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lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

18 Apr 2006 at 16:42 - 1

the season aready started but i still cant see the update ...

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

18 Apr 2006 at 16:44 - 2

Damn computer.Anyway,give them time.

Overnite

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

18 Apr 2006 at 16:48 - 3

Or maybey teh gaym is balanced enuff it needs not to be updated mkay ?

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

18 Apr 2006 at 16:50 - 4

are you talki ng about the one they promised after the champoinship? cause that one came a while ago so go check the website for the updates.

Overnite

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

18 Apr 2006 at 16:51 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrow

are you talki ng about the one they promised after the champoinship? cause that one came a while ago so go check the website for the updates.

Whar ?

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

18 Apr 2006 at 16:52 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrow

are you talki ng about the one they promised after the champoinship? cause that one came a while ago so go check the website for the updates.

No, we're talking about the update that was promised to come on the 15th. Lo and behold, it's the 18th, and still no sign.

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

18 Apr 2006 at 16:57 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakumei

No, we're talking about the update that was promised to come on the 15th. Lo and behold, it's the 18th, and still no sign.

oh that one. well i guess something musta happened but i wasn't really excited about it anyway so too bad

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

18 Apr 2006 at 18:42 - 8

Err ... Factions is a week away a skill balance at this point is kind of useless in my opinion.

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

18 Apr 2006 at 18:44 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by leprekan

Err ... Factions is a week away a skill balance at this point is kind of useless in my opinion.

not rly,

there are still things wich need to be fixed.

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

18 Apr 2006 at 18:57 - 10

What I would like to see:

- Nerf Oath Shot (increase recharge or penalty for missing)
- Beef up a lot of ele skills (firestorm, searing heat, etc, etc, still suck)
- Chaos Storm is still a joke.
- Beef up a couple of warrior elites. When was the last time you've seen someone use something other than Eviscerate?
- Nerf channeling. Probably increase casting time and cost, so monks have to invest a bit to have their unlimited enegry.
- Nerf keystone signet. I don't think this needs an explanation.

...and NERF IWAY!!!!

j/k, I would actually like IWAY to stay as it is, because if it becomes even worse, people might stop playing it and the first 3 arenas of HA will stop giving free fame. :P

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

18 Apr 2006 at 19:07 - 11

nerf everything in the game and get started to nerfing things for chapter 2!

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

18 Apr 2006 at 19:19 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

What I would like to see:

- Nerf Oath Shot (increase recharge or penalty for missing)
- Beef up a lot of ele skills (firestorm, searing heat, etc, etc, still suck)
- Chaos Storm is still a joke.
- Beef up a couple of warrior elites. When was the last time you've seen someone use something other than Eviscerate?
- Nerf channeling. Probably increase casting time and cost, so monks have to invest a bit to have their unlimited enegry.
- Nerf keystone signet. I don't think this needs an explanation.

1. Maybe it needs a nerf...maybe.
2. dunno. most fire is overbalanced atm because it was balanced out with the new factions skills.
3. Yes

4. I'll be using the elite Shove once factions comes out

5. Standing in the middle of a pile of enemies isn't investing enough?
6. Actually I might need an explanation for this. I didn't actually know people used that elite...

EDIT: Oops, I overlooked the Chaos Storm comment.

Huntmaster

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

I is not canadien

Guillotine Tactics [GanK]

R/

18 Apr 2006 at 19:24 - 13

Quote:

- Nerf Oath Shot (increase recharge or penalty for missing)

Oath Shot is fine, if anything spirit spam needs a nerf, it's the spirits.. somehow..

Quote:

- Beef up a lot of ele skills (firestorm, searing heat, etc, etc, still suck)

Meh, firestorm still wont be used due to MS being better..

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- Chaos Storm is still a joke.

sounds about right..

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- Beef up a couple of warrior elites. When was the last time you've seen someone use something other than Eviscerate?

Ehh, Cleave is ok, i guess, could use a little buff, sword elites are pretty much fine..

Quote:

- Nerf channeling. Probably increase casting time and cost, so monks have to invest a bit to have their unlimited enegry.

Have you ever played a monk? Channeling is probably the worst energy management for a monk. Not fun at all, the actual range for channeling is pretty tight. (How far you can be from enemies to get the energy..)

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- Nerf keystone signet. I don't think this needs an explanation.

Yeah, sounds about right...

