Wish we could gather up all the small guilds

I think there are tons of people in my situation.

The situation is this, small guild, only a few active. People in my situation don't want to leave their friends and don't want to put our fate into someone else's hands that might not have the same concepts of respect and fun game play that we do.

It's a hard spot to be in, should I quit and join another guild?

From my experience so far that just doesn't seem to work. There are so many guilds out there and so many leaders that aren't online enough to lead effectively. Alternately the rest of the leaders seem greedy and bossy.

We look at a guild and they sound great so I add them to my friends list to kind of spy on their online time and zero or one officer will get on for days. So I go on to the next guild but the line seems endless.

The only viable choice seems to be joining one of the big guilds. I know I don't want that. Even if I'm one of the few that gets picked I wouldn't like the in-guild competitive nature of having a big guild in this game.

I think the rotten thing for people like me is that my ultimate goal is to help the guild. I don't care if I ever get help, I don't want free items or runes, I don't want gold or supplies. I just want a place to hang out build up skill and help others.

I wish there was some way to group up all the people like me under one leader that's online and not after something for himself and start a great and friendly guild.

It seems to be easy for the unfriendly competitive guilds. The shouters in the cities have no problem finding members.

Its just a pity your situated East Coast USA Asdar There are a lot of very good guilds out there whom I'm sure share the same ethics as yourself.

The key is to finding one which fits most of your demands.Mind you it would help if there was a facility on here where Guilds could properly advertise ( where they would have to state key info about themselves) rather than the cumbersome way of having to private message people in the 'looking for guild' thread.

The guild choice is more like: do you go to the small, family-operated store at the neighborhood corner, or do you go to Walmart. There are advantages in either. You can always keep some of your old guildies in friendly list so can ask them to invite you back if needed. If helping others is all you want, then try to help those guildless ones. They're most likely true new players who need help, and not second characters of some veteran players.

Well I am in the same situation Asdar... Many of my members have stopped playing.. I am currently thinking of a Guild merger, but with who? Which name/cape to keep... If any small guilds are interested in a merger sent me a message... Details on my guild are in the database on this site.

You guys aren't alone. I've noticed this for awhile, and just now am trying to do something about it. It's really tough as there are so many guilds out there, and trying to get them to join is very difficult as no one wants to leave their guild name (me included). What I've been doing is leading PuG + guildies in the tombs, get a couple wins, maybe get lucky to take HoH, and later on add the good players to my list and ask them if they would like to join. There is a reason that there are a lot of pick up groups in the tombs: their guild is probably too small and they don't have enough on to forumulate a guild only team.

A friend of mine gave me an idea for a guild allience, and setting up some rooms in a shared Vent Channel such that both guilds would have no problem finding other people to group with. I am considering a merger, but at this moment I will need to think about it some more, or talk it over with other guild leaders. If anything, feel free to look me up.


Shenrei Freyja

I would definately consider an alliance... We do have a TS server right now but I think its limited to 10 people. We are East Coast mostly!

I am with u. I have been thinking about a merge to but no idea how to find another small guild. in my guild there is like 10 people but only 4/5 active. ready to drop it and find more bringing my r/l friends with me, the 4/5 active ones. stopping me is the guild hall i got because of hrs of farming saving up the 60k+ between me and my officers. would be more than willing to bring in another guild as mine or if they have a hall bring mine to theirs. i put my guild info in the site not sure if it is up yet. if someone wants to talk about a bring guilds tog. add me to ur friends Guvna Craft, im always on prob been on Andy, or I R I M I S.

Also east coast no TS but i know my officer can get us one since he had one in the other games we played tog.

While not the leader of my guild, I was recently promoted to an officer. That being said, I can empathize with all of you. I dont want to be another face in the crowd with the larger guilds, but i do get frustrated when I look at the activity log and see that over half of the guild has not been on in over a week or more. I think that we have one or two pushing the 4-5 week time frame. This makes it hard sometimes to run any missions because I am finding my slef at the mercy of the local pickup group, which can be a train wreck looking for a track.

