The ONLY reason to merge is to get access to skills from the other zone for your chars.
If you don't merge you get 2 accts with 4 chars each and TWO storages. You can transfer between these by meeting on "battle isle" and trading.
Again the only reason to merge is access to new skills on old chars or old content on new chars.
Is Anyone not Merging?!?
Imaginos
TruePlayer
i have 2 prophecies accounts - so i will merge one with the factions addon.
but i won't buy the 3rd chapter or even preorder it, like i did with factions. i may be dumb, but i expected 4 more slots. i'm the kind of person who likes leveling his character from 1->20. i wouldn't mind having 2 elementalists each of them with a different element, altough my first has all skills and can switch easily.
anet dissappointed me very much with this decision and i absolutely don't like the idea to buy two copies of every chapter they release, just to be able to play every available character.
i already deleted my very first characters before i bought my second copy of prophecies. just because i wanted to play (and have) the 2 missing characters.
i will have fun with factions, but any additional chapter will not be preordered again.
"forcing" people to buy more than one copy is the way they make money for a free to play game - but not anymore with my money. :-)
but i won't buy the 3rd chapter or even preorder it, like i did with factions. i may be dumb, but i expected 4 more slots. i'm the kind of person who likes leveling his character from 1->20. i wouldn't mind having 2 elementalists each of them with a different element, altough my first has all skills and can switch easily.
anet dissappointed me very much with this decision and i absolutely don't like the idea to buy two copies of every chapter they release, just to be able to play every available character.
i already deleted my very first characters before i bought my second copy of prophecies. just because i wanted to play (and have) the 2 missing characters.
i will have fun with factions, but any additional chapter will not be preordered again.
"forcing" people to buy more than one copy is the way they make money for a free to play game - but not anymore with my money. :-)
hunter
No one is forcing you to buy two copies of the game. 6 slots are more then enough.
If you merge: you will be more competitive in PVP and have access to both continents as well as skills. Traveling back and forth would also considered more fun by some.
If you do not merge: you will have 2 more slots but you won't be able to travel back and forth. You will have more storage room and be able to join two different guilds, also i don't really see that making much of a difference since you can't play the faction war with your Prophecy characters.
So honestly, i don't see what the problem is. those 6 slots are more then enough, you won't be playing more then 6 characters, and even if you do and eventually decide to want to play another one, you cans imply delete one of your previous characters and spend the next 3 days getting your new one to 60. This is not WoW my friend. here you can cap VERY easily.
If you merge: you will be more competitive in PVP and have access to both continents as well as skills. Traveling back and forth would also considered more fun by some.
If you do not merge: you will have 2 more slots but you won't be able to travel back and forth. You will have more storage room and be able to join two different guilds, also i don't really see that making much of a difference since you can't play the faction war with your Prophecy characters.
So honestly, i don't see what the problem is. those 6 slots are more then enough, you won't be playing more then 6 characters, and even if you do and eventually decide to want to play another one, you cans imply delete one of your previous characters and spend the next 3 days getting your new one to 60. This is not WoW my friend. here you can cap VERY easily.
Loviatar
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If you don't merge you get 2 accts with 4 chars each and TWO storages. You can transfer between these by meeting on "battle isle" and trading. . |
they have not stated that the Cantha branch vault will not be empty and waiting for Cantha goodies.it would almost have to be for the new item storage requirements
dansamy
Since I mainly GvG these days, I will most definitely be merging. I already used faction to unlock a lot of skills (and EVERY Rit/Ass rune!) during the two events. Also, I primarily monk and the some of the new monk skills will absolutely kick butt.
In my opinion, choosing not to merge would be a perfectly fine choice for the average PvE player. He'll, in essence, have 2 games from the same "family". (Like say, Roller Coaster Tycoon and Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 or somehting along those same lines.) The only way his Prophecies characters will be able to get Factions stuff is to trade across continents with the aid of a friendly guildmate.
I do know one thing for sure: I need more storage room for my armor sets!
In my opinion, choosing not to merge would be a perfectly fine choice for the average PvE player. He'll, in essence, have 2 games from the same "family". (Like say, Roller Coaster Tycoon and Roller Coaster Tycoon 2 or somehting along those same lines.) The only way his Prophecies characters will be able to get Factions stuff is to trade across continents with the aid of a friendly guildmate.
