Okay I've had the misfortune of having sold multiple gold weapons and expensive runes.
I sold my superior earth rune to the vendor. I sold a nice gold fellblade with % modifier to the vendor. I think I've sold a couple of other things by accident too.
And I know what you think, "Wow dude are you that dumb" Actually no. I live with my room mates who pay COX to be our ISP. bad mistake COX sux. What do I mean? High ping time. I tried tracing my connection and some of the ping from COX own servers actually takes about 1800 ms to respond.
Okay so what does that mean in a non technical term?
Say I'm selling the following items to the vendor
1) Junk 1
2) Junk 2
3) Gold item xxx
I start selling junk item 1
then junk item 2
However due to high latency and stupid amount of packet loss. It looks to me like I'm still selling junk item #2 when in fact I'm currently selling my gold item.
So my request to ANET can we plz plz have a confirmation window when selling gold, or customized or other rare items to the vendor?
To all of you, stay away from COX. I'm not alone in this. Just look up the internet you'll see there're so many ppl terribly pissed with their service. The bandwith flactuation, the dropouts, the packet loss, all of which would make a fast paced game like GW almost unplayable. That's not the worse of it, they hire idiots for their customer service who knows nothing about networking.
Merchants SHOULD have confirmation dialog.
Malchiel
Creston
While I do emphatize with your situation, I would recommend that you stash the really valuable stuff temporarily in your vault before going to the merchant to sell stuff.
Because, honestly, if I have to confirm every single 5gp piece of junk that I'm selling, it's going to get VERY annoying VERY quickly.
With regards to Cox, every ISP has people who have problems, and by that criterium alone, nobody should ever join any ISP out there, since they'd all suck.
I am personally on Cox, and have a fantastic internet connection. My ping to the guildwars server is 35ms. Where are you located? Have you tried tracerouting (tracert) the server, and seeing where the issue is? If you can pinpoint a location where it goes wrong, you can call them and ask to be referred to a 2nd or 3rd line support person. The helpdesk guys don't know networking, that's true. That's why they're 22K helpdesk peons. The 2nd or 3rd line support guys will know, and might be able to help you out. You should NEVER get sustained 1800ms pings. That's enough time to get the signal to the moon and back TWICE.
Btw, we've ALL sold stuff to the merchant we didn't want to.
But I really like the non confirmation on everything, it just makes inventory management go so much smoother.
Creston
Because, honestly, if I have to confirm every single 5gp piece of junk that I'm selling, it's going to get VERY annoying VERY quickly.
With regards to Cox, every ISP has people who have problems, and by that criterium alone, nobody should ever join any ISP out there, since they'd all suck.
I am personally on Cox, and have a fantastic internet connection. My ping to the guildwars server is 35ms. Where are you located? Have you tried tracerouting (tracert) the server, and seeing where the issue is? If you can pinpoint a location where it goes wrong, you can call them and ask to be referred to a 2nd or 3rd line support person. The helpdesk guys don't know networking, that's true. That's why they're 22K helpdesk peons. The 2nd or 3rd line support guys will know, and might be able to help you out. You should NEVER get sustained 1800ms pings. That's enough time to get the signal to the moon and back TWICE.
Btw, we've ALL sold stuff to the merchant we didn't want to.
But I really like the non confirmation on everything, it just makes inventory management go so much smoother.
Creston
Malchiel
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While I do emphatize with your situation, I would recommend that you stash the really valuable stuff temporarily in your vault before going to the merchant to sell stuff.
Because, honestly, if I have to confirm every single 5gp piece of junk that I'm selling, it's going to get VERY annoying VERY quickly. With regards to Cox, every ISP has people who have problems, and by that criterium alone, nobody should ever join any ISP out there, since they'd all suck. I am personally on Cox, and have a fantastic internet connection. My ping to the guildwars server is 35ms. Where are you located? Have you tried tracerouting (tracert) the server, and seeing where the issue is? If you can pinpoint a location where it goes wrong, you can call them and ask to be referred to a 2nd or 3rd line support person. The helpdesk guys don't know networking, that's true. That's why they're 22K helpdesk peons. The 2nd or 3rd line support guys will know, and might be able to help you out. You should NEVER get sustained 1800ms pings. That's enough time to get the signal to the moon and back TWICE. Btw, we've ALL sold stuff to the merchant we didn't want to. But I really like the non confirmation on everything, it just makes inventory management go so much smoother. Creston |
Plz re-read my post.
