FoW Axe Solo Build

Holy

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Mo/

hi, i took a look at the build that Racthoh http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=77852 made with swords....and i tweaked my way into a very effective Axe build that lets u have up to 6 spiders at a time
However for begginers i would reccomend doing 3 then 6.
DO NOT KILL/ATTACK SKALES

skills:
Cleave
Cyclone Axe
Watch Yourself
Frenzy
Shields Up
Doylak signet
HEaling Signet
Sprint
Attributes
Strength (12) 11+1
Axe Mastery (13) 10+3
Tactics (12) +1 (minor rune) +1 (helm)


**i use the collectors Crimson Carapace Shield + a 15^50% zealous axe with armor+7 vs Physical attacks (a stance axe would work just as good).

*first of all i know many of u would say --Frenzy?? ur crazy...but then again i farm it with 6 spiders on me with Frenzy up all the time and recieve 0-2dmg
(2s are rare but do happen and u have the ocasional 3-5dmg.)

*so here is how this goes:
Once u have killed off all the dryders and have armored spiders left its time to pull them back and engage them. do not use any stances untill u have pulled them back far enough, then use healing signet, sprint to them to evade the arrows and after u have started attacking activate Doylak Signet + Shields Up + Watch Yourself. spam these skills the whole time Once that is done activate Frenzy(it is 8 seconds long and has a 4 second recharge so keep it up all the time). With Frenzy, Cleave (+27 dmg) should recharge every second...which quickly adds up to killing a spider in 10seconds or less.

Cyclone axe is there for a reason...that reason is Healing Spring. Although it is not the end of the world if a spider activates healing spring, because with frenzy and cleave i manage to keep the spider i was attacking at the same health it was before HS was activated, but the run is much slower if HS goes up.
How do u know if a spider is about to use Healing Spring? the moment an adjacent spider stops attacking it is either for Apply Poison or Healing Spring...since the chance is 50/50 i spam cyclone all the time.

This is Basicly it..if ur looking to see how to get to the cave in the 1st place
Racthoh explains that very well...so take a look at his build.

**A Complete run leaves me with 3-4 shards and alot of spider legs (almsot always more than 1000g worth)

I Will put up pictures soon

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

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hmm some interesting tweaks there, but you sure shields up is completely necessary? i never really did like that skill, even though youll be against loads of ranger foes

Holy

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Mo/

No Shields up is not completely necesarry, but if u want to always be sucsessful at these runs i reccomend it simply because while u use healing sig....it helps alot

If ur not a big fan of Shields Up then take penetration blow...it speeds up the killing and u have another skill to spam against the Dryder's Wastell's Worry

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

No offense, but this is REALLY similar to many builds posted on the thread Rachtoh (sorry I can't ever remember how to spell that name right) started.

Holy

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Mo/

i know...and im aware that many ppl maybe be using this but i thought id post it anyway just so ppl can look at it nice and clear...not between 10 posts

Cador

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Relax Its Just A [GAME]

R/E

Is this made to clear the FOW or is it just to get to spiders and kill them if os can u post some kind of a map.

Lil Macabre

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

North Pole

AnA

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From my readings it just to clear the beach and spider area. But i had to look cuz of the title of his thread "FOW Axe Solo Build". The title will throw ppl off until you start reading his post.

Now where is that solo axe build for the entire FOW?

Holy

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Mo/

no this is not a FoW clearing solo build...simply because there is no such thing...
i guess i should have put "Spider Solo" in the title but i figured ppl knew u cant clear out FoW with one person...
srry if i confused u...but this is a FoW Spider run solo build...i guess thats the way to put it

Ajantis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

Axe build for solo FoW

Cyclone/Cleave/Disrupting/Watch Yourself/Phys Resis/Ele Resis/Heal Sig/Sprint

Allows you to kill part of the shadow army (Ele+mesmer groups without monks, 2 warrior 1 monk patrols without shadow beasts, shadow beasts without monks, skeleton trappers at plains, berserkers (very hard ), wailing forest, lava pools

hf

Cador

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Relax Its Just A [GAME]

R/E

One part i do not understand, upon reaching the spiders i get poisoned and even though i block their others attacks, but i still have so much poison on me i cant fight them.

Veron

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Leather Rebels [LR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cador
One part i do not understand, upon reaching the spiders i get poisoned and even though i block their others attacks, but i still have so much poison on me i cant fight them. You're not supposed to block their attacks. You're supposed to use something like Dolyak Signet or Physical Resistence so you get almost no damage from their attacks, and then use Watch Yourself+Heal Sig when your health gets low from the poison.

Murder In China

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cador
One part i do not understand, upon reaching the spiders i get poisoned and even though i block their others attacks, but i still have so much poison on me i cant fight them. Try reading the description for "Called Shot".

