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Update: 6/27/05
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MrWho
Just to mention, this is not the major weekly update, in case anyone is angry that they're changing so little.
That's later this week.
_jew
That's later this week.
_jew
Caco-Cola
Which exploit was this?
Adaria
I'm curious about this myself, I haven't made it this far yet due to my computer bug and stuff. Blah.
INFERNO2K
There was a wreckage chest outside of seekers passage which was able to be opened without any combat.
They added tons of devourers and hydras and storm kins in the way now.
They added tons of devourers and hydras and storm kins in the way now.
EternalTempest
hmm I love how the fact that they hide (and for good reason) the exact nature.
The whole 50k Xp Ascension Bug = Fixed XP exploit in Augury Rock.
Still don't know the details about it nor do I want to.
Keep up the good work Arena.net
I expect banning account message coming soon.
This wasn't posted when I was typing 
That awesome.
The whole 50k Xp Ascension Bug = Fixed XP exploit in Augury Rock.
Still don't know the details about it nor do I want to.
Keep up the good work Arena.net
I expect banning account message coming soon.
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There was a wreckage chest outside of seekers passage which was able to be opened without any combat.
They added tons of devourers and hydras and storm kins in the way now. |
That awesome.
DarkWasp
I hope they secretly nerfed the divinity one.
Dyeeo
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Originally Posted by INFERNO2K
There was a wreckage chest outside of seekers passage which was able to be opened without any combat.
They added tons of devourers and hydras and storm kins in the way now. |
Arrow Whisper
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Originally Posted by Digital Bath
Holy cow, has anyone been out there recently? I was out there for a few hours last night because I was bored and talking to people, and the amount of botters was ridiculous. It's not like you can't tell they were botting either. It was the same people going over, and over, and over, and over, and over, lol, all running in the exact same straight line they ran the last time they were there. Also, there was horrid lag, like 5-10 second lag every minute or less. You know botting is bad when it puts enough stress on a server (district) that it causes it to lag. The one guild I saw a lot of was [good], quite a few of their guild running on through there. Heck, I saw this one guy (Asdada Dad) run through there numerous times that it got to be comical after a while (especially while having some ale, yum!). For those that don't know, there are 4 weckages out there, 2 that drop 2-4 items a wreck and 2 that drop gold, between 50-150 gold. *sigh* Bots are getting out of control out there, and I hope they don't spread to other parts of the game en mase' like they are here.
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Deathlord
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Game Update Implemented 27 June 2005 We have taken measures to correct a map location that has been heavily exploited by those using bots. This update is not connected with the normal weekly update, which will take place later this week. |
. Does anybody have an idea when the Major update will be coming?
EternalTempest
I like the idea of having monsters around chests, makes me think what could be in the chest guarded with monsters (I do PvE mostly). More sense of adventure to it.
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More to the point make the treasure rewards more for chests and have them guarded with monsters. So it's worth while to get the chests.
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More to the point make the treasure rewards more for chests and have them guarded with monsters. So it's worth while to get the chests.
Loviatar
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Technically, they did explain that it was being exploited by botters, but they didn't explain the chest situation so it's still 50/50 on the Informative part. I'd rather them move the chests/take them out rather than sticking a army of mobs outside the entrance
. Does anybody have an idea when the Major update will be coming? |
sgtcurly
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I'd rather them move the chests/take them out rather than sticking a army of mobs outside the entrance
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Actually if I was working for Anet, I would have done the same thing. This way I could watch the bots go out to the chest and die, go out to chest and die, over and over again. This would absolutely verify that it is a bot and make it easier to ban them.
Eclair
I like that they fixed it, but Storm Kin? Oh gosh, I had enough of those when I had to go kill Yxyslothdkofjdlfj or wtvr for the ranger profession change quest T_T
Tactical-Dillusions
I emailed ArenaNet of a massive chest farming location and several names were forwarded to them.
I noticed one guy several times at town X coming in and out.
I got curious so i looked closer and i saw what looked like a whole guild there....at least 11 members of the same guild...doing the same thing. Only two of them were AFK, the rest must be amassing a fortune.
I showed my girlfriend the activities (she often watches me play) and even she saw it with her own eyes. "Look, [mr X] is back again!"
I started a chart to show how many times each of them was coming and going. Every two minutes for one of them.
I even pointed out to my girlfriend that the next time "Y" would return, the character (or bot) would nudge to the left on the way out, stop, turn, cross to the right, turn again and head on out. Sure enough, like clockwork, the bot did do EXACTLY that!