I'm asking for a confirmation dialog when selling gold / rare items only. Not for junks.
My average ping time with cox has been.... guess what 1100 ms
I'm definitely not excited abt their service in my area.Sometimes it's better but for the past 1 month now, it's been really poor.
I have SBC DSL at my home. Works so much better, so much smoother and better, friendlier customer service, who knows what they're doing. No cox just sucks. They used to have heavy flactuation of their bandwith cap. Now high ping rate. Got stupid modems that didn't work, and they blamed us for it. And finally fixed it after about 2-3 weeks of constantly calling them which's a lot of waste.
Creston
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Plz re-read my post.
I'm asking for a confirmation dialog when selling gold / rare items only. Not for junks. My average ping time with cox has been.... guess what 1100 ms I'm definitely not excited abt their service in my area.Sometimes it's better but for the past 1 month now, it's been really poor. I have SBC DSL at my home. Works so much better, so much smoother and better, friendlier customer service, who knows what they're doing. No cox just sucks. They used to have heavy flactuation of their bandwith cap. Now high ping rate. Got stupid modems that didn't work, and they blamed us for it. And finally fixed it after about 2-3 weeks of constantly calling them which's a lot of waste. |
As for Cox, I guess you just live in an area where they have bad infrastructure, I'm seeing none of these issues here in Oklahoma. In your case, I would just switch. No point in paying 40 bucks a month for service if it's that crappy.
Creston
IxChel
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So my request to ANET can we plz plz have a confirmation window when selling gold, or customized or other rare items to the vendor?
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Thadius Invictus
I think perhaps a warning when selling purple and gold things might be in order. Whilst playing Civ3, when you went to sell a building or some such that was over 250 gold a confirmation dialog popped up asking if you really want to do that. It shouldn't be that hard to script.
ummmm....Civ3.....must fight the addiction......must nuke the enemy.....damn polution.
ummmm....Civ3.....must fight the addiction......must nuke the enemy.....damn polution.
Syno
A warning for selling anything at all wouldn't be a bad idea. But if it went towards anything, maybe an option to turn that off. Or just for purple, gold, rare and runes would work as well!
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Angels Touch
I normally keep my salvage kits in my belt pouch and do not sell past them. Then if it is something I want to keep I move it down into one of the bags. you might have to sell some then rearrange again to sell more but it helps.
Though I started this with the expert salvage kit on the left so it is the first to get "sold", I tried changing it with the basic one but then salvage runes with the basic kit DOH! 400g compared to 100g for repurchase sucks to.
Having a confirmation on gold / purple / runes / customized would be nice. Nothing like swapping weapons out and then selling your secondary weapon (That kick ass no req bow) to the vendor.
Though I started this with the expert salvage kit on the left so it is the first to get "sold", I tried changing it with the basic one but then salvage runes with the basic kit DOH! 400g compared to 100g for repurchase sucks to.
Having a confirmation on gold / purple / runes / customized would be nice. Nothing like swapping weapons out and then selling your secondary weapon (That kick ass no req bow) to the vendor.
Ignotus
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I normally keep my salvage kits in my belt pouch and do not sell past them. Then if it is something I want to keep I move it down into one of the bags. you might have to sell some then rearrange again to sell more but it helps.
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I AM in favor of the confirmation idea though. One way that World of Warcraft combats this is by letting you buy back the last thing you sold to the merchant for the same price that he paid you for it. So, if you accidently sold him your gold customized sword for 50 gold, you can buy it back for 50 gold. If you sell it to him and then sell him something else, then you're hosed. That's just another possible fix or it could be added in addition to the confirmation thing. I like the confirmation idea though.