To be honest, i think the biggest nerf needs to go to e-denial. It's too easy to spam..

tuperwho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]

18 Apr 2006 at 19:31 - 14

I was wondering the same thing. They initially said the 15th, then in-game, Gaile corrected this to the 17th. However..... thursday looks likely i.m.o.

antialias02

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Eastern Iowa

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Me/E

18 Apr 2006 at 19:36 - 15

I wouldn't be surprised if the update was today. We just saw the ladder change, and they've probably got everything fine-tuned from the last of the matches. This evening, American time, around 8-9 PM EST is when I expect them to launch the balances.

Call me crazy for such a pinpoint prediction, but I'm guessing sometime today or early tomorrow.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

18 Apr 2006 at 19:37 - 16

So, to summarize a majority of posts in a single statement... nerf skills that hurt my favorite builds and buff the one's I use.

Sigh...

Frank Dudenstein

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

18 Apr 2006 at 19:41 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

- Nerf Oath Shot (increase recharge or penalty for missing)

I think Oath Shot is ok. I mean - if you have a dedicated Spirit Spammer - you are basically going 7 against 8 for the rest of the matches (except for the necro energy engine builds)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

- Beef up a lot of ele skills (firestorm, searing heat, etc, etc, still suck)

Agreed - this has been covered in a bunch of different threads - but Ele damage basically sucks. I think it could be balanced out by making the AoE cover larger areas (and perhaps help out on some of the casting times)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

- Chaos Storm is still a joke.

Uh, yeah. I think 'Nearby' or 'In The Area' would at least give this spell a use. Kind of a variation on Maelstrom - very cool if it affected a large enough area.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

- Beef up a couple of warrior elites. When was the last time you've seen someone use something other than Eviscerate?

You're on the wrong track here - warriors are powerful enough. Eviscerate needs a nerf to bring it in line with the rest of the warrior elites. (except for Skull Crack - I'm still scratching my head on that one)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

- Nerf channeling. Probably increase casting time and cost, so monks have to invest a bit to have their unlimited enegry.

Chanelling is a bit powerful in Heroes Ascent - but unfortunately Monks have no other options against edenial. I think Monks need more energy management options before you talk about nerfing channelling

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alleji

- Nerf keystone signet. I don't think this needs an explanation.

Hmmm, I sense sarcasm.... Actually Keystone Signet is great in a couple of builds - and once Factions arrives (with all of the new signets) I think it may be awesome.

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

18 Apr 2006 at 19:44 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

So, to summarize a majority of posts in a single statement... nerf skills that hurt my favorite builds and buff the one's I use.

Sigh...

Exactly. The only thing that needs to be nerfed is the damn nerf stick.

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

18 Apr 2006 at 19:51 - 19

www.guildwars.com, all u need to know

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

18 Apr 2006 at 19:56 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by leprekan

Err ... Factions is a week away a skill balance at this point is kind of useless in my opinion.

Errr that makes no sense. Why would it be useless just because Factions is on the way? You think the skills balance themselves with a new Chapter? Think about it.

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

18 Apr 2006 at 19:59 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count to Potato

www.guildwars.com, all u need to know

All I need to know? Really? Will it tell me why 42 is the meaning of life, or why kittens sometimes die, or why Tasha had sex with Data?

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

18 Apr 2006 at 20:01 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eet GnomeSmasher

Errr that makes no sense. Why would it be useless just because Factions is on the way? You think the skills balance themselves with a new Chapter? Think about it.

Actually ... YES. With the launch of factions there will be so many new skill/build exploits it will be unreal. Anet will have to do a balance shortly after release so why bother now.

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

18 Apr 2006 at 20:02 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by fgarvin

All I need to know? Really? Will it tell me why 42 is the meaning of life, or why kittens sometimes die, or why Tasha had sex with Data?

[email protected] Kill the mice!!!!!!!!!

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

18 Apr 2006 at 20:05 - 24

Huntmaster, You mean the only sword elite is pretty much fine

Bartuc Galadwor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Alberta, Canada

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]; [SMS] Alliance

W/Mo

18 Apr 2006 at 20:31 - 25

Here is my response from Izzy sent about 2 minutes ago.

=(

Big Tony

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Currently guildless

18 Apr 2006 at 20:40 - 26

Arent the finals or guild tournament or whatever going on right now? I dont think they would change any skills while teams are competing, might change the playing field to favor one guild or another that already uses a build with one of those skills.

Renegade ++RIP++

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

18 Apr 2006 at 20:41 - 27

that blows... I want my skillsupdate... i was looking forward to looking for other combos

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

18 Apr 2006 at 20:45 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartuc Galadwor

Here is my response from Izzy sent about 2 minutes ago.

