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Nomad Ninja

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazonian Triad [TaT]

R/Me

30 Jun 2005 at 19:17 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Making them toggleable would be a good step in the right direction.

Forcing anyone in a guild to wear them is simply like forcing everyone in the game to wear a silly hat or something.

Some think it looks cool, for example on Male Warriors it they do. For others (Like many in this thread) it looks daft... and not everyone should be forced to wear one while being in a guild with good friends.

Yes yes. We should all be forced to wear silly hats in the game. No wait everyone should always wear a silly hat. Yes. The silly party is comming to power and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

vote silly party 2008

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

01 Jul 2005 at 06:03 - 42

/bump

Really! Toggleable for the win! Don't let this thread die out yet... and I really hope A.net add this in so me and so many others can finally join a guild!

TheCrusader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Kent,Washington

Dei Victorae [dV]

R/

01 Jul 2005 at 06:17 - 43

/sign

Anarkii

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

-None-

R/Me

01 Jul 2005 at 06:51 - 44

Oh Yes! another /sign too

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

01 Jul 2005 at 07:48 - 45

Quote:

Originally Posted by nechronius

Rather than toggling capes on or off, I have a better suggestion:

Toggle the cape on or off just for YOURSELF.

Your guild doesn't need to know you turned off the cape for youself. This is a way to identify OTHERS, not specifically to identify yourself.

So what if others see the cape. It wont' raise static with your guild mates since you won't be going around capeless, what some people might consider an affront to the group.

Perception is the key here. If you perceive yourself as walking around without a cape, then you're happy because you look the way they do, and your guild is happy since you still have the cape on in their eyes, which is pleasing for guild unity. No harm, no foul, nobody gets hurt.

That would make it utterly pointless.

By that logic we should all only have armor look different for ourselves and not to anyone else. Whats the point of changing your appearance if only you can see it? You might as well have no fashion sense in real life and just imagine yourself wearing the stuff you'd realy like. It's all perception right?

If only I would see myself without it would make me hate it even more because people don't see me how I want to be seen, which is the whole goddamn point. Any attempt to stand out would be moot. The perception argument falls flat on its face when you take into account that this is how you want to be seen by your friends and the public.

If your guild is angsty enough to throw a hissy-fit because you don't want to wear the cape then you probably shouldn't be there.

anti_z3r0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Black Rose Assassins [BRA]

W/

01 Jul 2005 at 10:21 - 46

another /sign and another /bump

ANET Please let us know that you've seen this thread! I e-mailed their support team telling them that there's a bunch of these threads that discuss this idea and gave a bunch of links, and they sent me some automated e-mail reply saying that I should post my suggestions on a fansite forum.

Stupid automated e-mail. I am beginning to seriously doubt the claim that ANEt reads all of the posts in all of the fansite forums.

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

01 Jul 2005 at 10:37 - 47

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti_z3r0

another /sign and another /bump

ANET Please let us know that you've seen this thread! I e-mailed their support team telling them that there's a bunch of these threads that discuss this idea and gave a bunch of links, and they sent me some automated e-mail reply saying that I should post my suggestions on a fansite forum.

Stupid automated e-mail. I am beginning to seriously doubt the claim that ANEt reads all of the posts in all of the fansite forums.

Most e-mail servers give auto-responce... give it time and you should get a human reply... give it 24 hours... failing that e-mail them again.

anti_z3r0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Black Rose Assassins [BRA]

W/

01 Jul 2005 at 19:15 - 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Most e-mail servers give auto-responce... give it time and you should get a human reply... give it 24 hours... failing that e-mail them again.

Yeah, I did get the automated e-mail first, and then I got the "real" one.

Quote:

Response (GM Vivian) 06/29/2005 05:41 PM
Hello Steve,

Thank you for contacting Guild Wars Support about this.

We encourage you to consider posting your suggestions on one of many of the Guild Wars Fansite message boards. A compiled list can be found on the official Guild Wars website at http://guildwars.com/community/default.html. By posting on one of these message boards, other players can comment on your ideas, concerns, and suggestions, and Development Team members are able to catch up on what the community wants to see in Guild Wars. Fansite forums make it easy and efficient for us to learn from those playing the game.

Thank you for your efforts in assisting us to create the best gaming experience possible.

Regards,

The Guild Wars Support Team

So yeah....such a helpful answer.

nechronius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Southern Cali

Herald of the Storm

W/R

01 Jul 2005 at 20:11 - 49

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy diamond

If your guild is angsty enough to throw a hissy-fit because you don't want to wear the cape then you probably shouldn't be there.

Go sit in the corner. You get detention for being rude. If you're so angsty to throw a hissy-fit because you are forced to wear a cape, leave your guild.

Talesin Darkbriar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

California - irrigated desert...