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Having a confirmation on gold / purple / runes / customized would be nice. Nothing like swapping weapons out and then selling your secondary weapon (That kick ass no req bow) to the vendor.
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StandardAI
You can always just, look at what you sell before you sell it.
Zaklex
Is it really that hard to wait for the sale to go through before clicking on the next item to sell, that would solve all of your problems really, just wait for each transaction to finish before moving onto the next one.
Malchiel
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You can always just, look at what you sell before you sell it.
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Damn it, learn to read b4 you speak like a moron.
StandardAI
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To these 2 illeterate ppl. YES IT IS EASY TO SEE WHAT I'M SELLING if NOT for the LAG!
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let it load, everyone else shouldn't have to suffer because a bunch of aolers are having an issue selling items.
Ginko
How do you call that suffering? Nowdays everything you say StandardAI is just whining crap that gets a whole bucket of people to flame. For once in your life can you think about someone else, sheesh, the nerve!
Malchiel
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relly b4 i speek lyk a moran?
let it load, everyone else shouldn't have to suffer because a bunch of aolers are having an issue selling items. |
Do you know what ping is? Do you know what packet loss is? I can have 5gigabits bandwith and have lag spikes.
And in case you didn't know I'm on cable with lag spikes.
I'm selling items and all of a sudden the game froze, and it looks like I'm selling but I'm not and vice versa.
StandardAI I've also read your post, why don't you just git from the game. All you do is complain, but when someone makes a useful suggestion you just dispute it. I guess you just enjoy trolling huh?
Ginko
Please don't energize the troll, it fuels him in his massive flames of destruction. He'll leave if we shut up. 
--Ginko
--Ginko
Reiden Argrock
A little organization goes a long way.
I'm sure you all have spent at least an hour or so working on your keyboard setup and hud setup, why not take a few minutes to organize your bagage
I have id kits, and both salvage kits down in the bottom bag along with my alt weapons, and since I usually know what i'm about to fight I don't have to worry about switching weaps in battle and so they don't get mixed up with loot, I always check out my loot before visiting the merchant, and usually before going to storage as well, any collector items I happen to be saving I stick in the pouch and I have that turned off when I go to merchant.
So, just work on your organization a little bit, and most of your problems will go away,
as for lag, if you know you have it, don't rush to sell your junk, there's really no hurry
I'm sure you all have spent at least an hour or so working on your keyboard setup and hud setup, why not take a few minutes to organize your bagage
I have id kits, and both salvage kits down in the bottom bag along with my alt weapons, and since I usually know what i'm about to fight I don't have to worry about switching weaps in battle and so they don't get mixed up with loot, I always check out my loot before visiting the merchant, and usually before going to storage as well, any collector items I happen to be saving I stick in the pouch and I have that turned off when I go to merchant.
So, just work on your organization a little bit, and most of your problems will go away,
as for lag, if you know you have it, don't rush to sell your junk, there's really no hurry
Malchiel
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A little organization goes a long way.
I'm sure you all have spent at least an hour or so working on your keyboard setup and hud setup, why not take a few minutes to organize your bagage I have id kits, and both salvage kits down in the bottom bag along with my alt weapons, and since I usually know what i'm about to fight I don't have to worry about switching weaps in battle and so they don't get mixed up with loot, I always check out my loot before visiting the merchant, and usually before going to storage as well, any collector items I happen to be saving I stick in the pouch and I have that turned off when I go to merchant. So, just work on your organization a little bit, and most of your problems will go away, as for lag, if you know you have it, don't rush to sell your junk, there's really no hurry |
Software should work around ppl, not ppl around software.
About organizing the loots in a bag. If you keep switching primary and secondary weapons (I do especially since I had a vampiric sword) your primary and secondary weapon placement will change. It doesn't necesarrily sit at the bottom of your bag, or the top of it. It will go to a somewhat random place in your bag.
StandardAI
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LMAO why do you need to suffer when you have to confirm before selling a gold item? WTF. Whoever said anything about AOL?