I have my guild started it for the casual gamer who didn't get to play but a little everday. Ya know those of use with jobs. Thought it was a good idea this way you have people around all the time who all play at diff time so it would be easier to meet up and group even if it was only 2 or 3 of ya it was better than all henchies. Plus i hate not having real humans around.

Needless to say the guild never took off i even have a guild hall some kick ass capes and i think a pretty cool name for the guild we are listed on the registry so in any other small guild are looking to merge and want a guild hall in the package please pm me or whisper me in game. I may have started this guild but am by no means a tyrant i just want to have fun

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I've been trying to get some smaller guilds to join forces with mine, I just really want to play proper GvG battles and the such, and my guild altho growing just isn't quite there. There was 1 guild that wanted to merge, and then changed their mind because they wanted to get their own guild hall and didn't want my guild name.. now I feel a bit guilty because one of their members said if the merge didn't happen they might just leave the guild, now I feel like I've poached a player :P
But yes, if any European guilds want to talk about a possible merge, I'm open for suggestion - IGN Lyssa of Yendor, or if you want to do a guild battle, message me also

I too understand, we took on a lot of members at first knowing that most would weed themselves out but what bothers me is that the guild officers and leader are the only ones who have registered on the guild site. We managed to have one GvG (got crunched) and had a couple members that weren't officers show up but other than that it's been static. I also think part of the problem is that there are too many leaders and not enough followers in this game. It seems that everybody wants to start a guild for themself... which is a neat concept (having your own guild), but what good is it if there isn't anybody to follow?

with that said, is there a way we could make a list of 'small guilds' and those guilds just ban together untill their member activity picks up (it is also the start of summer and many are on vaccation or adjusting to seasonal changes at home and work).

our group is mainly central standard time, playing in the evenings.


I motion for a "Small Guilds Alliance" board

^^^

These are exactly the reasons why this GW player hasn't joined a guild yet and will not join one for a few months at least.

The "bigger" guilds themselves don't have more than 12-15 active players, the smaller ones have 4-5 actives. Often compounding the whole pointlessness of joining a guild from my perspective is the absence of a vibrant TS community and enough people who just play 4-6 hours every dayand who keep a level head and have fun. No christian evangelical guilds or Ipwn daNoobiez peeps for me.

What smaller guilds have getting in the way is just little details. "I wont give up my cape, i wont give up my hall, I wont give up my guild name"...even when there are only a handful of actives and most peple with any real talent will never join their guild because of that...and precisely this attitude of NOT looking at the bigger picture.

Too many egos and too few level heads around, IMO. Take this from a player who has not joined a guild in this game because the imperfections of too many are too apparent:

Chuck the "my cape awesome, my guild name awesome, my guild hall awesome, will not change it, if you wanna merge u join us" stuff. Get out of that mindset already. Look at where your guild is and where you would want to be. Don't be yet another one of those 2837 guilds out there whose guild leader thinks he has a fine cape-fine name-fine hall. Be one of the few guilds out there whose leader knows he has a great community HE needs to serve.

Being a leader isn't an exercise in ego-tripping. It's a chance to make comfortable those who are under you, help them make the best of their gaming experience and facilitate the building of a virtual home away from home.

umm.. I do believe there is a thread for "why I have not joined a guild" or something to that effect.

I think Terminal actually speaks some sense and sooner rather than later the smaller guilds hand's will be forced as without adequate numbers they cannot compete on the guild ladder in PvP if that is their aim.

This is rather frustrating. Our guild (Gentlemens Club), is by no means small. We have about 25 members, I believe. However, the problem is that there's only 1-6 guildies active at one time, 7 if we're lucky. 'Bout 10 people haven't logged on for over 2 weeks, and the leader hasn't actually been truly active (on for 3+ hours per day for a few days) for over a month. Many of us come from the Adventure Quest (Online flash-based rpg) forums, and we're already friends from there, so us actives (we're basically the same people) don't want to abandon each other. We've discussed all leaving, but the concensus was clear: This guild has done so much for us. Many of our members have quit from sheer boredom, and this leaves us in a tight situation. Leaving would probably be in our best interests, but we're kind of emotionally attached to the guild.

