A Note To Farmers

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

My fellow farmers, now that factions is upon us I know many of you will soon be seeking out those elusive hot spots for loot throughout the game. and many of us will be testing builds and methods to get the goodies from these spots. The thrill of the build and the find are what matters to us and by god this new chapter offers untold riches for us to get our hands on. Let us learn from the mistakes of the past as we venture into this new chapter in Guild Wars.


I'd like to really address one mistake that sort of catches all the mistakes up in one group. Let's try to keep our mouths shut this time. If you find the next awesome, solo super assassin or ritualist build keep it to yourself. If you find a spot where rare items and runes fall form the heavens like rain do not post it on this forum or any other forum for that matter. We've seen broad nerfs across the board because people just have to share. Knock it off already. A sense of community is one thing but cutting our own throats is another entirely.

Remember the goal of the game is to have fun but there is no reason you can't make some loot while you do it. Just remember if you want to keep making the loot then the last thing you need to do is tell about your new farming spot or your new awesome solo build. I hope this has instilled you all with the appropriate amount of caution.

zidane888

zidane888

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Seattle WA

[Oops]

W/R

No offense: a thoroughly unecessary post IMO. Anet doesn't need to check Guru to find out what the latest hotspot is. Trust me. Furthermore, there have been dozens, upon dozens of identical posts like yours. + perf drops have been buffed accross the board...list goes on...

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Indeed. Truer words were never uttered. My lips are sealed forever and I will never divulge the location or build to anyone. A secret shared is no longer a secret.

/signed

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

I don't like prissy people who won't share, when in return you better not ask ask us for our builds.

Lampshade

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

I'm going to say whatever the hell I want. If I want to tell someone about a spot I found, so be it.

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

I'm going to post them as I find them.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

ill keep quiet. I have a few prophecies places which noone knows about. got myself a nice place to get lots of gold summit items. got another where i get runes and lots of gold weps. will i say? sure as hell i wont

i just think it is dumb to tell people when you can farm the shit out of it make a ton of gold. after that i would say

Hippocheesebarn

Hippocheesebarn

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/

I see no reason why things can't be made public for the greater good, besides, the nerfing of one area simply forces players to explore into another. If I've found something that I think can help other people, I see no reason to not share and help people.
/not-signed.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

I think the people who made the game know about it.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
I don't like prissy people who won't share, when in return you better not ask ask us for our builds.
I neither want, nor need other people's builds. My builds are my builds you keep your "overly used", yeah that's a nice way of saying it, builds away from mine. I don't want my builds getting any diseases.( and this is meant as a joke lest anyone take me seriously)

Quote:
Originally Posted by zidane888
No offense: a thoroughly unecessary post IMO. Anet doesn't need to check Guru to find out what the latest hotspot is. Trust me. Furthermore, there have been dozens, upon dozens of identical posts like yours. + perf drops have been buffed accross the board...list goes on...
And yes Anet can track high traffic areas. The thing is a good farming spot does not become a high traffic area until someone shoots their mouth off and everyone and their mom starts hitting it.

ThePadawan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Augury Rock

Xen of the Pacific [XoO]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
My fellow farmers, now that factions is upon us I know many of you will soon be seeking out those elusive hot spots for loot throughout the game. and many of us will be testing builds and methods to get the goodies from these spots. The thrill of the build and the find are what matters to us and by god this new chapter offers untold riches for us to get our hands on. Let us learn from the mistakes of the past as we venture into this new chapter in Guild Wars.


I'd like to really address one mistake that sort of catches all the mistakes up in one group. Let's try to keep our mouths shut this time. If you find the next awesome, solo super assassin or ritualist build keep it to yourself. If you find a spot where rare items and runes fall form the heavens like rain do not post it on this forum or any other forum for that matter. We've seen broad nerfs across the board because people just have to share. Knock it off already. A sense of community is one thing but cutting our own throats is another entirely.

Remember the goal of the game is to have fun but there is no reason you can't make some loot while you do it. Just remember if you want to keep making the loot then the last thing you need to do is tell about your new farming spot or your new awesome solo build. I hope this has instilled you all with the appropriate amount of caution.
QFT. No one but my guild.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
I don't like prissy people who won't share, when in return you better not ask ask us for our builds.
Always better to figure out your own builds. Don't ask, don't tell.

....... please be sure to remove tongue from cheek after posting

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

the funny part is that most of the game's "farmers" are people who blindly follow the builds and strategies posted on these forums...