Holy

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Cador...u will always be poisoned while fighting the spiders...u cant evadde or block Called Shot or dodge it for that matter...but if u use the skills the way i do...pulling 3 spiders at a time for a start...u should be able to kill a whole group and only use Healing Signet once =)

**when u aggro the spiders dont use any stances/shouts/signets
pull them back far enough (by hitting the closest one with an arrow...a longbow does the job).
After this sprint to them to dodge further shots (except Called Shot).
the moment u get to them activate Doylak Signet then Shields up then watch yourself and THEN use Healing Signet.
from that point on spam Frenzy Doylak Signet and Watch Yourself....and also Shields up as much as u can. Healing Sig when needed too

Holy

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Ajantis...ty for this build post, although im still right...u cant completely Clear FoW with that build...yes u can kill 75% of the creatures there but i dont think u can clear FoW

unholy guardian

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Jungle Guide

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Lost Haven

A/Mo

what armor set \ parts of set of armor do u use?

Holy

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Mo/

i use Marhan's (same as Droks) Ascalon Helm, Hands, and Feet. Gladiator's Body and Leggings. (hands can be gladiators too, it doesnt matter)

Sup Absorbtion on chest
Sup Axe on hands
Sup vigor on Leggings
Minor tactics on Feet
Minor Strength on Helm

^^this allows me to have 12 strength 13 axe and 12 tactics along with 455hp and 25 energy.

EZE

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

In da hood

Angelic Order

is sup absorb and vigor absolutely necessary for the build?

EZE

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EZE
is sup absorb and vigor absolutely necessary for the build?

EZE Shouldn't be.

Subson1c

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Nor Cal

XoO

R/Me

I use a diff build that works pretty good too.
I use a sup axe and a sup str. The rest of the runes are minor.
The attributes are:

13 str (10+3)
14 axe (9+3+1)
11 tactics (10+1)

then the build is:
cleave
executioners strike
flurry
watch yourself
dolyak sigent
healing sig
endure pain

I can take an most of the spiders that spawn in the begging because they only do 1-2 dmg to you which is nothing so just keep killing them slowly and healing signet everytime it recharges or whenever you need it.
sprint

Holy

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Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by EZE
is sup absorb and vigor absolutely necessary for the build?

EZE it is not...major absorbtion and maj vigor will work...even minor vigor will work since u dont need all that much health.

**i was asked wat i used so there it is...everything except the ascalon hands and these 2 sup runes is necessary tho.

i would say the minimum health u want to have is 350...NO less, otherwise taking on more than 3 spiders at a time could be a problem for u.

ph0bolus

ph0bolus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

TN

W/Mo

cool..thanks cant wait to try it you think you could like take me on one trip to see how to get there and whatnot? if not thanks anyways..

Murder In China

Murder In China

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There's a video how to run there... go search for it.

ph0bolus

ph0bolus

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TN

W/Mo

nvm..stupid question

Aaronlovesthisgametomuch

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Me

im looking for a good w/me build for soloing the beach in fow and maybe ids farming if they are the same or both would be good. thanks for any info.

nitetime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

eotn

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Lots of info in the sticky ==> http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=128019

dont try teh skales on the beach though...

Zephyr Jackson

Zephyr Jackson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kansas

E/Mo

I use Cyclone/Cleave/Executioners/Sprint/Dolyak/Watch Yourself/ Heal Sig/ And endure pain for those nasty Skales, i end Up pulling the Spiders along the outside walls because there is a hump in the wall they try to shoot you through...

Jestah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy
I guess i should have put "Spider Solo" in the title but i figured ppl knew u cant clear out FoW with one person... Kind of off topic but there are 55hp builds which can clear most of FoW (obviously not forest), it's a challenge but it's possible.

Lint

Lint

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

In a house....

bleh

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipiousMax
No offense, but this is REALLY similar to many builds posted on the thread Rachtoh (sorry I can't ever remember how to spell that name right) started.
Tell me, how much ettin farming builds are they for 1 profession posted here.....

Why cnat you do it on this?

Wishina Serikio

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Our Final Wish

A/R

Just so I clear this up..

I can run to the spiders fine and I have all the skills required.. it's fighting them I find hard.. Am I supposed to kill all the Doubter Dryders at the start of the cave? or simply ignore them and fight the spiders? I'm unsure .. Sorry.. please help me with this providing a screeny too would be helpful

Hemophiliac

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wishina Serikio
Just so I clear this up..

I can run to the spiders fine and I have all the skills required.. it's fighting them I find hard.. Am I supposed to kill all the Doubter Dryders at the start of the cave? or simply ignore them and fight the spiders? I'm unsure .. Sorry.. please help me with this providing a screeny too would be helpful sorry no time for screenies as I have to head to work in 20 mins...but here goes....
1) Go as far out in the water as possible from the center dryder.
2) Equip a longbow fire once at center dryder (aggros all 3), retreat to #1 placement. [Shadow bow works]
3) Once dryders stop coming at you go in and attack, the spider spawn should not trigger as you are to far away.
4a) Walk closer to the cave to get the spider spawn going, pull some out and kill. Take your time till you get used to it, heal up when your hp drops around 200. With physical resistance up, then use dolyak signet and while that is active you should be able to get off 3 healing sigs.
4b) What I like after I kill those 3 is just go in and kill the last dryder while the spiders spawn around you. Then I bunch up the spiders and kill most at once.

5) Enjoy!


last and not least always be wary of strolling skales......

