Latest Nvidia Drivers Crashing Guild Wars On Exit

Jaaku Seijin

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Join Date: Apr 2005

13 Jul 2005 at 05:28 - 41
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirkiess
As a rule of thumb.

There is no need to install the latest Video Drivers if there are no overall problems with your current setup.

Most driver updates will give a fix for certain games and possible hardware/software related issues, and also a small overall performance boost.

I would always check the Drivers Updates before going with an install, if you are experiencing any problems, to see if this driver release fixes anything you may be having problems with.

Otherwise, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

maybe the ati drivers are made to only fix problems, but the nvidia drivers are always pushing the envelope, adding support for sli, and all the new tech that comes with there new products and supporting mobos along with many other things, including fixes. if you want the best, its essential to update with nvidia, cause they are always improving the standard not only with their hardware, but with their drivers as well.

besides drivers arnt based around games, games are based around drivers, so if nvidia updates and guild wars doesnt update accordingly to that, its on arena softs shoulders to fix, not nvidias. and i realize guild wars is ati perferred, but still, more people own an nvidia card, and they should see that as a problem to there game if over half its players game are getting crashes.




AMD Athlon 64 3200+
MSI K8N NEO4 SLI Platinum
1GB Corsair PC 4000
MSI Nvidia Geforce 7800GTX OC

provoko

provoko

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13 Jul 2005 at 15:04 - 42
Quote:
Originally Posted by turnkey1970
Instead of a blue screen I get a garbled mess of colors and squares.
Those are artifacts caused from overheating, over/undervolting videocard, too much video card overclocking, or you didn't do a clean install of video drivers.

The video card volts in bios should never be touched and should be at default, but I don't think you ever touched those settings, so most likely you're either overclocking, video card is overheating, or didn't do a clean install of video drivers.

turnkey1970

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17 Jul 2005 at 23:42 - 43
Well, I think you are right. I don't overclock, I don't take the chance with my stuff. The card I bought though is factory overclocked. Now I checked the core temp in their utilities and it was well within the safe range. I took the card out and replaced it with an ATI card, one of the 256mb Xtasy ones. I am now running in 1024 x 768, with 4x AA, and Guild Wars is a good looking game. Needless to say the company that made my original board has asked me to send it to them to see what the heck is wrong with it.

Zips

Zips

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22 Jul 2005 at 01:47 - 44
It seems like the crashing problem is fixed with the 77.76 beta drivers:
ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/77...xp_english.exe

Just try these if you're really looking for a solution right now. Otherwise, if you feel uncomfortable using beta drivers, you might as well wait for the next official release (whenever that may be).

Twila

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Ice Dragon

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25 Jul 2005 at 03:30 - 45
I’ve had very frustrating PC freeze and start up problems since the update.

It started with my mouse cursor going missing. Then over the next few days my screen pixels go awry with running multi coloured blocks and lines or blue screen pops up (nvd_disp in infinite loop), PC goes to ‘sleep mode’ but cannot be awakened, screen goes black/shutdown.

Most worrying of all is that I often cannot even boot up properly without windows freezing, screen going black (into sleep mode) or having funny distorted pixels. Following Anet’s support advice, I downloaded the latest Direct 9x driver and Nvidia drivers. Still the same problems occur although screen resolution has improved.

I will check which version of Nvidia drivers I’ve currently got and will try 77.89.

Strangely, I tried unplugging and changing my mouse and initially thought the PC boot up problems were solved. But no, the next day I still encountered boot up problems

Any ideas please?

Hewlett Packard PC
Pentium 4 3.0
19” LCD monitor
1 GB Kingston memory
Nvidia low end graphic card (64MB)

Night Daftshadow

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25 Jul 2005 at 03:41 - 46
im sticking with 71.89 until nvidia fixes this problem with an official driver.

emirate xaaron

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sotu

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25 Jul 2005 at 12:03 - 47
i only have troubles if i minimize the game,otherwise no crashes. it's annoying as i have to use the new drivers for battlefield 2.

