ok i need to know how to report people cause there is this guy charfing 1.7k to help run people from beacons perch to draknors and he just ripped 6 people in our party off
his name is arch adw
how do u report people cause im mad
MJ12trooper
Kyle
ive seen a guy wanting like 5k total to run ppl to droknors forge
Neutral Tyrant
I payed a guy 5k to do that, it was worth it since the guy was very nice 
kirkmping
most people charge 3 k, dont pay any more. Plus, do a 50/50 thing. Give half at Beacons, half at Droknars.
My advice, play through the game. It is much more fun, you uncover the storyline, and now ArenaNet has made it so that people get items and runes by playing through the game, not by farming a section of the map.
My advice, play through the game. It is much more fun, you uncover the storyline, and now ArenaNet has made it so that people get items and runes by playing through the game, not by farming a section of the map.
Ketendra
1) I dont know exactly how to report someone, since I havent done it myself, but I believe there is a link on the guild wars main page somewhere
2)depends on what you mean by ripping off, as in you think he is charging too much (not reportable) or is taking your gold and then not doing the escort? (in which case you better have alot of screen shots of the situation or Anet will probably not be able to do anything)
2)depends on what you mean by ripping off, as in you think he is charging too much (not reportable) or is taking your gold and then not doing the escort? (in which case you better have alot of screen shots of the situation or Anet will probably not be able to do anything)
MJ12trooper
i did do a 50 50 thing
he took half then logged out
TELL ME HOW TO REPORt PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
he took half then logged out
TELL ME HOW TO REPORt PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
MaglorD
Caveat emptor. You took a risk by trying to get rushed to Droknar's and now pay the price.
MJ12trooper
U Guys Arnt Very Good At Answering Questions
Aka
I have sympathy, but since 'forge running' is such an anomaly in the game I don't know if A-net would kick someone for not delivering. Unless you had ironclad screens to document the rip-off.
I keep expecting them to make the run impossible somehow...
I keep expecting them to make the run impossible somehow...
Kyle
if i pay for anything. i dont pay till the end. cuz of this reason. at least if he leaves then. u can just walk through the portal.
Edit: guildwars.com i would look around there
Edit: guildwars.com i would look around there
kirkmping
yeah, the run to Droknars isnt part of the story plot, so i guess its a "use at your own risk" tactic
drowningfish999
Simply don't pay him until he gets you through at least Lornar's that way your through the hardest part, and if he's real you'll know cause most scammers won't waste all that time just for a small amount of gold. Then just pay in intervals until you get there.
DrSLUGFly
there's a list somewhere here (the title is maybe Droknar Runners or something) that outlines several dependable runners who charge not at Beacon but at the first zone change, then again at the next outpost and then the third installment at Droknar's Forge. Check it out if you want someone to run you, many of them were referenced by several gwguru members and not just one.
Helios
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Caveat emptor. You took a risk by trying to get rushed to Droknar's and now pay the price.
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Itbegins
i dont believe you can report people for ripping you off that way just like you cant report someone switching out a sword thats worst than the one you were trading for be aware people scam dont trust people rushing to drok unless its payment on arrival simple as that.......
Algren Cole
if you get ripped off trying to cheat the game you shouldn't complain about it.
Saya
I don't mind losing money to a scammer, since it's my own fault paying before delivery.
But, I hate the thought that this very same person does this trick over and over again, therefore I always make sure to get the advertising player to describe the deal in detail, take a screencap, note the name, guild name & time et voila, if you get ripped off you can pass on the info to anet to deal with it.
So far I only had to do this once, as a scammer managed to rip off a whole team and put everyone on the ignore list, so that he could enjoy the game without any whispering complaints.
That's where the second account came in handy, resulting in a whisper a la "Enjoy the last 10 hours of your account", resulting in a hilarious flood of whispers from him with all kind of bullshit ("I just logged on...", "What do you mean?", "Why were you saying that?", ...) and a logout several seconds later.
Haven't seen him online since, so I assume anet is actually taking such issues seriously
I just can't stand the thought of guilds, or some of their members, actually using scams as their main source of income.
But, I hate the thought that this very same person does this trick over and over again, therefore I always make sure to get the advertising player to describe the deal in detail, take a screencap, note the name, guild name & time et voila, if you get ripped off you can pass on the info to anet to deal with it.
So far I only had to do this once, as a scammer managed to rip off a whole team and put everyone on the ignore list, so that he could enjoy the game without any whispering complaints.
