I'm sorry but this does not look like the Assassin we are getting
Ira Blinks
we can agree on "female assasins should look sexier"
.neuronster.
I don't know. Are real assassins really that sexy anyway? :P
Then again, I guess some are.
I know the male assassins should have better armor...
Then again, I guess some are.
I know the male assassins should have better armor...
Ira Blinks
who cares... they are in game to toy with, not to kill real people...
Martian
I think really what we all need is adjustable body types in the character creation screen, then all our problems would be washed away, like in that neurofen advert 
.neuronster.
Yeah! That would be awesome! Like in the Sims. >.>
VampiricuS
lucy liu (sp) made a good one 
Cjlr
The problem with having a Sims-style character creation system is the massive amount of resources it would take.
Right now, there's what, a few hundred different face, hair, combos, etc? If each one was potentially unique the storage space required balloons.
Right now, there's what, a few hundred different face, hair, combos, etc? If each one was potentially unique the storage space required balloons.
generik
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Originally Posted by Cjlr
The problem with having a Sims-style character creation system is the massive amount of resources it would take.
Right now, there's what, a few hundred different face, hair, combos, etc? If each one was potentially unique the storage space required balloons. Actually no.. right now there are only like say 16 faces to choose from, and a similarly numbered amount of hair styles, and same for skin colour.
Sounds like a lot of storage requirements right?
Wrong.
They can use freaking 5 bits to represent your face, another 5 bits for the skin colour, etc.. your entire character right now can be expressed in little more than the storage requirements of an integer (4 bytes)
Suddenly makes your argument moot doesn't it?
Right now, there's what, a few hundred different face, hair, combos, etc? If each one was potentially unique the storage space required balloons. Actually no.. right now there are only like say 16 faces to choose from, and a similarly numbered amount of hair styles, and same for skin colour.
Sounds like a lot of storage requirements right?
Wrong.
They can use freaking 5 bits to represent your face, another 5 bits for the skin colour, etc.. your entire character right now can be expressed in little more than the storage requirements of an integer (4 bytes)
Suddenly makes your argument moot doesn't it?
bulletsmile
well, yes the assassin is a bit too skinny, but that doesn't mean they have to get larger boobs or anything, anyway assassins and ninjas and all those were skinny, small and tiny creatures, they had a very low weight and could move fast and silent, they could jump high and all that stuff, so i think anet is just trying to be a bit realistic and have some differences in the game...
Ira Blinks
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Originally Posted by bulletsmile
well, yes the assassin is a bit too skinny, but that doesn't mean they have to get larger boobs or anything, anyway assassins and ninjas and all those were skinny, small and tiny creatures, they had a very low weight and could move fast and silent, they could jump high and all that stuff, so i think anet is just trying to be a bit realistic and have some differences in the game...
I DONT CARE!!! I DEMAND BOOBS!!!!1!!1!!one!!1!1elleven!111
Misc Merik
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Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
I DONT CARE!!! I DEMAND BOOBS!!!!1!!1!!one!!1!1elleven!111
I dont know how to respond to that other than rofl. Yes, we all demand you Arena Net make all female assassins have female mesmer bodies so they can look good while beating up the poor warmo.
I dont know how to respond to that other than rofl. Yes, we all demand you Arena Net make all female assassins have female mesmer bodies so they can look good while beating up the poor warmo.
lyra_song
^_^ etna is an assassin!
Ira Blinks
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Originally Posted by lyra_song
*image*
^_^ etna is an assassin! you killin me... why, OH WHY!? is she so flat?
^_^ etna is an assassin! you killin me... why, OH WHY!? is she so flat?
Starsky-sama
comparatively to ^(above image posted)her proportions.it is just right. she is still more curvy than the current fem. assassin playable charac.
like many have suggested. "abit more meat would do" on the current one. (ie. Nika in the Cine would be perfect) (and of course no need for the extreme DOA style body models.) xD.
/g'day.
like many have suggested. "abit more meat would do" on the current one. (ie. Nika in the Cine would be perfect) (and of course no need for the extreme DOA style body models.) xD.
/g'day.
Vahn Roi
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Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
you killin me... why, OH WHY!? is she so flat?
Simply put: to make her look cuter.
If memory serves her personality was meant to be more coy and teasing, almost child-like and having a pair of bouching DDs doesn't seem to mix well with that kind of character...I donno.
Just my two cents.
Simply put: to make her look cuter.If memory serves her personality was meant to be more coy and teasing, almost child-like and having a pair of bouching DDs doesn't seem to mix well with that kind of character...I donno.
Just my two cents.
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by Starsky-sama
comparatively to ^(above)her proportions.it is just right. she is still more curvy that the current assassin playable charac.
The characters in Guild Wars use a very long head to body ratio. Their heads are just too small to match the length of their bodies. The perfect example of this are the character's necks. Its just way way way too long. Same with the torso and the stomach. This elongation makes the assasin look even skinnier.
more on etna:
Etna
Age: 1470
Class: Demon (Vassal)
Recommended Weapon: Spear or Axe
Etna is one of the few who remain in the Overlord's Castle after King Krichevskoy's death. In the beginning, she attempted to wake up Laharl...using various means to do so. From then on, Etna became Laharl's closest vassal (though isn't always very trustworthy), aiding him in his rise to power.