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
the funny part is that most of the game's "farmers" are people who blindly follow the builds and strategies posted on these forums...
Exactly.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
the funny part is that most of the game's "farmers" are people who blindly follow the builds and strategies posted on these forums...
agreed but there are those of us, like monty and myself and I'm sure many others, that find new spots, figure out the best build for that spot and then shut the hell up about it. There will always be people who hit the forums and take their cues from there but there are always originators.

DeathDealer

DeathDealer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dark Side of the Moon....and I'm goin' back real soon

Guildless

R/Mo

I usually dont say anything anyways...but thousands upon thousands of people will find every "hot spot" within a few weeks..and they'll tell a friend..and that friend tells a friend...and it goes on and on. There is no such thing as a "secret farming spot"...they dont exist..its a fairly small map, there is thousands and thousands of farmers, and the game has become a farming and selling market.

As I said, I rarely (if ever) tell people about where I farm..why?...because they probably already know about it already. I know that all of the "elusive super secret areas" that nobody knows about except for you is most definitely not "elusive" and "super secret".

Have fun in the little "fantasy world" of hidden and "untouched lands" while it lasts..I give it a few weeks to a month before it fails to become the above mentioned type of area.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
the funny part is that most of the game's "farmers" are people who blindly follow the builds and strategies posted on these forums...
QTF. But someone has to come up with the builds and strategies that others follow. There are those that lead, and those that follow (and those that just get in the way).

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathDealer
I usually dont say anything anyways...but thousands upon thousands of people will find every "hot spot" within a few weeks..and they'll tell a friend..and that friend tells a friend...and it goes on and on. There is no such thing as a "secret farming spot"...they dont exist..its a fairly small map, there is thousands and thousands of farmers, and the game has become a farming and selling market.

As I said, I rarely (if ever) tell people about where I farm..why?...because they probably already know about it already. I know that all of the "elusive super secret areas" that nobody knows about except for you is most definitely not "elusive" and "super secret".

Have fun in the little "fantasy world" of hidden and "untouched lands" while it lasts..I give it a few weeks to a month before it fails to become the above mentioned type of area.
I'd straight up give you 500K if you find my new rune farming spot that I can solo with a trap ranger. It's still in Tyria. Yes there are secret spots that no one knows about because pretty much everyone stops looking once the well known spots are nerfed. You give people too much credit. 90% of the population in this game doesn't have the gumption to go out and find anything on their own.

DeathDealer

DeathDealer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dark Side of the Moon....and I'm goin' back real soon

Guildless

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
I'd straight up give you 500K if you find my new rune farming spot that I can solo with a trap ranger. It's still in Tyria. Yes there are secret spots that no one knows about because pretty much everyone stops looking once the well known spots are nerfed. You give people too much credit. 90% of the population in this game doesn't have the gumption to go out and find anything on their own.
So you honestly think that less than 10% of the entire GW population is clueless as to the whereabouts of your uber rune farming location? I agree to an extent on the second half of your paragraph. There are a lot people that play follow the leader with builds and spots.

I would like to add that I farm plenty and am not saying that I talk about my areas or will in the future..just putting some common knowledge type facts out there to try to bring this self proclaimed elite farming area mentality back down to reality. No offense meant by this at.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

Ultimately if you have 1g or 1million gp in GW it doesn't add up to one iota of real world worth (unless you're an ebayer in which case you're being very naughty!) - so hording to yourself is being selfish for no real reason. It's just virtual.

Share'n'Enjoy, now that's real You get to have some fun and you help others have fun and enjoy it too. If it gets nerfed, so what? Always something else to look for/do

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

I never claimed to be an elite farmer. I just have a knack for recognizing patterns, which is all that you really need to locate a good farming spot, and yes I do believe that 10% of the guild wars population is responsible for 100% of the farming discoveries. The other 90% just read forums and go run. If anything I'm just a person who has a sort of Rainman-esque talent for pattern recognition and I have applied it in this game to do well. There is nothing elite about that. In fact it's downright freakish to most people.

Who cares about real world worth. I don't want to sell my stuff on Ebay that's just wrong and it panders to a group of people that I despise.( Die Ebayers Die!) No what I want is to have fun in this game and to me having fun means having the disposable game income to tinker endlessly with equipment, builds, and all sorts of other things. That kind of scratch can only be achieved through farming. If I thought that farming made me a "better" person in real life then I would lead a sad little existence. All I really want is a little time to bolster my accounts back up before people start sharing again. It costs to experiment with new professions and even though I'm fairly well set I'm likely to deplete my resources significantly as I set to tweaking my planned assassin and ritualist builds.

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

Farming in Guildwars,Serious Business.

