Beat The Mirror

Sedia Vindivoh

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Does anyone have any idea how to beat the mirror of yourself as a Monk/Warrior? I have been trying a variety of ways for hours and I simply cannot find a way! It seems impossible! Others, feel free to ask about beating your mirrors in this thread as well.

adamdekundy

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

put useless skills in ur skill bar except for 1 and then kill him with that 1 skill.

LadyCallipyge

LadyCallipyge

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

And put your killing skill on the extreme right of your bar.

Keira Darkwind

Keira Darkwind

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Clan Arthur

Mo/Me

I'm Monk/Necro, but I beat my mirror tonight by having only one skill on my bar - Healing Breeze. Then I just hit that whenever it ran out and spent the rest of the time whacking her with my wand. It was close, but I won

Ironsword

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Newport News Va

Unknown Warriors of Ascalon

W/R

i had a full bar of skills when i finally beat mine but i left any healing skills out and spammed the skills i had and beat him in about 30 seconds

TheIrishman

TheIrishman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Currently: NJ

Wanderers of YS

N/W

I'm a Sword/Blood Magic N/W.

I'm Screwed, aren't I?

Aetherfukz

Aetherfukz

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

My own private hell

none

E/Mo

How I beat the mirror finally with my E/Mo was taking only Healing Breeze and Pacifism with me. He wouldn't use healing breeze one him, and wouldn't use pacifism either because that would mean he would have to stop attacking me.

So I just casted healing breeze all the time while attacking him with my normal wand, which did much less damage than his bow. So when he had more health then I, I would just cast pacifism on him, wait for my healing breeze to get me more health than him, and attack him again.

After a long fight of nutrition he was eventually beaten...

eA-Zaku

eA-Zaku

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Wow, Pacifism + Healing Breeze! That's the best strategy I've heard so far

I still wonder why the Mirror won't use Healing Breeze...for all those people complaining about the Mirror, I think ANet left monks a little gift.

Tellani Artini

Tellani Artini

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

America

The Kansas City Hotsteppers [KCHS]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIrishman
I'm a Sword/Blood Magic N/W.

I'm Screwed, aren't I? 1. Bring only sword skills

2. Enter the fight with an axe/hammer/bow/wand

3. Switch back to sword

4. Win

Vladamir the Vile

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I'm a Warrior necro.. I loaded up ONLY sword skills. sever artery and gash, and some others.. equiped a hammer..
killed him in about 15 seconds.

first few times i tried a few different things, but damn.. after changing my skill bar.. holy crap it was easy.

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

I'm a Ranger/Elementalist... I'm dead aint I...?

Genos

Genos

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Amazon Basin

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar
I'm a Ranger/Elementalist... I'm dead aint I...? Hardly - I run a Ranger/Ele my self. took me two tries to beat him. heres the quick and dirty way to win...


Equip Favourable winds in your first slot. then equip every single ranger shot you have.. fill up the bar if at all possible. when you start the fight the image will imdeditaly start casting Favourable winds - while he does that run into CC. then just use all your ranger shots.. keep shotign them. the image will pull out an axe.. and well, cant shot arrows with an axe can we?

very easy way to win..

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

Whats CC?

d4nowar

d4nowar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/

close combat i'm guessing. but the better way to do that fight is to get ALL of the nature rituals. and he will waste the entire fight casting them and you'll just sit back and get the same bonuses as he does, while pummeling him with arrows. or...... throw dirt for the win!

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

OK. No one's screwed. Each Primary/Secondary takes a slightly different strategy. And a lot of frustrated persistence.

Your mirror comes in with exactly the same skills as you, and level 20 competency. So you're equally matched. Er, except for that Uberarmor and Uberweapon he/she has. I've heard that the Mirror also comes in with each attribute set at 15.

The first issue is not what to bring, but what not to bring. Don't equip anything that the computer can use more efficiently than a human. Namely knockdowns, anything that heals, or a complex set of combat spells. If you end up with six satisfactory items in your skillbar, then only go in with six.

Do bring skills for the mirror to use which will drain their energy, sacrifice their health (Necros, you should have lots of these), cause exhaustion... but aren't too scary prospects when they're used on you. Skills that are designed to restrict your movement are good -- you're fighting in a small space; hopefully, you shouldn't be doing too much running. Elementalists, by all means bring those big-energy area of effect spells -- but remember to move out of the AoE as soon as they drop. You'll see at the top of the screen when they're casting. Also bring big-energy enchantments for the mirror to waste time casting on him/herself. Any of these enchantments you need too, cast them on yourself just before stepping on the last stone to begin the challenge, for a couple-second head start.