They even made stops to the merchant and storage ffs!!
Two of them in particular were very hardy farmers. They didn't hide the fact that they were bots but the others were more obscure but still followed a pattern, just resting after each stop for a couple of minutes.
In the end i had to stop making the chart because i felt angry. Only the thought of foiling their plans made the sicky feeling go away.
There were two other guys doing it who weren't in the guild but i could only remember the name of one of them to forward.
Identity? No, i can't say unfortunately but i know they are now being watched! It's always nice to get an immediate and personal thankyou from the powers that be.
Ban those disgusting botters...please make nerfing either temporary or non-existent. Us honest folk have been cheated enough.
I call upon the community to band together to keep ArenaNet working on expansions and goodies...not to be tied down with monitoring and nerfing.
Keep up the good work A'Net, you can be sure of the support of the community as always.
I noticed one guy several times at town X coming in and out.
I got curious so i looked closer and i saw what looked like a whole guild there....at least 11 members of the same guild...doing the same thing. Only two of them were AFK, the rest must be amassing a fortune.
I showed my girlfriend the activities (she often watches me play) and even she saw it with her own eyes. "Look, [mr X] is back again!"
I started a chart to show how many times each of them was coming and going. Every two minutes for one of them.
I even pointed out to my girlfriend that the next time "Y" would return, the character (or bot) would nudge to the left on the way out, stop, turn, cross to the right, turn again and head on out. Sure enough, like clockwork, the bot did do EXACTLY that!
They even made stops to the merchant and storage ffs!!
Two of them in particular were very hardy farmers. They didn't hide the fact that they were bots but the others were more obscure but still followed a pattern, just resting after each stop for a couple of minutes.
In the end i had to stop making the chart because i felt angry. Only the thought of foiling their plans made the sicky feeling go away.
There were two other guys doing it who weren't in the guild but i could only remember the name of one of them to forward.
Identity? No, i can't say unfortunately but i know they are now being watched! It's always nice to get an immediate and personal thankyou from the powers that be.
Ban those disgusting botters...please make nerfing either temporary or non-existent. Us honest folk have been cheated enough.
I call upon the community to band together to keep ArenaNet working on expansions and goodies...not to be tied down with monitoring and nerfing.
Keep up the good work A'Net, you can be sure of the support of the community as always.
StandardAI
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Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
I emailed ArenaNet of a massive chest farming location and several names were forwarded to them.
I noticed one guy several times at town X coming in and out. I got curious so i looked closer and i saw what looked like a whole guild there....at least 11 members of the same guild...doing the same thing. Only two of them were AFK, the rest must be amassing a fortune. I showed my girlfriend the activities (she often watches me play) and even she saw it with her own eyes. "Look, [mr X] is back again!" I started a chart to show how many times each of them was coming and going. Every two minutes for one of them. I even pointed out to my girlfriend that the next time "Y" would return, the character (or bot) would nudge to the left on the way out, stop, turn, cross to the right, turn again and head on out. Sure enough, like clockwork, the bot did do EXACTLY that! They even made stops to the merchant and storage ffs!! Two of them in particular were very hardy farmers. They didn't hide the fact that they were bots but the others were more obscure but still followed a pattern, just resting after each stop for a couple of minutes. In the end i had to stop making the chart because i felt angry. Only the thought of foiling their plans made the sicky feeling go away. There were two other guys doing it who weren't in the guild but i could only remember the name of one of them to forward. Identity? No, i can't say unfortunately but i know they are now being watched! It's always nice to get an immediate and personal thankyou from the powers that be. Ban those disgusting botters...please make nerfing either temporary or non-existent. Us honest folk have been cheated enough. I call upon the community to band together to keep ArenaNet working on expansions and goodies...not to be tied down with monitoring and nerfing. Keep up the good work A'Net, you can be sure of the support of the community as always. |
Zexion
That is not fun, that is strictly against the EULA!
If not for a thing named banning, and that it were such a minor thing, it would be done in the COURT!
It's illegal.
They have "signed" a contract not to do such things!
StandardAI, you should be ashamed of supporting botting.
However, I think it's unfair to put monsters on the way too, as honest ppl could just go manually to the chests, that isn't illegal.
It only puts a grind in GW:/
_Zexion
If not for a thing named banning, and that it were such a minor thing, it would be done in the COURT!
It's illegal.
They have "signed" a contract not to do such things!
