New "Titles" system

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

Updates:

* Added a Titles tab to the Hero panel. Full support for titles, including the display of titles to other players, will not be available until the release of Guild Wars Factions.

This looks promising. Finally a system to distinguish individual players instead of making everyone a spec in the sea of John Does. Only question is does anyone have any ideas how this system works?

maedrarle

maedrarle

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Deicidal Tendencies

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Quote:
GameSpot: We hear that Guild Wars Factions will include an all-new feature that will let players earn titles for their characters, such as "hero," "gladiator," and "champion." Tell us about these titles and how players will go about earning them.

James Phinney: Titles are intended to give players recognition for extraordinary achievements. Some titles are associated with a player's account, such as "champion," which recognizes your achievements in guild-versus-guild combat. Some titles are associated with individual characters, such as "Tyrian Explorer," which recognizes your persistence and ingenuity in visiting every possible nook and cranny in the continent of Tyria.

Many titles have multiple levels. For example, the first level of "skill hunter" requires that you capture 90 elite skills with a single character. You become an "adept skill hunter" when you reach a total of 135 elite skills. Capturing that many skills is an incredible accomplishment.

You can choose only one title to display at a time, but a single character can have multiple titles. Whenever you uncover a new part of the world map of Tyria, for example, you make progress toward a "Tyrian Explorer" title. This does not diminish or alter any progress you've made toward a "gladiator" title, which is earned through victories in the random arenas.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/guild...8&page=1&q=&q=

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

Wow nice. I wonder if there's a title for total acquired Faction points, that would be great!

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

I wonder if there's an afk or idle title, lol.

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

I believe it's called the Adept Moss Gatherer

natus

natus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

And the highest title of afk would be called Sai of Winterland?

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

I think this will also help the 'Rankism'

If teamleaders can see that you have a title, then they know you have at LEAST spent some time on the game and know it well.

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

titles = crappest of the crap useless retarded so called reward, still no imagination anet and absolute shite compared to the pvp fame emotes

jmj102

jmj102

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Join Date: Dec 2005

W/Mo

I pray to god this doesnt bring in elite-ism into pve.

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

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Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmj102
I pray to god this doesnt bring in elite-ism into pve.
Ditto. While it seems like a cool idea initially, I can see team leaders wanting to see your rank now before letting you into a PuG. Since it's based on your char and not your account, I hope it won't be like that.

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

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For example, the first level of "skill hunter" requires that you capture 90 elite skills with a single character.
Character???

To do that, you'd have to switch secondary profession multiple times.

I take it, they ment to say "account".

Hell Raiser

Hell Raiser

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

[PHNX]

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no they meant to say what they said, titles aren't supposed to be easily obtainable you have to actually WORK for them, 90 elites across an account is easy, 90 accounts on one character is part of the challenge, if it were across the account everyone would have it or at least be close

Woutsie

Woutsie

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

it owns. IT OWNS!!

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

Whats wrong with elitism? I used to give the unranked a chance by allowing them into my groups. I'd meticulously plan out a strategy for the team etc. with careful timings and pre-arranged actions etc. and it's always the unranked noobies who screw it all up. For instance one time this guy told me he was a Rank 2 and I was like: meh ok so long as you know what to do. We ended up fighting the altar map with the rez orb. The idiot runs up, picks up the rez orb then drops it on the ground (despite him being a warrior). This occurence isn't isolated, the number of low ranked players demonstrating this kind of idiocy has forced me to impose rank limitations (I'm rank 11 but I accept as low as Rank 3 people now but nothing less).

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Raiser
no they meant to say what they said, titles aren't supposed to be easily obtainable you have to actually WORK for them, 90 elites across an account is easy, 90 accounts on one character is part of the challenge, if it were across the account everyone would have it or at least be close
I'd agree if we were talking about the top level. But this is only for the first level! Having to switch secondary profession twice to reach the first skill hunter level sounds clearly over the top to me.

asdar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Yeah, this is great!

Now every time we want to get into a mission group we'll have to be ridiculed and humiliated just like rank in HA.

Big thumbs up for the decision to make PvE just a little bit more unfriendly.

QoH

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Divine Beings

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Quote:
Originally Posted by d3kst3r
Wow nice. I wonder if there's a title for total acquired Faction points, that would be great!
i don't think this can be done fairly. Example: I unlocked almost everything in pve, then started pvp. I have a total of slightly over 200k faction and i can't spend my points since half year, in other words i hasn't gained any points in the last 6 months.

if you talking about luxon/kurzick faction, then that's a different story.

Snowman

Snowman

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jmj102
I pray to god this doesnt bring in elite-ism into pve.
I dont see how it can tbh... the reason is that they are going to be so damn hard to get..

as for PUG's.. I dont really care who I pickup.. all missions can be completed with henchies anyway, a PUG just makes it more interesting.

In anycase... how on earth does the exploration badge, or the skill capper badge give any indication as to how good you are able to work in a team?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ed-zep
titles = crappest of the crap useless retarded so called reward, still no imagination anet and absolute shite compared to the pvp fame emotes
You suck!