Take the active interested members and start your own. There are many small active guilds out there that would take good people. Look around, there are many more then people think.

well, i kinda know how you feel, my guild currently has 6 members doing gvg. we had 5 friends originally and picked up a pretty cool guy for our 6th. we did 4v4 for bout 3-4 days to get a feel for each other and to develope chemistry. after that, we scheduled a time when everyone was free to compete. we then bring our 6 and 2 hench in. its worked pretty well up until today, when we got trashed by negative zero(sorry, had to throw that in, its like i met a celebrity or sumthin). so i guess we hafta start recruiting as well. but once u guys get ranked, finding recruits shouldnt be as hard. the problem then will be finding someone who'll be able to fit in. well i guess my advice is to stick with it and try to run some gvg's with ur currently active members. see where that goes. who knows? u might march right up the rankings...

Hey, i've been in the same situation as well. I added a lot of your names to my friends list (Guvna Craft, Kewen Latronis, Shenrei Freyja). Our guild has 9, 3 of which are very active, and 5 of which play only an hour a day or so. (still not bad I guess from what I've been reading).

I know it's hard to give up your identity, which is why I propose that we just ally for some tombs action. Get to know each other, and maybe if things click we can merge.

My game name is The Fighting Bear, guild is Da Bearsss, and yes, my pvp char's name is Coach Mike Ditka.

I run into this with my gild also
we are very small smaller then we once were
I just couldn't get anyone to recruit with me
I even saved up and bought a guild hal for now a guild of three.
So if anyone is intersted whisper me in game if you don't mind changing names i am willing to just be a figurehead and need no real control over the guild i would just like some folks who are willing to play.
I think getting people from a bunch time zones is also very important as you grow that way there is always some one on line from the guild to hook up with if you need help in a quest and such

I'm thinking about the possibility of a merger with another guild as well and for all the same reasons listed above. Although I'm currently working on building up my monk to be Tombs-ready (and doing lots of PvE this last week because of it), I'm primarily focused on PvP and have had the privelege of winning HoH a couple of times and gaining some rank with the use of my Elementalist.

I actually never thought too much (or too highly) about a guild merger... the group of around eight people who are currently in this guild are fairly close friends who have been gaming in GW since the beginning of the beta events. The main problem with our current situation is that we have two or three members who are active while the other people have gone for a week or more without logging on. Those active members (of which one of those is myself) are extremely active. I'm in-game at least two hours a day working on different RP characters to unlock skills and other things, and another two or three hours doing Arena or Tombs. This game is a guild-based game, and you can't enjoy some of the major parts of the game without an active guild.

Here are some things that CoE has and would like to keep if a guild merger is taken:

Website/Domain/Forum: We would like to keep the domain and forum (http://forum.councilofexile.com) because this has been an out-of-pocket cost that has been paid up front for a year. On top of that, it has been a fairly good amount of work that we have put in, and we are constantly adding different mods and changing the style to make the forum better for our guild members. I hope the clan that will consider merging with us will have some people who are interested in forum/website administration and design, but this isn't necessary... I've done everything so far based on feedback from our current members and I can continue that in whatever spare time I have.

Voice Communication: Also, we have a TeamSpeak server that is available through the end of the year (ts.councilofexile.com:9802). It is password-protected of course with our current members already registered, so it would be convenient for us (and possibly the merged clan) to keep this server. This isn't necessary though... we can make the needed change to use any voice communication server (including Vent) if requested. Voice communication while in-game at all times is a must if we are going to merge.

High Level of PvP Activity: The whole reason for this merger offer is to get active members into a combined guild who are all focused on grouping for PvP in Tombs and guild battles. Our current members have been doing PvP in Tombs and guild battles throughout the beta events and after release and are frustrated with how hard it is to be successful with PUGs. It can happen, but it would be so much easier with the guild. If a guild is considering this, then take the time to verify whether or not you have the active members that would be required for this.