Avery

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hexamon Nexus

W/

I never bothered keeping up with the original Topic after I learned the basics and used axes. I'm suprised to have not actually seen anyone say anything about Triple Chop. Once I saw Triple Chop I ditched cleave immediately. Here's what I run and it kills the entire group of spiders at about the same time.

Sup:Vigor, Absorption, Axe
Minor:Tactics, Strength

I'm trying to remember this off the top of my head so the attributes won't be set:

Axe:15
Str:Just enough to get 9 seconds from Sprint
Tactics:12 I think(Enough for 130 heal)
Inspiration: Whatever is left

Zealous Axe of Defense
+45/-2 Stance Shield against Driftwoods and Spider, +60/-3 when running past skales and fighting Dryders.

Triple Chop
Cyclone Axe
Blank
Blank
Watch yourself
Healing Sig
Physical Resistance
Sprint

The blanks can be whatever you want, I guess. I just used both penetrating, but after reading the Ajantis' post they could be Disrupting and Ele Resistance to do the other things too.

When timed right you will hardly get in a normal attack.

Hitting Physical resistance, and after you're in a position that Trip/Cyclone will hit the group your killing, open with Cyclone into Triple Chop, then cyclone again, durring the cyclone animation hit Watch yourself+healing Sig. When healing Sig is up Cyclone should be ready again with Triple Chop to follow. If you use healing sig during either of the cycloning animation, then none of the spiders will be able to pull off Healing Spring and you'll be able to drop them all at the same time faster than using cleave to kill one at a time.

Sometimes in the cave you have to pull back from the second spawn of spiders at each dryder point but that only takes about 4 or 5 seconds.

deluxe

deluxe

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

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Mo/

only 6 at a time? lol i round up half off the spiders at entrance of cave, kill em all at once, then the other half. gg.

done that for months btw, no need for this topic tbh.

since factions my build is: triple, cyclone, pentrating, exe strike, physical res, healing sig, sprint.

!!! aa !!!!

!!! aa !!!!

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

Aeser Mages [AM]

W/Mo

why dont u use eviscerate?

Queto

Queto

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Belgium

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Quote:
Originally Posted by !!! aa !!!!
why dont u use eviscerate? Spiders will use Melandru's Resillience (sp?), which will give them 3 health regen for each condition on them. Eviscerate causes Deep Wound, so giving them 3 health regen...

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

And if we don't have factions what skill would we use in place of tirple chop?

Megengo

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Midnight Hand

R/Mo

I never understood why people use builds like this that use so many skills for defense. The build I use only has 2 defensive skills and I can tank an infinite number (literally) of armored cave spiders. It can also be used as axe or swords by simply alternating skills, gear, and attributes.

Hundred Blades/Cyclone Axe
Standing Slash/Cleave
Silverwing Slash/Penetrating Blow
Galrath Slash/Penetrating Chop
Healing Signet
Dolyak Signet
Physical Resistance
Sprint

Strength 15
Swords/Axe 15
Tactics 9
Inspiration 2

I use 3 superior runes (yes I am crazy) to achieve these attributes and never take any damage even while using Healing Signet. For the run I remove the superior weapon and strength rune and wear a HoD helm. I use Legionnaires armor for the extra armor while in stance and the desert collector's Crimson Carapace Shield that provides -2 damage and +45 health while in a stance. So all in all I have 350 health while in a stance and heal for 107 whenever my health gets to around 250. When fighting the stick men on the beach before you get to the cave you don't even need to use dolyak sig to take zero damage from them. I also use the typical zealous/defensive sword or axe. With this build I have been able to out damage 2 simultaneous healing springs, and, like I said before, can tank as many spiders as you will ever encounter. I love killing all 3 of the dryders at the mouth of the cave and then taking on all 30+ (or however many) spiders spawn. IMO this is the most effective and efficient build for the FoW spider cave.

antoninus

antoninus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Evil Death Bane [EDB]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Queto
Spiders will use Melandru's Resillience (sp?), which will give them 3 health regen for each condition on them. Eviscerate causes Deep Wound, so giving them 3 health regen... I use Eviscerate and it works fine for me..

Cyclone Axe
Eviscerate
Wild Blow
Watch Yourself (sometimes i swap this for Penetrating Blow)
Physical Resistance
Dolyak Signet
Healing Signet
Sprint

I use Eviscerate ---> Spider uses Melandru's ---> Wild Blow.

I hack at the spider waiting for Eviscerate to charge up, this should get it down to around 3/4 hp. then i use watch yourself, eviscerate, cyclone axe, wildblow. This brings the spider to 1/4 hp just keep hacking it and it should be dead before Deep Wound expires. If not well it's still pretty fast I havent tried Triple Chop though so idk..

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

I use avery's build but shields up for watch yourself
i can take out the first 20 spiders in about 60 seconds if i group em right

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jestah
Kind of off topic but there are 55hp builds which can clear most of FoW (obviously not forest), it's a challenge but it's possible. You can clear the wailing lord forest with the n/mo, just not the burning forest with all the skales. Toss in a support monk and burning forest can be cleared.

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

why frenzy?