Sidra

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CT

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"GLF 4 more, must display good title" << i'm going to hate this.

LordMahal

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Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

R/Mo

From my understanding there are some based on XP too. All in all, it doesnt matter what your rank or title is, its how you play the mission at hand that counts.

majeh456

majeh456

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Join Date: Jan 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by asdar
Yeah, this is great!

Now every time we want to get into a mission group we'll have to be ridiculed and humiliated just like rank in HA.

Big thumbs up for the decision to make PvE just a little bit more unfriendly.
I hear ya loud and clear.....

majeh456

majeh456

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Join Date: Jan 2006

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidra
"GLF 4 more, must display good title" << i'm going to hate this.
sorry about double post, but new things are being added by the second...

Thats something else im gonna hate too

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by LordMahal
From my understanding there are some based on XP too. All in all, it doesnt matter what your rank or title is, its how you play the mission at hand that counts.
Absolutely. Just like the rank system in PvP has no bearing on how skilled you are at the game(yes, a rank 12 'noob' is possible), PvE titles will not necessarily equal PvE skill. Anyone can explore the whole map by running and still have no clue how to start and hold aggro. A person can capture every elite skill in the game and still have no clue what each skill's use is. So the point is that the groups that say things like: "GLF 4 more, must display good title" are fools and thus you shouldn't feel obligated to want to party with them. Look around in your alliance for people to party with.

majeh456

majeh456

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good point

Badger2

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Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmj102
I pray to god this doesnt bring in elite-ism into pve.
I don't know about praying to god about it but, I agree.

People are going to be kicked from missions because they don't have this or that title. Personnaly I could care less what your title is so long as you don't bail out of the mission the first time something goes wrong.

Now that I think about it, that could earn you a title also "Master Quiter".

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman

You suck!
well since you are insignificant and a nobody your opinion means nothing to me
good day

Badger2

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by d3kst3r
Whats wrong with elitism? I used to give the unranked a chance by allowing them into my groups. I'd meticulously plan out a strategy for the team etc. with careful timings and pre-arranged actions etc. and it's always the unranked noobies who screw it all up. For instance one time this guy told me he was a Rank 2 and I was like: meh ok so long as you know what to do. We ended up fighting the altar map with the rez orb. The idiot runs up, picks up the rez orb then drops it on the ground (despite him being a warrior). This occurence isn't isolated, the number of low ranked players demonstrating this kind of idiocy has forced me to impose rank limitations (I'm rank 11 but I accept as low as Rank 3 people now but nothing less).
I suppose that you started out at 11.

This is a perfect example why showing rank is a bad idea and, people like this are why I have no desire to play PvP.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayne Nightfyre
Absolutely. Just like the rank system in PvP has no bearing on how skilled you are at the game(yes, a rank 12 'noob' is possible), PvE titles will not necessarily equal PvE skill. Anyone can explore the whole map by running and still have no clue how to start and hold aggro. A person can capture every elite skill in the game and still have no clue what each skill's use is. So the point is that the groups that say things like: "GLF 4 more, must display good title" are fools and thus you shouldn't feel obligated to want to party with them. Look around in your alliance for people to party with.
sorry but..nonsense!

a PvP Rank emote indicates how many matches you have won ONLY in HA!...not GvG, nor Team Arenas nor Random Arenas!!

The PvE Titles (that we have seen so far) have no bairing on how many PvE 'QUESTS' you have won!

so of course there wont be people asking for a 'good title' because they have no bairing, what so ever, on your ability to team!

And again, What on EARTH PvE missions are there that are going to demand elitism??... they are all easily completable with Henchies.

I think your all bitching and moaning for no reason personally.

Snowman

Snowman

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

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Quote:
Originally Posted by led-zep
well since you are insignificant and a nobody your opinion means nothing to me
good day
lol, if thats your idea of a flame.. you suck even more!

but since im so insignificant then im probably not even worth responding too... oh right you already did

misthero

misthero

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Join Date: Jul 2005

I Falchi Bianchi [Puck]

E/Mo

anyone knows why atm i can see only my FAME (TERRIFYN HERO) title?? we will get the other titles just for our faction characters??

beanerman_99

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

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I can't wait to get the explorer title. I like exploring and clearing out entire maps, even in missions. I think it will be the first title I go for.

Nilles

Nilles

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Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Nerthus Konklave

A title for GvG success was long overdue. My guild is GvG focused so I'm not even at R3. Now dare to call me a newb. :P

misthero

misthero

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

I Falchi Bianchi [Puck]

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayne Nightfyre
Absolutely. Just like the rank system in PvP has no bearing on how skilled you are at the game(yes, a rank 12 'noob' is possible), PvE titles will not necessarily equal PvE skill. Anyone can explore the whole map by running and still have no clue how to start and hold aggro. A person can capture every elite skill in the game and still have no clue what each skill's use is. So the point is that the groups that say things like: "GLF 4 more, must display good title" are fools and thus you shouldn't feel obligated to want to party with them. Look around in your alliance for people to party with.

there is only 1 possible rank 12 newbie, the one who purchased in e-bay the rank 12 account.
If not you can't be "newbie", I can be a rank 12 "unskilled" but not "newbie", becouse you need lot of time to get that.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Once again, this is something Fans suggested. If you don't like it, then ignore the titles and don't worry about it.

