Guild Wars Cinematic Trailer

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Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

TX

i really liked it, thanks guys

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Originally Posted by Spooky
Realistically, there's an approximately negative 500% chance
Ouch, you just hurt my math brain....lol

let's go with 2^-500 to spare other heads from exploding

Rizzen Khalazar

Rizzen Khalazar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Salt Lake City

That movie is awesome!

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

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Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

R/A

The graphics were great, But as also the 2003 video, it sounds like a spoof, piled over with that it looks like a spoof.


This makes me a bit questioned, I wonder, the game is so original but those two videos not only seem to leach off of LOTR and The Matrix but they seem like childish remakes.

Im only stating my opinian, but they are embarising to watch, even when there are no people around.


However the 2004 and 2005 were very good!

BunnyMaster

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Holland

Army of Fairies

R/N

Very, very nice. I just viewed it for the fifth time (in 20 minutes :P ) and it's still impressive. The characters move so fluently and freely, really like in a movie. And yes, I am aware of the fact that you can't dualwield or fake something while summoning a spell.....

I'm really doubting about playing a fem ele. This movie doesn't help at all: first the armor (what armor ) and now the moaning during casting.

Aladdar

Aladdar

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Join Date: Jan 2005

I think if dual wield is implemented it needs to be part of a new assasin type profession.

Manderlock

Manderlock

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TX

Crimson ScS

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aladdar
well I just assumed she was in ascalon due to the surroundings. It could be in... nevermind, can't talk about that.

omg how can you say that, now that will be wracking my brain.
you are a very mean mean man

Holy shit thats all i can say after watching that, that was amazing

LoneDust

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Was this Cynn?


Any relation with Takeshi Kaga from Iron Chef? You decide!

p0t4T0

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Or Die Trying [ODT]

W/Mo

Seeing that has made my day, that was fantastic!

-p0t4T0

Vanquisher

Site Contributor

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Herts, UK

One Hitter Quitters [QQ]

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Originally Posted by LoneDust
Was this Cynn?


Any relation with Takeshi Kaga from Iron Chef? You decide!
Can't compare without the pepper in her hand. Sorry.

Nichos Katran

Nichos Katran

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Eternal Knights

N/Me

Wow....just....wow


Ok, Arenanet, new idea.
Invest in the movie industry and make that a full length film! That was the best CG movie I've ever seen, but it's too short!

Eh, eh....think about it I think everyone here would see it in a heart beat :P

*EDIT* Or how about another one showing a Necromancer?

Adaria

Adaria

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

Wayward Wanderers

E/Mo

Yay, I'm downloading it now, thanks alot!

Whats with the sudden FTP thing on GW? I thought they were just normal download things... hrmmm... lol oh well at least I get to see the viddy finally.

I shalt return to share my opinion of it... 81% done...

RustySword314

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

Thumbs up!

Shrapnel_Magnet

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Pirate?

Join Date: Feb 2005

British Columbia, Canada

Idiot Savants

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I agree with Spooky. Dual Weilding would feel tacked on, so dedicating a character class that specializes in it or something, would make more sense.

However, I really hope they don't add "assassin"-esque characters. Seriously, I love a ninja as much as the next guy, but it's the last thing I'd want to see in Guild Wars. Sure, we already have warriors, rangers, spellcasters, necromancers... I mean, nothing too original here, but I do like their implementation. An assassin character in an expansion would feel like they were just /kneeling to kiddies, personally, as opposed to an original design idea.

I'd rather see a character who uses 2 weapons at once be something like, say a Fanatic... like a character along the lines of tribal, heathen god, worshipper. Drawing from a style like that seen in the Bone Shield, or the Ram's Hammer. I dunno, I'm pulling at nothing here, but maybe the typical "Fast at the expense of armour" type character. We already have warriors, sure, but I see plenty of parallel characters like the Mesmer/Elementalist/Necro... all magic users. Only 1 strictly melee character. Not sure if that was totally coherent, but whatever.

Who knows... I'm just not a big fan of a ninja/assassin character for Guild Wars.

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

You know, the NPCs that were in the Cinematic had better armour in-game then us. How sad

On the side note, the elementalist was Cynn, warrior was Devona, and the ranger was the Duke guy in Fort Ranik.

I liked the cinematic for the cinematics sake, but it also gives a false picture to those who have not seen Guild Wars. And while your going to sucker in some people, your going to get the same feedback from the more experienced crowd taking the Blizzard path, that the cinematic is not even close to the real thing.