I do know one thing for sure: I need more storage room for my armor sets!
Shantel Span
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Guess i'm a severe minority. I won't be merging, because I'm bad at and don't like PvP. I like storyline,which is what i'm getting Factions. Secondly, I like character development. I love getting new characters. So what if I can't access new skills or old skills...it's about taking the limitations dished out to you, and finding a way around them.
I hope this was what you were looking for, when starting the thread...
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Guess i'm a severe minority. I won't be merging, because I'm bad at and don't like PvP. I like storyline,which is what i'm getting Factions. Secondly, I like character development. I love getting new characters. So what if I can't access new skills or old skills...it's about taking the limitations dished out to you, and finding a way around them.
I hope this was what you were looking for, when starting the thread...
GranDeWun
The reasons to merge outweigh those for not merging, IMO. However, the argument for merging would be completely overwhelming if not for:
- only 2 more slots per chapter means you never get enough to have a char in each primary, plus PvP
- unless storage increases, you now split the limited storage across more chars
- only 2 more slots per chapter means you never get enough to have a char in each primary, plus PvP
- unless storage increases, you now split the limited storage across more chars
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:: looks right :: Guess i'm a severe minority. I won't be merging, because I'm bad at and don't like PvP. I like storyline,which is what i'm getting Factions. Secondly, I like character development. I love getting new characters. So what if I can't access new skills or old skills...it's about taking the limitations dished out to you, and finding a way around them. I hope this was what you were looking for, when starting the thread... |
A Unique viewpoint, too (and one I admire). To continue with the Magic analogy, buying unlinked accounts is like just playing with just new expansions, which I always thought was more fun then "mixing and matching".
nimloth32
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No one is forcing you to buy two copies of the game. 6 slots are more then enough.
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Really? It's possible to have one of every primary class and another character for PVP with six slots? Oh, it's not? Then six slots are not "more than enough". Don't be so incredibly ignorantly arrogant to think that because you are happy to suck down Anet's marketing kool-aid that the rest of the world is also that naive.
I'm sorry, your solution to playing all primary classes is to delete an old character? What kind of idiot are you? |
The rest of us who have better things to do than go through PVE scripted encounters countless times are gonna merge, enjoy the skills from both continents and be perfectly happy with 6 slots. Oh, we also won't buy a second copy of it.
Mordakai
OK, people, let's keep this civil and on topic, please. Thank you.
So far, if heard these reasons:
1. To join two Guilds
2. To start over with no carryover.
Any other reasons not to merge?
So far, if heard these reasons:
1. To join two Guilds
2. To start over with no carryover.
Any other reasons not to merge?
Loviatar
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OK, people, let's keep this civil and on topic, please. Thank you.
So far, if heard these reasons: 1. To join two Guilds 2. To start over with no carryover. Any other reasons not to merge? |
there was also all 8 primaries.ass/rit plus asian version of 2 professions not having slots chapter 1
Phaern Majes
Only reason I could see for not merging, would be if you have 2 working computers. Because both chapters share the battle islands. So if you could get both accounts online at the same time, you could switch items in and out between them. So that would mean double the storage. Only down side would be the inconvience of having to zone to and from the battle isles to do so. That and I guess if you were desparate to bring your main char to Factions.
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Ok smartass, since you are willing to play the damn PVE campaign 7 times from start to finish, then go ahead and don't merge, easy as that.
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OK, people, let's keep this civil and on topic, please.
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Phaern Majes
My aren't we the all rebelling disgruntled person today? Possibly people keep it civil because "real discussions" are easier to understand, when they aren't filled with emotions. Not to mention the "real discussion" tends to get lost when people don't keep it civil. Saying so, I will point out that we have wondered away from the "real discussion" here.
"Factions is an overpriced expansion".... No it is a stand alone game. As of which you can treat it as such by not merging your accounts, or you can merge it in. The choice is voluntary, if you don't want to don't, if you do then do.
"They are too wedded to their extra income"... 3 words: World of Warcraft. Go play that for a year and then tell me how bad we have it here. Yes they are in it for money, as are all people who make games (if only for the fact you need money to live). However, they do care that people enjoy the game. If they didn't, why do you think Gaile would be appearing both in the game and on this forum? Why do you think they have support to report problems, and the people to deal with those problems. All that costs money for them. Yes of course Anet is too greedy and we are all fools for playing GW /sarcasm
"Factions is an overpriced expansion".... No it is a stand alone game. As of which you can treat it as such by not merging your accounts, or you can merge it in. The choice is voluntary, if you don't want to don't, if you do then do.
