any news about guild storage?
Rex the Unloving
does anyone know anything about this? i heard this was confirmed a while back but now it seems like its not going to happen.
XeNoGeArZ
No timeline yet. Probably in CH3.
Lord Palidore
I've read about being able to buy Xunlai (sp) agents, merchants, etc personally for your guild, although I dont think I've heard of actual Guild Storages, in which the whole guild shares a bank, if thats what you mean.
DeathDealer
I cant believe with the massive amounts of requests for this that it probably wont be implemented in ch2...that a downer man.
Rex the Unloving
yeah... i was looking forward to it...
Rayne Nightfyre
If you're referring to NPC traders and such, A-Net confirmed they will be adding the Merchants, Xunlai Agents, and the various Traders to the Guild Halls in Factions. About a storage account that the entire guild has access to, I have heard nothing on that subject.
DeathDealer
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If you're referring to NPC traders and such, A-Net confirmed they will be adding the Merchants, Xunlai Agents, and the various Traders to the Guild Halls in Factions. About a storage account that the entire guild has access to, I have heard nothing on that subject.
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ps: not sure why I quoted you rayne...must have hit the wrong button >.<
Rex the Unloving
i think a good idea is to have the officers/leader take control of the storage, and if someone needs to take something a message will be "(Character) wants to take # of (Item)" and the officers can accept or reject, or select the quanity, but idont know how it would work because there are more than one officers in the guild, maybe they can have a banker? lol.
Snowman
Yea stinks doesnt it.
What about extra storage for those merging accounts?
I asked Gaile about it in Cantha, and she said that she had asked the devs about it but they just mumbled something...??!?!
so it looks like 6 characters sharing the normal storage box, and no guild storage...
What is their problem with storage? and why dont they explain?
What about extra storage for those merging accounts?
I asked Gaile about it in Cantha, and she said that she had asked the devs about it but they just mumbled something...??!?!
so it looks like 6 characters sharing the normal storage box, and no guild storage...
What is their problem with storage? and why dont they explain?
Tric
Yeah, now that we get more slots, more items, and more everything, it is truly abhorrent that we don't also get more space to keep these items. I've always been annoyed at the tiny stash, since it hardly has enough space for my materials, not to mention all the other random items I'd like to keep. Remember Diablo 2? In the expansion pack, they doubled the space in your stash (which is the same as storage in GW).
How about a petition for it?
How about a petition for it?
Snowman
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How about a petition for it?
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Have you met anyone yet who says "I dont want any more storage" ?
What should be petitioned for is a reasonable explanation, and non of this avoiding the subject.
If they do continue to avoid it and not answer it properly then there must be only one reason that I would logically come to the conclusion of....
Its a way to encourage those who want extra storage to purchase additional copies of the game
However, I doubt you will ever see ANET say such a thing, nor would Gaile, because this is a very negative reason, people would feel cheated.. and more importantly, it would be the main reason why people should NOT merge their accounts.
arcanemacabre
I asked Gaile Sunday night after the FPE about extra storage. I remember her reply being something like it is in the works, or being developed, but unlikely to be in Chapter 2.
Argh, 6 characters, tons of items, 1 small box... I feel like all we got is a tiny clown car.
Argh, 6 characters, tons of items, 1 small box... I feel like all we got is a tiny clown car.
Snowman
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I remember her reply being something like it is in the works, or being developed, but unlikely to be in Chapter 2.
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and the fact that she says it wont be in chapter 2 indicates it would be in the next chapter, which even more suggests that the whole reason why storage is restricted is purley a money making trick.
Rex the Unloving
hopefully an update happens.... hopefuly???
arcanemacabre
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lol, its not hard to 'develop' extra storage..
and the fact that she says it wont be in chapter 2 indicates it would be in the next chapter, which even more suggests that the whole reason why storage is restricted is purley a money making trick. |
Give us more space, Anet! We love the items you scatter throughout the game and would like to keep them, but we need more space!
Laibeus Lord
I ended up buying a new account for my personal mule -> Prophecies and Factions.
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which is a pain, really..
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which is a pain, really..
Arawn
Well, can you blame them? Your not paying a montly fee, and of coarse they aren't going to be honest about it, because that is just plain a horrible thing to give people to quote. I will say, they do give us less than they could, but you've gotta understand that Arenanet IS a business, and they DO need to make money, which does benefit you. More money to Arenanet means better overall game, and that IS what your after right? Although yes, as I stated, they could give us a little more for extra armor and such.
Some would also claim that it would cause other things like economic issues, and as well as bandwidth issues, however I disagree with both of these. I too would agree with both of these at one point, but then I then eventuallycame to understand that video game economies really aren't as fragile as people make them out to be, and I also have developed more technical knowledge.
My 2 cents,
Iden Arawn
Some would also claim that it would cause other things like economic issues, and as well as bandwidth issues, however I disagree with both of these. I too would agree with both of these at one point, but then I then eventuallycame to understand that video game economies really aren't as fragile as people make them out to be, and I also have developed more technical knowledge.