Sergent Life Helper

Sergent Life Helper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rites of Passage [RP]

E/Mo

Well, I think that people can and will share their ideas no matter what. Eventually, everyone will know where to farm, with what build, and what you get there. There's just no stopping it. And then all Anet will do is set up a anti-farming code, then the tons of players just look for the next "uber farming spot" and horde that. It will continue and continue....

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
My fellow farmers, now that factions is upon us I know many of you will soon be seeking out those elusive hot spots for loot throughout the game. and many of us will be testing builds and methods to get the goodies from these spots. The thrill of the build and the find are what matters to us and by god this new chapter offers untold riches for us to get our hands on. Let us learn from the mistakes of the past as we venture into this new chapter in Guild Wars.


I'd like to really address one mistake that sort of catches all the mistakes up in one group. Let's try to keep our mouths shut this time. If you find the next awesome, solo super assassin or ritualist build keep it to yourself. If you find a spot where rare items and runes fall form the heavens like rain do not post it on this forum or any other forum for that matter. We've seen broad nerfs across the board because people just have to share. Knock it off already. A sense of community is one thing but cutting our own throats is another entirely.

Remember the goal of the game is to have fun but there is no reason you can't make some loot while you do it. Just remember if you want to keep making the loot then the last thing you need to do is tell about your new farming spot or your new awesome solo build. I hope this has instilled you all with the appropriate amount of caution.

so then what uber farming spots have you found all by yourself?

Oh, none?

gg.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cottage Pie
so then what uber farming spots have you found all by yourself?

Oh, none?

gg.
None that I will share because then you and every other person who reads these forums will swarm on them like flies on a carcass until they get nerfed and then I'll have to go find more spots. I have found one for runes to replace my lost ettin income. It's in Tyria and so far a trapper is the best build to use in it. That's all I'll say. I've found another for rare weapons, not many rare skins though but you can salvage good mods. It's a guarantee of at least 6 rare weapons drops per run and each run averages to about 15 minutes. I use my bizarre W/E build for that one and it is also in Tyria. I'm just wondering though how many years did it take you to achieve the flexibility required to so thoroughly stick your foot in your mouth?

Just because I choose not to share my spots doesn't mean I don't find them. Agreed it makes it hard to prove it but then again I don't have to prove anything. I've got my loot and I've got my good gear and that's all I care about. I certainly don't care about appeasing your attempts at baiting me. Now shoo you're getting the stink of poor all over me.

EDIT: Because I feel bad for some of you people let me toss you a bone. Any enemy that drops armor has the chance to drop a rune. The higher level enemies have a significantly higher pay off. Take those two factors into account and all you have to do to get runes is find a higher level area with a good concentration of armor dropping enemies then figure out how to kill them quickly and there you go you just found a rune farming area.

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

Anet doesnt even need large amounts of traffic to monitor farming areas, if they notice your player weath has been increasing at too fast a rate, they can see you visit area X with build Y on a frequent basis.

i think your forgetting this is Anet, they know everything you do and say, they know what your inventry holds, they know how often youve typed /dance, they know Everything

If its in guildwars its =! Secret

Deacon Roswell

Deacon Roswell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

San Diego

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

you guys are killing me! This is the funniest thread i've read yet.
"i'm the only one out of 2 million plus people that knows where this uber elite farming spot is!!!"
you really are rainman -esque if you believe that.

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
None that I will share because then you and every other person who reads these forums will swarm on them like flies on a carcass until they get nerfed and then I'll have to go find more spots. I have found one for runes to replace my lost ettin income. It's in Tyria and so far a trapper is the best build to use in it. That's all I'll say. I've found another for rare weapons, not many rare skins though but you can salvage good mods. It's a guarantee of at least 6 rare weapons drops per run and each run averages to about 15 minutes. I use my bizarre W/E build for that one and it is also in Tyria. I'm just wondering though how many years did it take you to achieve the flexibility required to so thoroughly stick your foot in your mouth?

Just because I choose not to share my spots doesn't mean I don't find them. Agreed it makes it hard to prove it but then again I don't have to prove anything. I've got my loot and I've got my good gear and that's all I care about. I certainly don't care about appeasing your attempts at baiting me. Now shoo you're getting the stink of poor all over me.