Do you know what ping is? Do you know what packet loss is? I can have 5gigabits bandwith and have lag spikes. And in case you didn't know I'm on cable with lag spikes. I'm selling items and all of a sudden the game froze, and it looks like I'm selling but I'm not and vice versa. StandardAI I've also read your post, why don't you just git from the game. All you do is complain, but when someone makes a useful suggestion you just dispute it. I guess you just enjoy trolling huh? |
Edit: Oh i'm very flattered you searched my posts by the way
Ignotus
Organize everything you wish to sell into one bag and uncheck the other bags in the merchant window so that they don't show up in the merchant window. That's the best advice IMO. I like being able to spam the sell button without having to confirm, but it wouldn't ruin my day to have to confirm selling blue/gold/purple/customized items as long as I can confirm by hitting SPACEBAR. Have a "yes" and a "no" with "yes" being the default. Or, even better, set an option in the menu where I can turn it off if I don't want to use it. Regardless, it wouldn't be a game-ruining change if I had to confirm the sale.
nechronius
Put items in your storage space. Or as suggested, uncheck a pouch or bag before selling items. Unchecking a single box is easier than clicking "yes" each Time I come across a junk gold or purple item (yes, those exist in abundance).
Yes, software should work around you, not you work around the software, but in this particular situation your own negligence under the given conditions is what is costing you.
Sorry, but in this particular situation I think you are advocating a solution for a nonexistent problem.
Yes, software should work around you, not you work around the software, but in this particular situation your own negligence under the given conditions is what is costing you.
Sorry, but in this particular situation I think you are advocating a solution for a nonexistent problem.
Bingley Joe
I liked the old method where you had to drag things to the seller window.
Actually, what I'd really like would be if the merchants had a mini inventory-type window available where you could load up a bulk sale.
This way people who want to double-click for speed could go ape-s#it in the current sell window, while those who'd like a little more safety could use the bulk drawer..
Actually, what I'd really like would be if the merchants had a mini inventory-type window available where you could load up a bulk sale.
This way people who want to double-click for speed could go ape-s#it in the current sell window, while those who'd like a little more safety could use the bulk drawer..
Mountain Man
In the suggestions forum, I suggested adding an "Undo last transaction" button to the merchant window. That way, if you accidentally buy or sell something, you just hit the "undo" button and no harm done. Of course, the undo queue would last only as long as the merchant window is open.
KainShadow
I use chimeric prism as separator between good item and junk it's unsellable (like quest stuff)
it's unsellable (like quest stuff)
Skawtt
If they do implement a confirmation to the merchants I hope they add a toggle switch option. Like in the options menu Merchant confirm off/on. It would get dang annoying IMO to see a confirm popup everytime you sold.
(any typos I apoligize I work nights and I just woke up ............must find coffee)
(any typos I apoligize I work nights and I just woke up ............must find coffee)
snepp
Like a couple mentioned already, a simple undo button for the last transaction would do wonders and would likely take care of the vast majority of mistake sales.
As for myself, I keep my id/salvage kits in the lower right hand corner of the first bag, i leave the belt pouch and the third bag empty, while keeping my valuables in the last bag. Biggest mistake I've made was selling a fully-charged ID kit.
As for myself, I keep my id/salvage kits in the lower right hand corner of the first bag, i leave the belt pouch and the third bag empty, while keeping my valuables in the last bag. Biggest mistake I've made was selling a fully-charged ID kit.
Studio Ghibli
I made this suggestion back in beta. 
Sigh. ;(
Sigh. ;(
snepp
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I made this suggestion back in beta.
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Algren Cole
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While I do emphatize with your situation, I would recommend that you stash the really valuable stuff temporarily in your vault before going to the merchant to sell stuff.
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I'd never play the game again if I had to confirm every 5-30gp pice of crap I sold
M Dew
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I normally keep my salvage kits in my belt pouch and do not sell past them. Then if it is something I want to keep I move it down into one of the bags. you might have to sell some then rearrange again to sell more but it helps.