"They are too wedded to their extra income"... 3 words: World of Warcraft. Go play that for a year and then tell me how bad we have it here. Yes they are in it for money, as are all people who make games (if only for the fact you need money to live). However, they do care that people enjoy the game. If they didn't, why do you think Gaile would be appearing both in the game and on this forum? Why do you think they have support to report problems, and the people to deal with those problems. All that costs money for them. Yes of course Anet is too greedy and we are all fools for playing GW /sarcasm
M Sparkle
I will definitely be merging.
Ive already tried any/all of the original professions that interest me, so I'll be using the two new ones to start an As and Rt. I tend to stick to playing my main char anyway, so I want to continue through factions with him aswell.
Overpriced?!?!?!
How can you possibly say it's overpriced? I think you'd find that most people who have ever used the /age command would disagree with you. I've been playing GW since it was released, I paid $50 for it...almost a year ago. Show me a similar online game that gives you that many hours of play for $50.
Factions will come out, and I will buy it...for $50...and likely play it for another year.
Damn you Anet for gouging me for $100 for two years and countless hours of gameplay.
I wish I was playing wow and paying how many times more?
Ive already tried any/all of the original professions that interest me, so I'll be using the two new ones to start an As and Rt. I tend to stick to playing my main char anyway, so I want to continue through factions with him aswell.
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How can you possibly say it's overpriced? I think you'd find that most people who have ever used the /age command would disagree with you. I've been playing GW since it was released, I paid $50 for it...almost a year ago. Show me a similar online game that gives you that many hours of play for $50.
Factions will come out, and I will buy it...for $50...and likely play it for another year.
Damn you Anet for gouging me for $100 for two years and countless hours of gameplay.
I wish I was playing wow and paying how many times more?
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My take on it, is that ANet wants you to play more with less characters. They want you to become better with those characters that you do have. I don't think it's the best business sense, but they have some lofty ideals for their game, and they're going to damn well do whatever they can to see those ideals through.
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Possibly people keep it civil because "real discussions" are easier to understand, when they aren't filled with emotions.
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Overpriced?!?!?!
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If you think that it's the suits that are making this decision, you're on crack. This is something that's clearly coming from the game design team, probably at the highest level.
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bulletsmile
/merge here
why do i need 4 slots for only assassin and ritualist?, it's the prophecy thet needs more slots!
why do i need 4 slots for only assassin and ritualist?, it's the prophecy thet needs more slots!
jules
They should give those who merge more storage space. Having six characters and the same storage space as someone who has four is just unfair.
Renegade ++RIP++
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Overpriced?!?!?!
How can you possibly say it's overpriced? I think you'd find that most people who have ever used the /age command would disagree with you. I've been playing GW since it was released, I paid $50 for it...almost a year ago. Show me a similar online game that gives you that many hours of play for $50. Factions will come out, and I will buy it...for $50...and likely play it for another year. Damn you Anet for gouging me for $100 for two years and countless hours of gameplay. I wish I was playing wow and paying how many times more? |
nwn
sacred
baldurs gate 2
galactic civilisations 2
diablo 2
starcraft
warcraft
gothic 2
morrowind
oblivion
silkroad online
kal online
how many more games...
maybe not all being fully online playable seeing as some are single playerfocussed, but they did offer me many hours of gameplay and in most cases are as well open to modding which extends gamelive as well and do offer some form of multiplayer. So please stop the excessive points about it being so much better. GW was a nice game, but in the end factions is mere an expansion to us previous gw owners sinc eit expands our game not hands us a complete new one.
in any case reasons for not merging:
experience pve with each primary without deleting chars
not owning the previous or subsequent chapters
not caring for pvp
needing the extra storage
out of conviction due to seeing the reduction of 4 slots to 2 as a rip off
to share with another familymember so they can be used and played at the same time
to share with a group of friends
to be part of a moneyfarm
to more easilly scam people
to lessen chance of getting banned
to experience a kurzich or luxon focussed guild
to be able to sell a previous chapter and make back part of the invested money
etc...