But it was a good cinematic for the cinematics sake. The voice acting was average, acceptable but nothing close to what Blizzard can buy, but more like what the starcraft modding community has grown to be. Those three characters have nearly nothing to do with the story, and all three of them are never seen after the searing, unless they are hiding somewhere.

The only gripe I have with this is that it overemphasizes the story, something the game in beta has currently not shown to be a strong point.

Overall though, nice job.

Synthos

Synthos

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Join Date: Mar 2005

I LOVED that movie, it gave me tingles! I was actually pleasently surprised i didnt think that areanet had the capacity of doing this sort of CGI sequence. I really like this, can we have cinematic Wensdays instead of wallpapers The movie was quite dramatic, now if only Guild Wars was that dramatic Common guys! You should make a movie about what Guild Wars is really about! Dancing naked in Lions Arch!

One more thing.. Theres LAVA in the trailer, Please please please make a volcanic area to explore! With eruptions and lava that catches you on fire...
And now i know where the hell the 3 charecters on my Guild Wars poster come from.

Dreamsmith

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Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Tunnels of Doom on their TI994a
Yes! Man, I shudder to think how many hours I spent playing that game. Hell, I shudder to think how many hours I spent just waiting for it to finish loading off the tape...

(Great, now I've got the Tunnels of Doom theme song stuck in my head...)

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Originally Posted by Xellos
...and all three of them are never seen after the searing, unless they are hiding somewhere.
Isn't everyone? Granted, I haven't been keeping the kind of notes I should, but I swear I've bumped into just about everyone from KoA in RoA, usually hanging around in places like the Sanitarium, or somewhere in the explorable areas...

Kirbie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

oh my...........
cinematic trailers!!!!!!
ive been sooooo waiting for this

*i think im in love with ArenaNet *

...
just watched the cinematics...
*speechless* period . made me super happy lol
cool matrix fx
watching couple more times...

Orbit

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Great Movie! This may hold me over until next weekend.

Who I'm I kidding? Me need more, got to have more.

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsmith
Yes! Man, I shudder to think how many hours I spent playing that game. Hell, I shudder to think how many hours I spent just waiting for it to finish loading off the tape...

(Great, now I've got the Tunnels of Doom theme song stuck in my head...)


Isn't everyone? Granted, I haven't been keeping the kind of notes I should, but I swear I've bumped into just about everyone from KoA in RoA, usually hanging around in places like the Sanitarium, or somewhere in the explorable areas...
You see guys like warmaster tydus and prince rurik obviously. But not those three, at least in the main city or anywhere that's linear like the missions. You'd probably have to find them, if their still alive. The cinematic is just to go OoOoO like the WoW cinematic. Has no real value other then coolness.

Armaio

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

nice VID! I'am truly excited.

Sin

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

The Joint :p

Great "cinematic!" (Elite hollywoodspeak for quality "anime." )

Seriously, very well done! Thank you for posting it at the main GuildWars site. And thank you Mr. Weekes for backing up the original expeditious thread creator Shrapnel_Magnet. Sure beats hearing about this from a friend who went to some movie or one of my Korean WarCraft friends (It would appear this will be shown at theatres.)

Sure the trailer is not how the game plays, so what? Our cars don't shine like they do on commercials or last as long as we were told they would. Windows is on it's X^infinity symbol iteration--and we pay for each one that "got rid of over X thousand+ programming bugs" and it still has it "features" pop up in a window here or there, usually from some incompatibility with another microsoft product! However I bet the most accurately represented consumer product is the best example: Auto Insurance. Maybe we should talk about how well they deliver on the policy you are required to have and pay for monthly only to "adjust your claim?"

All I am suggesting is to try pretending you know nothing about GuildWars when you watch the trailer and ask yourself, "if I saw the trailer would I wanna find out?" Think about that friend of your, the WOW user who naysay'd GuildWars. Do you think that trailer would get them to take a second look? See most of us are sold and have been following this for a while, we get intimate and knowledgeable infos from the admins, alpha testers, beta testers and other site contributors. So do you really think Arena.net is making a movie to get us interested? No offence intended, just some info to consider. I mean we got a chance to see the next part of the campaign to bring more people into the game, the success of that is something I would hope as GuildWars players we all want.

Just saying, if the criticism means to be constructive maybe it should be considering who this is addressed to--those who are, or almost are, without any knowledge about Guildwars through-to-those who know about the game but didn't look into or put off GuildWars since they heard about it 6 months ago. Many of which may be questioning their monthy fee for WOW or waiting for some other game that is delayed and forgot about GuildWars.