Vorlin

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25 Jul 2005 at 22:43 - 48
I'm running a GeForce Ti-4200 with 64 megs using the 77.72 certified drivers, and the problem I have is that at the video card at some point seems to receive a 'shutdown' order from GW, because the game doesn't crash (I can hear it playing correctly in the background) but my display goes black and my monitor goes into standbye mode (i.e. it's not receiving a video signal). Extremely irritating because I have to pull the power plug out to shut the computer down.

No other game I have causes problems, and this is a very generic card, my drivers are updated, and this is happening with irritating frequency (some areas of the game really set it off).

I hope ANet and NVidia can get together and figure out what the problem is, because nothing takes the fun out of a game faster than having to repeat a mission over and over and over because of a crash bug. :/

P4 2.4 Ghz, 512 meg ram, GeForce Ti-4200 64 meg graphics card, windows settings are 'let application decide', very vanilla, no overclocking.

michiel9

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28 Jul 2005 at 11:49 - 49
Hi guys,

Guess I'm in the same boat here... glad I'm not the only one, I was beginning to think it was time to RMA my 6800GT :/

My system:
WinXP PRO SP2
P4 3.2 (Northwood)
2X 512 mb pc3200 ram (Twinmos, running 2.6 v)
XFX 6800GT 256 AGP vga+dvi (currently running 76.45, gives me the least amount of glitches)
TAGAN 480W PSU
All running normal stock speeds, good temperatures.

I tried the following:

-different forceware drivers
-ingame video settings
-Vsync on/ff
-various forceware-panel options, like highest detail textures
-fastwrite on/off, even different agp speeds
-Ran Memtest, all clear
-re-formatted once, re-installed GW twice

I get these occasional "tearing" problems across the screen, visible at certain angles and places. Thick flashing grey/black/green lines accross the screen.

Note that this machine ran both Doom3 and Halflife2, together with CS:S flawlessly. No graphical corruption in those games.

any ideas ?

Thorm

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Knights of the Tyrian League

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29 Jul 2005 at 19:14 - 50
77.72 crashed on exit for me to, but I found that if I window the application before clicking on the 'X' to close, that the application closes normally without the blue screen of death.

I needed the 77.72 drivers though, because the 71.89 drivers caused graphical corruption while playing the game.

Now I don't have that issue (check the 77.72 driver release notes page 16 referencing VIA chipsets to see what I believe my problem was) with the 77.72 drivers.

Driver Release Notes

Artemis Bladewing

Artemis Bladewing

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Mo/Me

29 Jul 2005 at 19:19 - 51
Ok I have the same problem too and it really bugs me, can some one tell me where to get old drivers cuz this PC is new and I want an older driver if those work better.

Terik Stoermshade

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R/Mo

29 Jul 2005 at 19:36 - 52
Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis Bladewing
Ok I have the same problem too and it really bugs me, can some one tell me where to get old drivers cuz this PC is new and I want an older driver if those work better.
You should be able to find old drivers here:

http://downloads.guru3d.com/

Be careful, some are beta drivers.

Dyeeo

Dyeeo

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29 Jul 2005 at 19:41 - 53
Get the 80.40 beta drivers. They are working for me great! http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1116

ProdigyXL

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02 Aug 2005 at 15:43 - 54
I have run into the same problem. I thought it was my hard drive, appearantly not. I bought a new 300Gig Seagate yesterday and saw no change. I've trie d the 71.89s, and another 77 series with no difference. Tried the 67.02, still happening. When I get home from work I will try the Beta 80s and see if that helps. Any suggestions? Here is a quick run down of my system

P4 3.2Ghz Prescott
Giga-Byte 8KNXP Pro Rev 2 (Tried Bios FJ, FD, and FH... no change)
Giga-Byte 3D Rocket Cooler Pro
2 Gigs Cosiar XLS or whatever
BFG Tech 6800 GT OC Agp (Various drivers, no change)
Audigy 2 ZS Platnium (Latest drives on site, April 05)
2 Samsung CDRW/DVD Reader
WD 160 Sata Cavair (Maybe good afterall, but I've removed it and replaced with...)
Seagate Baracuda 300 Gig IDE

I do not overclock any of my equipment. It is all factory settings. And I swear I hear my hard drive do something bad before it blue screens. Please help!