That's where the second account came in handy, resulting in a whisper a la "Enjoy the last 10 hours of your account", resulting in a hilarious flood of whispers from him with all kind of bullshit ("I just logged on...", "What do you mean?", "Why were you saying that?", ...) and a logout several seconds later.
Haven't seen him online since, so I assume anet is actually taking such issues seriously
I just can't stand the thought of guilds, or some of their members, actually using scams as their main source of income.
Cerby
Bottom Line:
You payed a guy to advance you through the game at the pace that was not intended. He is under no obligation to uphold his end of the bargain, and I doubt anet cares. All hes doing is another type of farming: Idiot Farming
This is the type of farming where he sucks fools into giving him money. As far as I'm concerned, I think its a great idea, idiots shouldn't be allowed to have money
You payed a guy to advance you through the game at the pace that was not intended. He is under no obligation to uphold his end of the bargain, and I doubt anet cares. All hes doing is another type of farming: Idiot Farming
This is the type of farming where he sucks fools into giving him money. As far as I'm concerned, I think its a great idea, idiots shouldn't be allowed to have money
Balrad Baptiste
Well all I have to say is f--k you Cerby, I sincerely hope you will run into that attitude of yours one day when you are in need of help. Arch Adw did the same thing to me yesterday, collecting the gold from the full party and then leaving party and dis. I sat around in the dis mad as hell for the inability to do anything about it. And fifteen minutes later he came back to the dis and started spamming the running offer he lead me to believe was genioune. I told him, and i will tell you all: I hope he will burn.
MCS
You have nothing against him he can simply say you gave him money for no reason, which he wouldn't have to because they wouldn't take it that far.
Even if you had screen shots of the agreement you have NOTHING.
You can report him for this but it will get you NOWHERE.
Balrad you don't "need help" to skip 80% of the game. Not only do I have no sympathy for anyone who gets scammed like this I think they deserve it.
A: You should be smarter.
B: You shouldn't be doing it.
It reminds me of these morons who get mad when their hacks have trojans.
There was this one "hack site" for Diablo II, it was the greatest site EVER.
If you downloaded their "hacks" it made you spam for the site. Nothing was better than seeing people
GO TO www.BLAHBLAHBLAH.COM FOR HACKS!!
www.BLAHBLAHBLAH.COM FOR ALL YOUR HACKING NEEDS
WTF I'M NOT SAYING THIS MAKE IT STOP
www.BLAHBLAHBLAH.COM IMPROVED MH
OMFG WTF I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING SOMEONE HACKED ME
Not quite as bad but what can ya do.
Even if you had screen shots of the agreement you have NOTHING.
You can report him for this but it will get you NOWHERE.
Balrad you don't "need help" to skip 80% of the game. Not only do I have no sympathy for anyone who gets scammed like this I think they deserve it.
A: You should be smarter.
B: You shouldn't be doing it.
It reminds me of these morons who get mad when their hacks have trojans.
There was this one "hack site" for Diablo II, it was the greatest site EVER.
If you downloaded their "hacks" it made you spam for the site. Nothing was better than seeing people
GO TO www.BLAHBLAHBLAH.COM FOR HACKS!!
www.BLAHBLAHBLAH.COM FOR ALL YOUR HACKING NEEDS
WTF I'M NOT SAYING THIS MAKE IT STOP
www.BLAHBLAHBLAH.COM IMPROVED MH
OMFG WTF I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING SOMEONE HACKED ME
Not quite as bad but what can ya do.
Hakaido
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It reminds me of these morons who get mad when their hacks have trojans.
There was this one "hack site" for Diablo II, it was the greatest site EVER. If you downloaded their "hacks" it made you spam for the site. Nothing was better than seeing people GO TO www.BLAHBLAHBLAH.COM FOR HACKS!! www.BLAHBLAHBLAH.COM FOR ALL YOUR HACKING NEEDS WTF I'M NOT SAYING THIS MAKE IT STOP www.BLAHBLAHBLAH.COM IMPROVED MH OMFG WTF I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING SOMEONE HACKED ME Not quite as bad but what can ya do. |
Orderless
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ok i need to know how to report people cause there is this guy charfing 1.7k to help run people from beacons perch to draknors and he just ripped 6 people in our party off
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Learn from your lesson and dont pay till you get there. Period. Asking for someone to be punished is stupid. For all we know he was running it and you were as annoying as your post and he said screw it, leaving you high and dry. Tough luck. I am appalled by your inablility to reconize your faults in this trade gone bad. The youth of today just makes me sick. They are always the victims yet, never seem to ever put the term "risk" into their descions. Didnt your moma tell you not to trade with strangers? lol
EvilWizard
Just report him. Maybe you will be lucky and they keep chat logs or maybe you won't. Get others to report him too as more people reporting lends credence to your argument. People who say things like "He can just argue that you gave him the money for no reason...." really need to understand that this is a game environment and not a court of law where reasonable doubt wins... If the support folks can monitor trades and see that X people traded him X gold during this time frame and are reporting him for scamming them then they may go ahead and take action based on the likelihood of the report being true.