=(

what? confused me....it looks like he/you whoever messaged themselves.

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

18 Apr 2006 at 20:49 - 29

"Izzy" or Isaiah Cartwright is the skill balancer "chief." (those two names share the same account). If he says there's not going to be a balance chances are there won't, which is a shame.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

18 Apr 2006 at 20:51 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by leprekan

Actually ... YES. With the launch of factions there will be so many new skill/build exploits it will be unreal. Anet will have to do a balance shortly after release so why bother now.

Skill updates dont necessarily mean an entire overhaul of general balance you know. Sometimes it's just to buff up certain skills that need buffing and arent used at all. Or to nerf certain skills that are just too good.

Do you really think something like buffing Otyugh's Cry would be a wasted effort with the introduction of completely new skills?

Release of new skills wouldnt affect these type of changes. So tell me again why it would be pointless?

calamitykell

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

N.Y.C.

18 Apr 2006 at 20:56 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartuc Galadwor

Here is my response from Izzy sent about 2 minutes ago.

=(

That. Sucks.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

18 Apr 2006 at 20:58 - 32

Yeah that does suck. I've been looking forward to it too.

Magnus_1

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

18 Apr 2006 at 20:59 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huntmaster

Ehh, Cleave is ok, i guess, could use a little buff, sword elites are pretty much fine..

Elites? There is only one Sword Elite at the moment. Only one. It's nice that we Sword Warriors get 2 more Elites, but they still seem a little weak.

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

18 Apr 2006 at 21:18 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasareth

"Izzy" or Isaiah Cartwright is the skill balancer "chief." (those two names share the same account). If he says there's not going to be a balance chances are there won't, which is a shame.

Wow, that's very irritating. Guess we'll have to endure.

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

18 Apr 2006 at 21:29 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

Wow, that's very irritating. Guess we'll have to endure.

"I have Endure Pain on me!"

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

18 Apr 2006 at 21:35 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartuc Galadwor

Here is my response from Izzy sent about 2 minutes ago.

=(

"there is not a skil update this season"

I'm crazy enough to believe this may be false.

calamitykell

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

N.Y.C.

18 Apr 2006 at 22:00 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theus

"there is not a skil update this season"

I'm crazy enough to believe this may be false.

Ditto. But I'm on the fence. It is entirely possible that they planned a skill update, but it got bugged or something and rather than shove it out anyway, they chose to withhold it so as not to break certain aspects which are currently working. If this is the case, then this is definitely the right decision.

If they're withholding it because it isn't finished, then I'm disappointed, but I understand and thank them for not rushing a half-complete update to us.

If, however, they just decided to change their minds after Gaile said, repeatedly, that an update is happening, then I will be bothered. I know what Gaile says can't always be taken literally because she relays what she is told, and if someone higher up re-arranges something, it is in no way Gaile's job or responsibility to keep the devs to her word. Though, a little word announcing the change in decision would have been nice ahead of time.

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

18 Apr 2006 at 22:02 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by calamitykell

Ditto. But I'm on the fence. It is entirely possible that they planned a skill update, but it got bugged or something and rather than shove it out anyway, they chose to withhold it so as not to break certain aspects which are currently working. If this is the case, then this is definitely the right decision.

If they're withholding it because it isn't finished, then I'm disappointed, but I understand and thank them for not rushing a half-complete update to us.

If, however, they just decided to change their minds after Gaile said, repeatedly, that an update is happening, then I will be bothered. I know what Gaile says can't always be taken literally because she relays what she is told, and if someone higher up re-arranges something, it is in no way Gaile's job or responsibility to keep the devs to her word. Though, a little word announcing the change in decision would have been nice ahead of time.

I pretty much agree with everything said here.

That said, I'll be really disappointed if there isn't a skill update. I always love balancings--they shake things up, keep them fresh. Here's hoping.

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

18 Apr 2006 at 22:09 - 39

They said there would be another update at the END of the SEASON. They tournement matches have been pushed back multiple times. Which means the balance updates will be pushed back as well.

Tournement is not officially over. Until it is just wait.

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

18 Apr 2006 at 22:14 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by twicky_kid

They said there would be another update at the END of the SEASON. They tournement matches have been pushed back multiple times. Which means the balance updates will be pushed back as well.

Tournement is not officially over. Until it is just wait.

The season is over. EviL won. The ladder has been unlocked.

But still no update.