Combined Leadership: Our current leadership is made up of all our current members. I try to provide as much organization as possible, but the rules are made by our members. On that note, our members are older with our youngest member around 20 (oldest being about as old as dirt ). We aren't looking for a guild exactly like this and have no problem bringing in younger members, but that's just some information about us that will help you in your decision. We like to have fun in-game and we know each other well. All that being said, we don't have any problems sharing the leadership with every member who comes into the group from the new guild. You will have just as much say in how things go as the rest of us, but maturity and the good of the group needs to come first when making decisions.

This whole post about merging is just what I've discussed with our current members, and it's the beginning of a process that will involve lots of in-game grouping and talking on TS before it actually happens. I'm sure everyone knows that merging can have problems, and I'd like to eliminate as much of that as possible beforehand. An interested guild can either find me in-game or send me a PM and we'll go from there.

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That's the end of my 'merging' post. I haven't heard from the moderators on this type of postings... it borders on the line of recruitment. I know you guys won't hesitate to let us know if merging posts are considered against forum policies. Merges can really help the PvP situation I think... if the merge is well-planned and with like-minded guilds.

well
my guild is recruiting new talent

Team HAF

We are a division of teamhaf.com / a medium size BF2 clan
we have about 40 members in guild
20plus are active... and our top 10 are super active
most are level 20, and some have 2-4 lvl 20s
our emphasis is going to be pvp, gvg , and hoh
now, were just grinding out our 4 characters, and working on the right combination of team builds

we have a teamspeak server, and have a lot of fun
our requirements: age 18, have a mic, and use teamspeak... thats about it
we have a 2 week recruitment phase, where we try you on, as you do us...
if inteerested, check out teamhaf.com

our members range from 18-60 in age, all over the US, Canada, etc...

PM Me in game, IGN: Lord Dunc X

Our problem in a nutshell:

And when the leader logs in, it's not for very long.......

But I'm not leaving. Our guild is finally looking up. Our main officer finally explained why he never really logs on for long (Family doesn't have the good internet connection that he has at college). New officer (not me), and just some real explanations. The fact that several among us (including the leader) are moderators in an extremely active forum explains a lot too.

The Daemon Bane clan is officially announcing it's decision to merge with the Mercenaries of Awen. check they web site see like a good group of people.

Small guild unite and we can then compete in this game

Wow Shadowsting, that screen looks very familiar. Our leader is on mostly once or twice a week and his main role right now is doing the HoH runs to get a sigil, so can't fault him at all for that.

The rest of us (active) are usually on at the same times each day, and yes, we still have over half of the roster that have not played in some time. But I agree with what you said in that I do not want to leave my guild. And since I was promoted to an officer, it now falls in my lap to help make the changes we need to get better.

The only thing I need help figuring out is how to get a TS (or other) server for us to use. I really see the value of having voice chat, because it is VERY hard to type and fight at the same time.

agreed, im the leader of my guild and im on almost every day but there are only a couple of others who are on regularly, my officer just left me because people weren't active enough which means i just lost my most trusted member who was on the most. Situation has now got worse and i am losing the will to carry on. I dont have a hall yet and even after numerous tomb runs i havent got one. My guild does not have the attraction of bigger guilds therefore i dont get enough people to advance my guild.


I THANK ALL WHO SENT ME AN INVITE, PLEASE NO MORE I WAS NOT ASKING FOR AN INVITATION

My guild, the Lordknights, have been a guild since 1999 and have a decently large member base...but alas, with so many games on the market, and less time to play since most of arn't in college anymore, we only have around 9 members playing GW, out of 50+. I would love to add any other guild to our roster, as well as make other leaders/officers officers in our GW chapter...we have a website at www.lordknights.tk that has forums, and we have a ventrilo server that holds up to 50 slots that I admin. We have great experience with pvp and running things (in shadowbane, we had an empire that spanned 33+ cities with over 250 members under our wing for over a year) if anyone would be interested....my toon name in GW is Myric Justiciar to contact me, or you may post on our forums or message me here ( I am eastern time zone, but we have members from both coasts and some canadians/brits).