My 2 cents,
Iden Arawn
Snowman
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Originally Posted by Arawn
Well, can you blame them? Your not paying a montly fee, and of coarse they aren't going to be honest about it, because that is just plain a horrible thing to give people to quote. I will say, they do give us less than they could, but you've gotta understand that Arenanet IS a business, and they DO need to make money, which does benefit you. More money to Arenanet means better overall game, and that IS what your after right? Although yes, as I stated, they could give us a little more for extra armor and such.
Some would also claim that it would cause other things like economic issues, and as well as bandwidth issues, however I disagree with both of these. I too would agree with both of these at one point, but then I then eventuallycame to understand that video game economies really aren't as fragile as people make them out to be, and I also have developed more technical knowledge. My 2 cents, Iden Arawn |
On the Guild storage and on the personal storage I could maybe just about agree with all you say.
However, Merged accounts?
if you Did NOT merge your accounts you would have two accounts both with 4 slots and both with the usual storage.. Total = 8 slots, 2 storage box's
if you MERGE the accounts you get 6 slots .. and thats it!..
so, YES.. In this case I HAVE purchased a second account (factions) they have received their money to help the business... but I am being penalised
Im not arguing the point about having two extra slots here, thats fine.. but two extra slots with NO extra storage I CAN blame them for because I HAVE paid for it.
=HT=Ingram
I'm actually getting excited about being able to make your guild hall a functional town for your guild. Its actually kinda nice to buy the features you want as a guild and leave the ones you don't out. I can see our guild having storage agent for sure, and prob a Standard merchant. Possibility a blacksmith as well. since not every town has those... It also means guests to your guild actually have opportunity for some commerce as well. I really like that...
The whole Shared Guild Storage may be a future upgrade of such a think. A type of Guild Armory, but I doubt its ready for Chapter 2 at the moment. Maybe in a month or two after launch. Its just going to be nice to be able to meet at your hall and not have to deal with all the town chatter yet still be able to do some business with NPCs at the same time. Makes the Guild Hall island a true GUILD..!!! With function, & purpose.
The whole Shared Guild Storage may be a future upgrade of such a think. A type of Guild Armory, but I doubt its ready for Chapter 2 at the moment. Maybe in a month or two after launch. Its just going to be nice to be able to meet at your hall and not have to deal with all the town chatter yet still be able to do some business with NPCs at the same time. Makes the Guild Hall island a true GUILD..!!! With function, & purpose.
Lady Erighan
Has there been any offical word as to whether or not we'll get larger storage space?. I'm less concered about Guild storage than I am about my own storage space.
Snowman
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Has there been any offical word as to whether or not we'll get larger storage space?. I'm less concered about Guild storage than I am about my own storage space.
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Lady Erighan
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Originally Posted by Snowman
no, but their lack of a confirmation is itself a confirmation that the answer is no
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GraceAlone
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no, but their lack of a confirmation is itself a confirmation that the answer is no
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Raxxman
Actually I'd go with Snowmans view of caution.
I'm sure Anet has a reason for this, but they aint saying.
I'm sure Anet has a reason for this, but they aint saying.
S e X e N ™
im sure the storage space will increase.... either at first or in time. i also think that the idea of a guild storage that officers an leaders could only access would be nice it would help more people maintain a guild with people they know an play with alot instead of creating guilds an spaming "join now become a officer" guilds like this fail shortly. This guild storage would be an excellent idea for sure. As only leader/officers could access it.
Sakashi
Yup, definately sounding like Anets ploy into getting more GW copies sold. Which i'm not pleased with, because this has been a highly requested feature that has been swept under the carpet many times...
(and if it's not why has it been kept such a secret?)
I've supported GW by buying their CE like alot of others have. But that's not enough, i've got to buy more copies and waste time unlocking all my crap again on them? No Thanks.
Oh well, hopefully there won't be that many items i'm intrested in storing, so i'll just use my 2 lesser played pve characters as full time mules.
(and if it's not why has it been kept such a secret?)
I've supported GW by buying their CE like alot of others have. But that's not enough, i've got to buy more copies and waste time unlocking all my crap again on them? No Thanks.
Oh well, hopefully there won't be that many items i'm intrested in storing, so i'll just use my 2 lesser played pve characters as full time mules.
Loviatar
hopefully there will be a fresh new Cantha branch of your storage vault at the minimum
Tombstone
Guild storage could turn out to be a nightmare. Even with only leader and officers with access. Get one of them disgruntled they could clean it out and quit. Matter of fact you will get people joining guilds trying to make it to Officer or temp leader solely for that reason.
Loviatar
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Guild storage could turn out to be a nightmare. Even with only leader and officers with access. Get one of them disgruntled they could clean it out and quit. Matter of fact you will get people joining guilds trying to make it to Officer or temp leader solely for that reason.
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it would be exactly the same as the present storage vaults in each town except this one would only be accessable in the guild hall to guild members.
only you have access to your stuff.
same as you go to the storage vault in lions arch in the middle of a crowd and get your stuff and leave.