Orderless
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Just report him. Maybe you will be lucky and they keep chat logs or maybe you won't. Get others to report him too as more people reporting lends credence to your argument. People who say things like "He can just argue that you gave him the money for no reason...." really need to understand that this is a game environment and not a court of law where reasonable doubt wins... If the support folks can monitor trades and see that X people traded him X gold during this time frame and are reporting him for scamming them then they may go ahead and take action based on the likelihood of the report being true.
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Secondly, RISK. He ASSUMED a RISK when he gave the money upfront. Argue that. Cause im standing on the other side of the issue abosolutly blind to your issue or claim.
Saya
Seems like some people here miss the point. It doesn't matter why or about what the deal has been made.
The problem is that people are out there using scamming as their main source of income, which is clearly an abuse and griefing of other players and therefore against the license agreement.
The problem is that people are out there using scamming as their main source of income, which is clearly an abuse and griefing of other players and therefore against the license agreement.
rickhunterx
while we are on the topic of reporting....i'm not sure how to report either....i recently sent an email reporting a player holding ransom for completing the borilis pass mission....he said he wouldn't light the torches at the end of the mission unless he was paid.....but i'm awaiting a response from the website (maybe i won't get one lol) .....but if i do get redirected to a proper "reporting" form i'll post it here
Calrisian Nantos
There are several legitament and true runners that can be found in the active districts,just use some common sense and watch the trade and local chat for a while and you will begin to see several people either recomend someone who is advertising a runners service,or you will see that person type something like "Starting run be back in 20-30 min for next group"Ive done all missions up to Ice Caves of sorrow and got to droknars by doing Dragons Lair,however last night my friend and I were in Beacons after running a lower level friend from Yak's/Borlis and I decided I would play dumb and try out a couple of running services if for nothing else just to watch it get done,so I found a group charging 1.5 at rankor and 1.5 at droknars,it was a really fun thing watching these two warriors run and sometimes battle thru hordes of grawl and trolls,they got there with a very small death penalty and it was a cool thing to watch if you have a few grand to blow which most of us do,bottom line is you made a bad choice and its not that hard to find the right person,with all due respect....
Edit>wow I was responding to one a few posts up Im starting to realize how busy this place is,sry for the confusion
Edit>wow I was responding to one a few posts up Im starting to realize how busy this place is,sry for the confusion
Saya
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while we are on the topic of reporting....i'm not sure how to report either....
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Click on the "Ask a Question" link, where you can send a support request for all kinds of stuff, including "Violation Report".
Always make sure to add:
- offenders name(s)
- date and time (plus your timezone) of the incident
- detailed description
- a screenshot as a proof (can be attached to the report through that form)
stumpy
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I sympathize but I will tell you what will happen ... Anet will reply with a sympathetic messege explaining that there was no bug in the game and transactions between players ARE between the community. They do NOT involve themselves in such a manner and although unfortunate they cannot do anything about it. Example ... if they did do something (every tom dick and harry would fals report when they felt petty to get someone else razzed) ... unfortunately Anet does NOT have the manpower nor the fact as this is fantasy not reality.
You should be more careful with your money. People WILL rip off others ... ESPECIALLY when there is a prime opportunity to do so like a droknars run. Sometimes the hard road is the right road ... good luck in the future.
EDIT ----- I have been ripped off numerous times ... and unfortunately my friend was for 30 plat ... but this is similar to what Anet reponded saying.
rickhunterx
aaah..thank u very much....i tend to help out on a bunch of missions and stuff....but borilis pass is very bad....all dependent on one player lighting the torches...i'll have to remember this thanks again
Saya
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actually they are ... they are just being polite at telling you to suck it up princess.
