ECTOS etc still worth anything in Factions? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

savvy83

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

AzN - The Asian Network

Mo/W

20 Apr 2006 at 15:22 - 1

what do u guys think? will ectos, crystalline swords, dwarvens axes and all those rare and exotic items still be worth the money in factions?

i'm really afraid ectos prices will dip like shiat :P

but then again, if assassins and ritualists have nice FoW armors, ectos would still be in demand. let's just hope they don't reset the prices of ectos / black dyes or those sort of items when faction comes, so those ppl who have factions preview won't be able to buy them like for 500g each or something, lol!

what are ur views?

noocoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

20 Apr 2006 at 15:28 - 2

Imo, about ectos,
if Rt and Asn's fow armors will be added, or other classes' fow armors will have new Canthan stats which we can craft in fow, the price of ecto will raise again.

But, if no.............
ecto will never deserve anything.

Its like gamble.

Rebel Dragon

Lion's Arch Merchant

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W/Mo

20 Apr 2006 at 15:31 - 3

well for some its a big gamble.. some people have about 250 ectos or even more... so when ectos prices drop with 2k they simply jsut lose 500k!!!

ouach...

Lady Erighan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defenders of Gods

E/Me

20 Apr 2006 at 15:31 - 4

I don't think R's or A's will have FoW armor seeing how they can only "start" the game in Cantha. Yes, they can travel back and forth once created, but I'm betting you can only get your armor from Canthian NPCs. I'm guessing FoW equivalent armor will be available from a new location in Cantha

This means the demand for Ectos and Shards will drop. However, there will be less people farming and/or exploring FoW and UW when Factions is released, which will create less supply. So, it may be a gamble either way.

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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20 Apr 2006 at 15:44 - 5

In the radio interview (part 2), the developer mentioned the two "new" materials where Jade and Amber and said they were the "ecto and shard" of factions and there bought with Faction points.

I think they will drop / stay low because the new armor looks much better then FOW does but it will be supply and demand.

Dracus Steelbow

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20 Apr 2006 at 15:45 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Erighan

I don't think R's or A's will have FoW armor seeing how they can only "start" the game in Cantha.

They will have foW armor so to speak, but not from the Fissure, Gaile has already said that they will have new armor just like the curent FoW armor, that means ecto, and shards, might still be used.

baz777

Jungle Guide

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20 Apr 2006 at 15:48 - 7

I only have 40 Ecto’s and am pondering if to keep or sell them before faction is released. But then again, what would I substitute them with?

Until Factions is released speculative stockpiling is a gamble.

I’ve seen many posts on here where people intend to have one of the new characters as a second profession so Ecto’s may keep their value or even increase in the future.

Besides, Ecto’s and Shards have formed such an essential part of the economy that I believe it would be unfair to completely exclude them on the release of Factions.

Lady Erighan

Wilds Pathfinder

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20 Apr 2006 at 15:51 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Erighan

I don't think R's or A's will have FoW armor seeing how they can only "start" the game in Cantha.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracus Steelbow

They will have foW armor so to speak, but not from the Fissure, Gaile has already said that they will have new armor just like the curent FoW armor, that means ecto, and shards, might still be used.

Hence, the second sentence that follows the one above...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Erighan

I'm guessing FoW equivalent armor will be available from a new location in Cantha.

fiery

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maryland

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20 Apr 2006 at 16:05 - 9

Please and I mean please make more threads relating ectos and shards in Factions, I just can't get enough of them!

Burton2000

Wilds Pathfinder

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Mo/Me

20 Apr 2006 at 16:15 - 10

Gaile has already said that assasin and ritualist will have FoW armur from the Fissure of woe.Can't wait to get it for my ritualist hopefully it will look nice.

Lady Erighan

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20 Apr 2006 at 16:19 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burton2000

Gaile has already said that assasin and ritualist will have FoW armur from the Fissure of woe.Can't wait to get it for my ritualist hopefully it will look nice.

I'm really interested in this. Does anyone have a screen shot or link of Gaile saying this? Personally, I've only seen her say they will have FoW "equivalent armor".

Farmermancer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

20 Apr 2006 at 16:21 - 12

I have 105 Ectos and shard right now and just told myself that if theres Assasin & Ritualist FoW, then sell them right away since everyone will want to be "the first" with new char FoW. If there isn't, I'll just get FoW for my exsisting character and be "old school" for about 3 months. Play Factions just as I would normally with no 1000K starting gold, I think saving insane amounts for a game ahead of time ruins incentive for me to explore and enjoy it normally. Plus, if I wait a month or 2 everyone farms down prices, such that their doing the work for me. Mwahahaha mascarading as a low type consumer rocks your face! Take that intertemporal price discrimination!