Just like Myrik_Justiciar posted, The Knights of the Alliance is a MMORPG Community that has been around for a long time. GW is our newest chapter and the hardest one so far to find good active members. WoW is by far our most popular chapter, we continue to get 5 to 6 people in a week.

If there are guilds who want to either join our community or ally with us please contact us. We will gladly add a private ally message section to our forums so we can communicate with each other. I am also looking for officers to fill out my Inner Council. So if your a dedicated player that likes to help out the guild, I need recruiting officers, Group and PvP Officers. Here is our guild info.


The Knights of the Alliance (KoA) is looking for mature players interested in joining a old and successful gaming community(Established 1997). We have active chapters in Ultima Online, World of Warcraft, and our own private UO emulator shard NUO. We are actively recruiting for our newest chapter in Guild Wars so if you are seeking a guild to join, please visit our website.

We are just a bunch of mature adults for the most part that enjoy PvE and PvP. We believe in helping each other out, so one of our main goals is to help members complete quests and level up. Even if we do missions 1000 times, the fun comes in from playing together. We also plan to be very competetive in the PvP scene, once we have a core group and have worked together.

We use Ventrilo Chat program which we host a private server.

Check out our guild website and click on the forums. If you like what were are about fill out a GW application and we will contact you ASAP.

http://www.allianceknights.net/

http://www.allianceknights.net/phpBB2/

Feel free to email me at [email protected] or ICQ me at 30701495.

GW name: Detrick Sky

Any guild that merges with us. I would like their leader to serve as an officer. We are also looking for friendly guilds to work with.

I know people are tied to a cape or a name in this game. It would be hard for me to walk away froma guild I have been in since 1999. Our capes are simple, but we are a mature adult guild that is about having fun in our gaming. Recruiting in GW is much more frustrating than in other games KoA has been in. Our reputation is known in many MMORPG's, so recruiting is easy. Not that way in GW's/ So feel free to contact me for more info. We have players in every timezone, but mostly CST and EST.

Sometimes though a small guild can be a good thing. Obviously it would be nice to have 8+ players for some true GvG but other than that it can be a nice community as well. My guild, Servants of the Son has 6 players at the moment and almost everyone is on daily for a little while. The difference for us though is that we have a very specific target audience which has helped with recruitment and finding dedicated players, and we would have 7 but one member left for unknown reasons *shrugs*. Like I said, sometimes a small guild can be good, just depends on the play style you are looking for too My guild is mostly PvE so we run a lot of missions/quests together.

<-----just look over there for my info. I'd be more than happy to group together with another small guild for some PvP/PvE! Just look me up in game and I'll be more than happy to get together.

I have started a Guild consolidation. My guild, Order of Glint, was just 5 people. I went to to other guilds I knew and invited their players. So, we started to grow. Now we are around 20... but still willing to accept new members.

My IGN is Hermione Granger, guild is OoG, so hit me up if you want to apply.

How did this turn into a recruitment thread? lol...I guess stealing members would be one way to make your guild grow. The truth is if someone gets disenfrachised with their guild they will leave. The game is still young so it may only be a matter of time before we see smaller guilds falling by the way side for the most part. Just my opinion though.

It's not a real recruitment thread untill we see that loved Ascalon spam!

... someone shoot me ><

Anyways, I like the idea of merging together - although I know how valued independence is. That's why I propose a coalition, a huge alliance. I'd love to get a bunch of friendly guilds to go kill stuff with (those damned W/Mo's are on that kill list..).

Check out our forums, I'm slowly building them up to a COMMUNITY forum. My dream is to get a big group of friendly people there to just have fun, imagine the funny, stupid stuff we could get in the jokes forum ...

http://dblow.co.uk/forum/ (I'm Ascension there as well)

Please contact me for an allaince idea, or just to talk. New friends of any sort are always welcome.

