Skills - Illusionary Weaponry

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

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greenknight777

greenknight777

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Iron Curtain

Me/E

Seear - Talus Chute - Azure Shadow
Digo Murkstalker - Iron Mines of Moladune - Azure Shadow
Didn Hopestealer - Snake Dance - Azure Shadow

bitfreak

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

I-Weaponry build cant because you cant use Illusionary Weaponry and 100 blades are 2 elite

Eonwe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

New Jersey

Idiot Savants

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitfreak
I-Weaponry build cant because you cant use Illusionary Weaponry and 100 blades are 2 elite If you're referring to some of the IW Builds in the Builds Directory a lot of those were created back in the beta days when Hundred Blades was not an elite skill.

darknomad911

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

planet earth

warders of grayhawk

Me/W

lo guys im having issues locating illusionary weapon cant find it in game anywhere lol and can you not use iw and 100 blades at same time?

darknomad911

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

planet earth

warders of grayhawk

Me/W

sorry forgot to mention i hunted down the temple of ages and i dunno how to get iw am i a noob or has it been removed from game?

Feli

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

It is not in the temple of ages... that used to be in the betas... you need to capture it from bossmobs. One for example is in Talus Chute (probably the earliest occurence of IW)

-> http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/

Have a look there and be sure to bring a capture signet.

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

Quote:
Originally Posted by bitfreak
I-Weaponry build cant because you cant use Illusionary Weaponry and 100 blades are 2 elite If you have a mesmer who wouldn't mind giving up an elite slot, you could arcane mimicry his IW onto your 100-blade warrior. Would be hell to get the energy for that tho...

Arcanis Imperium

Arcanis Imperium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

nova

Me/E

No, a Bow is a Projectile Weapon

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

Something also to note, last night I was screwing around with henchies with my Mo/Me and discovered that I was actually doing more damage over time than some of my melee with this skill It has 100% armor penetration and can only be reduced by enchantment skills such as shielding hands.

Fun stuff

Comrade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/Me

They changed it from Chaos damage to regular damage. As part of the PvP Extreme Weekend, I presume.

BBoy_Manchild

BBoy_Manchild

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

dayton ohio

N/Mo

IW damage cannot be evaded or blocked, which is great for taking out warriors and rangers that use stances to make them hard to hit

NeXuS8

NeXuS8

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wild Bladez

W/Mo

yea

Con Quessso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

X Syndicate

E/R

they changed it to regular damage? ouch

I was just thinking of making a W/Me to try this out on.

bahloney

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/N

Could someone post a link to this particular change? I cant for the life of me imagine why IW would be nerfed like that, always thought the whole point of the skill was ignoring armor. Un-dodge/blockable attacks come in the dozens as is, and aren't elite.

BBoy_Manchild

BBoy_Manchild

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

dayton ohio

N/Mo

W/Me is a very bad IW build, not enough energy to pull it off
try Me/R or Me/W or R/Me
i used a IW R/Me for a while, rangers get some really nice attack speed and dodging skills, i think my build was 12 illusion magic, 10 expertise with +1 mask and +3 rune, 7 wilderness survival +1 rune, and rest into beast mastery +1 rune
skills were: IW, Tigers fury, Lightening reflexes, whirling defense, throw dirt, imagined burden, troll unguent, res sig, worked very nicely

Con Quessso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

X Syndicate

E/R

good point on the attack speed stuff. i will try that out, thanks

Xen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Holy Patriots

E/Me

:P

zigzag

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/W

it dont matter at all... it still does 8-34 damage evry hit i use it all the time. and also w/me built right does work with iw.

mark4s

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

illusion of weakness works on R/Me

Vampiric Greenhorn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

the clan of shadows

N/Mo

if you have this and are attacking in melee and change your target does it do dmg to your new target or the one you are attacking?

Nirconus Otreum

Nirconus Otreum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

FDR

Me/Mo is better than Me/W for this. Trust me.
1.Illusionary Weaponry
2.Illusion of Weakness
3.Shatter Enchantment
4.Inspired Hex
5.Distortion
6.Conjure Phantasm
7.Healing Breeze
8.Resurrection Signet

Illusion-15 | Domination-9 | Inspiration-3 | Healing-9
+27 Energy and +30 HP Focus Item

Constantly keep Distortion on when fighting Warriors, use Shatter when people use Divine Boon, Healing Breeze, etc., and Inspired Hex is great against things like Life Transfer, Migraine, and Fragility.

arredondo

arredondo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

^^^

...and without an attack swing speed buff you are settling for 31 DPS instead of 47 DPS. I'm not sure if that's worth going with /Mo for an IW build. I personally feel damage is the main reason to bring it, so why not get as much out of its armor ignoring properties as you can?

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

I'm with Arredondo. If you want a healing skill so badly, use Ether Feast or something.

Also, an IW build without Blackout? For shame!

Nirconus Otreum

Nirconus Otreum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

FDR

More armor "penetration" = less healing spells = dead IW mesmer.

Enigmatics

Enigmatics

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tenafly, NJ

Defenders of Rillanon

W/Mo

Disenchants=useless IW mesmer.

