Rune Seller Complaints Post!!

jomandoor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

i hate this patch i just gathered over 30 minors and 20 majors and noone will buy them for more than 50 a minor and 200 a major thanks to this patch !!! ITS CRAP!!!

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

+1 here there screwing the game and the trading..

they r "against farming" got 2 mules of runes :/

Crackerjak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Bah this is so dumb, I spent over 200k on buying 9 amazing superior runes, now I have around 50k... This rune addition just killed the market and many peoples desire to play, all that is left is pvp. There is hardly any point of trading anymore, especially since the only other thing to trade for is weapons, which can be bought from the bloody collectors! I am quickly losing interest in continuing guild wars without the fun of playing the market... good game ncsoft.

snepp

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/Mo

Screwing the game? Hardly. Taking back a little ground from farmers? Possibly.

Many people have been giving away minors for next-to-nothing anyway. The rune trader is a very positive addition, IMHO.

Adaria

Adaria

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

I think in the long run this will greatly improve things. I'm glad there are rune traders and OMG the Capture Signet update... *drool*

Kazahana

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

SoCal

W/E

ive been handing minors out to anyone who wants them for weeks i couldnt even get rid of the things and didnt wanna delete em cause i thought maybe someone might need it

MrWho

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

IF people buy the trader's runes the trader will buy for more. It automatically adjusts.

jomandoor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

i think there a very bad addition, i just dont feel the need to go out and fight now, because i know all im gunna get is 2xp and maybe 25gold....... its true all there is now is pvp...

there really never was a market for minor runes, its the majors that have been skrewed, there so cheap now...its not worth the effort trying to get them

Ordas

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackerjak
B I am quickly losing interest in continuing guild wars without the fun of playing the market... good game ncsoft.
If you're into trade and farming and such, you might want to look into games such as Eve Online or the Face of Mankind. They have a pretty deep trade system.

jomandoor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

im losing interest 2, not just because of the trading gone downhill, but because there isnt much left to do now.. other than pvp, and that is owend by clans and koreans...

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Wow. Just... wow.

As a buyer and not a seller, I have to say, YAY!

I'll shed a tiny tear for all the folks that can't farm, hoard, and gouge buyers any more...

There. I'm done with the tears.

Actually, I do truly feel sorry for them. It's a shame that they can't play the game to have fun, see new sights, enjoy the plot, and most importantly, enjoy the company of friends while smiting evil. Take out all the money and item acquisition in the game and know what I'd do instead? Exactly what I'm doing now; Have fun.

The new update rocks in all ways.

DSHammer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

Not even majors were worth dealing with, except for vigor/absorp.
I hated to stand around shouting until somebody noticed, then having to barter etc. It took much too long for a transaction to take place.
Same goes for forum posts, all the time spent organising and checking the posts, and then meeting ingame were simply not worth the measly 2K you often got at most- id much rather take the 200 with a minimum of delay.

Farming was much more rewarding with regards to money/time anyways, especially if you considered that you could get the really great, rare stuff that way.

However, I agree with the previous poster that it sucks having to compete with Koreans :P

Crackerjak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Do either of those games have decent pvp or trials? I may consider leaving gw with so little left to do.

ArturoB

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Please. This is a great addition. No longer can traders out spam and gouge players for rare runes. Not to mention that you can actually get minor runes now, which almost no one even bothered to sell due to their low return. I applaud GW for an addition that keeps with their no farming theme.

This brings the market in balance by providing an easy avenue from seller to buyer.

Quote:
I am quickly losing interest in continuing guild wars without the fun of playing the market
If you want that go play FFXI, where the economy is a disaster on pretty much every server.

jomandoor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

the plot, ive done that 4 times now... im not interested in that anymore, seeing new sites? ive been everywhere, the only thing left was getting rich....

this is the reason they dont make people pay monthly....no-one would...