Etna acts carefree, but is also very devious. Often times, it's hard to tell who she really is working for. She also has deep respect and loyalty towards King Krichevskoy. Etna is often known for ending an episode with an odd preview to the next episode, which is often times a parody of TV shows.
more on etna:
Etna
Age: 1470
Class: Demon (Vassal)
Recommended Weapon: Spear or Axe
Etna is one of the few who remain in the Overlord's Castle after King Krichevskoy's death. In the beginning, she attempted to wake up Laharl...using various means to do so. From then on, Etna became Laharl's closest vassal (though isn't always very trustworthy), aiding him in his rise to power.
Etna acts carefree, but is also very devious. Often times, it's hard to tell who she really is working for. She also has deep respect and loyalty towards King Krichevskoy. Etna is often known for ending an episode with an odd preview to the next episode, which is often times a parody of TV shows.
Rex the Unloving
thats anime for ya.
LordDeArnise
I've seen worse choices for assassin looks. The assassins are fine as they are!
Ira Blinks
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
Simply put: to make her look cuter.
If memory serves her personality was meant to be more coy and teasing, almost child-like and having a pair of bouching DDs doesn't seem to mix well with that kind of character...I donno.
Just my two cents. oh dont get me started on whole anime child porn issue... thats just sick
If memory serves her personality was meant to be more coy and teasing, almost child-like and having a pair of bouching DDs doesn't seem to mix well with that kind of character...I donno.
Just my two cents. oh dont get me started on whole anime child porn issue... thats just sick
.neuronster.
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Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
oh dont get me started on whole anime child porn issue... thats just sick
Ew. I agree. But, don't worry, Vahn Roi isn't like that. XD
But I knew people who are. >.<
Ew. I agree. But, don't worry, Vahn Roi isn't like that. XD But I knew people who are. >.<
Swampgirl Inez
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Originally Posted by Ira Blinks
oh dont get me started on whole anime child porn issue... thats just sick
Actually, I suggest none of you get near that topic.
1. That a completely off-topic subject from this thread.
2. This is a GW forum, not anime.
3. It has the potential for serious flamebait.
Each one of them a reason to close this thread.
Actually, I suggest none of you get near that topic.
1. That a completely off-topic subject from this thread.
2. This is a GW forum, not anime.
3. It has the potential for serious flamebait.
Each one of them a reason to close this thread.
lyra_song
I hope that pic's not out of line. Anyways. I made this little thing to illustrate how Guild Wars' existing female characters use a distorted, elongated proportion.
Its not a very accurate image, but you can see how elongated the torso section and legs of the guild wars characters are, even with differing body types.
This longer proportion makes the skinny assassin look even more skinny.
Ira Blinks
ummm i dont see anything very different... what exactly the issue again?
Edit: actually I see warrior having much longer legs, but thats it.
Edit: actually I see warrior having much longer legs, but thats it.
nStrife
nice comparison!
i remember reading that the length of anime chicks' bodies were roughly seven heads, as a guideline to sketchin em.
Ive never realized that the female warr's figure was that out of proportion
- vertically moreso than the assassin!
i remember reading that the length of anime chicks' bodies were roughly seven heads, as a guideline to sketchin em.
Ive never realized that the female warr's figure was that out of proportion
- vertically moreso than the assassin!
lyra_song
The average adult human figure is about 7 to 7.5 heads tall.
The idealized human figure is traditionally represented as being 8 heads tall.
Whats interesting is the skinny assasin actually falls within the average human proportion of 7.5 heads tall, while the warrior is 8.5
The idealized human figure is traditionally represented as being 8 heads tall.
Whats interesting is the skinny assasin actually falls within the average human proportion of 7.5 heads tall, while the warrior is 8.5
Ira Blinks
actually now that it has been brought up I am more concerned about back problems of GW females. They all look like their breasts are too heavy for them and they bend back too much because of it... Bent neck and horisontal position of the upper chest (above boobs) dont add to the healthy look either...
nStrife
lol the same could be said for male warriors =S
Rex the Unloving
well male monks are stumpy
bulletsmile
well a human body should cover the lenght of 8 human heads, as you can see the warrior does, but you must not forget that when you are comparing body lenght you must cut away the hair, shoes etc....
anyway they could have some kind of a body size menu, when creating your char you could choose more detailed how your char's bocy is, like a tiny little warrior or a large bulky one
anyway they could have some kind of a body size menu, when creating your char you could choose more detailed how your char's bocy is, like a tiny little warrior or a large bulky one
Vahn Roi
I would like the option to modify age as well. I want an old shriveled up skinny warrior that is app. 4 heads tall and weilds a double headed hammer.
Cjlr
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Originally Posted by generik
Actually no.. right now there are only like say 16 faces to choose from, and a similarly numbered amount of hair styles, and same for skin colour.
Sounds like a lot of storage requirements right?
Wrong.