Nirconus Otreum

Nirconus Otreum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

FDR

Well, yeah. That's true regardless of whether you're a Me/Mo or a Me/W. Of course, you could always switch out Inspired Hex with Hex Breaker.

burty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

Boony Two Shoes (boTs)

Me/

IW is only good when you have good attack speed.
What skills could you use, well W skills - beserker stance, i will avenge you and flurry.
Now flurry is the best one to use, as costs 5 energy no cast time and you can spam constantly. You do at least 42 damage a second with full IW.
Ive been using it in Ascalon Arena, now im in Yaks and all I can say is goodbye warriors.
3 major skills to use are IW w/ Flurry, and cast Illu of Weakness at start of battle to stay alive a bit longer.
And yes, since the main point of you is damage, you can take 2 or 3 people out quickly which will hit the monks hard. Monks have trouble healing W and themselves at the same time. Since IW dosnt care about armor, W get raped.
If anyone has any ideas about what other skills to use with this build, wud be nice to hear them, unless its imagened burden which is an obvious choice.

Nirconus Otreum

Nirconus Otreum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

FDR

IW is goodbye warriors no matter the situation. However, I would rather have a Healing Breeze in my skills bar rather than a Flurry - after all, Distortion's in the skills bar, too, so I hardly get hit at all while getting regen +7.

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nova Alliance

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nirconus Otreum
IW is goodbye warriors no matter the situation. However, I would rather have a Healing Breeze in my skills bar rather than a Flurry - after all, Distortion's in the skills bar, too, so I hardly get hit at all while getting regen +7. So a Warrior with Shatter Enchantment is a situation in which the Mesmer would still win?

Huh, how do you figure?

Nirconus Otreum

Nirconus Otreum

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

FDR

It doesn't matter WHO has an enchatment destroying spell - anyone who does scews over the Mesmer. With a Monk build you can at least keep yourself alive with HB, Inspired Hex, and Distortion. And like I said before - you can carry Hex Breaker instead of Inspired Hex if you wish.

LynGrey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Glorium de Mori

E/

You know who ever said W/Me doesn't make a good IW... .errr... not true.. Glads armor helps that blow, and andrenial skills... use flurry.. to charge up all your adrenial skills fast or the shouts. And considering you will do the 25-30 damage or so normally withi a weapon as a warrior, when someone tosses up some defense boosting skills, or Some stances that ruin your day, or you get Weakened, or blinded or what not, you toss up Illusionary weaponry. This slices up warriors like no tomarrow, it also makes you a very very very difficult person to shut down =) While you use IWeapon, nothing else really can be used skill wise besides flurry and defensive stances.. which is perfect =) W/Me just takes some getting us to. When it does, it pays off fast. I've tried this as a W/Me and Me/W... the Me/W just was too soft to play the role, and i realised that all my spells were 1 second casting times, so whats fast casting useful for? I would get more out of Str =)

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Arcanis the Omnipotent

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nova Alliance

Me/

you cant cast IW alone as a Mesmer, you have to cast Physical or Elemental Resistance with it, depending on who you're attacking.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

id just like to add that IW hits even while your character is blinded.

DavenXion

DavenXion

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Huntsville, AL

Xion Nights

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by burty
Now flurry is the best one to use, as costs 5 energy no cast time and you can spam constantly. You do at least 42 damage a second with full IW.
Ive been using it in Ascalon Arena, now im in Yaks and all I can say is goodbye warriors.
If anyone has any ideas about what other skills to use with this build, wud be nice to hear them, unless its imagened burden which is an obvious choice. Did I just see someone openly bragging about pwning the ascalon/yak's arena with an elite and then ask for how to do it better????

On topic, IW hurts in real arenas, but Spiteful Spirit kills IW's as quick or quicker then Warriors.

LynGrey

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Glorium de Mori

E/

Yeah, Empathy/Spirteful spirt that does hurts a tiny bit.. but nothing you can't handle... good skills i found with the IWeaponry is Displined stance (the one where you can't use adrenial skills or it ends) or Defensive stance. I also use Sever artery and Conjure phantasm for the hit and forget people, also DoT helps soften up those hard to crack people. I also use bonetties defense to recharge my batteries real fast... its sucks tho because you got to manage your adrenial hits before you cut on IWeapon, but its not hard to, you do gain fraction amounts when you are hit. I also use illusion of weakness, just to have it ripped off instead of iweapon, its also a goodchunk of life when someone things they can kill you because you are alone. and they spike you and you stand right back up at 3/4 life =)

My Build as I-weaponry has been excellent in pve and pvp. In Pvp it catchs those pesky mo/w with bonnetties off guard when i run up to them =)

The Son Of Morgoth

The Son Of Morgoth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Maryland

The Servants Of Morgoth

N/

Waht is the point to this skill? Why would a mesmer be using melee damage and why would a warrior wannd do max 34 damage when good warriors can pull off much more than that.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

It was made when Hundred Blades was still a non-Elite skill.

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Son Of Morgoth
Waht is the point to this skill? Why would a mesmer be using melee damage and why would a warrior wannd do max 34 damage when good warriors can pull off much more than that. IW works great in 4v4, at least. As long as you remember to use it with Flurry and Blackout.

judge1121

judge1121

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Outlaws Of Ascalon

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NatalieD
IW works great in 4v4, at least. As long as you remember to use it with Flurry and Blackout. ya i agree is very good to use and ppl sometimes cant stop the dmg. Funny seeing an ele doing armor of earth and u still doing same dmg .
Although with the build i use, desecrate enchant kinda kills u since u are heavy on enchants. but ya blackout ftw .