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

How much do minors, majors, and superiors sell to the trader right now? I can't get on until later tonight, but I'm interested XD

Crackerjak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackerjak
So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.
You can only buy runes that you have unlocked. Unlocking runes still involves farming your butt off.

velvetbunny

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I just wanted to chime in with my support of this awesome addition! I had about 10 runes that noone ever wanted, even with my insanely cheap prices. I just pawned them off on the trader for about 6p total. Much more efficient then shouting for hours in LA's ;P.

Now... when we will see a Super Vigor rune on the trader...

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by velvetbunny
I just wanted to chime in with my support of this awesome addition! I had about 10 runes that noone ever wanted, even with my insanely cheap prices. I just pawned them off on the trader for about 6p total. Much more efficient then shouting for hours in LA's ;P.

Now... when we will see a Super Vigor rune on the trader...
Well, if you've unlocked the Superior Vigor, the trader will sell it XD

squakMix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackerjak
So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.
There's no reason to farm runes anyway - for gold? Why? You already have the best stuff.

Elythor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

Elysium Protectorate [EP]

The rune farming situation won't really change, because people will keep farming to unlock runes. (I continue to do that)

And that just means the market of un-IDed rune will expand and people will spend more money to buy that instead.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DSHammer
However, I agree with the previous poster that it sucks having to compete with Koreans :P
If you actually pay attention to the WoW messages...during Prime Time it is usually an American guild who wins the HoH. If you want to win then just get better.

velvetbunny

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eclair
Well, if you've unlocked the Superior Vigor, the trader will sell it XD
Actually the trader was selling several superior runes i have never unlocked. It will only be for sale if someone sells it to the trader i believe.

jomandoor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackerjak
So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.
agree 100% now im off to play CS insted .... and 2 think i was just about to buy the collecters edition

squakMix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

YEa, right; lie your hardest to get people to listen to you

Pharalon

Pharalon

Beta Tester

Join Date: Jan 2005

Carebear Club

The merchant prices, while initially seeded and stocked, depend on supply and demand. The prices will be a little screwy to start off with, but you should be seeing the true market value of runes there. And because the merchant skims off a tidy profit for himself, there's always room for the independant trader to make some money by undercutting the trader. Of course, it will make it harder for people to scam inexperienced players, becuase they've now got a benchmark for rune prices to compare against.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackerjak
Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so.
I've been PvPing for over an hour a day for more than 9 months now. Still hasn't lost any of its appeal to me *shrugs*

azunder

azunder

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by jomandoor
agree 100% now im off to play CS insted .... and 2 think i was just about to buy the collecters edition
But GW is CS in RPG form.

Evan The Cursed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Well... I can understand... I mean, 50gp for a minor... that's just sad.

Should have been a minimum price on the trader.

Seems to continue Arena Net's tendency to harm those in a single day without warning. Now my whole bag of minor runes is worth a whole lot less.

Though I can't really complain, since I'm more of a buyer than a seller anyways.

squakMix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Don't sell to merchants; sell for 10 gp less than the trader.

I personally love this update; it really keeps people from ripping off the noobs with this stuff anymore. I saw a major vigor go for 15k yesterday.

That's the kind of shit they're cutting down upon.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackerjak
So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.
totally +1 to this :/

what's next? free sigil every day? look at towns atm..noobs r on rune traders and happy to see this... pls listen to what we rlly need...not giving noobs what they cant get

Static

Static

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

New York City

W/Mo

I hope they fix this rune seller update... theres numerous amounts of people lined up at the rune seller. Last time I checked, I was in Drokanrs Forge, and the rune seller was selling a Major Absorbtion for 19k, and a Major Vigor for 15K. I really think the rune seller addition will ruin the economy and is just going to make GW head downhill and I hope it gets removed.