The Myrmidon

E/N

01 Jul 2005 at 21:47 - 50

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti_z3r0

Great thread of something-that-really-needs-to-be-done-ness....I RESSURECT THEE!!!!!!

COME FORTH AND DELIVER THINESELF TO THE DEVS!

I BESEECH YOU!

/signed 100000 times.

/signature 100001

hidden_agenda

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

01 Jul 2005 at 22:21 - 51

/sign

I had mentioned this in other forums as well -- I agree 100% "The cape really should be toggleable!!"

Furthermore, I will be honest and admit that YES, I am vain enough that I LEFT MY GUILD SO THAT I CAN LOOK AT THE BACK OF MY CHARACTERS! (having paid lots of gp for the armor, I figure I should see the WHOLE thing, rather than just the front).

Just a couple of points on why capes should be toggleable:

1) Fostering Guilds
A.net has consistently tried to foster cooperative play and the formation of guilds -- which I do like. However, certainly in my case, the fact that the cape is non-toggleable has a negative impact on my belonging to a guild.

2) Aesthetics
Think about it -- A.net put some effort into the design of the character AND the capes, including the animations, colors of the armor, etc. Why make it so that the players must only be able to see SOME OF IT?

3) Feasibility
I am a veteran software developer with 10+ years of experience, so I like to think that I do know about writing softwares...

I really do think that this is a straight-forward change. After all, the cape is taken away as soon as you leave a guild. So it really must simply be a variable somewhere that simply check to see if you are in a guild and then display the cape. The bigger change in the code would probably be an extra command (/togglecloak) that would need to set the above variable.

However, given that the guild dialog box already sets some guild settings, it might be that a check box to indicate whether you want to display the cloak or not there is sufficient.

In any case, I agree that in GvG battles, this setting should be over-ridden. However, in all other cases, this setting should take effect.

For sure, this in NO WAY would compare in complexity to some of the other things like adjusting drop rates or PvP reward system that Anet has done. So in that sense, if only enough of us want it, it could be done.

In short, this is a low cost feature for Anet that will please a great number of people (as this thread demonstrates).

Anyways, just want to toss in my $.02

johnnylange

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

USA/Near Chicago

The Divine Darkness <TDDG>

W/Me

01 Jul 2005 at 22:24 - 52

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy diamond

I think this is a stupid argument because a lot of people like the capes. They just don't want them ALL THE TIME. A simple toggle would solve this.

Or do you seriously expect us to quit and rejoin everytime we want it on or off?

Also I'm not going to leave my awesome guild because my character looks goofy with their cape, no more than I'll join a guild just because it doesn't use capes. That's retarded.

LMAO! That such a contradicting comment...

johnnylange

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

USA/Near Chicago

The Divine Darkness <TDDG>

W/Me

01 Jul 2005 at 22:26 - 53

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti_z3r0

In order to get a guild hall they do.

Well guilds don't have to have a guild hall either...

Old Dood

Middle-Age-Man

Join Date: May 2005

Lansing, Mi

W/Mo

01 Jul 2005 at 22:32 - 54

I get people tell us all the time that our capes look pretty darn spiffy. (Well they do not use those terms

) We have a black cape with a silver cross in the middle. Looks really sharp with my silver dyed armor.

johnnylange

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

USA/Near Chicago

The Divine Darkness <TDDG>

W/Me

01 Jul 2005 at 22:41 - 55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Warrior Dood

I get people tell us all the time that our capes look pretty darn spiffy. (Well they do not use those terms

)...

Same here for the most part! Here's the bottom line for all you contradicting complainers. If you want to be in a guild then you're going to have accept that a guild membership isn't some part-time job. If you don't like the cape speak up or ship out!

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

01 Jul 2005 at 23:06 - 56

I don't think I even noticed it Dood while we where trying the ice caves. What did it look like?

<- Jirn Drake from the PUG

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

02 Jul 2005 at 00:34 - 57

Just toggle capes on and off.
It would'nt take more than a couple days to implement.

Sir Maddox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Me/E

02 Jul 2005 at 00:48 - 58

I was under the impression this was for individual toggleability all along...

/signed.

anti_z3r0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Black Rose Assassins [BRA]

W/

02 Jul 2005 at 02:16 - 59

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnylange

Well guilds don't have to have a guild hall either...

Nor do Ice Cream Shoppes have to have ice cream. It just makes sense for an ice cream shoppe to have ice cream.

In a similar sense, it makes sense for a guild to have a guild hall

You, sir, use the

far too often. I hereby ban you from using it for a week.

johnnylange

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

USA/Near Chicago

The Divine Darkness <TDDG>

W/Me

02 Jul 2005 at 03:32 - 60

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti_z3r0

Nor do Ice Cream Shoppes have to have ice cream. It just makes sense for an ice cream shoppe to have ice cream.

In a similar sense, it makes sense for a guild to have a guild hall

You, sir, use the

far too often. I hereby ban you from using it for a week.