Though I started this with the expert salvage kit on the left so it is the first to get "sold", I tried changing it with the basic one but then salvage runes with the basic kit DOH! 400g compared to 100g for repurchase sucks to. Having a confirmation on gold / purple / runes / customized would be nice. Nothing like swapping weapons out and then selling your secondary weapon (That kick ass no req bow) to the vendor. |
I do pretty much the same thing. I will use my Id kits/salvage kits to seperate stuff I keep and stuff I sell. Or I just put all the good stuff in the 2nd bag and always uncheck everything except the first bag in the merchant window. And if items tend to over flow past the first bag. I will ID and sell everything in the first bag. And then move the junk items that overflowed to my other bags back to the first bag. ID them in my inventory window and sell'em. I had to figure out something after I sold a superior Vigor to the vendor awhile back. lol
So I think alittle message/warning window might be a good idea for rares/runes.
Dawns Tide
I don't mean to bring an old post out of the grave, but what about a Buy Back Feature?
Loviatar
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hell no
Sagius Truthbarron
Just organize your inventory. Put everything you want to keep in the back, ones you want to sell in the front, and things that are impossible to delete inbetween.
Markaedw
I do feel for you, but we have given some good advice, take it.
I'l use my necro set up she has a combination of wands, of hands and staffs.
1. Deah wand-grim cesta
2. Cursed wand-icon
3. Cursed wand-55 icon
4. Blood staff-20 symbol
why do I have a symbol with my staff, the symbol doesn't do any good in combat, but the weapons and off hands are stored in my last bag, which is unchecked. So as I change between weapon sets, each weapon and each off hand is repalced by one in the last bag, so all my weapons and all my off hands are either in the bag or carried, none ever appear in the pack wich is where I sell from, hence I never accidentally sell the item that uber weapon.
Another way is to put some that can not be sold, like gwens cape,
keep, keep, keep, keep, keep
keep, cape, sell, sell, sell
so when you hit a lag spike the sell will stop at the cape, you can't sell past the cape with out using you mouse to skip it.
The bag uncheck is the safest way, I have only once sold something I didn't want, and that was because I checked the bag.
I'l use my necro set up she has a combination of wands, of hands and staffs.
1. Deah wand-grim cesta
2. Cursed wand-icon
3. Cursed wand-55 icon
4. Blood staff-20 symbol
why do I have a symbol with my staff, the symbol doesn't do any good in combat, but the weapons and off hands are stored in my last bag, which is unchecked. So as I change between weapon sets, each weapon and each off hand is repalced by one in the last bag, so all my weapons and all my off hands are either in the bag or carried, none ever appear in the pack wich is where I sell from, hence I never accidentally sell the item that uber weapon.
Another way is to put some that can not be sold, like gwens cape,
keep, keep, keep, keep, keep
keep, cape, sell, sell, sell
so when you hit a lag spike the sell will stop at the cape, you can't sell past the cape with out using you mouse to skip it.
The bag uncheck is the safest way, I have only once sold something I didn't want, and that was because I checked the bag.
i8yourparents
lol ive doen this a couple times too.and i fouund a way to fix it. just put a "spacer" in you inv.i use a dye anything below the dye can be sold anything above can not.but if there was a confirmation thing i think selling would take too long
Tainek
i found a simple solution to this, i keep a quest item (unsellable) in my bag, this acts as a wall between sell and keep
Loviatar
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i found a simple solution to this, i keep a quest item (unsellable) in my bag, this acts as a wall between sell and keep
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UNCHECK THE BAGS SO NOTHING IN THEM CAN BE SOLD.
SnoopJeDi
Wintersday items can't be sold either, fwiw. I usually use a gingerbread focus as a block item.
Zakarr
Confirmation dialog would be just another annoyance. Perhaps a better solution would be toggleable item status switch where you can give quest item status for wanted items so they can't be sold or even drop.
Kybos
In Arizona, Cox is waaaayyy better than the alternative (Qwest)! I love my 9mb down and 1mb up connection. 
I have never had any issues (except for billing with my phone service) with Cox.
I have never had any issues (except for billing with my phone service) with Cox.