Marrik Havnor

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03 Aug 2005 at 04:01 - 55
77.72 blue screened on me but 71.89 keeps randomly crashing to desktop. I'm not sure why as this is the only game that crashes like that constantly.

Darkrouge101

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Yorba Linda, CA

Practicioners of Destruction

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03 Aug 2005 at 08:28 - 56
I've got this problem as well... just updated the drivers on my Gf 6800 ultra and it crashes my system about every 1 out of 3 times... causes a critical error in the computer and instantly restarts it. Fun

I've found that running it in Window mode cuts down on the crashing frequency... don't know if that helps anyone.

EternalTempest

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12 Aug 2005 at 18:13 - 57
It appears the new 77.77 (Official MS WHQL) drivers from nvidia has fixed the issue.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_77.77.html

The newer 78.01 are not MS WHQL for my card (FX 5700 Ultra) so not warm and fuzzy with them.

Fixing the Fields

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14 Aug 2005 at 10:36 - 58
I got the newest 77.77 drivers but my game keeps crashing, I think i'm gonna try the 71.89.

Gladiator

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Join Date: Aug 2005

19 Aug 2005 at 05:45 - 59
I didn't read all the posts (I skimmed though - but thats a lot of posts to read them all) - but if you want to keep the latest drivers, I've found that if you minimize the game and then right click on the game button on the start bar and click close you can close the game without it crashing. Personally I log out every time first, don't know if that makes a difference or not. This has worked every time for me.

Instructions:
1) Hit the windows key on your keyboard
2) After the game minimizes to taskbar, right click on the game button (on the taskbar)
3) On the menu that pops up, go up to close (its the first one from the bottom)

DaMuffinBoi

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25 Aug 2005 at 02:50 - 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirkiess
As a rule of thumb.

There is no need to install the latest Video Drivers if there are no overall problems with your current setup.

Most driver updates will give a fix for certain games and possible hardware/software related issues, and also a small overall performance boost.

I would always check the Drivers Updates before going with an install, if you are experiencing any problems, to see if this driver release fixes anything you may be having problems with.

Otherwise, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Well put. People always trying to fix things that aren't broken, and never fix things that are.

GenRabbit

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Join Date: Jul 2005

The Silver Eye

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25 Aug 2005 at 13:38 - 61
Quote:
Originally Posted by ProdigyXL
P4 3.2Ghz Prescott
Giga-Byte 8KNXP Pro Rev 2 (Tried Bios FJ, FD, and FH... no change)
Giga-Byte 3D Rocket Cooler Pro
2 Gigs Cosiar XLS or whatever
BFG Tech 6800 GT OC Agp (Various drivers, no change)
Audigy 2 ZS Platnium (Latest drives on site, April 05)
2 Samsung CDRW/DVD Reader
WD 160 Sata Cavair (Maybe good afterall, but I've removed it and replaced with...)
Seagate Baracuda 300 Gig IDE

I do not overclock any of my equipment. It is all factory settings. And I swear I hear my hard drive do something bad before it blue screens. Please help!
What powersupply? You'll should have a 450W (good Brand) PSU(Powersupply) minimum for this. Both your cpu & graphic cards puts tremendous strain on your PSU.

EF2NYD

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Join Date: Jun 2005

25 Aug 2005 at 13:41 - 62
I'm using the 66.81 drivers, only get crashes if I'm multitasking, which points to a memory leak somewhere (Guild Wars most likely).

GenRabbit

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25 Aug 2005 at 13:43 - 63
I never had problem with the 77.72 drivers on Guildwars on any of my computers. They have and 6600 and a 4600. No other game thou would start on the computer with the 4600 card with these drivers strangelly enough.

