GW already dying off?

When it come to the favor of the gods, I think this hits the spot. Also since they added the ability to group more based of languages helps they have a double age sword. It allows for the cultures to more be grouped together and separate from each other yet chance to be more collective as a group.

I strongly feel this should be implement and I think they are starting to in fact one of the patches mention about more GvG matches off of ladder rank and it would not surprise me if they are developing it further as we speak.

The Asian cultures are far more family / group oriented compared to united states individualism. As for cheating, Gw is one of the most cheat resistant games by design if they find ways around have the tools to quickly fix and ban people (as in recent Ascension bug) and the more randomizing to fight bot problems.

In Final Fantasy XI, good japanese parties are far more numerious then good american parties due to there culture and working together where americans tend to be me me me.

As to people losing interest, Gw is going to wax and wane. You have the initial "new" that draws the people to the newest game out there.

If your only in to PvE and you beat the game twice, your likely to put the game away until the next expansion (which by the hint about stuff in the upcoming patch notes about ascension stuff and not forgotten in the work to prolong interest).

I only see Gw suffering if an competitor can come up with a competing product that can match Gw (which I don't see at this time). Just issuing a price drop on the game would get a flood of new people too.

I personaly gladly pay $50 for my PvE. I've spent this much on other non-pvp games and usually beat them and move on.

Actually they could program some healer bots that can gauge on your health they did it in lineage 2 you could have 1 acct running a bot off walker as a healer and your second a main and the bot would follow you and heal you etc
trust me it can be done healing wise damage wise i dont think so unless the bot was made to assist a certain player than again when i look at it it can be done either way lol

I once lost to the lamest "hax" in HoH.
Someone said something like "To get the über Healing Ankh, press Alt-F4"
About 3 members of my team fell for it-.-

_Zexion

I'm guessing that alot more teenagers play GW than adults right? Teens seem to have more time on their hands, since adults are mostly working (I'm not saying alot of adults don't play). So wouldn't it be obvious that alot of players aren't online as much because of exam time? We (ya I'm in high school) usually start preparing for exams with a month left of school (ie. end of may/beginning of june). Hopefully this solves your question.

Well, one of the occasions was a result of Smite Hex, but what I mean is that nothing happened when i used stuff on that person.

Hey, maybe I'm just an idiot but I still have a strong feeling that a lot of Koreans cheat.

Guild Wars is fun! Other games are not fun. Play Guild Wars!

not from what I can see. i still can't get into districts because they are full and I find my self starting in district 37 or sum shit all too often. American servers. Now I have some Guild mates that reside in Europe and sometimes we play on the international district which is really low on players it seems.

Ya, I go into international, I see zero people there, yup 0, so then I see a person and type in the 'all' channel "sup" then he goes "wow, finally a real person in this district!"

So, I partied with him and we had lots o fun, I found out what time it was in germany at that specific time and I managed to calculate what time 15:50 was

i think Guild Wars will die off because of the reason that most players are gonna get ganked hardcore in PVP

fact is, you cannot succeed in Guild Wars PVP unless you happen to be in a very organized, knowledgable Guild full of dedicated players who come online all the time

most players do not fit into that mold. once they realize that the chance of having any success in PVP (without first being in such a Guild) is virtually zero, then they are going to quit the game

and even if they can organize a good PUG by fluke once in a blue moon - that doesn't help either because to do that usually takes 1hr+ and then after you've done one match, the group disbands because people have to go. hence the casual player is left having to go through that incredibly boring, agonizing, time-consuming process all over again every time he wants to do one single match of PVP

hence they will get frustrated and quit. soon it will be only the hardcore PVP players left in Guild Wars

easiest solution to this problem: put in 1vs1 PVP that lets you get all the same rewards that the other PVP mode gives you (fame etc.)

that would be good but what about a warrior/monk vs. a warrior/monk that might take a bit to complete also might get borin quick... some chars are better against other characters so if you vs the character you are bad against then you're screwed... BUT yes I do see teh good of depending on yourself!

Well, you just gotta admit, koreans are hardcore gammers. Just like what Santosh said, Koreans have an Elite gamming culture. Their minds are so stragetic with all of the gamming knowledge that they have. They are pretty much the competition in PvP with us anyways. Not only that, but they have players with, like what? gold medals in playing games? who knows. Being 1337 core gammers is in their blood. Probably runs in their families too. =]

lol good point

Interesting fact: Korea has more residential broadband connections as a percentage of the population than any country in the world.

kewlio, never knew that before... hey do you have any interesting facts on mongolia love that place!! No clue why though...

Mongolia... best BBQ?

nope, no clue why, but MONGOLIA, I mean I got books outta the library on mongolia

EXACTLY!!!! whether you wanna use the term racism, or stereotype(yes, much prettier) its all the same, you all talk on and on about how magically wonderful anyone from the korean server is, yet somehow people in the servers with such enormous disadvantages, like our primitive computers, and our horrible selfish attitudes still manage to win quite often, geez i guess their hacks quit working at a certain time of the day or something, or maybe they watched an american show on tv and their society instantly disolved.... either way, thank god we found a way past the super-race of videogame genious hackers......

I had a guild battle vs. koreans and for some reason when I smashed him with my best combo moves and it seemed it didnt do squat dmg...

was it buffs... armor... strategy what?

you got it on the first try.


buffs... armor... strategy

lol kk ty just curious

Reversal of fortune is one aspect on a warrior. you are wailing away on him and all you are doing is healing him... They like that alot. aegis is another. and heal party, mending, ... with 2 monks in a 8 party group you can pretty much make any member of your party almost invincible... If you see them getting attacked you focus on them... reserving some Smiting for your defense of course. the koreans are masters of this technique... when you see 3 warriors and 3 monks and ANYTHING else for the other two. your toast unless you know how to focus party attacking and healing power... Koreans use the spearhead technic and its effective. keep practicing... We took em before, but it is normally a long match...