Sir Skullcrasher

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W/Mo

20 Apr 2006 at 16:35 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burton2000

Gaile has already said that assasin and ritualist will have FoW armur from the Fissure of woe.Can't wait to get it for my ritualist hopefully it will look nice.

I don't know if Gaile said there is FoW armors for assasin and ritualist in Tyria? If i didn't see the wrong screenshot, i think she said FoW equivalent armors.

boxterduke

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20 Apr 2006 at 16:38 - 14

Yeah I cannot rememeber which thread (or Gaile log) but Ritualist and Assassins will have FoW armor.
I rememeber when they annonced that, Ectos were selling for 5.5k from people and it jumped to 9k that day since people started to buy a lot of them.

{IceFire}

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

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20 Apr 2006 at 17:01 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Erighan

I don't think R's or A's will have FoW armor seeing how they can only "start" the game in Cantha. Yes, they can travel back and forth once created, but I'm betting you can only get your armor from Canthian NPCs. I'm guessing FoW equivalent armor will be available from a new location in Cantha

This means the demand for Ectos and Shards will drop. However, there will be less people farming and/or exploring FoW and UW when Factions is released, which will create less supply. So, it may be a gamble either way.

agreed completely.

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

20 Apr 2006 at 19:36 - 16

People have spent a lot of time and effort getting hold of FoW armour, I don't see Anet doing anything to piss them all off. There may be "different" armours in Factions but I doubt they will do anything to make FoW any less than what it currently represents - top of the line.

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

20 Apr 2006 at 19:42 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiery

Please and I mean please make more threads relating ectos and shards in Factions, I just can't get enough of them!

Do they turn you on?

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

20 Apr 2006 at 20:04 - 18

FoW armour will always be there and Ectos are good 'currency' to make big trades so I don't see any radical changes into that area.

Many of us have storages full of ecto stacks and I think the price of ectos is almost rock bottom right now. As well as shard prices.

MelechRic

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RA

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N/Mo

20 Apr 2006 at 20:41 - 19

One of the things that's interesting and related to this why people are paying high prices for things like 15^50 fellblades/musraat bows etc. When I think about spending plat on those things I'm always stopped short by the lurking thought that Factions may have something more cool looking and more valuable.

Maybe they're a safe bet now, but within a week or two they may be much less sought after.

Am I being paranoid?

Rhuobhe

Wilds Pathfinder

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20 Apr 2006 at 20:51 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Erighan

I'm really interested in this. Does anyone have a screen shot or link of Gaile saying this? Personally, I've only seen her say they will have FoW "equivalent armor".

I believe Gaile said this the night of "the outage" when shard prices were reset.

So look for the log on whatever day that was.

Tigers Anger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

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20 Apr 2006 at 21:06 - 21

Personally i've sold all my shards and ectos before theres a price crash. I hope to see a price crash so I can buy FoW armor for my characters and possibly good 15^50 fellblades and chaos axes because everyones addicted to these new Factions items and I can finally afford my dream weapons

MelechRic

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N/Mo

20 Apr 2006 at 21:30 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigers Anger

Personally i've sold all my shards and ectos before theres a price crash. I hope to see a price crash so I can buy FoW armor for my characters and possibly good 15^50 fellblades and chaos axes because everyones addicted to these new Factions items and I can finally afford my dream weapons

The problem for me at least, is that there might be new dream weapons in Factions that will quickly make me forget about the old Prophecies weapons.

savvy83

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Mo/W

20 Apr 2006 at 22:01 - 23

i have 500 ectos and 1.4m so i was thinking if i needed to sell my ectos n pick up nice items. but then again, wut if the weapons no longer worth well
in factions? lol i'd rather stick with ectos than weaps

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

20 Apr 2006 at 22:23 - 24

everyone ll be after the new skins.. so except for the Crystalline/Dwarven/Sickle .. all the other prices should go down

Ludi Cigan

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20 Apr 2006 at 22:50 - 25

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coldplay

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Daoine Sidhe

20 Apr 2006 at 22:53 - 26

I will try to look for items have more stable value to stock

db0y

Frost Gate Guardian

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20 Apr 2006 at 23:09 - 27

The thing that's going to be worth a lot are Amber & Jades.

(the new ecto & shards)

Lady Erighan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defenders of Gods

E/Me

21 Apr 2006 at 14:53 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by db0y

The thing that's going to be worth a lot are Amber & Jades.

