaviour, or your lack of options to hide it from your precious eyes.
If it wasn't a problem you wouldn't be posting about it now would you?

EDIT:
Just to clarify, I don't have a problem with you wanting an option to censor your own experience of the game, as long as it doesn't have a negative impact on my enjoyment of the game, such as delaying release date, or being an enforced censorship.

thegriffgeeks

Frost Gate Guardian

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30 Mar 2005 at 12:24 - 62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeanette

::Edit:: and I don't want this to come off as sounding offensive, it's just the way things are, to be honest I could care less if they made a filter cuz I don't dance in my underwear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiritofcat

EDIT: Just to clarify, I don't have a problem with you wanting an option to censor your own experience of the game, as long as it doesn't have a negative impact on my enjoyment of the game, such as delaying release date, or being an enforced censorship.

On these 2 points I agree with you both. Lets stay there.

Mss Drizzt

Lion's Arch Merchant

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communist state of NJ

30 Mar 2005 at 15:44 - 63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mss Drizzt

Ladies and Gentlemen the round is about to start. Please take your seats we will be getting started here shortly.

Ding Ding

Both sides come out swinging and we have a double K.O..

Round 2 ends in a DRAW.

Stick Out Tongue

Chadatog

Academy Page

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30 Mar 2005 at 16:27 - 64

Draw??

Personally I think Dreamsmith hit a home run with his post.

No filters : 1
Filters: 0

thegriffgeeks

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30 Mar 2005 at 16:53 - 65

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadatog

Draw??

Personally I think Dreamsmith hit a home run with his post.

No filters : 1
Filters: 0

Ah now this is where the maturity level thing kicks in. "Let sleeping dogs lie." Only you and Dreamsmith think he hit a home run. I did the MATURE thing and didn't respond to Dreamsmith's flame.

Now start doing the mature thing and back off.

Mss Drizzt

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30 Mar 2005 at 17:00 - 66

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mss Drizzt

Round 2 ends in a DRAW.

Stick Out Tongue

Round 3???????? I sure hope not. It is just a game. Guys please.....It is a beautiful day out go outside and Play.

Stick Out Tongue

thegriffgeeks

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30 Mar 2005 at 17:03 - 67

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mss Drizzt

Round 3???????? I sure hope not. It is just a game. Guys please.....It is a beautiful day out go outside and Play.

Stick Out Tongue

I absolutely, whole heartedly agree!

Ren Falconhand

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

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The Harpers

R/Mo

30 Mar 2005 at 17:10 - 68

there is a new poll for this. Lets all just vote and try to keep the personal commits to a minimum. Thanks

Ren

Montecello

Pre-Searing Cadet

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30 Mar 2005 at 17:23 - 69

Hey guys I don't have a jealous wife but I do have a jealous girlfriend! She saw some of the people dancing and asked me what porno game I was playing. I just don't look at it, but my GF thinks that I should stop playing GW. I don't ask for any censorship or anything like that, but rather change the dances. If you want to run around in your underware that is cool but why not change the dances so it does not look like sexual behavior. That is all my GF really cares about and it seems that is the major concern that I have read about in this post. I just don't want to have a release date change or hinder someone else's game play. My two cents.

thegriffgeeks

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30 Mar 2005 at 17:34 - 70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montecello

Hey guys I don't have a jealous wife but I do have a jealous girlfriend!

Thanks for chiming in however the flame throwers will now decend upon you

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montecello

...snip.... cause of what I believe in and the fact that we are waiting till we get married till we......well you know.

I applaud you both for this.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 18:04 - 71

actually i do have one more point to add to this before leaving it

obviously a few of you have serious reservations and problems with this aspect of the game

many points have been made of it being completely inappropriate for your children to view and your spouces are offended as yourselves

the ratings guide is made for PARENTS to be guided as to what to buy for their children to play with

to bring something into your house that you consider offensive and expose your children (and spouces) to it is something to consider thoughtfully

that is very similar in a way to buying a playboy magazine for an article(jimmy carter interview for example) and demanding the pictures be censored because you have high morals and disapprove

you have a responsibility to your morals not to bring it into the house instead of saying change it because it offends your standards

Kirbie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

30 Mar 2005 at 19:13 - 72

im not sure if this is possible, but having naked option on or off would be nice...like gory mode on or off in first person shooter games.

if you put naked option off, then you see all people dressed with armour...although they are really naked. only people who put option on would be able to view.
for example...2 people are viewing one naked dancer. one person toggled the option off, and other on. the person who toggled it off would see naked dancer dressed with armour. but the person who toggled it on would see naked dancer...as is.

for suggestive dance...like warriors, having parameter would be nice...like no one would be able to do any emotes too close to dancing warrior. so if you wanna do emotes around dancing warrior, you have to do it few steps away from the warrior.

just to make everyone happy

some people may not feel comfortable viewing it...but im sure there are people who have no problems with it too

Ren Falconhand

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The Harpers

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30 Mar 2005 at 19:24 - 73

I don't think an option like that will make the release (it is less that a month away YEA!!!

) But maby it could be a patch or something like that if A-net does not do patches. Anyway I do not want them to delay the relase. It would not be fair to the other players out there you do not have any problems with it. Any way all the naked dancing is mainly just a BWE thing. It will most likely slow down once the game launches.

Ren

jdwoody

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30 Mar 2005 at 19:28 - 74

Quote:

Only you and Dreamsmith think he hit a home run. I did the MATURE thing and didn't respond to Dreamsmith's flame.

Actually I thought Dreamsmith's post was interesting and hardly a flame. Just because someone has a different opinion than you it doesn't mean they are flaming you.

Kirbie

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30 Mar 2005 at 19:28 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ren Falconhand

I don't think an option like that will make the release (it is less that a month away YEA!!!

) But maby it could be a patch or something like that if A-net does not do patches. Anyway I do not want them to delay the relase. It would not be fair to the other players out there you do not have any problems with it. Any way all the naked dancing is mainly just a BWE thing. It will most likely slow down once the game launches.

Ren

yeah...i can handle viewing those..even though i may not be too comfortable.
"but" i can not handle delayed release date lol

Dave III

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Join Date: Mar 2005

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30 Mar 2005 at 20:10 - 76

I think letting this subject- or at least this thread, and the bad feelings in it- drop is a very good idea. I think we all know we're not going to change the other's opinions, especially with flaming (which is where this is headed), so if we back off and let it settle, we may be able to address it more rationally later.

We all know that's way too late for major code changes (which the filters, as I have them in my head, would involve), and so this discussion is moot on a practical level, at least for now. In the future we might be able to work something out between us to everyone's satisfaction, but as things stand we risk tearing this community apart. Nobody wants that.

Let's just let it go, the other thread included, and work on other things for a while, yeah? ^_^

*ahem* That Gwen sure is a scary little girl, huh? ^_^

Dave III

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R/Mo

30 Mar 2005 at 20:30 - 77

I think everybody should give each other a hug. Come on...who's with me?

Come on... GROUP HUG!!!

Chaser

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30 Mar 2005 at 20:32 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kha

If you can't beat them, then join them

AMEN TO THAT!!!!

Darkmane

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30 Mar 2005 at 20:40 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striker Shardale

I think everybody should give each other a hug. Come on...who's with me?

Come on... GROUP HUG!!!

I WANNA BE IN THE MIDDLE!!!

Ren Falconhand

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The Harpers

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30 Mar 2005 at 20:43 - 80

O.K. everybody sing along

It's the post that never ends.
somebody started it nobody know why
but it will go on forever just because
It's the post that never ends.

...<Repeat untill clubed in the Head>...

LOL

Ren