I sympathize but I will tell you what will happen ... Anet will reply with a sympathetic messege explaining that there was no bug in the game and transactions between players ARE between the community. They do NOT involve themselves in such a manner and although unfortunate they cannot do anything about it. Example ... if they did do something (every tom dick and harry would fals report when they felt petty to get someone else razzed) ... unfortunately Anet does NOT have the manpower nor the fact as this is fantasy not reality. |
maybe it depends on how or what you are reporting, but I received a reply, where they asked me for further details (date, time & timezone) and the next reply was s.th. like:
"We will be investigating this issue, but since it is a violation against the license agreement between anet and the player, further steps regarding this issue will be handled between anet and the player."
Basically stating that you won't receive any further details on how they deal with the person or what comes out of the report.
Ristaron
I keep seeing all these "don't pay until you get there" messages, but I am interested in doing runs for money, and I have to look through a runner's point of view. If you wait until Droknar's to get paid, who's to say the people you taxi'd won't scam you and not pay? They are under no obligation to pay you, unless they give in to being in your debt.
I applaud the development of the installments at area changes, I was thinking along the same thing.
Any runner out there who has any tips for me?
Oh, and I never cease to be disgusted with people who scam like that, leaving the district after getting paid. As profitable as it may seem, you can only do it so many times, then you need to think up a new plan. I hope they get satisfication out of it, because they earn the eternal hatred of everyone else.
I applaud the development of the installments at area changes, I was thinking along the same thing.
Any runner out there who has any tips for me?
Oh, and I never cease to be disgusted with people who scam like that, leaving the district after getting paid. As profitable as it may seem, you can only do it so many times, then you need to think up a new plan. I hope they get satisfication out of it, because they earn the eternal hatred of everyone else.
dirtisgood
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I have sympathy, but since 'forge running' is such an anomaly in the game I don't know if A-net would kick someone for not delivering. Unless you had ironclad screens to document the rip-off.
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Hello, Thanks for getting in touch with us regarding your question about player agreements. We know that transactions that take place in the game world often involve a certain element of trust. A player will need to place trust in another player to fulfill his or her end of an agreement. Occasionally a player will go back on an agreement or act in a less-than-honest manner. Unfortunately, such acts are matters over which we have no control and about which we cannot take corrective measures. If a player does not live up to his or her end of an agreement we are unable to force that player to do so. However, if we find that a player has violated the Terms of Service or Rules of Conduct (http://www.guildwars.com/legal/rules-of-conduct.html) we will take the necessary and appropriate actions against that player. If account actions are required; disclosure of this information will only be conveyed to the offending party; we are not at liberty to discuss account related issues with anyone but the account holder due to our privacy policy. If you have additional questions please let us know. Regards, The Guild Wars Support Team |
He did violate the Rules of Conduct - rule number 1 in fact
1. While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players.
However, the whole thing could have been accidental - he could have lost his connection for instance. I know I would hate for this to happen if I was the party leader and have my account banned because my ISP stinks.
Bottom line is I have no idea how or if Anet could even keep up with incidents like this, so I suspect it is wisest to use caution when giving money in the game for something intangible like the Dronknar's runs or even UW or FoW.
stumpy
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Nope,
maybe it depends on how or what you are reporting, but I received a reply, where they asked me for further details (date, time & timezone) and the next reply was s.th. like: "We will be investigating this issue, but since it is a violation against the license agreement between anet and the player, further steps regarding this issue will be handled between anet and the player." Basically stating that you won't receive any further details on how they deal with the person or what comes out of the report. |
So yes ... but circumstantial I gather. Hope yours was resolved.
Orderless
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Seems like some people here miss the point. It doesn't matter why or about what the deal has been made.
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Saya and the originator of this post I nor the rest missed your point. Let me make something clear to you. Examples of legitimate grevinces would be hacking into a account and taking the money, stealing someones acct or spamming a lobby with racial slurs. Those are real abuses.
What you describe is childish I will explain this so even the kids will understand. To play guildwars YOU are NOT required to use TRADE. It is an extra feature. So you decide to use the trade and you assume a risk. you dont want want to work to get to droknar or find the item you want so YOU decide to take a easier route.