But i changed the 77.72 to 77.77 just to be sure on the computer with the 6600 card. The other run on 71.89

conker

conker

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30 Aug 2005 at 03:09 - 65
Just got the new one or w/e that came out ... Nvidia GeForce 7800.. dont crash fo me

Samurai

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30 Aug 2005 at 21:26 - 67
I used to have the same problem, but I think I've discovered the cause. Every once in a while, you'll see a small yellow lightning bolt on your screen. (On mine, it appears in the upper right corner above the minimap... not sure if it always appears in that corner or moves if you move the minimap). Watch for it while you're playing, especially when entering a new area, and you should see it. I believe it means that your computer is getting additional info from the server, or something like that.

Anyway, I noticed the last time I crashed upon exiting that the yellow lightning bolt had been lit at the time, so I tested it. I exited several times when it was not lit, and had no problem at all. Then I waited till it lit up again, hit exit, and it crashed again.

Since then, I just watch to make sure that the bolt isn't there when I exit, and I haven't crashed in weeks.

Darkwood

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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01 Sep 2005 at 23:14 - 68
I was so desperate at one time I even resorted to updating my BIOS, a system I otherwise avoid at all costs, and eventhough my driver was 2yrs old and the software could offer a brandnew driver my comp. went bezerk. Rolled back and learned my lesson.

Old Dood

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01 Sep 2005 at 23:46 - 69
Quote:
Originally Posted by franklyl
i try all the drivers .there is still something wrong with my gw,,,,,damn


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veni vidi vici
But, did you Clean Out your old drivers with a driver cleaner? Before you installed your newer drivers. Your computer's registry needs to be as well organized/mantained as it can be. Having older drivers and such loading up when you boot up can cause the computer to lock up at times.

This is why alot of people reformat their systems every six months. At least reformat once a year. It is the easiest way to clean up a registry by starting with a new/fresh one with the lastest drivers you need for all your components.

EternalTempest

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14 Sep 2005 at 06:07 - 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Warrior Dood
But, did you Clean Out your old drivers with a driver cleaner? Before you installed your newer drivers. Your computer's registry needs to be as well organized/mantained as it can be. Having older drivers and such loading up when you boot up can cause the computer to lock up at times.

This is why alot of people reformat their systems every six months. At least reformat once a year. It is the easiest way to clean up a registry by starting with a new/fresh one with the lastest drivers you need for all your components.
Agree with you, most upgrades replace everything but I've has some rare issues where leftovers really messed some things up. Downgrading drivers has a good chance of doing this.

May want to give this program a shot Driver Cleaner Pro - http://www.drivercleaner.net/ (freeware). Uninstall the from add/remove then run this program.

The only issue I've found it also wipes out *any* trace of the driver including the backed up / previous version stored (XP Pro) or the ms "default" ones if it could detect your card without installing the most current drivers.

Balrog1978

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28 Sep 2005 at 08:26 - 71
Pretty Usefiul Thread...

Thnx guys

Andariel Trueshot

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R/Mo

06 Dec 2005 at 09:40 - 72
(hmm posted my thread on the wrong tab...)
well, i have buyd a new videocard, geforce 5200 xf (128 mb)
and i have it installed on 2 computers, both crashes the same way :P
after a few minutes the all the objects start to turn yellow/gray enz.
realy enoying, and than the whole computer crashes! thought it whas my proscesor, but the other computer with high proscessor have the same problem to, so, can someone help me out plz?

VampiricuS

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Join Date: Nov 2005

N/Mo

10 Dec 2005 at 05:17 - 73
I am using 78.01 forceware drivers and im not having issues. and I wont update unless i read something that tells me that problems in regards to GW were specifically adressed. otherwise, why bother? my other games arent in real need either.

I have a 6800 GT

Autumn_Leaf

Autumn_Leaf

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Taunton, Mass.