The Pope

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crackerjak
So, tell me what happens in one week when every player has bought every superior rune he or she needs. That player then goes and buys the best weapon for his class from a collector for 500 gold. What does that player then do? Monster hunt? Why? Experience? Your max level. Gold? You already have everything you can buy. Pvp? Sure, but for more than 1 hour a day? I don't think so. Everyone who likes this patch is because it just made everything easier for them to get, but what they don't realize is once they have everything, the game loses interest, as it has for me.
PvP.

I honestly don't care if I have a sword of ultimate destruction or a pointed stick, as long as my opponent has the same thing.

Edit: Witchblade - n00bs? How long have you held HoH? You're probably just a n00b with a lot of spare time, but still a n00b. Do you seriously think grinding proves anything?

osakaaet1

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

This game was always about inter-guild PvP and never about farming.
There is a Dye Trader and the market for Dye selling has not fallen through...black dyes are still very much sought after even though you can buy them from a trader anytime you want.
If they added a weapon/equipment trader, I wouldn't mind either, just so long as the trader would only sell what people sold to them.

The problem with this farming is that it adds a limitless supply of gold into the economy making it worthless. There would come a stage where superior runes would sell for 120K simply because farmers flooded the game with liquidity.

All I really care about is getting the best equipment and skills for my characters as I can and then work on a strong build for PvP.

Cross Blade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

USA-Northern Cal

R/N

Im a casual player. the most money Ive had at one time was like 6000 and change and I felt like I was rich. my main character is almost 17th lvl and I havent seen a rune yet. I tried to buy one and the price was over 10000. I dont have a lot of time to play so I really cant do alot of farming. what yall that dont like this patch are saying is that players like me dont deserve to be able to compeat with all the grinders out there. well this game was marketed that you didnt need to play for 10 hours a day to enjoy and be good at it. thats why I never got into the othe other MMOs, in those ones you have to put in more hours than a ful time job to even come close to being powerful.
others might not like it, but I cant wait to get on later tonight for maybe an hour or 2 and maybe get to have fun and improve my character at the same time and not have to worry about not having 20000 gold. if this drives you away cause you cant get rich by overcharging us casual players then your not playing the right game anyways. I dont want to piss anyone off but thats life.

Null

Null

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Santa Cruz, CA

I seriously hope everyone threatening to quit because of this does. The game doesn't need any more people selling runes that give 50-60 HP for 80+ plat.

Sleeky101

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Mo/

If you still want to be a rune seller, just sell un-ided ones. You can tell what class and type it is, and I'd bet people would gladly play to unlock runes on their account.

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witchblade
got 2 mules of runes :/
Really? That's truly sad. One hopes this patch fixes things like that. People shouldn't need or want a mule character, much less multiple mules. There needs to be effective ways to buy, sell, or trade stuff so that people can keep their inventories relatively clear. Traders like the dye trader, the materials trader, and now the runes trader serve that function. Hopefully someday the sigil trader will become useful, too. I'd rather be able to just dump all the runes I don't want somewhere immediately rather than have to pack them all away somewhere awaiting the perfect buyer. I haven't been in the game since the patch, but I'm looking forward to unloading all that crud I don't need, but didn't want to just toss because I know there are people out there that could use it. I have a half dozen runes I had no real use for, now I can sell them to someone who will find someone who wants to buy them, rather than just tossing them in the bit bucket like merchants do.

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleeky101
If you still want to be a rune seller, just sell un-ided ones. You can tell what class and type it is, and I'd bet people would gladly play to unlock runes on their account.
Exactly! I'm willing to bet people would actually pay slightly more for an un-ided rune that they need to unlock then for any plain id'ed rune. This doesnt hurt you as much as you think it does.

Vittorio

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

I highly doubt you'll be seeing superior vigor runes going for any less than they've been going for, unless you find a fool who is selling cheap due to ignorance. The Rune Trader sells superior vigor runes for 100k, so, you can either pay that, or buy it from me for 90k

theclam

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

I really don't understand why people are mad when they reduce the amount of grind in the game. Now, people can focus more of their time on PvP or mission/quest/exploring PvE, rather than farming PvE.