StandardAI, you should be ashamed of supporting botting.
However, I think it's unfair to put monsters on the way too, as honest ppl could just go manually to the chests, that isn't illegal.
It only puts a grind in GW:/
_Zexion
ikolian
I disagree standardAi. He pointed out botters, not people playing the game for fun.
smitty-gw
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You're a rat off to ruin other peoples fun, you should be so proud of your self.
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I whole-heartedly disagree, and yes I'm sure he is and damn well should be.
First you get punk'd for the ascension exploit and now, hopefully, you'll be banned for botting.
Good-riddance!
thaumaturge
If they were bots why wasn't all the team constantly farming? Two people afk would indicate to me that they were not bots - not sharing bots with the guild? You don't have to be bots to do things a large number of times, some have more patience. Can you ban people for doing the same thing over an over?
Gaile Gray
Hey, guys,
We're not keeping things vague as in "not wanting to tell you stuff." But really, "closed exploit" is sufficient info for those who know about it to know "Ah, yes" and for those who didn't know about it to say "Well, I don't know what it was, but I'm glad it was taken care of."
Think of the challenge of trying to put all sorts of information in every line of the Update Notes (which are huge for this week!). "Closed exploit (location) which was done by (A, B, and C) and the closure solved (X, Y, and Z)."
I feel pretty sure we're giving the info that we should give without overloading on the minor details. If you have specific questions, you're welcome to ask them and I may be able to provide more details.
Seeker's Passage was a thoroughfare of bots running a limited run, with little risk, in order to plunder a few chests. It's closed now, or will take more effort to accomplish, which means that real players won't be penalized and bots will, hopefully, find themselves out of business.
We're not keeping things vague as in "not wanting to tell you stuff." But really, "closed exploit" is sufficient info for those who know about it to know "Ah, yes" and for those who didn't know about it to say "Well, I don't know what it was, but I'm glad it was taken care of."
Think of the challenge of trying to put all sorts of information in every line of the Update Notes (which are huge for this week!). "Closed exploit (location) which was done by (A, B, and C) and the closure solved (X, Y, and Z)."
I feel pretty sure we're giving the info that we should give without overloading on the minor details. If you have specific questions, you're welcome to ask them and I may be able to provide more details.
Seeker's Passage was a thoroughfare of bots running a limited run, with little risk, in order to plunder a few chests. It's closed now, or will take more effort to accomplish, which means that real players won't be penalized and bots will, hopefully, find themselves out of business.
hydrak
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Seeker's Passage was a thoroughfare of bots running a limited run, with little risk, in order to plunder a few chests. It's closed now, or will take more effort to accomplish, which means that real players won't be penalized and bots will, hopefully, find themselves out of business.
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1. Are the botters banned from this exploit? or are they just being stopped from the update?
2. Does arena.net ban accounts based on information provided by another player?
salja Wachi
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Originally Posted by StandardAI
You're a rat off to ruin other peoples fun, you should be so proud of your self.
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Dazzler
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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hey, guys,
Seeker's Passage was a thoroughfare of bots running a limited run, with little risk, in order to plunder a few chests. It's closed now, or will take more effort to accomplish, which means that real players won't be penalized and bots will, hopefully, find themselves out of business. |
What I *wish* you could do was use your anti-farming code on chests like you do for mob drops: If you repeatedly zone in and out and open the same chest then the chest stops dropping goods until you go do something else for a while.
corax5
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2. Does arena.net ban accounts based on information provided by another player?
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And as to your first question, i think botters do get banned, even if they cant use the exploit or theyr bots become obsolete, the fact is, they did something they wern't supposed to. IF someone robs a bank, then later the bank gets a new impenetrable security system, the thief will still get punished for robing it, even though he cant anymore.
I think.....
Vwoss
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
and you are an idiot for wanting exploits to go unchanged
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salja Wachi
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Originally Posted by Vwoss
Well there are other places still...
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Vwoss
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Originally Posted by salja Wachi
when they are found they will be dealth with in the same manner
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salja Wachi
what do you think a-net does?????? they watch a certain area when it comes to their attention. bot are pretty easy to find, if you are looking for them. then they take out the exploit and ban the botters pretty simple
exploding flowers
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Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions
I emailed ArenaNet of a massive chest farming location and several names were forwarded to them.
