Something must be done !!!

rofl @ capes. the capes are so freakin ugly is ridiculous. I refuse to join a guild that has a cape...i'm not wearing that shit over my pretty druids armor

when we have trade off it is for a reason. WE DO NOT WANT TO TRADE!!!!

it amazes me how people cannot get a very simple concept through their thick skulls.

i am all for banning repeat offenders. it is really very simple and has to be put into simple terms for the folks out there who flat out refuse to do things the right way.


ifyou do not follow the rules and make up your own you should be banned. there should be no room for debate on the subject. there are a million players who want to enjoy their game, if they wanted to trade they would have their trde chat on.

ban the abusers maybe they will learn a lesson.
(but most likely will just whine on how unfair it is that they were banned.)

so all in all it lookslike it bothers most people. i am glad and i hope Anet does something aboutit ASAP

I think some of those guys don't even realize there is a trade channel.

I will sometimes point out that sellers and buyers might have better luck using the trade channel, after which things quiet down a little in the general channel.

There are a lot of mentally dimunitive people playing this game. They need a little help to push them in the right direction.

Now now, no need to insult. Last thing I heard, the only thing most people could agree on is that people are stupid. There really aren't any exceptions. =-}

If the damned ignore feature worked, that would help a small amount. I haven't logged in in over a week, but the last time I put someone on the ignore list, I could still see their chat in the general chat channel. If I /ignore someone, I don't want to see their text EVER in ANY channel. Hopefully they will one day have something important to say and no one will hear them because everyone /ignored them, the bastards.

Where does it say that anyone has the god-given right to trade?

If only there were merchants, or even a special channel where people could buy and sell their stuff.... oh, wait a second.

If there were a merchant of some kind where I could "purchase" a group, you would never see me "lfg" anywhere, anytime, on any channel. Then I'd only have to keep team and guild chat on.

The addition of an Item Trader/Upgrade Trader will solve the problem. Personally I am thrilled that ANet is taking the positive additions approach to solving problems rather than the defensive approach (i.e. with the chest botters in Seekers, don't remove the chest, just add more mobs between city and chest).

With the trader additions almost all weapon sale spam will go away. This will solve the need to have an ongoing support issue of reading all of the /reports and banning players which does nothing but upset your customer base (both having to file a /report and by the person being banned/warned).

well i just had to erstart this topic lol. when i originally posted it it seemd as if most of the problem came in the bigger cities along they way.

i have recently discovered that this very very annoying habit of people posting trade in local chat has permeated through the eintore game now.

last night in Hell's precepice (sp?) there were maybe 20 people total in town waiting to find a group and there were no less than 5 people trying to trade in loacl chat just spamming away with their crap. when i politely asked them to stop and use trade chat all i got was "no one looks at trade chat.so i will post where i choose"

of course i answered that if no one is looking at trade chat they just might be giving you the hint that THEY DO NOT WANT TO TRADE!!!!

after thinking for a while this one guy says back to me "if you do not like it then turn off local chat" at that point i just put the guy on ignore because if he was either too stupid or self centered to know that loacal chat is realy the only way to get a group i had nothing more to say to him.

i am seriously starting to think that severe penalties must be implemented to stop this nonsense from happening.

What an ASS, haha. You're trying to make a group in the last mission town of the game, and some jerk off is spamming trade.

This happens in every single city. Everyones argument with lions arch is dead, spamming useless trade crap in mission towns is a real problem.

I see people spamming the Local channel with WTS, and WTB, but I also see people spamming the Trade Channel with LFG. This needs to be stopped before there are two channels that are everything.

it is utterly rediculous, and the problem is only getting worse by the day as thre is no penalty for doing it.

Anet must implement something to try and curb this rampant abuse of the chat system. I do not know exactly what but there are much better minds than mine out there that can come up with something i am sure

I don't know if this was brought up (I didn't real all the posts...shh.), but it may help for you to look for groups in districts other than 1, 2 or 3. Not that I advocate the use of the all channel for trade, but you have to realize that the 1st 3 districts of both Lion's and Ascalon have been, are, and prob will be continued to be used as major trade hubs due to the horrible trading system that this game has.

Instead of trying to contact Anet to whine about trade in the all channel- write them asking for a better trade system. Honestly, that's the only plausible soloution in my opinion. Asking people to stop doing it is a losing battle.

I for one don't go to the districs I know I have no chance of a LFG post being seen, and trust me, alot of people know this as well. So, try going to Dis 5 for that Villainy group you're looking for.

Maybe you should have read just a little bit of the thread before posting?