13 Dec 2005 at 00:38 - 74
since i installedthe new card(6600) the game doesn't start right. the game downloads the map and horizontal line goes across the screen and the comp freezes. i tried all the drivers stated and did the driver cleaner b4 installing a new driver and the game still doesn't work. any one else having the same problem?

dudeofdahouse

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Join Date: Aug 2005

USA

W/Mo

17 Dec 2005 at 06:46 - 75
hey bro
try updates from manufacturer get the latest one and stick with it, nvidia has been acting wierd :[
peace out

Profitjesus

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Fabricati Diem Pvnk [PVNK]

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19 Dec 2005 at 12:26 - 76
I had the "Freeze" problem with the newer drivers (77.72 and up) too. I had freezes in intervals Between 10 min and 3 hours, which of course quite frustrating.
After installing 71.89 (whql version), I have been able to play 16 hours over four days with only one crash, which is ok by me.

System
AMD 3000+ 64
MSI nForce 4 Motherboard
1 GB Corsair RAM
MSI NX6600GT Graphics card

/Profitjesus

Uzul

Uzul

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Arctic Tundra

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21 Jan 2006 at 23:55 - 77
can it be that the 71.89 works for the most people?
edit# for the 6600gt - seen it not work for the geforce 5 cards.. but sometimes they did.
really would be interested in the cause for all the crashes.

i tried to get the ddo preview client running and well, in last 24 hours i tried more then 20 diffrent versions of the nvidia-drivers - for fun i tested gw on most of them and well - i get some nice memory exceptions with everything but the 71.89ers. the newer nvidia drivers are utter crap for my system.

/rerolling drivers YET AGAIN


btw: ddo client crashed with everything - lost too much time by now to catch up with my stresstest-progress (which ran just fine)


specs:
barton 2.2 (@11x200mhz)
2x512 mb corsair ddrram (@200mhz)
asus n8xe D nforce 2u 400
leadtek winfast 6600gt agp


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gw is finally working again!
the 81.89 drivers are working now. no clue why, but who am i? every other driver was crashing right after i logged into one of my chars. what i did: i completely wiped all nvidia drivers from my system drive and then cleared all my cab-files as well (driver cleaner be praised) -- back from safe mode i installed the 81.89ers, restarted and it worked again.
(strangely only gw was crashing when active rendering started, and i did this "driver-cleaning-process" when i tried the other 20 versions. ah well, the only thing that matters: gw is working again ^^)

Samara Blue

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XBX

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09 Feb 2006 at 11:30 - 78
I have the same problem, but I get a blue screen for about a second before the reboot. However, I'm almost completely unintelligable in the realm of drivers, so I have no idea how to fix it. These are the specs of my current PC copied from dxdiag and any small information i recall; (I know that much! ) If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it!


AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 3800+
2 GB corsair RAM
200GB Hard Drive
NVidia GeForce 7800 GTX

I saw someone mention display settings, so... I'm running at 1280 x 1024 (32 bit). And the driver info reads:
Main Driver: nv4_disp.dll
Version: 6.14.0010.7772 (English).

I hope that's enough info... Thanks to everyone for their help!

Bastard Son

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Bastahd Sons of Zeus

01 Mar 2006 at 04:12 - 79
Just wanted to report my experience. I used to run the 77.72 drivers and would crash on exit just like many other people here. I installed the 81.98 drivers just over a week ago and have yet to experience a crash yet... or any problems, for that matter. Just thought I'd share and hope it helps.

wahoyaho

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04 Mar 2006 at 14:56 - 80
I have the z-tweaked 82.12 drivers and everything's smooth as butter as well

peppermintt patty

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07 Apr 2006 at 14:45 - 81
has anyone found a fix? it just started crashing on me 2 days ago. ive tried all the other drivers with no luck

bpphantom

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07 Apr 2006 at 17:29 - 82
Aside from latest drivers and using driver cleaner after uninstalling and after the reboot... Sorry Sir.