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Possible reason not to merge is to have every class primary playable in PvE. So far that's the only reason I can come up with.
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if you do not merge you can't get any longer, 4 slots for assassin and ritualist and 4 slots for necro, monk, mesmer, ele, warrior and ranger!
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NOooooooooooo, guys, we must not forget that if you don't merge, your factions account can only play 2 professions, ritualist and assasin, and the core account can still only play 4 of the six professions, so if you don't merge you won't be able to play more than six different professions!!!
if you do not merge you can't get any longer, 4 slots for assassin and ritualist and 4 slots for necro, monk, mesmer, ele, warrior and ranger! |
faction gives access to play 4 characters of 8 professions
prophecies gives access to play 4 characters of 6 professions
so if you make sure to play assasin and ritualist in the faction one you can in fact play them all without deletion of any of your previous created chars.
Lonk
heh I'll be merging of course, and I'd say the slot debate really is silly.
I've played since the E3 event, and I almost exclusively play PvE, and sure I wouldn't mind a few extra slots but honestly, it does not bother me to have 4 now and 6 when merged.
As most anyone can tell you, with 4 slots you could make 3 pve chars that represent the 6 professions, and still have a pvp slot, and now we'll have 2 more slots, plenty enough unless you're so picky you want one slot for every main profession, which really is a bit of overkill.
In all honesty its so easy to get a new pve character to level 20, endgame, and decked out in droknar armor now that noone should really care, if they run out of slots they could just delete thier least played char, make a new char for a bit, and if they didn't like it, remake the old character they deleted and have it back up and running within a week, if even that much time, an annoyance sure but it does not justify thinking Arenanet is somehow jipping you, or owes you any extra slots in the first place.
I've played since the E3 event, and I almost exclusively play PvE, and sure I wouldn't mind a few extra slots but honestly, it does not bother me to have 4 now and 6 when merged.
As most anyone can tell you, with 4 slots you could make 3 pve chars that represent the 6 professions, and still have a pvp slot, and now we'll have 2 more slots, plenty enough unless you're so picky you want one slot for every main profession, which really is a bit of overkill.
In all honesty its so easy to get a new pve character to level 20, endgame, and decked out in droknar armor now that noone should really care, if they run out of slots they could just delete thier least played char, make a new char for a bit, and if they didn't like it, remake the old character they deleted and have it back up and running within a week, if even that much time, an annoyance sure but it does not justify thinking Arenanet is somehow jipping you, or owes you any extra slots in the first place.
Loviatar
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GW was a nice game, but in the end factions is mere an expansion to us previous gw owners sinc eit expands our game not hands us a complete new one.
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when i got BALDURS GATE II i continued on my way and considered i paid for (and got) a full game not an expansion.
THRONE OF BHALL was the expansion of BALDURS GATE II
the deciding factor on this will be sales.
if people consider it an expansion they will not pay the full price for it.
PS didnt you say only 2 slots you would not get it?
Renegade ++RIP++
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hi rip
when i got BALDURS GATE II i continued on my way and considered i paid for (and got) a full game not an expansion. THRONE OF BHALL was the expansion of BALDURS GATE II the deciding factor on this will be sales. if people consider it an expansion they will not pay the full price for it. PS didnt you say only 2 slots you would not get it? |
and yes I said that, which is the reason why I still didn't buy it as evidenced by one of the reasons for not merging...(ergo not owning subsequent chapter to merge...). But the question was why would a person not merge, not why would you buy it and then not merge.
Phaern Majes
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Wow..... need I say anything?
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Really I'm pretty sure an expansion requires that you have the original game. Yet somehow Factions doesn't require Prophecies. Not to mention that the amount of content in Factions is enough for it to be a stand alone game. Just because all the content isn't new to you, doesn't mean it isn't there.
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Fair enough, but why are you even playing GW if its so bad? Or if you aren't then why are you even here?
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That was my point exactly. ANet bothers to hire people to do public relations. Which shows that they do care that people enjoy their games.
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I can't even answer this. ANet isn't Blizzard, what more needs to be said? Blizzard is more than making up for their free servers by charging for WoW. I think the 9 chars and unlimited accounts was just poor planning on their part. Their servers are now so bogged down that I can't stomach playing D2 online anymore.
