GW 2003 vs 2005

Garric

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Have a look, I'm so fricking angry with you guys. ALL OF YOU. Word's can't begin to describe it.

Ancalagon06

Ancalagon06

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

In my pants of "superior strength"

Royal Orrian Foreign Legion

W/N

? why are you so angry?

Quintus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

The first time I saw that first picture (about a month before E34E), I had nothing to go on concerning Guild Wars' quality, but I still wanted to play Guild Wars instead of Knight Online. That is how seriously bad Knight was/is.

(Luckily for me, though, Guild Wars turned out to be a good game.)

Ancalagon06

Ancalagon06

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

In my pants of "superior strength"

Royal Orrian Foreign Legion

W/N

wow...well, that tells me just how bad KO is. but what's the deal with the second picture?

Jwh6913

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Death Infernal Evil

Mo/R

wow looks like the art dramatically improved be glad for it.

anyway, he's upset cuz it's not just people standing around, and chatting and going oooh friendly community, and now it's all about trading and noobs

Ancalagon06

Ancalagon06

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

In my pants of "superior strength"

Royal Orrian Foreign Legion

W/N

seriously?

edit: calling the difference between GW 2003 and GW 2005 a "improvement" is like calling jessica simpson "slightly easy"

AKA a huge understatement

DarrenJasper

DarrenJasper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Like every MMO on the market, ever. You expected this one to be different in terms of social interaction... why?

Jwh6913

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Death Infernal Evil

Mo/R

heh I'm an understated person

I try not to embellish cuz you can get in a heck a lot of trouble with exaggaration

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

Anyone else still not understand what this topic is about?

EmperorTippy

EmperorTippy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caco-Cola
Anyone else still not understand what this topic is about?
I don't if you find out let me know please.

That thing about a picture being worth a thousand words should be rewritten to this. A picture witha an explanation or caption is worth a thousand words.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

ROFL that made me lol.

Seriously, was that GW back in 2003? I thought it was a lot better when I played Ascalon in E3. Wait that's 2004 @_@ god damn...

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
Originally Posted by EmperorTippy
I don't if you find out let me know please.

That thing about a picture being worth a thousand words should be rewritten to this. A picture witha an explanation or caption is worth a thousand words.
it CAN be worth a thousand words. this ones only worth three to me...



mind explaining Garric? i'm not able to make the connection here....

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madjik
it CAN be worth a thousand words. this ones only worth three to me...



mind explaining Garric? i'm not able to make the connection here....
I'm sure there are thousands of words expressing "WTF"

Aaaaagh

Aaaaagh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Garric, how about some clarification, you have me intrigued.

*Note If you are gonna try to get me to buy a car or something, Im gonna be peeved!!

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
I'm sure there are thousands of words expressing "WTF"
your right, but thats not what im getting at. What i'm getting at is "What is HE getting at"?

and just to cover my bases here, I ment no offense. I'm mearly confused.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

There's already a club for that, would you like membership?

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

whats your problem?

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I'm not sure. Do I need one?

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

just like everyone else... I'll just post nonsense to keep the thread bumped until Garric comes back to explain what the hell he's on about. I mean, he went so far as to post pics to support his point... now we just have to wait for the point.

Caco-Cola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

College Station, TX

Kansas City Hotsteppers. Hawt!

What the hell are ya'll arguing about?

Gah this is more frustrating than the PuG I had a few minutes ago.

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
I'm not sure. Do I need one?
I'd hope not. For a moment there I thought you were flame~baiting me. I can see now your just playin. As for the confusion club, "i'm not just a member, im the president".

Quote:
What the hell are ya'll arguing about?
So far as I can tell there is no argument.

Garric

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

It is irony. First you look at GW 2003 and see how crappy it was. Crappy colors, textures, models, etc. You realize that GW2005 looks almost ten times better. You click on the 2nd picture to compare. What do you see? A bunch of items, like one would use as an auction. You were expecting a picture that showed some graphics off, didn't you? But you see a bunch of loot, what this game is all about, what you have made the game into.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I now understand completely and feel his anger as well.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

It wasn't about Graphics either though. So that's pretty invalid.

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garric
It is irony. First you look at GW 2003 and see how crappy it was. Crappy colors, textures, models, etc. You realize that GW2005 looks almost ten times better. You click on the 2nd picture to compare. What do you see? A bunch of items, like one would use as an auction. You were expecting a picture that showed some graphics off, didn't you? But you see a bunch of loot, what this game is all about, what you have made the game into.
Well, every MMO i've ever played ends up the same way. Loot loot loot. I dont honestly think its possible to break that mold...at least not easily. If you've played any other MMO's besides this one i'd think you'd be used to it by now.

It's really not worth getting upset over IMO.

Garric

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jwh6913
wow looks like the art dramatically improved be glad for it.

anyway, he's upset cuz it's not just people standing around, and chatting and going oooh friendly community, and now it's all about trading and noobs
An early poster got it pretty much. You should have listened to him.