I know exactly how you guys feel! I actually just signed up for this board today with the express purpose of asking about how to get my guild moving in the right direction.
We've got 12 members. There's the leader, me, who's on every day for several hours, at least(weekends may be an exception), and one of my friends who's an officer. He's on about as much as I am. Another of my officers is on most of the time, but has suddenly become inactive...hope he's alright. Other than that, our only active members seem to be the type that just want to be left alone. Not really sure how that happened, since I recruited them all after getting to know each one, a little.
Point is, I want to get GvG competitive. We've got a hall, and if I can get enough members I'll get teamspeak too, but the whole problem is a lack of active members. It seems each time I pick up someone promising, they join, then are gone the next day when I log in.
Now, most of the people in my guild are friends. We all know each other from Neverwinter Nights, and have stuck together in a transition to Guild Wars. A lot of these people it seems are still addicted to the former game, and not enough to the latter, however.

Anyhow, I'll come down to the jist of it:
I sold my soul to get the guild hall, and now there's no one to even fight in it. At this point a merger, wether to someone elses guild, or them into mine, is looking damn fine. Don't care if I'm an officer, or a simple member; all I care is that I get to fight in GvG with the rest o' yah, and keep my friends with me. A little note though, I won't merge into a group that isn't friendly. The guild motto over here is that we only accept members you'd go to the bar with, so if you're not that sort of player/guild, I don't want to deal with you.
That said...if anyone wants to merge, PM me. I'd PM you guys that already mentioned it, but I'm not sure which of you all is still interested in it. If you want to find me in game, Klazen Dias is the character I'm mostly on as.

hi
My guild is about 24 members big, were setting up a pvp of dedicated members who log on 2 days of the week to do some pvp'ing. And were doing all kinds of different stuff, were going to kick some inactive members to make some more room as we dont want more than 35 people i reckon
We got some nice active officers for when im not around, and i log on nearly every day for a few hours
So if you think of joining us, please leave a message here, or pm me, or just hook up our site
www.the-heroics.tk
I 2 feel that smaller guilds realy need to merge with other guilds in order to be more competetive. Yesterday i almost merged with another clan of 17 members who got 8 active members so it would be easier for both to do some guildwars, but the leader didnt want to give up his cape or hall. Neither did I but it wasnt my idea to merge.

I have read this thread with much interest and thought I might add my input from a Guild Leader Standpoint.

Small guilds with nenbers who aren't on often are very annoying. It is frustrating to be in a guild with 5 whole people, who you never see in-game. But by you leaving your guild to join another more active guild, you are only contributing to the problem. This has been an age-old hurtle for Guild/Clan/Team Leaders in Video Games. As a leader you must be very careful and selective of your recruitment, and finding dedicated members to really start the snowball effect of growth is important.

It wouldn't be so difficult if all the members you recruited were paitent. If you are on all the time and rarely see any of your guildies, that's no reason to leave. If anything it is a reason to stay. The more people like yourself in a guild who want a bunch of guildies on, and get on constantly to see them on, the more guildies you will start to see. It's really a personal struggle to be paitent and wait for more people who are on often to join the guild.

Hell, if you are desparate enough to want more guildies on, do something about it. Talk to your guild leader about making you an officer so you can recruit for the guild and make his/her guild grow and really become a community. The guild leader would be so happy because of your enthusisasm. There is no better guild member in my book than one who is dedicated, trys anything in their power for the guild to prosper, and is excited and supportive of the Guild.

So basiclly the point I am trying to get across here is this: If you are sick of people not being active is your guild, leaving is the worst thing you can do. Tough it out for a little while and you will eventually get more active members. Either that or become an active recruiter for the guild and only recruit those with the qualities you covet.

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Aesir Odin
Bahadur Of Ragnarok Guild Leader
www.bahadurofragnarok.8m.com

To echo my fearless leaders post above (good job boss), it is up to me to make sure that I invite and seek out people to join our guild to help fill out the membership. And yes, not all of the people I invite are going to be happy or stick around, but such is life. However, usually one or two decided to make us their home and that works out great.

Hell, they didn't know me from Charr crap before they invited me in, and after much playing and thorough enjoyment they made me an Officer. So don’t be surprised if you see me shouting out recruitment slogans in the local town square

But to follow the original intention of this thread, I would love to pair up with some of you guys and do whatever. I am always looking for a good excuse to kill things; I know how much everyone loves to have a W/Mo by their side.