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epinephrine
That's sorta what I was implying. Not the North American mature gamer audience who grew up with pencil and paper gaming and played Tunnels of Doom on their TI994a...(or Bard's Tale for a less obscure reference). The flying through the air sword in back move just struck me as silly. Wasn't trying to start a fight, just commenting as I know that the GW folks read these and they might want to know that it wasn't universally appealing - was trying to be a bit constructive by mentioning why.
That makes no sense.

Read this post, but this issue is irking me.

A cinematic trailer is as the name says - its a trailer to the game. When you see a movie trailer, it is trying to entice you to go watch a movie. The same goes for a game cinematic - people enjoy [I do, and I don't have any Korean bloodline] watching the game they play in much more vivid and detailed 3d animation.

This inspid, stupid, and borderline racism has *GOT* to stop. If you have a beef of suppoused preferred treatment between one country or another, take it up with Guild Wars. I WILL NOT stand for these undertones being introduced into the forums. There is NOTHING about that trailer that makes it tailored for a specific market.

Furthermore, take your holier-than-thou persona and take it somewhere else. I would be surprised if even more than 15% of the North American mature gamer audience played paper and pencling gaming or used TI994a. If you wish to gush about nostalgia, got somewhere else. This is a fansite for Guild Wars, and thats it. Enjoying your own ego-centered moral superiority because you used to play games on paper and pencil will NOT be tolerated.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

remember this was gotten off of a asian site not a north american site

Gaile said a different one would be available for us next week

hopefully that one will be more realistic as how it relates to gameplay

i am thinking of the person who knows nothing about the game buying it on impulse after seeing that and saying

*not only cant i make a flying leap attack i cant even jump*

Jia Xu

Jia Xu

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Join Date: Apr 2005

England

Dynasty Warriors

Mo/E

awesome CG movie. Nuff said.

Dreamsmith

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Minnesota

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
remember this was gotten off of a asian site not a north american site
It's on some Asian site? I got it off of ArenaNet's Official US site.

Loviatar

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Join Date: Feb 2005

the initial one was a korean site and we were told the blue box on the right was for download

it was then mentioned it was availablefrom the GW site

post number 2 this thread

Sin

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

The Joint :p

Loviatar good point about the flying leap attack. Please consider along this thinking that, so far, that isn't possible. The game isn't realeased yet. Considering too the impulse purchaser, well, he's not so committed to the trailer as he might not have seen it until after (to only whine and gripe about what isn't identical to "game play" sure) yet, he also knows about the expansions, what they can add, etc. like we all do. If nothing else the cinematic represents in animation, and overall aesthetics, game development goals. I said that in sarcasm but there is an element of truth to it.

By the way was the animation done in Korea and maybe that explains why it was there first? I know the market there is a convenient scapegoat, and a likely one, yet release there first might just be the order of production or market timing for the trailer to be most effective.

Manderlock

Manderlock

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

TX

Crimson ScS

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i have to agree with inde, any form of racism is wrong doesent matter if its in your face or under the table. if you didnt like the movie fine post what you didnt like and be done with it, just try not to spark a topic such as this. this site is for the game no need to bring in outside real world issuse such as racism.

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
That makes no sense.

Read this post, but this issue is irking me.

A cinematic trailer is as the name says - its a trailer to the game. When you see a movie trailer, it is trying to entice you to go watch a movie. The same goes for a game cinematic - people enjoy [I do, and I don't have any Korean bloodline] watching the game they play in much more vivid and detailed 3d animation.

This inspid, stupid, and borderline racism has *GOT* to stop. If you have a beef of suppoused preferred treatment between one country or another, take it up with Guild Wars. I WILL NOT stand for these undertones being introduced into the forums. There is NOTHING about that trailer that makes it tailored for a specific market.

Furthermore, take your holier-than-thou persona and take it somewhere else. I would be surprised if even more than 15% of the North American mature gamer audience played paper and pencling gaming or used TI994a. If you wish to gush about nostalgia, got somewhere else. This is a fansite for Guild Wars, and thats it. Enjoying your own ego-centered moral superiority because you used to play games on paper and pencil will NOT be tolerated.
I highly doubt the cinematic was to lure customers. If it was, it's not going to. Look at it logically, it's impossible the way it is, beyond a few people who get schoolgirl about any game with a nice trailer. These days, all trailers are nice, but rarely any have relavence to the game. This one doesn't.

