oro and FA nerfed

dagoth

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

servants of the dark

Mo/R

iv been hearing rumors that oro and FA were nerfed is this true???

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Yes. - -

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

Some say yes, others who just got done say no

biffog

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/Mo

yesssssss

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

please enlighting us who dont know excluisvily what oro and fa usally do and "what" got nerfed.

Kidney Licker

Kidney Licker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Europe Server

In the thread on the 4/25 Update ppl are saying the gear trick was nerfed.

With the multiple updates/builds that have occurred can someone confirm?

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

The 'gear trick' is not nerfed. The 'gear trick' has been fixed.

It used to be that carrying items caused one character to automatically gain aggro. This is no longer the case.

Kidney Licker

Kidney Licker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Europe Server

hehe











There are so many warriors who will be soooo happy now.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Take their Gryffons, take their books, take their gears. Real happy indeed.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

This is good news indeed. We might finally see some skill return to the game. Probably not, but one can hope.

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

I dunno if skill will return without cheap builds showing up as well. If you saw the kinds of changes they made to skills during that short period of the crazy update, there is gonna be some major funtime antics going on with that Balt's Spirit. 26 bloodly nrg per hit is the most insane thing I've ever heard of. It would make my farming a lil easier but it's a lil over kill and I'm hoping that's not the finished product of how they'll change it. During the short time we could play it, we found a primary monk smiter pwned all in the arenas with the mass nrg from balt's. I do like the idea though of getting more nrg from balt's spirit to counter NR, and to be able to maintain mass bonds. It's very rare that you're team is taking enough constant dmg to be able to maintain the max 14 bonds, but if they change balt's spirit even slightly in favor of the way they changed it tonight, 14 bonds would be quite the slice of pie

I'm imagining the day when 3-4 55 monks bond eachother up in a GvG and just stand there invincible with the now usable prot bond and all their other enchants.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

The skill changes weren't intended to be released as they were obviouly not completely tested yet.

Zaxan Razor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Organised Spam [OS]

W/

Woot! Finally!!

This means i might actually be tempted to make my ritualist during the headstart now

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

FA and oro are still very possible with a good monk and a warrior that knows how to aggro. Its about time we stopped depending on all those wammo's to protect us.

Blaster The Warrior

Blaster The Warrior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

-_- another fix that makes the game more boring -__-

Pi_Numurian

Pi_Numurian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Numurian Vanguard

Me/R

kind of stort of

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster The Warrior
-_- another fix that makes the game more boring -__-
oh noes i cant farm the greens anymore and i might actualy have to use some skill to get through SF.

Get over it.

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster The Warrior
-_- another fix that makes the game more boring -__-
Guess you'll have to look for your excitement from other things than holding a gear.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

If that was exciting, I feel very sorry for his real life, uhhh, existance.

Kityn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Michigan

Heroes of the Horn [HoH]

N/

What could be more boring than just standing there while your group does most of the work?
Gear Trick was an exploit.Now it is fixed.It is not a Nerf.

Mindcrime

Mindcrime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Sweden

[Dark]

W/Mo

ahh, they finally did something against the item aggro maker. I'm not suprised either since I noticed in the factions preview. That Ritualist had elite skills that could transform offensive/defensive items. Making the Ritualist to a deadly aggro 55 priest.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
If that was exciting, I feel very sorry for his real life, uhhh, existance.
Hehe, what about us poor bonders.

Either groups stop taking us because bonding is the most thing in PvE already without having to bond 7 people for a full FoW trip. Would eliminate those shitty 4-6man trips to FoW that keep appearing late at night though. Seriously i just can't be arsed to do trips where if 1 person drops its all over.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dagoth
iv been hearing rumors that oro and FA were nerfed is this true???
Quests are still the same, I already did a run of them. People just can't exploit the key/gear trick anymore. Which is good, about time they fixed it.

disposable-hero

disposable-hero

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

MU tants [MU]

N/

all it means is the tank must be good at controlling aggro rather than the whole team being able to run in and not get hit.