(the new ecto & shards)

I highly doubt it. Amber and Jade will not only drop (we think) from monsters or be crafted from merchants, but it will be farmed through faction earned by completing quests and missions. For this reason alone, they will never reach the prices that of Ecto/Shards/Rubies/Sapphires. They will be just too easy to aquire. For the first week or two they may be pretty expensive, but as more and more people progress through the game their value will decrease drastically.

AxeMe

Lion's Arch Merchant

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21 Apr 2006 at 15:55 - 29

I think the big idea here - as expressed by an earlier poster - is that prices will be crazy for the first few weeks.

We've seen it on a small scale when a new green becomes part of the game. Or when the IDS started dropping. Prices are sky high for a while and then drop to sensible levels.

I plan to avoid making any major purchases for the first month or so. By doing that I may miss some early bargains but - based on the way the game economy has worked in the past - I'll save more than I lose.

Ectos? Really no one knows what will happen and - other than developers and a few others - won't know until Factions is out and running. But I do think that if ectos take a huge drop (I doubt that they will) shortly before Factions I'll be buying.

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

21 Apr 2006 at 16:05 - 30

So some actually think that FoW armour becomes cheaper when Factions arrives...erhmm

...

I think it was Meant to be there as Gold Sink. So I wonder if the logical guess would be that Ectos & Shards won't drop from this point and their price remaines somewhat same.

Last thing we need is everyone buying FoW armor with only spending 100k of their money.

Cybah

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21 Apr 2006 at 16:17 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by db0y

The thing that's going to be worth a lot are Amber & Jades.

(the new ecto & shards)

hehe no! they are needed for 15k only.

I HIGHLY doubt fow2-armor will require them too.

My opinion will steady: ectos & shards won't drop.

Count to Potato

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21 Apr 2006 at 16:33 - 32

I think a new way into FoW, and UW will be accseisble from Cantha

leprekan

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21 Apr 2006 at 16:38 - 33

Would be nice if Anet had allowed more storage for gold. There are many of us that lose millions everytime the ecto market farts.

Parn

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21 Apr 2006 at 17:26 - 34

I remember reading Gailes logs somewher on here. Saying "Fow armor will still be FOW armor" ,Fow/UW will have more acess points and cantha will have Underground areas harder then prophecies underworld and fissure.

Lady Erighan

Wilds Pathfinder

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Defenders of Gods

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21 Apr 2006 at 18:41 - 35

Thanks Parn. That's exactly what I thought. So, it's "safe" to "assume" Ecto and Shards will most likely drop even more. There are still many people hoarding Ecto (supply) thinking Rits and Sins will be wanting to get FoW armor, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen (no demand).

Cybah

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21 Apr 2006 at 19:19 - 36

you can sell all your ectos to me, 4k each.

dudes.... fow2-armor will require fow2-materials. not amber & jade, not ectos and shards either.

there might be a new highend armor which is not as expansive as fow armor...

MysticoN

Academy Page

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21 Apr 2006 at 19:28 - 37

My theory is that ecto and shards will get more valued after faction , maybe not so much but a little. Since more and more will start to go over to faction (not that they will stop prophesy) they will start to focus on buying materials for faction armors. So people who want fissure armor in the future will have more pain in the butt since it will most likely be less people selling or gathering ectos and shards. But hey , I could be wrong

noocoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

21 Apr 2006 at 20:15 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by MysticoN

My theory is that ecto and shards will get more valued after faction , maybe not so much but a little. Since more and more will start to go over to faction (not that they will stop prophesy) they will start to focus on buying materials for faction armors. So people who want fissure armor in the future will have more pain in the butt since it will most likely be less people selling or gathering ectos and shards. But hey , I could be wrong

Partly correct I guess

Maybe few ppl will go to fow or uw farming for ectos and shards after GWF release, but now many ppl have a lot of ectos and just store them because of full money storage, so they will also be big suppliers of ectos in GWF.

Besides, they don want to craft fow armor and just sell their ecto when their money is used in GWF.

Hard to raise price due to this.

cherikku

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

21 Apr 2006 at 21:14 - 39

Noooooo, it took me so long to save up ectos and shards for As and rit fissure armors , and now no fissure

/sigh /pout

MMSDome

Raged Out

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21 Apr 2006 at 21:23 - 40

i dont belive ecto's and shards affect Ritualists and Assassains will have armors in Tyria seeing as they are Canthan and the Forgemaster has nothing to do with Cantha. Ectos and shards will drop because not as many people will want them, i look forward to this because i like seeing Great depressions and inflation happening