hi every one jsut brought a new gfx card it seems fine apprently on everythgin else but after playing guild wars in a mission area or an were else u can fight. after a lil while i eather get an err message or i get the BSOD (blue screen of death) and then reboot but i was wondring if any one new any known issus with thie card or any one else that has this problem that new of any way of fixing it becuse its just frstrating now i cant play at all for more then ide say max of 45 min with out my computer crashing or my game getting an error
Thanx if any one helps.
Crashing Gfx Card 6600 GT
kuji
Principa Discordia
Firstly; Is this the AGP version? If so, did you plug in a power lead from the power supply unit into the white molex connector on the graphics card? This is critically important.
Secondly; If it's not an AGP graphics card, or if the lead is plugged in properly, then is the card itself radiating a lot of heat?
Secondly; If it's not an AGP graphics card, or if the lead is plugged in properly, then is the card itself radiating a lot of heat?
kuji
yah the fan power cables pluged in im not taly silly 
yah its the apg virsion ive been scanning forums all day found ou tthat a LOT of people have this problem also its not just that it scrashes when i go to enter missions the image for the missionis totaly scrambled im using a suggestion on one of the other forums atm to use older drivers for the card apprently thay work better. but ive yet to see a diffrance yet i ahvent had a blue sccreen as of yet but i ahve scrashed onece .. the computer its self seems quite cool and the card dosent seem to be produseing a major amount of heat no so im not sure its an over heating issus.
yah its the apg virsion ive been scanning forums all day found ou tthat a LOT of people have this problem also its not just that it scrashes when i go to enter missions the image for the missionis totaly scrambled im using a suggestion on one of the other forums atm to use older drivers for the card apprently thay work better. but ive yet to see a diffrance yet i ahvent had a blue sccreen as of yet but i ahve scrashed onece .. the computer its self seems quite cool and the card dosent seem to be produseing a major amount of heat no so im not sure its an over heating issus.
Principa Discordia
That's weird. Have you tried the Forceware 71.24 driver? That's worked for a lot of people with similar problems.
kuji
yah i tryed that to ive been suggested to try the 67.03 drives quite old but thay have worked slightly.. i dont get blue screens any more but i still freeze when ide of tended to blue screen insteead now, i know im getting an error but my games frozen infront of the error and all i can do to get rid of it is hit esc twice witch of corse closes the report ...... and also somthing i didnt add i dont tink is when i enter missions the spash screen with the pritty pic is totaly scrambled and jumbled up dont no if that tells u anything. but im really stumped.
Bushmins
I have one of these and its been no problem.
My drivers have not been updated for approx 1 month, maybe its the new drivers?
My drivers have not been updated for approx 1 month, maybe its the new drivers?
kuji
nah becuse im useing ht older drivers now the 67.03 ones. mind telling me if u know what drivers your running and i could give them a try i gess.. the card came with drives but neather of thos make it any better infact one of them makes it really bad.
Principa Discordia
Just out of curiosity, are you using a driver cleaner like the one from www.guru3d.com before installing different drivers? Not doing so could give you the same problem or similar problems every time.
kuji
yah ive jsut resently started yousing it that MIGHT be why the new drivers didnt work befor but the problem is i installed the newst drivers befor ANY other driver at all so that wasent it its miffed me totaly.
Principa Discordia
Okay, good. I always tell people to use that, it solves a lot of headaches. I'm just trying to think of anything else that could be causing the problem.
Just out of curiosity, what are your BIOS settings for the graphics card? There should be options for which AGP speed it runs at (4x or 8x) and which arpeture size it's using (64mB, 128mB, or 256mB).
I'm just trying to think of anything else that could be causing the problem.Just out of curiosity, what are your BIOS settings for the graphics card? There should be options for which AGP speed it runs at (4x or 8x) and which arpeture size it's using (64mB, 128mB, or 256mB).
kuji
oki now this question i dont know i got a good basic knoladge of stuff but i got my limits... howed i check out what it set to . but im pritty sure its agp 8... and its only a 128 meg card.
Principa Discordia
Okay, restart the computer and it should say "press DEL to enter setup" at the very beginning. When you do that, it'll open the BIOS, and it should say something about attached hardware and AGP settings somewhere. I'd check the specifics but it's 1am and I'm pretty under on medication right now, lol.
kuji
right i check that out and yah its like i thought its runing agp 8 and 128 is stocked right as well :/ i alsmost wish you were right and i was jsut being stupid lol
kuji
and also as i thought i just cleaned all the drivers off
and all there leftover bits and peaces tryed the newst drivers again and there totaly usless thay infact mess my desktop up so no hope in hell for games back to 67.03 now and hopfuly some one knows somthgn about this.
and all there leftover bits and peaces tryed the newst drivers again and there totaly usless thay infact mess my desktop up so no hope in hell for games back to 67.03 now and hopfuly some one knows somthgn about this.
Stayfrosty
ahh.. What kind of power supply do you have?