Instead of trying to contact Anet to whine about trade in the all channel- write them asking for a better trade system. Honestly, that's the only plausible soloution in my opinion. Asking people to stop doing it is a losing battle




lmao whining? this happens in all areas in every district read the thread not just the first couple of posts.

lmao whining

i say, if they are gonna spam trade in the all channel, why not just chat in the trade channel. look for groups in the trade channel, cuz the pretty colors will surely attract the groups.

joking aside though, maybe they should make a group channel where you can post LFG/LFP etc...

Adding new channels really won't fix anything, thats what the trade channel was supposed to do. If there is no rules then how can there be any adhering to the rules? The current channel system relies on self-policing, which generally (and unfortunately) doesn't work very well

Ok... let's just FLAME someone for the use of a particular word and completely IGNORE the content of his message. Perhaps if you would read what he said it would make a little bit more sense. Here, let me spell it out for you: Instead of bitching about it why not try to find a permanent solution.

Yes yes, I know trade spam in outposts is a problem, etc etc etc, but sitting here and being a jackass to those that are actually on your side is not the way to fix things. And the funny thing is you've been a jackass all through this thread.

our guild has no cape.. but we wanted to get a hall.. and you need a cape to do that. *sigh*

I am going to write this again.

the EULA we all signed states that there will be no spamming. any use of a chat channel for anything other than it's intended purpose it SPAMMING.

therefore it is a violation of the EULA and a bannable affense.

i hope that makes it clear to you now

( i hate having to state the obvious all the time)

Yea, that comment would get me really angry too.

First, Anet reads the forums. Check the forum leader list and you'll see two people, one from anet, the other ncsoft.

Second, by coming to these forums and expersing the difficulites he's having with the ingame trade chat, he's doing something about it. He's already found other people that have the same type of problems with trade chat and even inspired people to suggest ways to fixing it. Anet will see how many people are having problems with chat and trade, they will see the suggestions and they will do something about it.

I'm sure Anet welcomes everyone to e-mail them about their problems and suggestion. But no one should discourage the thread maker from experssing himself, especially when the majority of this thread agrees that something should be done to fix trade and spam.

That's the thing here. Very few people are disagreeing with him, yet he feels the need to flame those that do agree with him. He's flaming someone who, granted didn't read the thread to see that what he said had already been stated, agreed with him. And that isn't the only person he flamed who agreed with him. I fail to see how stating that asking people to stop isn't going to help the spam situation is disagreeing with the OP, yet there it is... he's calling people morons for the use of a single word. Yeah, that's really how to get any sort of support whether or not someone agrees.

the peopel who get flamed deserve it. wether they agree or not is not the point. everyonen who was flamed had suggestions like "go to another district" or, "yea i know it sucks but we have to deal with it"


to those people i say BS. we should not have to deal with it at all. it is in all areas and districts now, and has become like a plague.

and by the way your calling someone a jackass is not real helpful either and only makes your posts about anothers flaming worthless.

Listen up.

These are community forums. They survive and thrive because of the community. A community that insults each other has a bleak future.

We encourage threads that take a hard look at the game and suggest improvements. As I've said many times in the past, we're not Arena Net, we can't implement any changes, but we can provide a forum to collect your opinions.

However, when those opinions become rants, tirades, or one-sided bullying, they cease to be productive.

Please keep your posts constructive, or they will be deleted. That includes the TONE of your post, which is critically important to getting your point across. If you'd like a lecture on tone, I can talk with a few writing professors and get some material together for everyone to read. Otherwise, watch how you say something as carefully as what you say.

Name calling is just the tip of the flaming iceberg, but it's a pretty good indicator that a thread is degenerating.
If you see a problem with a thread, report the post or PM a mod. Or PM the offending poster and "point out" the issue. Don't rile them up by calling them names, that just makes more work for the mod staff and will not help the problem at all.

Tone people, tone.

I'm not sure where you live, but in america there are a few things called freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and YOUR OWN OPINION. My post complies with all of the above freedoms, while your post is nothing but a flame, post something useful or dont post and save yourself from looking like an ass.

ok, not to pick on rhedd in particular, but heres the breakdown....

has anyone on this topic ever in their life had a garage sale, yard sale, estate sale, etc..?

im guessing since more than 1000 people a day at least look at this forum the answer is yes...

lets say its your garage sale, you just graduated form college and you need to sell some of your old furniture because you are getting married and already have a sofa, lounge chair, kitchen table, etc...

you put up signs on street posts? you put up signs in store windows maybe? hell you might even put up a sign in the post office... now how is this situation any different than someone going into the local channel and putting up 1 wtb blah blah, or 1 wts, blah blah. i admit, again, i even said this in my original post, yes people abuse this. but the only reason they do do it, is to maximize their chance of selling their item. and half the people on here flaming me for putting up my Honest to god opinion about the matter at hand have done the exact thing they are bitching me out for. so next time some of you want to make a post make sure its got some useful information in it, or maybe even a thought out response to a debate question. or whatever the scenario is, make sure your post is relevant to the issue at hand and not just a...