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By the way was the animation done in Korea and maybe that explains why it was there first? I know the market there is a convenient scapegoat, and a likely one, yet release there first might just be the order of production or market timing for the trailer to be most effective.
So their alluring to the animation freaks. That makes sense, but it could've been done better, ala Naruto fight lol. Would've been hilarious

Kirbie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

after watching the cinematic trailers x amount of times...
i feel like try out a warrior sometime
my main would still be a monk though

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
the initial one was a korean site and we were told the blue box on the right was for download

it was then mentioned it was availablefrom the GW site

post number 2 this thread
Which simply strengthens my post. As I stated crystal clear - moral superiority over any other nation, be it slyly or publically, will result in a goodbye notice.

Sin

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

The Joint :p

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xellos
Look at it logically, it's impossible the way it is, beyond a few people who get schoolgirl about any game with a nice trailer. These days, all
trailers are nice, but rarely any have relavence to the game.
May I suggest you might wanna not be gender bashing either?

Also, it's funny to me that "...beyond a few people who get [extremely enthusiastic] about any game...." and "...all trailers are nice, but rarely any have relevance to the game" first off admits the absolutely "spend without thinking" market the entire industry is appealing to (and hoping we all become ). And secondly admits the effectiveness of this kind of promotion is considered absolute by the gaming industry as a whole.

Logic is not generally regarded as the most effective method to entice people, unless of course you are selling a TI994a!

Just find it interesting how well we see the obvious and yet argue against it as though it isn't there. Meant in humor only Xellos.

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

Hey, NCSoft made Lineage, what'd you expect.

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

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Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

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Hmm i guess no one else thinks it is alittle corny.

I watched it again, this time in full screen, no differance.

The characters look cool, i like the hair animation better then The Incredibles.

And the effects were nice.

[Sarcasm]But wow, who would have figured they'd be fightin on a bridge over a moat of lava, not me.[/Sarcasm]

You got the graphics and tech stuff down, now just make it more professional.

This IS intended as constructive criticism.

Kirbie

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

cinematic trailer was very well done
one part caught me an attention though
a female warrior looked brave...except...when she screams(when enemy grabbed her by neck)
that part gave me a feeling that a "brave" female warrior was afraid for her life.
just a thought
overall...very well done movie

Dreamsmith

Dreamsmith

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Minnesota

Beguine Guild [BGN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirbie
that part gave me a feeling that a "brave" female warrior was afraid for her life.
"Brave" does not imply "so utterly stupid one can't comprehend one's own mortality".

On the other hand, she does appear to be a warrior, and that does sort of imply...

Xellos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

No Idea

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sin
May I suggest you might wanna not be gender bashing either?

Also, it's funny to me that "...beyond a few people who get [extremely enthusiastic] about any game...." and "...all trailers are nice, but rarely any have relevance to the game" first off admits the absolutely "spend without thinking" market the entire industry is appealing to (and hoping we all become ). And secondly admits the effectiveness of this kind of promotion is considered absolute by the gaming industry as a whole.

Logic is not generally regarded as the most effective method to entice people, unless of course you are selling a TI994a!

Just find it interesting how well we see the obvious and yet argue against it as though it isn't there. Meant in humor only Xellos.
Uh no. If you haven't caught up yet, most companies are doing cookie cutter marketting tactics. Uber-trailers is just one of them. Any company with a brain can figure out that cinematics with no relevance only deter in market sales unless your game is a very general-type game such as super mario. Guild Wars is not.

Want an example? Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. You'll be hard pressed to find hair animation like that, and it sucked.

You think companies that follow this trend do well without making a nice game? Fat chance. About the only company that can pull this off and get away with it is Blizzard. SoE? Ha, their servers are empty. Linage 2? Where's your customers now?

Console games are about the only thing that can pull off meaningless trailers since their aimed at younger audience, that mostly can't figure out quality from quantity.

If they were doing so well, they would be raking in cash, and making better games, not going near bankrupt. Companies that follow this are just finding a cheap way to sell their game, since they obviously can't think of a way to make the game better with the resources at hand. Why do you think more and more things in media sell sex? Sex sells still. It's one of the only things that doesn't need to be relavent to sell.

Manderlock

Manderlock

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

TX

Crimson ScS

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsmith
"Brave" does not imply "so utterly stupid one can't comprehend one's own mortality".

On the other hand, she does appear to be a warrior, and that does sort of imply...

yes, but a true warrior would have just been glarring the whole time. i mean honestly can you see a male warrior scream like that, no. i think that whether the warrior is male of female souldnt matter both should have the same mind set and both would have been glarring holes through that ugly mugs head.

well hehe i didnt exacly read your entire post sorry

this is a good time to say remember kids dont do drugs

Sin

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

The Joint :p

xellos, I apologize for my post. It wasn't intended as recieved. I should hope the topic of the cinematic would reclaim it's space hereafter.