These new cards are fairly power hungry and if it is starving the 12V rail on your PSU you will get a bluescreen and/ or vidual artifacts. just my take as this happened when i got my 6800GT a new power supply solved it for me.
These new cards are fairly power hungry and if it is starving the 12V rail on your PSU you will get a bluescreen and/ or vidual artifacts. just my take as this happened when i got my 6800GT a new power supply solved it for me.
Principa Discordia
I'm back, finally got a little sleep (three hours, grumble.)
Stayfrosty's suggestion is a good one. Let us know.
Stayfrosty's suggestion is a good one. Let us know.
kuji
yah ive been told on another forum about my power supply not being up to scratch but i think it should be ok ... becuse my psu is a 350w
and this is what i got told from guildwars techys
instal sp2 that should work
lol nope that failed now have annoying new updates on sp2 lol
[Edit] sorry i ment 400w psu
and this is what i got told from guildwars techys
instal sp2 that should work
lol nope that failed now have annoying new updates on sp2 lol
[Edit] sorry i ment 400w psu
Infidelus
BSoDs are pretty much always driver/hardware related these days.
You didn't mention which OS you were running.
Check for BIOS updates for your motherboard.
Driver updates for your motherboard (including VIA 4in1 updates from via if it's a VIA board.
You might also want to run a test on your PCs memory. Grab a copy of memtest and leave that running for a while.
You didn't mention which OS you were running.
Check for BIOS updates for your motherboard.
Driver updates for your motherboard (including VIA 4in1 updates from via if it's a VIA board.
You might also want to run a test on your PCs memory. Grab a copy of memtest and leave that running for a while.
kuji
im running windows xp pro sp 2 now.... *grumbles at guildwars support for making me install sp2*
kuji
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BSoDs are pretty much always driver/hardware related these days.
You didn't mention which OS you were running. Check for BIOS updates for your motherboard. Driver updates for your motherboard (including VIA 4in1 updates from via if it's a VIA board. You might also want to run a test on your PCs memory. Grab a copy of memtest and leave that running for a while. |
Amd 2500+ withc is very strangly underclocking its self to 1.1 i cant fix that eva.
Mobo: asus VIA KT880 a7v880
400w PSU
6600GT agp
annd a normal sata drive with a soundblaster live. and a plane bod standred cd-rw so nothgin really amazing.
Infidelus
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im running windows xp pro sp 2 now.... *grumbles at guildwars support for making me install sp2*
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I'm not saying it's not without it's faults ... but it's a darn site better than XP vanilla flavour.
kuji
yah but i still liek sp1 were i control my cpmuter not MS :P
Stayfrosty
well SP2 wouldnt affect anything at all.. theres a possibility thats its your PSU, some no name brand ones at a 400 watt rating arent nearly as good/stable as a quality 400 watt PSU, would you consider buying a new PSU to see if it solves your problem? If you would consider this as an option give me your budget and ill try and hunt you down a good PSU.
aja
im running a 6600gt agp and my game runs beautifully :/ and i didnt use the new drivers till as of late, and they work fine too. gl though
Principa Discordia
Hey kuji, could you possibly take the case off of your PC and check the sticker on the side of the PSU for us? I'd like to know what amperage is written on it for 12v. This is very important with modern hardware. I always suggest 18A minimum, or even better a dual 12v.
kuji
i think u might of jst picked up on a slight problem i might have i think mines a 16a if theres such a thing i dont know much about PSU's never had the problem to worry about it. i'll see ifi can find the exact one i have on the net
kuji
right ive found the PSU i have im pritty sure any way its the chepest one off overclockers.co.uk i dont really have much choice in useing it i dont have any money. to get a new one. 
litraly no money at all not even enuff for food shoping right now :S
http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13023
litraly no money at all not even enuff for food shoping right now :Shttp://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13023
kuji
so no one no ideas or has every one run off hehe
kuji
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BSoDs are pretty much always driver/hardware related these days.
You didn't mention which OS you were running. Check for BIOS updates for your motherboard. Driver updates for your motherboard (including VIA 4in1 updates from via if it's a VIA board. You might also want to run a test on your PCs memory. Grab a copy of memtest and leave that running for a while. |
[update] i turned off the auto reboot. jsut so i could see wht the blue screen was caused by and its deffantly my vid card drivers.
SO.. ive tested it now with a lot of drivers and so far ive found no problem with the 67.03 drivers BUT it still crashes in guild wars . jsut not blue screen . AND i still get this nasty bug were im entring a missions and the spash screen is compleartly scrambled
kuji
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Wotdahek
Hiya kuji,
Most likely it is a heat related problem, amd chips run hot and if the agp card is near the cpu it could really build up. Does your casing have an extra fan for air circulation?
Try poking a regular electric fan near your cpu to see if it helps.
Hope this helps.
Most likely it is a heat related problem, amd chips run hot and if the agp card is near the cpu it could really build up. Does your casing have an extra fan for air circulation?
Try poking a regular electric fan near your cpu to see if it helps.