Dying? Not sure, i've been playing for less then a month. Can't really tell what's happening. Oh and about Koreans beign better, the only ting I notice is that I have never seen a Korean henchmen team in tournaments. As for America, some seem to have lotsof time to waste, and giving free victories away...

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Semi-bump. I want this on the front page for a while.

re: rats fleeing the ship, it's definitely obvious. While some of us are hardcore addicts and could stare at television static for weeks at a time... most of my BWE friends are gone. Maybe 1/8th remain. Even new friends since the week of 04/27, maybe half are gone. A month ago, I'd logon at any given time of the day and the list would be 90% online, now it's 3-5 people usually.

Of random missing people I know their AIM or one of the GW friends or guildies-- Does BlahBlahBlah still play? Did he stick me on ignore cause he thinks I'm an elitist jerk? "Nah, he's bored. He plays once in a while. He's playing [insert other game here]" What about SirBlah? "He quit. Gave me all his stuff, wiped his chars, and gave the account away."

Let's ponder some types of leavers:

BURNERS: 500+ hours already, playing 8+ hours a day, putting all other gaming (and most normal life activities) on hold. They've burnt out on it already. That's normal, it's a game's attention span / content life cycle... hyper-condensed. They might come back, if you get some new content before their A.D.D. brains totally forget the game existed. From what I can tell, this is why most PvE guys are already gone. There's nothing for it. It's the way of things.

COMPLAINERS: There's something they didn't like and it never got fixed. Game crashing, disconnects, lag being a the most serious forms. They are pissed, they won't come back for any reason. Content or gameplay complainers might come back, but how to notify them it's not like that anymore?

TASTERS: They tried it, they didn't like it. Probably tried to like it, just couldn't. Not their game. They won't be back for an update.

SHINYNEWBS: That's old, man. It's been out like two weeks. I'm done. HEY! Have you played [newgame]? And check out [newgame] it rocks, but I've been playing it for two days, so time to move on. They definitely won't be back.

FILLERS: Not my game, but there's nothing else out right now I'd rather play. Once [mygame] goes gold, I am out of here. Never to return.

NOTIMERS: Life occurs. I now have something better to do. Might be back, but it's not controlled by content or updates.

OUTCLASSERS: As it's been stated, you want to be competitive in PvP you need to work at it. HARD. Separating people by level isn't really a good way to do it, but it's not easy to separate by skill level - good players can fake being bad to play anywhere. Well, anyway, unless it's playbalanced to their liking they'll not be back. These guys are bored and frustrated and do drastic stuff like give away their stuff and rant anti-GW posts on forums.

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I'm sad over my missing GW friends, because it gives the illusion the game is dying off. But look at the stream of noobage. if even 1/10th of these clueless monkeys becomes a useful player... I have doubts, being an elitist jerk, but time will tell. I don't think overall it's "dying" just yet.

GW's slowly dying. You can tell this by looking at your guild's roster, empty friends list, and xfire's gw spot.

Also. . . it's summer. A lot of the (again teens for all I know) people go on vacation. A lot. Well, around my area anyways. For instance, my guild has 3 people here in their houses. Plus, a lot of games fizzle out for awhile after the first month. Don't worry about it. There's always a boost at the beginning. About the korean thing (though I think its been ended several times) they have the same rep any every game. I say: "Don't worry about it." Whenever I'm in a group, and someone says "Oh no, they're Koreans" I say, "Meh, We'll beat them." Say the same thing when they say, "Oh No, Elite Group who's won it five-hundred times in a row."

This is your first and final warning: If there are any more sickening remarks and blanket accusations about Koreans being cheaters and hackers then this thread will be locked. I am sick and tired of people attaching such a horrible stigma to an entire group of people just because some of them happen to be unnaturally amazing at gaming. Typical westerner thinking at work.

You tell em. Any group that posts derogotory statments causes my monk to leave in quite a hurry or charga and dye all the while apoligizing for my fellow countrymen who sicken me and that I hope they won/t judge us all by the idiotic opinions of some.

This always leads my group to defeat as they stop fighting an argue with me or contradict me. One time we had a 20 miniute discussion going in the middel of a PvP tombs match with the koreans leaving 1 Ranger/Warrior with no res signet left alive so that we wouldn't be forced to leave.

I now PvP with those koreans reguarly as they speak english and actually I have more interesting conversations with them and my european friends as they seem a lot less n00bish.

Hahaha this is funny. First we had a thread about Europe being 'losers land' and now we have people calling the Koreans cheats cos they win.

Keep it up people, reading this kind of stuff is amusing, although kind of unsettling also.

What a load of bull.

1) Koreas average test scores are WAY higher than americas (they don't need to cheat their just smartenough to no that all attacking the same dude wont work and to come up with a stratagey) and as for technology wise almost 75% of middle class Korean housholds have regular access to a high speed internet connection.

2) Yes they have the exact same things as we do and our top guildes and even pick-up teams can beat them on a regular basis as proven by how much we have favor (i'm in america). I have played with korean PUGs though and they will spend 20-30 miniutes talking stratagey and builds and how to make our skill sets complament each other. Then they do this amazing thing called following thru with the strategy that we came up with (some thing that many americans csn't seem to do)

As for your skills not doing anything there are many builds and skills that can stop this. Ever heard of spellbreaker? Blackout? A monk healing at the same rate that you cause damage? Reversal of Fortune? and many others.

too true.... we all wish americans knew about that strategy

I don't know anything about korean players, but I can tell you this: you'll know when there's cheats available for GW, 'cause then eastern-european teams will start to win. A lot.