They can use freaking 5 bits to represent your face, another 5 bits for the skin colour, etc.. your entire character right now can be expressed in little more than the storage requirements of an integer (4 bytes)
Suddenly makes your argument moot doesn't it?
It wasn't really an argument (I wasn't trying to prove anything), but...
There are now (approximately - for the sake of argument I just made these numbers up) 16 faces, 16 hairstyles, 8 hair colours and 8 skin tones. Not really, but bear with me. Storing each piece of data as a two-bit string, that's an eight-digit number to express each character. One byte.
With a dynamic creation system, a la Sims, you end up with thousands of possibilities for the models. The resulting number would be greater than our present number of possibilities, no? So you'd end up with longer strings to store, leaving the required storage space much greater.
Much greater doesn't mean big, though. I never said it took lots of space - at least, I hadn't thought I had. My mind was drifting.. I just said it would take more space.
Sounds like a lot of storage requirements right?
Wrong.
They can use freaking 5 bits to represent your face, another 5 bits for the skin colour, etc.. your entire character right now can be expressed in little more than the storage requirements of an integer (4 bytes)
Suddenly makes your argument moot doesn't it?
It wasn't really an argument (I wasn't trying to prove anything), but...There are now (approximately - for the sake of argument I just made these numbers up) 16 faces, 16 hairstyles, 8 hair colours and 8 skin tones. Not really, but bear with me. Storing each piece of data as a two-bit string, that's an eight-digit number to express each character. One byte.
With a dynamic creation system, a la Sims, you end up with thousands of possibilities for the models. The resulting number would be greater than our present number of possibilities, no? So you'd end up with longer strings to store, leaving the required storage space much greater.
Much greater doesn't mean big, though. I never said it took lots of space - at least, I hadn't thought I had. My mind was drifting.
. I just said it would take more space.
j_unit66
that video that magnus posted is possibly the funniest thing ive ever seen
Morgana
I know I'm a little late, but... ETNA!! <3
(iirc, she was pretty good with a gun as well... possibly not as much as a spear, though)
Gabe's 'Sin is way skinnier than the one we're arguing about... but I think they both look great!
(iirc, she was pretty good with a gun as well... possibly not as much as a spear, though)
Gabe's 'Sin is way skinnier than the one we're arguing about... but I think they both look great!
XeNoGeArZ
The Laughing Man!
EternalTempest
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The Laughing Man!
Was thinking the same things on teh pic. How perfect.
The ones that bother me are the npc female fighters of Tomb of the Anicent Kings...
The ones that bother me are the npc female fighters of Tomb of the Anicent Kings...
Thallandor
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Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
I would like the option to modify age as well. I want an old shriveled up skinny warrior that is app. 4 heads tall and weilds a double headed hammer.
I want to play an old male Elementist and dont forget the pointy hat as well and dull robes
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by Cjlr
The problem with having a Sims-style character creation system is the massive amount of resources it would take.
I'm not sure that's true. Everquest 2 uses a system where you use sliders to change facial/body metrics, and GW could do the same. The character creation was the one thing EQ2 does better than GW, IMO.
Laylooh Cheyenne
lets not blame anet for this,its all NCSOFTS fault for the way the female characters look... see:
http://lineage2.ogaming.com/data/1308~DarkElf.php
thats another game ncsoft fiddles with.
http://lineage2.ogaming.com/data/1308~DarkElf.php
thats another game ncsoft fiddles with.
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Laylooh Cheyenne
lets not blame anet for this,its all NCSOFTS fault for the way the female characters look... see:
http://lineage2.ogaming.com/data/1308~DarkElf.php
thats another game ncsoft fiddles with. OMG! She's hot!
seriously, it's not NCsoft designing characters. I think the "blame" (if there is someone to blame), comes from the whole male-dominated fantasy genre. From the enticing "babes in chainmail" pics on Dragon magazine, to Dark Elves in Warhammer - sex sells!
http://lineage2.ogaming.com/data/1308~DarkElf.php
thats another game ncsoft fiddles with. OMG! She's hot!
seriously, it's not NCsoft designing characters. I think the "blame" (if there is someone to blame), comes from the whole male-dominated fantasy genre. From the enticing "babes in chainmail" pics on Dragon magazine, to Dark Elves in Warhammer - sex sells!
lyra_song
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Originally Posted by Mordakai
OMG! She's hot!
seriously, it's not NCsoft designing characters. I think the "blame" (if there is someone to blame), comes from the whole male-dominated fantasy genre. From the enticing "babes in chainmail" pics on Dragon magazine, to Dark Elves in Warhammer - sex sells! NCsoft is a just a publisher to Guild Wars, whereas they had direct hand with Lineage II.
BTW: even the male dark elves wear thongs, so...dont be so hasty ;P
seriously, it's not NCsoft designing characters. I think the "blame" (if there is someone to blame), comes from the whole male-dominated fantasy genre. From the enticing "babes in chainmail" pics on Dragon magazine, to Dark Elves in Warhammer - sex sells! NCsoft is a just a publisher to Guild Wars, whereas they had direct hand with Lineage II.
BTW: even the male dark elves wear thongs, so...dont be so hasty ;P