Will Ectos Drop Value when Factions is release Im Scared. o.o;'

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Ichigo Yamato
Ascalonian Squire
#1
Ok I was wondering If Ectos will DROP in value when factions comes out because most likely a majority of the players will be playing in Factions. A lot of people have invested there money in Ectos. Or will the opposite happen? Since Supposely not many will be farming as much in toa,tombs,hoh since they all are to busy playing factions will ecto prices go UP?

1 More Question - Is it Wise to Buy Sapphires and Rubies Now Since there Cheap? Like stack on them before they jack up in price when factions comes out?

What Should I Do with my Ectos?
1 - Sell All of them
2 - Keep all of them
3 - Convert to Cash
4 - Convert to Cash and Buy Rubies and Saphires
Sereng Amaranth
Sereng Amaranth
Desert Nomad
#2
Keep them.
Reason?
Assassin and Ritualist Obsidian Armor.
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Ichigo Yamato
Ascalonian Squire
#3
oh so Ectos are still in play in factions? Someone told me they arent im so confused @_@ exactly whut materials are needed for factions armor?
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Pillz_veritas
Krytan Explorer
#4
I would honestly get rid of them as fast as possible... The Cantha FoW armor equivlent doesnt use them as Gaile said
demon dantes
demon dantes
Krytan Explorer
#5
well the first response says it all obsidian ar lol would make u beleive obby shards if they say they r gunna have ecto armor then id save them but the prices have been dropping at a rapid rate id use the for a high end item or sell for cash
Jedimagician
Jedimagician
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
i wouldnt buy rubies and saphires incase you dont need them in factions.
Kidney Licker
Kidney Licker
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
My vote is to hold onto them (the ectos). It doesn't make sense for them not to have a use in Factions. If A.Net keep rolling out Chapters there needs to be some sense of consistency among them, otherwise they'll lose players. Continually rolling out new materials and devaluing previously valuable materials doesn't make any sense to me.

Even though FOW armour may not have a use for them, I'm kinda hoping they have another use, eg a FOW Weapon Smith that requires ectos and shards to forge weapons.
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Ichigo Yamato
Ascalonian Squire
#8
This is just my thought on gems,ecto and shards.
We all know chapter 2 can be a stand alone game. Meaning you do not have to have Prophecies. Therefor if any armor or items require these materials, Factions will have it's own areas where they drop. This also means if they are used in Factions and a person already has Prophecies they will have more areas to farm these materials. (more areas = price drop)
I honestly can't see them using ectos and shards in chapter 2, for the very reason I just stated. Also what better way to level the playing field again. Change the rare materials then take what they have learned about farming from the 1st and apply it to future chapters.

Just a thought

some guy said that at gameamp.com in one of the forums does it make sense?
Wouldnt Ecto be less desired since new FOW is available and cause a price drop anyways?
VGJustice
VGJustice
Desert Nomad
#9
Ichigo Yamato, it's simply too hard to say. They could go wildly in either direction. It's all really just speculation and guess work until Factions is released.

My personal feelings on the matter is to keep the ectos. There's a chance that the value will go up, due to new players on Prophecies and the potential of Factions armor needing the materials (unlikely).
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Dralspire
Retired
#10
You have stated the respective reasons why the price of ecto may go up or down. There is no reliable way to anticipate the direction the price will take, especially as we do not know whether existing drop rates may be modified to accommodate market shifts. On that note, if you consider using ectoplasm, keep it. If you do not plan to use it an have space in your gold holdings, liquidate.

Buying rubies and sapphires - just like all other investment activities in the game - only makes sense if you actually have gold to invest. Some may argue that even low volume investments are reasonable due to their speculative nature, but I believe that you will not be able to sustain your investment (i.e. be able to wait it out if needed) if you are strapped for gold. Most players that I have seen invest prematurely took losses when they had to liquidate due to urgent gold needs. As such, my advice is to consider investing only if you have gold reserves exceeding 1 million gold (a.k.a. 1,000 platinum) "in cash".

If you are in such a position, diversify. Any items that can be stacked are reasonable investments. I cannot recommend investing all your gold into gems. Rather, invest into gems, ectoplasm, shards, other rare and common materials, dyes.