EDIT: Because I feel bad for some of you people let me toss you a bone. Any enemy that drops armor has the chance to drop a rune. The higher level enemies have a significantly higher pay off. Take those two factors into account and all you have to do to get runes is find a higher level area with a good concentration of armor dropping enemies then figure out how to kill them quickly and there you go you just found a rune farming area.
I don't even consider farming a viable source of income if you ever want any serious amount of money with minimal time invested. So, tell me, how many 100's of ectos do you have from this farming method? (I assume your bank is already packed with 1k plat)

The New Guy

The New Guy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Southern CALI

Eraserheads

N/Me

Well I don't have anything againts what the OP is trying to explain, but I guess it would be nice to share once in a while. For someone like me who works 10 hrs a day + 2-3 hrs of school, it's very difficult to sit in front of my computer, squeeze my brain some more for a solo build that could work and use to farm so I can get rich and afford all the fancy things in GW. I have to admit that I relied on other people's build to earn some cash here and there, 'cause like I said, after 12-13hrs of work and school there's just no time for me to think of my own farming build. Hey, I dont wanna die of Aneurysm if you ask me!

My point? I have no f---ing idea!

Quozz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Prodigy Exiles (PE)

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon Roswell
you guys are killing me! This is the funniest thread i've read yet.
"i'm the only one out of 2 million plus people that knows where this uber elite farming spot is!!!"
you really are rainman -esque if you believe that.
You should do a search and read all his other posts. He has been amusing me with his posts for quite some time

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

I made a goal to not spend any money and farm for 1 hour every day over the past 2 weeks before the factions release.

I started with 10k.

I finished with 300k.

I know you can make money faster if you buy and trade items, but the market isn't stable at the moment because of the factions release. I'll go back to buying and trading when the smoke clears.

Dave83

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

SeS

Me/Mo

Hhmmm I'm sort of halfway on this one. If I find a good spot I would probably farm the hell out of it for a while, then share.

But are'nt Anet like big brother? They can monitor if people are farming the same spot all of the time cant they?

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

/agreed

never going to happen heres why

lets say i find uber farming build, i tell one friend he tells one friend and so on

rancidgoat

rancidgoat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

[XoO] [AX]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
I'd straight up give you 500K if you find my new rune farming spot that I can solo with a trap ranger. It's still in Tyria. Yes there are secret spots that no one knows about because pretty much everyone stops looking once the well known spots are nerfed. You give people too much credit. 90% of the population in this game doesn't have the gumption to go out and find anything on their own.
to think that you are the only one who knows about a spot in the game is just moronic.

if i find a spot i will post it right here in this forum.

Blitzy

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Destiny Forsaken

Mo/W

Rainman-esque? Hilarious.

Share on brothers, share on!

*sheep mode on*
Baaaah! Mehhh! Baaah!

Quozz

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Prodigy Exiles (PE)

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheAmaizingDave
Hhmmm I'm sort of halfway on this one. If I find a good spot I would probably farm the hell out of it for a while, then share.

But are'nt Anet like big brother? They can monitor if people are farming the same spot all of the time cant they?
Doesn't matter what Anet monitors, because the game currently allows for hundreds of possible farming spots. The original OP is correct in pointing out that farming is all about recognizing patterns and then using that to your advantage. Enemy spawns and skill sets lack any element of randomness so consequently its extremely easy to find farming areas. You just have to think a little about a build that will take advantage of the enemies that you will be fighting.

In the long run Anet will have to decide if they want the game to develop an economy or not. If Anet doesn't care then farming will continue to be allowed.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

actually anet does check guru for farming hotspots.. I thought they'd quit awhile back until posted a solo farming guide on the queen- the next day it was nerfed and gayle was posting around asking if anyone could still solo the thing.. same with sorrows- you can still solo sorrows but the drop rate was cut (kinda like what they did to uw)

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

I've yet to convert to ectos yet. I'm packing too many common and rare crafting materials in storage right no in anticipation of a small jump in price with factions armor. Honestly I don't see the point in having over 1000K. It's hard to spend that much without constantly replenishing it through just regular gameplay, farming totally aside. New characters will eat up at least 500K if not 750K.

dudehere120

dudehere120

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

this just in.....you can solo the UW for ectos!! i'm not gonna tell you what character can do it with or the build, its a secret......ssshhhhhh!!

zulu123

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Although I personally would never stoop so low as to NOT share my builds/spots (if I have any)... I guess the op has the right to protect his farming spots. Especially if Anet tracks down these spots and nerfs them.

What I get pissed off is the company itself... Anet. First there is the hard limitation of being able to use only 8 skills. Then they force us to constantly change and adapt to the changing scenarios and different mobs. These changes need different builds, armor sets, weapons, etc, etc. This is not a game where one build, one armor set and one weapon works anywhere and everywhere like other games *cough* World of Warcraft *cough*

Has any developer fcking seen how much any decent weapon costs? Where does one get the gold required for all these? Why dont they try to do something productive like controlling the inflation OR trying to implement an auctioning system in the game? Instead all they keep doing is nerf different builds that allows you to earn some much needed gold OR nerf some good farming spot.