That simple.

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by d3kst3r
Wow nice. I wonder if there's a title for total acquired Faction points, that would be great!
Yes, I'd much rather have this than Rank.
Hopefully it'll at least be along for the ride in some form...

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
sorry but..nonsense!

a PvP Rank emote indicates how many matches you have won ONLY in HA!...not GvG, nor Team Arenas nor Random Arenas!!

The PvE Titles (that we have seen so far) have no bairing on how many PvE 'QUESTS' you have won!

so of course there wont be people asking for a 'good title' because they have no bairing, what so ever, on your ability to team!

And again, What on EARTH PvE missions are there that are going to demand elitism??... they are all easily completable with Henchies.

I think your all bitching and moaning for no reason personally.
Snowman, do not spin this into the direction of another redundant debate over Rank vs PvE. But seriously...since when, may I ask, does Rank = skill? 'Iway' alone killed that concept. I'm not saying that every high ranked person is unskilled, but rank alone does not ensure skill. It's a number that is obtained by your group winning. Skill is determined by proving and making use of your abilities.

And about the less-than-grammatically-correct bickering between you and Led-Zep...

Evidently he thought originally that this title system completely replaced rank emotes. It hasn't, people will still have their deer, dog, cat and bird emotes. Instead of flaming, you could have offered correction on what he had thought.

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hell Raiser
no they meant to say what they said, titles aren't supposed to be easily obtainable you have to actually WORK for them, 90 elites across an account is easy, 90 accounts on one character is part of the challenge, if it were across the account everyone would have it or at least be close
Ah that's silly. Really silly. So I did UAS and didn't get nuts capping say monk divine elites on my Ele. Duh. It should be across account just like anything based on faction (would be) and fame (is). So I've done as much PvE as you (possibly more) but I didn't get redundant or (sorry, but for lack of a better word) stupid in my elite choices. My Ele has elites from all the classes but some simply don't make sense (other class primaries, some of the options). So does my Necro and Warrior. So will my new characters...

About the only thing that makes sense is XP, and even then it really doesn't. There you have people who farmed the heck out of UW, SF, etc. So you either have solo people who may not be able to group or over-farmers who know their areas and possibly little else.

Guess I'll reserve judgement but so far if you didn't go HoH crazy or do it all with *one* character (rather than most of us spreading it out) looks like your tags may be limited even if you've done everything there is to do in the game.

/shrug
so far I like my BNET WC3:FT icons a lot more

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nilles
A title for GvG success was long overdue. My guild is GvG focused so I'm not even at R3. Now dare to call me a newb. :P
You seen one? So far that's part of my problem with it.
I also was in a heavy GvG/hardly any HoH guild.
I don't see a title speaking to that yet so you'll still have the same problem.
Unless I missed a title based on faction or GvG wins...

TRUEgamer

TRUEgamer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

New Hampshire, USA

none

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Are there even 135 elite skills for two combined professions?

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by CKaz
Ah that's silly. Really silly. So I did UAS and didn't get nuts capping say monk divine elites on my Ele. Duh. It should be across account just like anything based on faction (would be) and fame (is). So I've done as much PvE as you (possibly more) but I didn't get redundant or (sorry, but for lack of a better word) stupid in my elite choices. My Ele has elites from all the classes but some simply don't make sense (other class primaries, some of the options). So does my Necro and Warrior. So will my new characters...

About the only thing that makes sense is XP, and even then it really doesn't. There you have people who farmed the heck out of UW, SF, etc. So you either have solo people who may not be able to group or over-farmers who know their areas and possibly little else.

Guess I'll reserve judgement but so far if you didn't go HoH crazy or do it all with *one* character (rather than most of us spreading it out) looks like your tags may be limited even if you've done everything there is to do in the game.

/shrug
so far I like my BNET WC3:FT icons a lot more
I agree, the things PvE titles will be based on(except map exploration) don't seem to make sense. It will basically encourage capturing skills for no other reason than simply to get that title. If it's based on XP, it will encourage solo farming with scrolls(UW/FoW quests also).

I'm working toward the UAS status on my Mesmer, but I'm not sure I want to blow all that gold on Capture Signets, especially ones that I'll never use (like I'm really going to use a 5 second Spell Breaker). But on the other hand it'll give us near-bored PvE'ers something to do, namely, filling up several progress bars.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TRUEgamer
Are there even 135 elite skills for two combined professions?
No, it would require switching to each secondary profession and capturing each class's elites. Which would take much time, gold and skill points. So likely in Factions they will somehow make skill points easier to obtain so that we don't have to grind for them as bad as we do now.