You want the mirror to waste time, energy and health, so you can spam him/her mercilessly with that cheap little 5-energy skill (or, if you're lucky enough to have one, a Uberweapon of your own -- hammers tend to do the most damage, Warriors, and the mirror usually shows up with an axe or a bow). The exact combination to do this will always be a little different per your available skillset.

I've beaten this three times, and each time I was convinced I was lost, until I realized my mirror had just ran out of energy. So hang in there and be relentless.

Aether: "a long fight of nutrition" ?

Thanato

Thanato

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Quebec, Canada

Followers of the Faith

R/Me

as a ranger/mesmer, this is what i did

1)load up on natural rituals
2)bring apply poison, distracting shot, troll unguent, and 1 or 2 bow skills
3)cast apply poison just before cutscene, then skip it
4)start wailing on him

by the time he was done with the rituals i had him down to about 1/2 health, and poison eating him down. just have to interrupt troll unguent when he tried to cast it and its a pretty much done deal

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

I found out what to do, my friend told me

Okay first you need to get a weapon that has a higher max damage than the one you have and put it in a slot, BUT make sure that you dont meet the requirement for that weapon, then the cpu automatically thinks that because the higher max damage weapon does more damage than it equips it! So you have a weapon that has a lower max damage than the other so the mirror equips the higher max damage weapon and only does 4-6 damage because he/she doesnt reach the requirement, meanwhile you're doing about 15-?? damage so you get an easy win... especially if you have no skills equiped he'll just hack away at 5 damage meanwhile you're doing 15 so you'll kill the mirror by the time you have 2/3s health!

PM me if you need some clarification

XenophonTheElder

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Mo/N

I managed to ascenend with a Monk/Necro last night. The skills in the skill bar were Healing Breeze, Retribution, Protective Spirit, and Pacifism. I did not use the Pacifism. The rest were "useless" skills like resurrection. One critical item (from several failures) is to NOT equip Orison of Healing. Add it to the above and it turns into a stalemate.

Basic startegy is -- stay outside of axe range, keep healing breeze up, let retribution do damage back, and add some additional damage with a good staff.

Xenophon the Elder (aka Monkie Monkie)

Creston

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar
I found out what to do, my friend told me

Okay first you need to get a weapon that has a higher max damage than the one you have and put it in a slot, BUT make sure that you dont meet the requirement for that weapon, then the cpu automatically thinks that because the higher max damage weapon does more damage than it equips it! So you have a weapon that has a lower max damage than the other so the mirror equips the higher max damage weapon and only does 4-6 damage because he/she doesnt reach the requirement, meanwhile you're doing about 15-?? damage so you get an easy win... especially if you have no skills equiped he'll just hack away at 5 damage meanwhile you're doing 15 so you'll kill the mirror by the time you have 2/3s health!

PM me if you need some clarification That seems odd, since the mirror image gets all attributes at 15, so he would meet the requirements quite easily?

Creston

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

I beat my mirrior with full smite build!!! That's right~! SMITE!

Retribution + Holy Wrath + Smite + Holy Srike + Bane Signet

Basicly, this build just punish those that attacks, you can just sit there and let the comp attack and punish him for doing it, since you're not attacking, you won't take damage from the mirror's enchantments. I beat the mirrior within 30 seconds and left with only 4 hp left

fleeb

fleeb

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Maryland, United States

Carefree Drunks

Mo/E

Mine took too long, but it worked on my first attempt.

I chose four enchantments that required maintenance (I don't recall which ones, but I choose only those that would not give HP.. although one did increase the max HP).

I then chose pacify, orison, and smite hex, and healing touch.

He set up the enchantments right off... or so I thought. He apparently only set up two of them... I wanted him to get all four, so he wouldn't regenerate mana. After a while of hitting him, he'd heal himself... but I figured out after a while that he was still generating mana somehow.

I had hoped he'd try to use Pacify on me, but he didn't.

When I got close to him, though, he kicked in another enchantment, and switched to an ax... at this point, things started to work. I noticed his health started declining, and he started having a harder time regenerating enough to cast healing spells on himself before I could whittle away at his health. If only he had kicked in that last enchantment...

I think, had I gotten closer to him immediately, the challange would have ended much sooner.

It might be fun to try again.

