Me/W Forgerunner

Dark Luke

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Hey!
I also run from beacons to droks with my me/w! I don't have a warrior primary (and need to save a pvp slot) The build I use looks very similar with only little exceptions:

Illusion of haste
Hex breaker (lasts 30 seconds, gives 15 second window between finished recharge and expiring)
Inspred hex
Balanced stance
Shields up
Healing Signet
Charge (use after IOH got stripped or when you can't afford to stop and recast) or Echo (to copy balanced stance and fill up recharging gap)
Illusion of weakness

And my stats are slightly different:
Fast casting: 9 (so IOH can be recast faster)
Domination magic: 3
Illusion magic: 14 (superior rune here)
Inspiration magic: 2
Tactics: 12

In snake dance I always zone into grenth's footprint, just in case if things goes wrong...

And another note: Illusion of haste doesn't cause crippled if ended prematurely (eg avicara strip enchantments)

Here's a picture of me survived lornar pass carrying 2 of my guild mates:


And here comes the rise of mesmer drok runners!

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Oh yeah, I've seen that build as well. Using shields up is interesting, allows you to have balanced + shields + charge for running past avicara, which is an advantage for sure. I stil prefer distortion for running past other groups though.

Quote:
And another note: Illusion of haste doesn't cause crippled if ended prematurely (eg avicara strip enchantments) That's true. But without shields up on my build, stopping to recast is not very comfortable Echo is a cool idea too, could help on those long wurm areas or places with lots of tundra giants (another place where shields up helps).

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

o.O this is amazing, gonna lvl my mesmer as fast as possible=D

Dark Luke

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

And finally: a video of my entire run (69.6 MB xvid)!

Run duration (full run from beacons to droks) 26:32
Lagged badly in the middle of a tundra giant group, died, wasted 3 minutes...

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Nice, I haven't got around to recording mine, that should help people trying out the build(s).

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Wish i could've recorded my Necros run aswell. Would've been amusing to see where i started taking the piss ever so slightly too much and ended up with 15 health when a group of trolls jumped me while killing some Giants.

I gave mesmer another attempt earlier this week and got totally battered by Wurms at the first corridor.... the damn things wouldn't let up!

Shields up could be pretty useful though, would make Tundra Giants pretty useless too.

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
WOW you know mesmers way to well this is beautiful avarre! You must be Lyssa you must be!, awsome work! All I can say is...blasphemy...

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

If someone wants to name one of the twin goddesses of Lyssa after my character, I'm not complaining

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
If someone wants to name one of the twin goddesses of Lyssa after my character, I'm not complaining If so, who is your twin?

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Any vonlunteers that other mesmers would approve?

Francis Demeules

Francis Demeules

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada, Qc

[Holy]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Any vonlunteers that other mesmers would approve?
/clap

Priceless

Wacky

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Trans Tasman Alliance [TTA]

Me/

They broke Illusion of Haste.

Dark Luke

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Horribly. Not just you're now crippled if stripped, casting illusion of haste won't clear crippled condition anymore...

The only workaround is to recast IOH before it expires, but when you get stripped you're screwed... or use a monk secondary which you won't be able to handle frost wurms and tundra giants...

EDIT: illusion of haste is now fixed so that casting will now clear the crippled condition!

lundis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Ingame

The Monstrous Fangs [fang]

Me/

omg i love all of your builds avarre...
it is so amazing i have to try it!

konohamaru heaven

konohamaru heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Some where in Cantha beyond the Petrified Forest and the Jade Sea

The Amazon Basin

Lyssa has most definately blessed you fellow mesmer and may she continue to thru out your endeavors.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Just a note: with changing of IoH, a cover enchantment is strongly advised for the avicara tunnel. (now you get crippled if it is stripped)

Also, echo works better as an elite for double balanced stance.

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Any vonlunteers that other mesmers would approve? At the risk of getting my head beaten in by the mesmer community... Shouldn't the other 'twin' be an assassin?

Dragannia

Dragannia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Venatio Illuminata [VEIL]

Me/N

I've seen a guy run it with Echo, though personally I prefer Expel.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnipiousMax
At the risk of getting my head beaten in by the mesmer community... Shouldn't the other 'twin' be an assassin? Nope. Mesmers are purely focused on the magical capabilities gifted to them. Assassins are split between balthazar and lyssa, as they are warriors to an extent.

Furthermore, the twins are beauty and illusion. In a lyssan order, the heads would be mesmers, though assassins would have places in the order, however not as theological commanders (military and defence perhaps).

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

Aren't all Sin bonusses bound to Lyssa? ( When you /kneel in front of res shrines in factions )

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Yes, they are. This does not change the fact that physical striking is not Lyssa's expertise. The magic inbued in it, however, is.

Mesmers are pure Lyssan, Assassins are mostly but they cannot rely fully on the might of their minds.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

When Chapter 3 comes out ill name one of my new characters after you, the name shall be 'Avarre Wirlver' !

You are the avatar of Lyssa

Dark Luke

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

With Factions, this is my build for this run:

Illusion of Haste
Expel Hexes (so you can continue running through siege ice golems with balanced stance)
Inspired Hex
Disciplined Stance
Shields Up!
Healing Signet
Balanced Stance
Illusion of Weakness

I don't really need a cover enchantment here, just recast it if gets stripped and try to watch at the avicara necro's skill activation bar

And for the rankor -> droks leg:
Illusion of Haste
Expel Hexes
Chanelling (cover enchant)
Disciplined Stance
Shields Up!
Healing Signet
Balanced Stance
Illusion of Weakness

Not many hexer here so there's room for some dummy enchants here

EDIT: corrected skill name for practiced stance -> disciplined stance.woops

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Practiced Stance? Surely if anything you mean Serpents Quickness.

Illidan Coldage

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Luke

I don't really need a cover enchantment here, just recast it if gets stripped and try to watch at the avicara necro's skill activation bar

And for the rankor -> droks leg:
Illusion of Haste
Expel Hexes
Chanelling (cover enchant)
Practiced Stance
Shields Up!
Healing Signet
Balanced Stance
Illusion of Weakness

Not many hexer here so there's room for some dummy enchants here Sooooo... i'm guessing you have 3 professions since your using Mesmer/Warrior and a Ranger Skill O.o

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

He meant disciplined stance