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

I can hear it now... 10,000 screams of dying ele nukers in FoW(cause they just love to start arggo before the tank and cast meteor storm)

SlipknotOFA

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Newport Ky

Order Of Fallen Angels

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Asrial
The 'gear trick' is not nerfed. The 'gear trick' has been fixed.

It used to be that carrying items caused one character to automatically gain aggro. This is no longer the case.
0.o yes fixed thats it...

Mtank325

Mtank325

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Crimson Blood Dragons [CBD]

Maybe now I'll be able to find a party in the Warcamp for actually doing SF quests now.

skretth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Australia

nerfed... no

fixed.. yes

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E
I can hear it now... 10,000 screams of dying ele nukers in FoW(cause they just love to start arggo before the tank and cast meteor storm)
I know

I only do it vs sensible groups though. I'm not a total idiot who casts MS against warriors to start agro. I do it vs groups where most of them are casters (like the 2 Mes 2 Mo groups in the forge). Starting with MS while everythings in range is much better than the tank agroing then running back scattering them.

floplag

floplag

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

SoCal

Gamerz United

Me/N

nerfed ... no ... put back to the way it was intended .. yes

you really think they introduced these new areas, and made all the really cool greens, so they could be farmed to the point of worthlessness in record time ?

it never should have been that easy.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lykan
oh noes i cant farm the greens anymore and i might actualy have to use some skill to get through SF.

Get over it.
Please spare us the satire. It really is tiresome to see people acting like this.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

well, its wasnt en exploit when you're the monk carrying to staff of Orr, let me tell you! :P

SlipknotOFA

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Newport Ky

Order Of Fallen Angels

Mo/Me

nefed yes fixed highly doubt it .... I can adapt to it shouldnt have to thou them con changing stuff gets old

Cuban

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaKai
Please spare us the satire. It really is tiresome to see people acting like this.
In agreement with this one, really tired of the people that get happy when someone else worries about something they actually like doing. I have farmed UW, FoW & SF. I am not totally freaked about them fixing things, but I am concerned about the possible monthly charge language in their new user end license.

From the guildwars website legal section:

NC Interactive reserves the right to alter the fees payable for new Chapters or introduce alternative fee structures for the Service. Any alteration to the purchase price will be posted on the Web Site at least 30 days prior to such alteration taking effect. If you do not agree to any such alteration, you should not purchase the new Chapter and/or you should terminate your Account prior to the date on which the alteration takes effect, otherwise the revised amount will automatically be debited to your Account.

^That worries me.

Ashleigh McMahon

Ashleigh McMahon

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

North East England

WoTU[Warlords of the Underworld]

Mo/Me

What he said ^-^
It's simply a bug fix. If HA had a "gain rank fast trick" most of the players would want it fixed to stop abusers, but some people would just simply love to abuse it to get ahead of time.

Regards,
Ashleigh


Quote:
Originally Posted by Asrial
The 'gear trick' is not nerfed. The 'gear trick' has been fixed.

It used to be that carrying items caused one character to automatically gain aggro. This is no longer the case.

LittleBull

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Opeth11
Take their Gryffons, take their books, take their gears. Real happy indeed.
I think he was refering to the one's that can actually play the game, not
the ones that are willing to be imitation logs with an IQ of... 3 maybe?

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaKai
Please spare us the satire. It really is tiresome to see people acting like this.
Its just as tiresome seeing the words

'LF 1 Bonder 1 Stance Warrior for FoW (book trick)'

Before you could do things normally, then all of a sudden everyone was using the frigging book!

There is only 1 item i can see a logical reason for gaining agro.

Dragons Eggs in Glints Lair, the only single item i can actually understand as drawing agro.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Its about time.
It was getting ridiculous with all the farming runs.
People that just go there to do quests do not get anything dropped for them anymore.

Rainy Ico

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Has anyone tried using ele wards to farm? I'm thinking about using the tomb build and seeing if it will work with this.

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

Love how people use the word Nerfed all the time, like they understand the meaning. This was a fix, so the Monster AI would do what it should do, attack us all, not just someone holding some meaningless item. Griffon Farming wasn't nerfed. A new boss was added to a section in the desert where SOME griffons were, so they don't have as many griffons to farm in that particular area, but there are still some there and some in other places.