Shandoo Bilari

Shandoo Bilari

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

NoVa

Dark Brotherhood

Mo/

If you want to beat it fast (as a monk /whatever) and get the bonus with no hassle:

Slot 1 - Healing Breeze
Slot 2 - Retribution
Slot 3-8 - Nothing

Jack up smiting and healing, mirror will be dead in under 45 sec, you wont even need your wand.

Swarnt Brightstar

Swarnt Brightstar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Mongolia!... But sadly Florida

Rulers of Mythology <ROM>

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swarnt Brightstar
I found out what to do, my friend told me

Okay first you need to get a weapon that has a higher max damage than the one you have and put it in a slot, BUT make sure that you dont meet the requirement for that weapon, then the cpu automatically thinks that because the higher max damage weapon does more damage than it equips it! So you have a weapon that has a lower max damage than the other so the mirror equips the higher max damage weapon and only does 4-6 damage because he/she doesnt reach the requirement, meanwhile you're doing about 15-?? damage so you get an easy win... especially if you have no skills equiped he'll just hack away at 5 damage meanwhile you're doing 15 so you'll kill the mirror by the time you have 2/3s health!

PM me if you need some clarification Wait nope sorry didnt work just got inspiration though

okay here we go, this is now what I did as a ranger! you dont even have to be primary just secondary no specifics


I equipped 4 of those world affect mobobbers and then I had one skill as resurrect signet, another as apply poison, and power shot, finally troll ungent.

it took him 20 secs to cast all the world affects so by that time he's dead with a max damage poison elongating bow...

bioxeed

bioxeed

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Circle of Nine

N/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIrishman
I'm a Sword/Blood Magic N/W.

I'm Screwed, aren't I? as your "useless" skills pick the ones that sacrifice blood (dont use them yourself) blood of the master etc - the mirror will attempt to use these and nuke his own hp for you

Zoolooman

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Ectos And Shards

Quote:
Originally Posted by Keira Darkwind
I'm Monk/Necro, but I beat my mirror tonight by having only one skill on my bar - Healing Breeze. Then I just hit that whenever it ran out and spent the rest of the time whacking her with my wand. It was close, but I won How did you beat the insane damage this sucker deals? It's something like 80 damage a shot for me. :/

theclam

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

I took one useless enchantment, Divine Spirit, and 6!! damage dealing Smite spells. I died in under 10 seconds, but Balthazar's Aura and Symbol of Wrath killed him a second after I died and I won. It is most definitely not something that I'd try if I were you, unless you really can't win using another strategy.

cannonfodder

cannonfodder

Tech Monkeh Mod

Join Date: May 2005

Good Old North East of England

Mo/Me

I'm a warrior/necro, I only had healing signet, and frenzy, I use a hammer so went frenzy on him a few times and found that if you hit when the mirror is healing you'll do more damage

It took me about 5 attempts

jtm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Sometimes when I'm bored I kill my mirror for fun. I just remember how it was the easiest thing I ever had done in the game for 2000 exp. As an elementalist maybe I am just lucky. I notice he casts Meteor shower, i just move away from it, do my meteor shower, and then, walk up to him and do phoenix. Soo easy, can be done in less than 20-30 seconds. I actually love to run around him, he pulls out his chaos axe, oh how he wishes he wins. Sometimes I let myself almost die, then I kill him quickly. I have died having fun, but maybe i was just having a little too much fun ^^

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

im a monk mesmer whil this build work
1 healing breeze
2 zealots fire
3-8 nothing
i whant to knw ty
because i think it whill work as mentioned before the mirror whont use healing breeze but if you cast zealots fire and you cast healing breeze after it it whil hit the mirror hard am i correct?

CleverAlias

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I was an Ele with my normal skills, and I just nuked it faster than it nuked me.

Mango Midget

Mango Midget

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Under a hippo.

TC

Me/W

I am a Mes/Wa Illusion and sword.Should I switch to Dominiation and Bring Empathy Backfire and Wastrells Worries or if not wat???

Crystal NightingGale

Crystal NightingGale

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Me/E

I am Me/E and I finished my mirror in first try in 7sec. I had all of my skills equipped but I only used 3 spells. First I casted conjure phantasm, then firestorm, and finally repeatedly casting flare. Good thing my mirror was casting firestorm at the beginning, gave me the advantage of time. Funny thing happened when my mirror casted immolate just before it died. During the cutscene, my character was on fire.

havarlan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

m/w fight is really easy. I brought Mend Ailment, Divine boon(the enchant that adds healing to any monk skill, basically), Blessed Signet, and a bunch of things that targeted other allies only. lots of res. AI isn't smart enough to use mend ailment as a healing spell. Though if you have enough refund points, switching helaing prayers for smite and taking holy wrath and retribution wouldn't be bad, either.