Now your asking the gw staff to wade through your petty little trade disputes and mediate them. What a crock. Imagine this you got a guy making 40k a year working on solving problems and his email is filling up with this drivel from little babies who think he should fix THEIR mistakes. Look here is the bottom line. YOU make it harder for people to do their jobs with your endless complaints about how you were wronged. Which you already know was because you assumed a risk and now expect them to hold someone liable.....Over what a couple grand of online fake money that you obviously didnt care enough about to becareful with.
You disgust me. I firmly believe that each and everyone of you that bog down the gw staff with this garbage should be flogged in public then made to sleep with the pigs for a few nights, then mb you can think of a ligitimate grip. Right now you got nothin but cry baby syndrome thats getting pretty old. I read these forums everyday in hopes to better my knowledge of the game and each day there is more and more babies on here diluting the content with your senseless drivel.
Saya
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To play guildwars YOU are NOT required to use TRADE. It is an extra feature. So you decide to use the trade and you assume a risk. you dont want want to work to get to droknar or find the item you want so YOU decide to take a easier route.
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Maybe you should've read my post, because I mentioned that I don't mind losing the money, as it's my own fault, but as soon as a player starts deliberately annoying a whole lot of other players, then we're talking griefing -> welcome to Reportsville
EvilWizard
Orderless your argument could be applied to most any monetary transaction. Do I assume a risk when I pay up front for any service and therefore by assuming that risk there is no recourse to take to air grievance or attempt to get reimbursement? That is fairly absurd. Your posts here are petty and of little to no help to the fair question being asked. You assume there is no recourse, but in many other games activities such as trades (monetary or item) are stored via database and can be recalled for review (yes technology is great isn't it!) On top of that there is also the possibility that chat is also tracked. The GW support staff is paid to help people and if they want to limit what you call "cry baby syndrome" type emails then they can ensure that a defined account of what problems not to send to them is outlined before the consumers making the report. I truly believe your comments thus far are not only unfounded, but ignorant and childish as well.
Oh and BTW I am sure that there are many people who would love to get paid 40K a year to sit and sort through emails discussing problems in a video game (but obviously that isn't you so don't apply )
Oh and BTW I am sure that there are many people who would love to get paid 40K a year to sit and sort through emails discussing problems in a video game (but obviously that isn't you so don't apply
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Orderless
Me lose my source of income? You think because I find your post full of mindless childish drivel, im a crook or that I agree with scammers? You are so ignorant I am not even sure why I bother with a response for you.
Listen I am saying what you are claiming as "griefing" is your interpretation. My belief is that the term is for actions which you do not bring upon yourself.
I suppose though thats too hard for you to understand. You are a prime example of what is wrong with the youth today. I suppose its way too much to expect you to be responsible for your own actions.
And for the record I have been a serious online gamer for 5 years and have never been a problem maker. Funny part is this is my first mmorph and now I can see why people ridicule you all so much and give you the nerd or nerds name. I have never played a game where I have seen so many cry babies. Its disgusting.
Listen I am saying what you are claiming as "griefing" is your interpretation. My belief is that the term is for actions which you do not bring upon yourself.
I suppose though thats too hard for you to understand. You are a prime example of what is wrong with the youth today. I suppose its way too much to expect you to be responsible for your own actions.
And for the record I have been a serious online gamer for 5 years and have never been a problem maker. Funny part is this is my first mmorph and now I can see why people ridicule you all so much and give you the nerd or nerds name. I have never played a game where I have seen so many cry babies. Its disgusting.
Sir Skullcrasher
Yeah, i see stuff like this at Grendich Courthouse. People would offereing 10 or 20k to take people to Yak Bend and i recently got to Yak Bend and damn, its the hardest area to be at. So many hydras and stone fury. And they got most of the places blocked.
To think that i help people out with hard quest for free, i should have at least charge them some gold (like 500 to 1k) cuz i can sure use some gold to get weapons and upgrades.
To think that i help people out with hard quest for free, i should have at least charge them some gold (like 500 to 1k) cuz i can sure use some gold to get weapons and upgrades.
Orderless
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You expect people to be working on tracking people down for your bad descions. Thats the point. You think im the minority here? HA. Good luck pal as I know a couple of the guys who have to work on your BS emails and they feel the same way I do. So good luck convincing people to your point of view. I gave you the solution but you still assume its another responsibility to correct the situation everytime someone wrongs you and I am telling you in plain english it isnt going to happen. So watch where you spend you money and the trades you make if its going to wreck your day, cause when you send that in my pal after reading 50 of these in a row give even less of a crap than I do.