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It's an expansion, and it costs more than the first game. Expansions typically sell for $30 at most, so it's therefore an overpriced expansion.
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Naqser
from slots to wheter it's an expansion or not, and this was only a thread wheter you merge or not
I will merge, I still got my first character and want to get to Chanta with it. Even if i only get 2 more slots, hell, it's 4 slots to much for me, i only play my first character and time to time make a PvP character but then delete it.
I will merge, I still got my first character and want to get to Chanta with it. Even if i only get 2 more slots, hell, it's 4 slots to much for me, i only play my first character and time to time make a PvP character but then delete it.
Phaern Majes
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totally irrelevant, if it looks like an expansion, smells like an expansion and acts like an expansion then it is an expansion whatever semantics dictate... it expands the game of previous GW owners. Since, it uses the same professions and adds 2 extra, it rehashes graphics from the previous chapter, etc... or are you going to consider any game to be a new game if i offer x% new content and copy paste the rest from the previous instalment so that it can be ran standalone... once more it is a mere expansion for previous owners of GW but can be installed seperately... but that doesn't make it a new game.
semantics again, in any case prolly the answer would be due to lack of a comparable normally priced rpg since that was the reason why i bought it, but am not buying it now (ergo emergence of oblivion, gothic 3, nwn 2,...). if people don't like their games then they won't buy it. Therefore they aren't necessarilly doing it out of the goodness of their heart but so they can earn their living and be successfull for more then the hype of 1 installment... How old is Diablo2? and how old is WoW? so please don't come here with a BS story concerning wow making up for some servers of diablo... not to mention that it is quite logical that the servers of diablo 2 would be a tad bogged down if there doesn't come an expansion... or how do you think GW will fare when they haven't released an expansion in 3 - 4 years (or longer... beleive that last expansion of diablo 2 dates 2000 "Release Date: Jun 29, 2000" ) compared with hteir original plan to launch one every 6 months... In any case, with diablo 2 you can still play the game offline while with GW you can't... so don't even go there... |
As for your second reply, I wasn't asking you and it was rhetorical.
"Therefore they aren't necessarilly doing it out of the goodness of their heart" I never said they were. What I said is that while they may be making profit, because that is what any gaming company does. They do care somewhat that people enjoy their game. Thus the public relations and bug report ability.
"wow making up for some servers of diablo" You obviously missed my sarcasm.
"with diablo 2 you can still play the game offline while with GW you can't... so don't even go there" I'm not the one that brought it up.... like I said I was answering someone elses post. Go complain to them.
MSecorsky
I NEED to merge! How else will I get my stockpile of Chiton, Shells and Vials of Ink into Cantha?! Plus those little glass bottles that the ink goes in... can't have too many of those.
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"previous GW owners." Provided that you are indeed a previous owner then, yes. But my point is that there will be several thousand players that only have Factions and to them it is indeed a stand alone game.
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"Therefore they aren't necessarilly doing it out of the goodness of their heart" I never said they were. What I said is that while they may be making profit, because that is what any gaming company does. They do care somewhat that people enjoy their game. Thus the public relations and bug report ability.
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"wow making up for some servers of diablo" You obviously missed my sarcasm.
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"with diablo 2 you can still play the game offline while with GW you can't... so don't even go there" I'm not the one that brought it up.... like I said I was answering someone elses post. Go complain to them.
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PS MSecorsky: by asking a trusted guildy to help you transfer it. Or using 2 pcs and do it yourself. Unless this was sarcasme as well.
Edit: fixed link
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PS MSecorsky: by asking a trusted guildy to help you transfer it. Or using 2 pcs and do it yourself. Unless this was sarcasme as well.
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fallot
For the competitive player there isnt any choice. You have to have both Factions and Prophecies skills available on the same account.
Loviatar
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and this point was severely steered towards the point of you not being able to stomach to play diablo 2 online, a game which hasn't had a paid expansion for +- 4 years which still offers so many slots and lets you play the game offline as well as online the way you want it. while GW does not.
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ummmm riparent those slots stored on your hard drive subject to whatever hacking you want instead of on secure servers?
if diablo 2 truly stores all those accounts and slots and inventories on their secure servers my apologies
otherwise that arguement is not only irrevalent but pure crap