I noticed one guy several times at town X coming in and out. I got curious so i looked closer and i saw what looked like a whole guild there....at least 11 members of the same guild...doing the same thing. Only two of them were AFK, the rest must be amassing a fortune. I showed my girlfriend the activities (she often watches me play) and even she saw it with her own eyes. "Look, [mr X] is back again!" I started a chart to show how many times each of them was coming and going. Every two minutes for one of them. I even pointed out to my girlfriend that the next time "Y" would return, the character (or bot) would nudge to the left on the way out, stop, turn, cross to the right, turn again and head on out. Sure enough, like clockwork, the bot did do EXACTLY that! They even made stops to the merchant and storage ffs!! Two of them in particular were very hardy farmers. They didn't hide the fact that they were bots but the others were more obscure but still followed a pattern, just resting after each stop for a couple of minutes. In the end i had to stop making the chart because i felt angry. Only the thought of foiling their plans made the sicky feeling go away. There were two other guys doing it who weren't in the guild but i could only remember the name of one of them to forward. Identity? No, i can't say unfortunately but i know they are now being watched! It's always nice to get an immediate and personal thankyou from the powers that be. Ban those disgusting botters...please make nerfing either temporary or non-existent. Us honest folk have been cheated enough. I call upon the community to band together to keep ArenaNet working on expansions and goodies...not to be tied down with monitoring and nerfing. Keep up the good work A'Net, you can be sure of the support of the community as always. |
i chest farm when i'm really broke. i repeat the same actions over and over for about 30 minutes at a time, rest, then repeat. and whoever's there for that 30 minutes watching me might think i AM a bot. i rezone again and again then go to merchant, then storage then run out. it's decent money, but not enough for me to gain 100Ks or actually max out my storage like other "seemingly legit" farmers out there (example: the players that sells bows that drop in UW for 100K or whatever).
instead of being a snitch to anet about these "bots", why dont you PM them next time to see if they are. if they reply, good, if they dont? maybe they just dont want to deal with you.
anet can handle monitoring their game, and i'm sure they dont need more false claims on who and who's not breaking the rules.
Studio Ghibli
Unless you're doing it like clockwork.
Mormegil
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Originally Posted by StandardAI
You're a rat off to ruin other peoples fun, you should be so proud of your self.
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exploding flowers
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Originally Posted by Studio Ghibli
Unless you're doing it like clockwork.
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Levian Lain
I posted this in the bot thread, but I took a movie of bots constantly running out of the reach:
Bots on the run
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Bots on the run
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Stev0
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It's always nice to get an immediate and personal thankyou from the powers that be.
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Stev0
I'd like to add that because of those individuals who used bots to exploit these chests. Honest people will lose out. The items that these bots pick up flood the so called economy and I SERIOUSLY doubt that gold prices for these goods are lowered because of it.
So Anet should think about righting the wrong these people are doing instead of wronging the 'right' people who are playing the game.
So Anet should think about righting the wrong these people are doing instead of wronging the 'right' people who are playing the game.
Dax
Chalk one up for the good guys. It's amazing when people realize what's good for the game as whole instead of what's in it for them.
FrauValis
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Originally Posted by Stev0
I'd like to add that because of those individuals who used bots to exploit these chests. Honest people will lose out. The items that these bots pick up flood the so called economy and I SERIOUSLY doubt that gold prices for these goods are lowered because of it.
So Anet should think about righting the wrong these people are doing instead of wronging the 'right' people who are playing the game. |
I don’t bot, exploit or even farm I get my money fair and square by completing missions...but now it's getting harder and harder to do.
Which is sad because this is one of the best online games I have played (especially fun when a group of random strangers teams up and wins a mission ....good times) and will continue to play.
I know Anet is doing the right thing they don’t want people breaking the rules and making things unfair for everyone...but on the same hand you cant keep punishing the normal players for the greedy actions of these exploiters...there has to be some way to balance nerfing and mob boosting with rewards for honest play.
If anyone can figure it out Anet will.
*I hope that didn't sound to whiney and complainy...I do love this game it just makes me so mad when greedy people run the fun for us all*
theclam
I think that this change has made the game better (albeit slightly). But I don't see how bots would ruin the economy. Traders keep prices low and the barrier to entry into the economy is extremely low (all you need is to have access to the Temple of Ages and a little free time), so no one is getting cut out.
Dreamsmith
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and you are an idiot for wanting exploits to go unchanged
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Of course, he's said a number of times he hated the game and is going to stop playing. If only he wasn't completely full of hot air and would actually back up his words with actions... <sigh> We should be so lucky...