O M F U G! theze stupidz noobs are doing somethingz i dont like for shizzle im gonna call him a name!!!!!

or however you people like to post...

yes this was a rant/argument for my sake... no i didnt mean to personally insult anyone ( that would be a flame )

oh, and sorry for the double post ( ill look in a second but in some forums i go to there is a post delete button... only for your particular posts but its a handy tool someone might think about scripting in )

Whoa...I'm sorry people actually chat in towns? I turned mine off after after hearing enoug of people spamming thier wares, and offering exploitave Drokars runs... I good to go having fun..you?

If there was someone monitoring the ALL chat so they can warn and even remove trade and spam messages, then an evenvorment could be created where people can chat and conversate in towns.

I remember I went into town one day after an update to TALK about the update, couldn't, people just spamed shit, especially trade. It was a real let town. Heres a world with 1000's of people, and I can't even talk to them cause of spam.

I know, unfortunately you're talking on deaf ears. I think the game cool, and really pretty don't get me wrong. But it's a clear example of 'let's give the people exactly what they want' and they abuse the $%^& out of it.

I'm expressing my opinion, same as you. It's a useful opinion, not just a flame, regardless of the fact that you are cursing me and calling me names. If a majority of people want something to be a certain way, then it can be made to be that way, if Arena Net agrees.

Freedom of speech doesn't count inside a proprietary world. You make a big deal about how you comply with freedoms: what does that even mean? Am I breaking some law of free speech that you aren't?

Don't get all uppity just because some people don't like how you do business. I have as much right to say I don't like how you do business and intend to boycott you as much as you have the right to do business that way unless Arena Net stops you.

OK. That's probably the last I'll comment on your threads, except on accident. I'll probably forget who you were, after all.

actually if you re read my post ( i doubt you even read it the first time since you oh so horribly missed the point, or just read it wrong) i never cursed( unless you were referring to the " ... save yourself from looking like an ass. in which case yes i cursed but it was not my intention to use it as a curse word, but only to use it as an example of what some people call a donkey or a jackass) and i never actually called you any names, i said...
1. make your post worth it, not just your opinion which actually is just a flame no matter which way you cut it. try and make it an actual debate, not just in my opinion....(like my post i said i can see why people are annoyed im just saying some people are freakin out over such a small thing)
2. make your post count so you dont look like an ass, not YOU ARE AN ASS... which would be a flame, and yes you do have a right to call me names... you shouldnt have to because this is a healthy argument. calling people stupid or telling them they suck because they think something would make you a bigot, no matter what you say your post was, its plain and simple, you would be a bigot.

oh and since you didnt get the freedoms thing i was saying im free to my opinion just like you are to yours, but calling people stupid or telling them they suck is not an opinion it is an insult and a derogatory comment.

oh and another thing, if a certain countries laws dont apply in proprietary worlds, why is there a chat filter? or an age restriction? i thought the game had to be made compliant to fcc regulations for american production.. id call those laws that apply to proprietary worlds... so why not freedom of speech, etc...

i think this is my last paragraph, i never said i do business this way, i dont believe, and i dont deny that i have never done it....i said i believe i know why people do it... and i have a question for you, if you still remember who i am, have you ever, EVER, said wtb wts wtt whatever abbreviation for buying selling trading, any kind of commerce or trade in the local channel, if you have then you need to reasses your arguments, flaming poeple for something you have done is called hypocracy and it is a very very bad thing to do

no one else has any argument or a name to call me? well im insulted :P i was just looking back through some of my posts and saw this and realised its been like a week or 2 since anyone has posted on this.

i thought id bump it and see what happens 0_o

well a month has passed since i start this topic and the spam in local chat has gotten even worse. it now extends sometimes to dist 20+ it is more than rediculous how anet does not seem to care that this annoyance has gone beyond reason.

join us in the international districts. There are generally atleast a few people looking to quest and there's NO spam in the chat channel.


I believe arenanet will address this problem in the next update. God I hope they spent their time doing something more productive than nerfing protective bond. A new trade system should have been top priority.

yes you are correct there my friend. and i do a lot, however ther eis no reason why we have to run away and hide from the local chat spammers.

someone bring out the banning stick