Very good point sir. To play devil's advocate, wouldn't it be better to reach out for support for that problem of inactivity. I look at it from a merge standpoint, where those inactive people can be absorbed into the whole and encouraged. Obviously some "leet" guild would boot them, but if you found a group of people who understand that you have work, kids, or something along those lines you can be inactive. In this case, that merging leader could get all the support he needed to make his guild active.

Under the right situation;

guild A + guild B = kick ass new guild C

If you find the right people, a merge becomes much more then just a combination of power - it becomes a meld of two styles into a greater whole which benefits from all perspectives.

I've lost track of what I'm thinking, better quit while I'm ahead!

Good luck to all the guilds out there, there are ALWAYS OPTIONS, OPPURTUNITES, AND A POSITIVE SIDE of your adventures!

-Ascension

Ah yes mergers, I forgot to address that

I see two problems with megers. One is the merger itself. One guild or the other has to give up their name/cape/hall and join the other guild or the guilds must form an entirly new guild, costing much in-game gold and losing any hall they currently hold. The descison on which guild shall live on is a delicate subject that more often than not leaves many hurt or angry members leaving BOTH guilds. That just snowballs the inactive members because you end up losing some!

The other problem is that you will recive more inactive members. Yes you may get some active members and can boast about a 50+ memberlist.....until someone notices 46 of them are inactive.

Don't get me wrong, mergers can turn out to be the best possible option, but in my expirence, more often than not they end up in disaster.

Heh, thanks.

By the way you spelt the guild name wrong in your profile

It's Bahadur Of Ragnarok, I know it's a hard name to spell

Cya this sunday .

Our guild Amicus Renaissance (http://www.guildamicus.org/) is really in the same boat as some other cross game guilds. We are predominently WoW Alliance with 40+ people. We started back in FFXI, then spreaded across WoW Alliance, WoW Horde, City of Heroes and The Matrix Online. Then we started in GW, a whole bunch of people bought the game, played for a bit and stopped because there's no monthly fee committment. Now we are down to about 6 active members from the initial batch of 20-30 we got.

We had been through this before, our WoW Horde guild dwindled down to 4-5 people from its peak of 20. We basically let the remaining members decide what they want to do. They decided it's best to just let it go and join another guild so they can participate in the high level contents. For GW though, it's so new still so we are not ready to give up so we are going to try to recruit some quality members, and maybe have people from inactive/smaller guilds joining up with us.

An odd note though, we just got a dedicated recruiting officer in WoW Horde and immediately recruited several good members this week It really does wonder when you have a dedicated person trying to talk to a lot of people in game and try to recruit.

Im up for new members and mergers, especially mergers IF YOUR GUILD IS NEW....I dont want to merge with a guild that has 5 level 20 that are active, and 20 inactive players. We are a fresh new guild, mostly noobs. SEE BELOW

"Consort Of Simpatico Carnage"
http://www.guilduniverse.com/cosc/

We are about 13 members strong and growing fast each day (4 day old guild). 90% are active within the last 24hrs, most have just made it to post searing and some are still pre sear. So its a great time to join if you are starting a new character.

The only rules we have is that if you are going to do quests/missions is to add guild members to your party. That way we can get to know eachother and have a blast doing so. If you cant find anyone then hec, recruit. See our site on why over the next two weeks everyone is an officer.

So, if you are looking for a new guild, want to help out a new guild or have a small guild and want to merge into us, give us a shout.

I can be reached in game at "Selden Meliorate" (guild leader) or IM me.
Yahoo = marcmiles
MSN = [email protected]
AIM = boxcarwillimarc

I have lots of opportunities open for those that like to take on offline responsibilities, such as teamspeak, website posting, recruiting ect.

NOTE: We do not have a guild hall as right now our focus is PVE not PVP. IF you are new to the game, realize that a guild hall is only worth having if your guild is doing PVP, otherwise, join us and build up your character(s) with a great group people. Also, we dont have teamspeak, however there is interest in getting that set up.