Agreed. But capes should remain as they are, and that's all i'm going to say on this matter. Have a nice day!

kuramaroze

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

02 Jul 2005 at 03:40 - 61

I have a good idea for the ranger druid coats. Put the guild emblem on the back of the coat! Who the hell would wear a coat AND cape anyways?

/agree x 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000

kaloo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Storm Striders[STRD]

N/W

02 Jul 2005 at 05:02 - 62

/Sign /Bump

I asked if there was a way, because my GM isn't getting capes because you can't take them off(I think they're spiffy)

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

02 Jul 2005 at 09:53 - 63

/sign

darn, forgot to do that when i asked about longer versions

yeah, admitidly, the capes are spiffy. in any game that is multiplayer, and capes arent in the code, and you can make a hakpak, they *always* end up being made by the players, like in neverwinter nights and morrowind

yes, we admit, its GUILD wards, but come on, were not saying that we want to get out of being in the guild, we just want to be able to turn off the cape for us. one persons PC screen. EVERYONE else in the game can see the damned cape! just US that cant.
is that such a big deal for some of you guild leaders to deal with? that a person in your guild dose'nt want to see the cape all the time themselves, even if the whole frikin server can see it 24/7?
sheesh....i have 2 players in my guild. me and my friend, and by the time i can afford the guild hall, i will not only be able to afford the cape, but there will have been changes to not only the cape, but to the guilds and even to the halls.
why not ask them to add reflectin mirrors to the halls so that you can run about in them and watch yourself and your capes reflected a hundred times in your halls room of mirrors? :P
(might be a good idea, even if it was just from the tacktical point of view...manny immages of a single guild person, but only one person to hit heheh)

vLo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Finland

Droknar's Sword

N/Me

02 Jul 2005 at 11:10 - 64

YES please. Toggleable guild capes is a must

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

02 Jul 2005 at 23:27 - 65

/bump...

I want it toggleable towards everyone... not just my screen... how I meant to show off my 15K armor to people with a damn cape in the way?

anti_z3r0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Black Rose Assassins [BRA]

W/

02 Jul 2005 at 23:58 - 66

/bump

/sign for the 100000000th time

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

03 Jul 2005 at 01:04 - 67

Firebat you've made me think of something. How about being able to toggle all capes as well, ie you can turn yours off for everyone and you could also turn off all capes for your moniter. I mean most forums will let people toggle seeing sigs and avatars, why can't GW?

Kali Ma

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/Mo

03 Jul 2005 at 01:10 - 68

/sign

The main reason I'm not in a guild at this time is because I can't stand wearing a cape all of the time, which is kind of silly. Yes, a toggleable switch for when outside of competitive PvP would be great.

arnansnow

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

DOOM

E/N

03 Jul 2005 at 01:13 - 69

/Sign

As a female elementalist- whenever I walk backwards my elbows clip through the cloak.

Also, why does the cape disappear under water?

Rig Jarlsson

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Teh Scadians

R/W

03 Jul 2005 at 01:22 - 70

Rig just looks silly with that cape sometimes...

/signs

anti_z3r0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Black Rose Assassins [BRA]

W/

03 Jul 2005 at 06:25 - 71

/rebump and sign

korytyler21

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Light and Darkness [LaD]

W/Mo

03 Jul 2005 at 07:00 - 72

i agree..... GW needs toggleable capes

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

03 Jul 2005 at 08:56 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterclaw

1. Capes should be able to be turned off or taken off by the player.
2. Guilds should have the option of going with no capes once they get one.
3. Every PC should also have an individual cape that he can choose to wear.

agreed 110%

/sign

00039

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me Want Snuu[Snuu]

D/W

03 Jul 2005 at 21:16 - 74

make those capes togglable *shakes fist*

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

03 Jul 2005 at 21:20 - 75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kali Ma

/sign

The main reason I'm not in a guild at this time is because I can't stand wearing a cape all of the time.

Funny, very same reason as me!

Iteicea Destroidium

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Washington

[Pink]

Rt/Mo

03 Jul 2005 at 21:20 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by 00039

make those capes togglable *shakes fist*

I must agree lol

/sign

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

04 Jul 2005 at 09:56 - 77

_bump_

any more signing?

psycore

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

04 Jul 2005 at 10:12 - 78

Aye!

/me signs.

Ashley Twig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

germany

Guild Of Openhearted Deeds

R/Mo

04 Jul 2005 at 11:35 - 79

First of all I agree that capes should be toggleable.
2nd I think that, since you can have a 2nd profession for additional skills, you should be able to be a member of a second guild. And if it's only to check it out.
Who knows if the old guild wants you back, once you left the "family"?

anti_z3r0

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2005

Black Rose Assassins [BRA]

W/

04 Jul 2005 at 17:35 - 80

/bump