Hope this helps.
kuji
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Hiya kuji,
Most likely it is a heat related problem, amd chips run hot and if the agp card is near the cpu it could really build up. Does your casing have an extra fan for air circulation? Try poking a regular electric fan near your cpu to see if it helps. Hope this helps. |
Dirkiess
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well infact its NOT a heat problem and sorry amd's dontrun any were near as hot as the p chips i have 4 fans in my cace one on the gfx cand one on the cpu its not a heat problem
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Have you checked your RAM latency timings? If not, you need to see which brand and model number you have and hunt down the latency timings. This is then adjusted in the BIOS.
It could well be a problem with the memory not storing the information correctly if the settings aren't running at there optimal settings and then the information comes from the graphics card and is causing the corruptions to occur.
The only other option i could suggest, is to swap out the card with a spare you may have or borrow a friends card and see if that resolves the problems.
Just remember to uninstall the drivers and use driver cleaner before putting in the new card.
kuji
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Have you checked your RAM latency timings? If not, you need to see which brand and model number you have and hunt down the latency timings. This is then adjusted in the BIOS.
It could well be a problem with the memory not storing the information correctly if the settings aren't running at there optimal settings and then the information comes from the graphics card and is causing the corruptions to occur. The only other option i could suggest, is to swap out the card with a spare you may have or borrow a friends card and see if that resolves the problems. Just remember to uninstall the drivers and use driver cleaner before putting in the new card. |
Dirkiess
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well my cpu isent running the right speed atm its a 1.7 running at 1.1 duflt becuse my mother bored woill not let it run higher i cant do anything to change thatam and thuss teh ram dose the same thing. ive had a technistion look at it and he didnt even know what was wrong so im goning to try and get a new motherbored from the shop i got this from becuse i think its totaly ****ed
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Custom, fixed, By Spd etc etc?
Make a note of all the settings and add them in here for us to look at. We may be able to help you.
Also, what BIOS version are you running?
Addition - I found the BIOS details for your Mobo. Seems the search function doesn't seem to be working properly on the ASUS website. At least I hope that is the problem you were having in trying to find the Bios updates. Here you go.
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...s&model=A7V880
Hope this helps.
kuji
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When you go into the BIOS, what does it say in the CPU settings?
Custom, fixed, By Spd etc etc? Make a note of all the settings and add them in here for us to look at. We may be able to help you. Also, what BIOS version are you running? Addition - I found the BIOS details for your Mobo. Seems the search function doesn't seem to be working properly on the ASUS website. At least I hope that is the problem you were having in trying to find the Bios updates. Here you go. http://support.asus.com/download/dow...s&model=A7V880 Hope this helps. |
and secondly heres a list of EVERYTHING in my bios useful or not.
Chipsets:
North Bridge
DRAM TIMING
DRAM clock auto
DRAM TIMAING AUTO BY SPD
DRAM BUS SELECTION AUTO
PRIMAY GRAPHICS ADAPTOR AGP
V LINK 8X SUPPORTED ENABLED
V LINK DATA 2X SUPPORTED DISABLED
AGP MODE AGP8X
AGP READ SYNCHROIZATION DISABLED
AGP FAST WRITE DISABLED
GRAPHICS APERTIRE SIZE 128
AGP MASTER 1 W/S READ DISABLED
AGP MASTER 1 W/S WRITE DISABLED
JUMPER FREE CONFIG
CPU MULTIPLE AUTO
AI OVERCLOCKER TUNER STANDARD
SPREAD SPECTRUM ENABLED
ASYNCHRONOUS FREQUENCY DISABLED
DDR REFERAJCE VOLTAGE AUTO
AGP REFERAJCE VOLTAGE AUTO
VCORE VOLTAGE AUTO
Algren Cole
jump your CMOS and restore your BIOS settings to default.....
though I think the problem is the 16a on the 12v for your PSU....
though I think the problem is the 16a on the 12v for your PSU....
kuji
no point jumping my bios really not gonna help due to the fact that ive tryed already meeny meeny meeny times
[update] I found somthing on the ass forums that gave me a tweak to make the newst nvidia drivers work and now i ahve no funny lines on my desktop and stuff BUT my games still crashing and mission splash screens still dont work
[update] I found somthing on the ass forums that gave me a tweak to make the newst nvidia drivers work and now i ahve no funny lines on my desktop and stuff BUT my games still crashing and mission splash screens still dont work
kuji
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Dirkiess
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1. Up the AGP Aperture size to 256 and then 512. Ok, you might be wondering why, but I remember an article I read some time ago, that also said increasing the size to double or Quadruple your Graphics Card memory size can actually help with performance. Also, the guy that did this, had a similar card to yours if I remember right, with 128mb. He increased it and it fixed his problem.
2. The other option is to do with your DRAM timings. You will need to check the make and model of your Ram and then look for the dram timings on the web. Then add these into your Dram Timing options. You will need to change the Timings option from auto to manual/custom and then enter the details in the correct settings given in the Bios.
They are just two options that you can try for now.
Only try one at a time as changing too many things at once, never shows you what was actually the cause of your problem.