MaglorD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

LOL I've never had any problem with my mirror. I have so far defeated my mirror as a Warrior, Ranger and just yesterday Monk. They always die on first try within 50s(bonus time) and I have lots of life to spare.

I admit as a Monk, I had to take out all my healing spells except for Healing Breeze. I left Heal Other and Word of Healing since these two cannot be used by the mirror anyway. The rest were smiting spells/signet.

Originally I had planned to capture Scourge Healing to use against him but after 3 tries at Divinity Coast, the stupid monk boss refused to spawn so I gave up on getting this skill.

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

At the time I first ascended (my Mo/R was the first), I wasn't aware that the mirror didn't use Healing Breeze efficiently. I figured, however, that my mirror would probably only attempt to heal with actual heal spells, rather than use some other spell to get the Divine Favor healing, and further, that my mirror would never recast an enchantment that was still active. Therefore, I went in with Retribution and Divine Boon. The mirror cast each maintainable enchantment once and never again. I would recast Divine Boon whenever I wanted some healing. So I could heal and my mirror never would. Easy victory.

My second character to ascend was my R/E. That was too easy. I just went in with a lot of bow attacks and Troll Unguent. I exploited the fact that my mirror would use weapons I never would -- I closed to melee range and the mirror pulled out an axe. From that point forward, I just hit him with my bow attacks and used Distracting Shot whenever he went for the troll juice. Because he was using an axe, he never used Distracting Shot on me. Easy victory.

My third character to ascend was my E/W. I once again played on the fact that my mirror didn't use the same weapons I did. I brought a couple of stances that had an 75% chance to deflect arrows, but had no effect on magical projectiles from staves. I used Conjure Flame and a fire staff, hitting him 100% of the time, while he used a bow that missed me 75% of the time. Quick and easy victory.

My last character to ascend was my W/Mo. I didn't use any clever strategy for that one, I just went in with my normal skill set and killed the mirror. Surprised me, really. I had just gone in to see how my mirror would act in order to formulate a clever strategy to counter it, and ended up winning without doing anything special at all. I did have Healing Breeze with me, so perhaps that's what tipped the balance to me.

MaglorD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsmith

My last character to ascend was my W/Mo. I didn't use any clever strategy for that one, I just went in with my normal skill set and killed the mirror. Surprised me, really. I had just gone in to see how my mirror would act in order to formulate a clever strategy to counter it, and ended up winning without doing anything special at all. I did have Healing Breeze with me, so perhaps that's what tipped the balance to me. No PVP character?

josh_malpas

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

I have just completed the mission and after 3 attempts was getting a little down, someone had told me in no uncertain terms not to bring in flare and any other hefty spells just to use normal damage... but after reading previous threads I decided to give this a go....

I took in mesmer skills like shatter enchantment/hex/illusion etc. and then took fire attunement with me.... the last skill i had (to the far right of the bar although this seemed to not affect in any way the preference of the AI as to which skill he wanted to use!!!) and went in with fire attunement cast just before I stepped on the last stone...

Well, he hit me with flare... twice... which hurt, but then started to shatter all the enchantments and hexes that i wasn't casting as i went at him with my flare... 16 seconds later it was all over... me with 3hp and him with zip.. a little bit of excitement but insanely easy in the end...

Hope this helps others out there

Ciao

JYX

JYX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mango Midget
I am a Mes/Wa Illusion and sword.Should I switch to Dominiation and Bring Empathy Backfire and Wastrells Worries or if not wat??? Do exactly that. The bot loves to spam wastrel's worry. Stick a backfire on him and he'll practically kill himself. Whenever he does wastrel's worry on you just wastrel's worry him to cancel it out. Insanely easy.

Also bring a load of crap preps like illusion of haste and illusion of weakness, the bot will cast them at the start, should give you some sort of an edge.

Miridan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Purgatory Syndicate

E/Me

Jesus - ppl actually had a hard time killing thier mirror?

I just ran in and killed him - 1st try with normal skills. It must be because my build uses skill combos to win, and the mirror isn't smart enough to use 'em .

Sniper22

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIrishman
I'm a Sword/Blood Magic N/W.

I'm Screwed, aren't I? No... I did it as N/W
All I put in was Blood Ritual for the NPC to use
And I used Bonnetis Defense and Vampiric Touch, I didn't have any phyical attack so Bonnetis Defense only worked for me