However, even if you consider investments, keeping an amount of around 900 platinum in gold makes sense so that you have gold available in order to cover short-term needs.
Blaster The Warrior
Blaster The Warrior
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
so i sold all my ecto for nothing ? again i only got cash now.
but i see ecto price go up and down.
lennymon
lennymon
Forge Runner
#12
If you sold all your ectos for fear of a financial loss, yes its all for nothing. Only the brave and the foolhardy risk, and only the brave go to Valhalla.
Keep em! why WOULDNT assassins and ritualists be able to buy fissure armor with similar crafting material requisites since FoW is IN PROPHESIES not factions campaign?
Witchblade
Witchblade
Polar Bear Attendant
#13
looks like there wont be Fow sets for assa/ritualist
and also no new crafters in fow ... Gaile said it's done and fine like it is :/
so looks like ecto have a use now for the sets.. and things wont change

ecto is a gold sink, remember, the best gold sink they can do now is hoping ppl will keep em.. ectos wont have a use in factions, if the ecto price drops, that's the best gold sink EVER
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Fourex
Ascalonian Squire
#14
I think there will be Fissure armour for Assasins and Ritualists, which will be separate from a rare (eqivalent) Factions armour available to all professions.

I just think why not, because we are able to take Assasins and Ritualists throught Tyria (if we own both chapters). It would be disappointing to get to the Forgemaster and have no selection available.
Hockster
Hockster
Banned
#15
Why wouldn't there be FoW armor for the new classes? Upgrading your Prophecies account with a Factions key allows you to start a new Assassin or Ritualist in Ascalon if you want.
Mega Storm
Mega Storm
Frost Gate Guardian
#16
Something i've been wondering myself...here's my thoughts. Remember when the merchants were selling runes and materials super cheep? They reset the game because of the effect it would have had on the GW ecconomey. If they would go to such lengths to fix something like that instead of letting people just buy tons of ectos that day, and changing the price, at the merchants, then why would they want to kill off the ecto ecconomey? I just don't see them fixing the problem 1 day and making the ectos worth nothing or dye out later on. I'm keeping them.

Not everyone will buy Factions as stated. Some people will need those ectos for chapter 1 FOW armor and gold storage at the very least even if there is no use for ectos in Factions. But i'm prety sure ectos will have some kind of use other than FOW armor soon.
baz777
baz777
Jungle Guide
#17
I didn’t have many Ecto’s but converted mine last weekend into 20x black dyes and 10x Sup Vigor
ShadowStorm
ShadowStorm
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
Personally, I think right at the release of Factions, maybe a day or two later, the price of ectos will drop drastically. Like down to 2-4K each. People will realize that Factions has no use for ectos and shards and they'll sell all the ectos they had stockpiled in order to recoup their losses. Then, as time goes on, maybe a couple months down the road, ectos will start to rise in price again. This will be because 50-75% of the Guild Wars population moved on to Factions and stopped pulling ectos out of UW. Just because new armors are available in Factions doesn't mean that FoW armor will suddenly become unwanted. People will slowly start to buy up ectos again to get themselves FoW armor and without the farmers to replenish the supply, the price will start to rise again.

The only thing that will change this forcast is FoW armor for Ritualists and Assassins. If A-Net decides to release these armors when they release Factions, the price of ecto will drop a small amount because Ritualist and Assassin are only 2 classes. If there are only 2 new armor models available through ectos, people will buy up their new FoW armors and then dump the rest of the ectos at the trader. Hence a flood of ectos at the trader and a price drop. Though the drop will be smaller, because some of the ectos will be used up first.

Now if A-Net decides to make FoW armor for Assassins and Ritualists, but not release it with Factions, there will be the predicted huge drop in ecto price like I talked about in the first paragraph. However, when A-Net gets around to releasing the armor, the price will spike up higher than it is now because the lack of farmers supplying ectos will leave the traders empty and people will suddenly have a need for them again. After a couple months of 17-20K ectos, the prices will even out again to about a little lower than they are now. Probably about 4-5K.

So. If you have ectos stockpiled right now, you can sell them all now and take no risk. Or you can wait for Factions and see if they release new FoW armor at the same time, in which case, you'll probably want to hold on to them for a little longer, until everyone has their sets and are done selling their ectos to the trader. That's when the price will start to go up again and you can make a profit. If FoW armor isn't released with Factions, don't worry, A-Net may eventually get around to providing the new FoW armor, just like they eventually got around to updating many of the 15K armor sets at Grotto and Citadel. You'll be able to make your profit eventually, but you'll be poor for quite a while as you watch the price of your assets drop into nothingness.
Hockster
Hockster
Banned
#19
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowStorm
People will realize that Factions has no use for ectos and shards
You know this to be a fact?
ShadowStorm
ShadowStorm
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
You know this to be a fact?
Just a second, I'll go looking for the Gaile Grey interview in which she says exactly that. I'll edit my post and show you.