Tombstone
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no it would not.
it would be exactly the same as the present storage vaults in each town except this one would only be accessable in the guild hall to guild members. only you have access to your stuff. same as you go to the storage vault in lions arch in the middle of a crowd and get your stuff and leave. |
Who knows what they will come up with. If what you say is correct then the X-storage agents would be the same just give us more slots or make a different agent with different account. Like "smitty's storage" you pay to get a new account only accessible at smitty's storage people. Wouldn't be fair to create that new person in only the Guild Hall. People that aren't currently in a guild would be left out.
Snowman
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I'm sorry, but I think this is faulty logic. Just as they are not "leaking" information about other aspects of Factions, this may be something that they are keeping under lock and key.
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but to keep this information under lock and key is doing MORE damage that it is good... I just cant see any advantage to not telling us.
ANET loves to give good news, and hates to give bad news.
Duly Thankful
Would expanding personal storage be so hard? We currently have a box with room for 20 items at the Xunlai agents, plus room for 45 more on each character. All my toons run very slowly due to the weight they are carrying around with them...
Why not have an option to buy another box at the Xunlai agents? Instead of one box opening when you click on them, all your boxes do (maximum of 6 maybe?) Make it expensive if necessary - after all, the people who want it most will be farmers and can afford it.
Would it really impact that much on bandwidth? And disk space cant be a problem surely, the Megabytes/buck ratio has never been higher.
Why not have an option to buy another box at the Xunlai agents? Instead of one box opening when you click on them, all your boxes do (maximum of 6 maybe?) Make it expensive if necessary - after all, the people who want it most will be farmers and can afford it.
Would it really impact that much on bandwidth? And disk space cant be a problem surely, the Megabytes/buck ratio has never been higher.
Snowman
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Would it really impact that much on bandwidth? And disk space cant be a problem surely, the Megabytes/buck ratio has never been higher.
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They could even charge a rental for the extra storage space and have it as a gold sink.
I mean, it cant be a very profitable business for the Xunlai can it ?.. 50 gold peices to give you storage everywhere for life!...
DJ Josh
i'm sure i remember hearing from either gaile or 1 of the dev interviews that guild storage was set to be in ch2.i have also had a small conversation with gaile(sometime around the wintersday festival) on the subject of seperate armor and holiday item storage,which she liked and said would push for.
put i also noticed something she said on the first visit she made on the fpe end day.which was basicaly that she said something about the devs looking into selling extra char and storage slots.so i all the old talk of extra storage could now be out of the window thx to many posters who keep bringing the fact that they would pay for more up in the forums.
if this is what is going to happen then it will be (imho) yet another imbalance in favor of those with more spare cash,just the same as the e-bay buyers and the multi account holders have now.i myself have 2 accounts and can see i have a advantage in being able to use any of the profs and hence never have any trouble getting a group because i can be what ever the team needs.and of course the e-bay issue is obvious so no need to touch on that subject.
put i also noticed something she said on the first visit she made on the fpe end day.which was basicaly that she said something about the devs looking into selling extra char and storage slots.so i all the old talk of extra storage could now be out of the window thx to many posters who keep bringing the fact that they would pay for more up in the forums.
if this is what is going to happen then it will be (imho) yet another imbalance in favor of those with more spare cash,just the same as the e-bay buyers and the multi account holders have now.i myself have 2 accounts and can see i have a advantage in being able to use any of the profs and hence never have any trouble getting a group because i can be what ever the team needs.and of course the e-bay issue is obvious so no need to touch on that subject.
Snowman
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i'm sure i remember hearing from either gaile or 1 of the dev interviews that guild storage was set to be in ch2.
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if this is what is going to happen then it will be (imho) yet another imbalance in favor of those with more spare cash,
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The price for a storage box from a Xunlai agent is 50gold (if I remember correctly) which I was able to purchase straight out of pre-searing!
hardly a balance issue.
Unless of course they considerably raised the price of extra storage!
Even then... cmon.. look at 15k armour... EVERYONE has it!.. thats 5 peices of armour x15'000 gold peices.. 75'000 gold peices! plus the materials!
In order for it to be something that only the "richest" people could afford and actually make it a balance concern..the price would have to be absoloulty astronomical!!!
Thats not even taking into consideration that people dont really run out of storage until they have at least 2/3 Role playing characters.. by which time money, or their ability to obtain money is not an issue.
Gli
I think DJ Josh was talking about buying space with RL money.
DJ Josh
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I think DJ Josh was talking about buying space with RL money.
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just asked gaile about personal storage expansion some time soon and she poped off to ask someone then came back and said she couldn't find anyone to answer.she did however say she would like a definate answer on this aswell and that we should know for sure by the end of the month.
DJ Josh
update-she just went to check if someone was back and gave me this answer.(pls read the attachments)
Mordakai
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update-she just went to check if someone was back and gave me this answer.(pls read the attachments)
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Also, it will be a free update coming soon!
Mister_Smiley
Their are a few ways that they can go about this. But storage is a big thing and i'm happy that its a high proirity on their part. I have so many materials that i have my Ranger holden them as a mule, so that i can keep them.