Aaaaagh

Aaaaagh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

GW is what you make it. If you want a friendly community to stand around and chat with, make a guild.

Obviously the masses dont want that, since thats what we have been driven into.

Garric

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaaaagh
GW is what you make it. If you want a friendly community to stand around and chat with, make a guild.

Obviously the masses dont want that, since thats what we have been driven into.
THATS WHY I HATE YOU ALL. DIE! BURN IN HELL!

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

*bursts into flames*

Ow. Did Gwen come through here or something?

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garric
THATS WHY I HATE YOU ALL. DIE! BURN IN HELL!
My my arent we edgy? If you dont like it find another game.



chill out man.

Red Locust

Red Locust

Site Contributor

Join Date: May 2005

Maybe what he's getting at is that in 2003, GW had a nice community going despite the ugly graphics, which is represented by the happy-looking environment and cheerful characters who seem to be going about their daily business with not a care in the world.

Whereas now, it's more focused around suffering and anguish. The exp scroll represents the suffering required to grind through the exp needed for skill point acquisition, while the scorched lodestones represent the burden of having to go through the scorchingly back-breaking labor required to get all the items needed (like for example the 242 wood planks).
The rest of those items represent the frustrating occurence of finding non-perfect modifiers and having to farm even more in order to find the best mods.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it
It's pretty late and I probably had a little too much to drink.

Garric

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Locust
Maybe what he's getting at is that in 2003, GW had a nice community going despite the ugly graphics, which is represented by the happy-looking environment and cheerful characters who seem to be going about their daily business with not a care in the world.

Whereas now, it's more focused around suffering and anguish. The exp scroll represents the suffering required to grind through the exp needed for skill point acquisition, while the scorched lodestones represent the burden of having to go through the scorchingly back-breaking labor required to get all the items needed (like for example the 242 wood planks).
The rest of those items represent the frustrating occurence of finding non-perfect modifiers and having to farm even more in order to find the best mods.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it
It's pretty late and I probably had a little too much to drink.
Yes you are reading into it too much, and I had a little too much to drink too, but you provided me some humor in your post, unlike the REST OF YOU. I actually took a random image I could find of an auction and put it there.

E3 2003 people played a new game. A game they played for fun, since it was a 2 day event. They were interested in it and played it just for fun.. not for profit, farming, PVP hoarding, making fun of noobs, racism, L33T talk, scamming, bots, etc.

I can't believe.. something like this.. WAS RUINED!

Madjik

Madjik

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere, U.S.A.

Gold Pheonix

Nothing is perfect, nor will it ever be, for it is in the nature of humans to destroy. I'm sorry you feel this game is ruined for you.

And i'll leave it at that.

Kingofblades

Kingofblades

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Sad but true.. GW 2003/4 > GW 2005 in my opinion.

Sholtar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brethren of Arms

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garric
Yes you are reading into it too much, and I had a little too much to drink too, but you provided me some humor in your post, unlike the REST OF YOU. I actually took a random image I could find of an auction and put it there.

E3 2003 people played a new game. A game they played for fun, since it was a 2 day event. They were interested in it and played it just for fun.. not for profit, farming, PVP hoarding, making fun of noobs, racism, L33T talk, scamming, bots, etc.

I can't believe.. something like this.. WAS RUINED!
There are still people that play it for fun, and with some effort you can find enough of them to make a guild. That's why this game is better than MMOs. While it still follows the same rut of all the crap that players obsess over, it provides the ability to get out of that rut via guilds. Sure, any time you go to cities you'll be bombarded by idiocy, but then again... you can always turn off chat

Paladin_Adoni

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Cult of the Sacred Axe

W/Mo

you COULD abolish trading all tegether! (DONT DO THIS ANET!! PLEASE /beg)

Schorny

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Garric
Have a look, I'm so fricking angry with you guys. ALL OF YOU. Word's can't begin to describe it.
Do you know what's so funny? The funny thing is: you are one of those guys you hate. You are one of those guys that make it hard to PuG.

DrSLUGFly

DrSLUGFly

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

European Server or International

Trading is an integral part of every online massive multiplayer game (which this is, regardless of the label and definitions). You can't abolish it and it would be wrong to abolish it since trading is the draw and the actual game for many many people. There are loads that would rather trade than do missions and quests... nothing wrong with that, it's simply their style.

Shadow_Avenger

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Stolen Dreams

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Madjik
Well, every MMO i've ever played ends up the same way. Loot loot loot. I dont honestly think its possible to break that mold...at least not easily. If you've played any other MMO's besides this one i'd think you'd be used to it by now.

It's really not worth getting upset over IMO.
Its how the majority play these games. Some of it stems from the single player games where having the best items, most gold makes the game easier.
No true in GW once you ascend I must add. I have seen the samething happen to nearly every single RP mod for NWN, the only time it doesn't is if you have a small group and a closed private server.

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

This game is about loot?

*looks at his collector weapons*

*frowns*