LOCKED GATES - Anyone else sick of this? :/
shmek
Spend plenty of time winding your way around to that little portal you see on the map and then once you make it there you cannot enter. Fraggin maddenning new aspect of game, and not the kind of "challenge" that seems to make for better play.
-Loki-
Nope. It kills running, which means people have to beat missions, which weeds out the people over time that just aren't good. They eventualy learn and get better, and get further, or they don't and don't progress.
twicky_kid
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Nope. It kills running, which means people have to beat missions, which weeds out the people over time that just aren't good. They eventualy learn and get better, and get further, or they don't and don't progress.
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Thanx Anet for the more uneeded grind. I only want to do the content once.
=HT=Ingram
Well yes and no. Once you get to Cantha the first time you discover there is a path of least resistance to follow with minimal missions to get to the Lux Kur area of the game.
I have not fully figured it out, but at this point it looks like 1 mission, 2 Very long runs, 1 quest, and one more mission (first Shiro battle) to get to the quest that gives you the Lux or Kur quest choice...
Its a matter of knowing where to go. AND if you do not have any quests active except the first primary quest its a little easier..after all activating all those quests makes the city all the more dangerous right???
there is a run formula however. I'm sure of it. looks like a run between 3 towns and through undercity and up into Maatu Keep. From there its all FPE map... But you will still have to go back and do Sunjiang District to get access to Lux Kur areas through House or Cavalon. After that I think its the same as in FPE.. but not sure yet.. We will see...
I'm sure very soon you will be seeing people running from Marketplace to Maatu. this will be the equivilient of a Droks run in a way... After that is all about getting to 15k armor in Vasburg Armory and Laviathan Pits. but you will still need to have 10,000 Kur or Lux faction points I think to get through Grove and Hatchery to get to those places... Just like in the FPE. So that will be a requirment for a run to those places.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not supporting runners... You guys know that I'm not that way. I'm just stating a fact that this is what we will see based on past experiance in the game, and what I have discovered thus far. What you all do and enjoy is up to you. I play one way, many others play another... and I can accept that, as long as it falls into line with the Established Rules of Conduct that ArenaNet puts forth... So if you do it. great. but the formula to follow is not a easy one thus far...
I have not fully figured it out, but at this point it looks like 1 mission, 2 Very long runs, 1 quest, and one more mission (first Shiro battle) to get to the quest that gives you the Lux or Kur quest choice...
Its a matter of knowing where to go. AND if you do not have any quests active except the first primary quest its a little easier..after all activating all those quests makes the city all the more dangerous right???
there is a run formula however. I'm sure of it. looks like a run between 3 towns and through undercity and up into Maatu Keep. From there its all FPE map... But you will still have to go back and do Sunjiang District to get access to Lux Kur areas through House or Cavalon. After that I think its the same as in FPE.. but not sure yet.. We will see...
I'm sure very soon you will be seeing people running from Marketplace to Maatu. this will be the equivilient of a Droks run in a way... After that is all about getting to 15k armor in Vasburg Armory and Laviathan Pits. but you will still need to have 10,000 Kur or Lux faction points I think to get through Grove and Hatchery to get to those places... Just like in the FPE. So that will be a requirment for a run to those places.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not supporting runners... You guys know that I'm not that way. I'm just stating a fact that this is what we will see based on past experiance in the game, and what I have discovered thus far. What you all do and enjoy is up to you. I play one way, many others play another... and I can accept that, as long as it falls into line with the Established Rules of Conduct that ArenaNet puts forth... So if you do it. great. but the formula to follow is not a easy one thus far...
primal98
Grind... what grind... o.O It makes sense that if you make a new character, you do the whole game again... at least thats the way Ive been doing it o.O
~prime
~prime
shmek
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Originally Posted by -Loki-
Nope. It kills running, which means people have to beat missions, which weeds out the people over time that just aren't good. They eventualy learn and get better, and get further, or they don't and don't progress.
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Guess you don't enjoy running someone or yourself somewhere. I have from time to time and it was fun enough.
Anyhow, I was not running I was flipping fighting with the henchies to get to several locations only to finally arrive at a locked gate.
Joy... at least you can rejoice that someone else enjoyment of game is being destroyed in order for your game play style preference to feel better.
Maria The Princess
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Originally Posted by shmek
LOL.... SOOOOOO wrong. Now runs just went through the roof if that's the case
Guess you don't enjoy running someone or yourself somewhere. I have from time to time and it was fun enough. Anyhow, I was not running I was flipping fighting with the henchies to get to several locations only to finally arrive at a locked gate. Joy... at least you can rejoice that someone else enjoyment of game is being destroyed in order for your game play style preference to feel better. |
LoKi Foxfire
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LOL.... SOOOOOO wrong. Now runs just went through the roof if that's the case
Guess you don't enjoy running someone or yourself somewhere. I have from time to time and it was fun enough. Anyhow, I was not running I was flipping fighting with the henchies to get to several locations only to finally arrive at a locked gate. Joy... at least you can rejoice that someone else enjoyment of game is being destroyed in order for your game play style preference to feel better. |
Loch
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Uzul
i was a bit sceptic about the new concept at first - got a bit lost in the maze that is called canthan-favelas... Oo
but after thinking about it for a few nights i have to say i love it. gets rid of the unskilled junk-venturers.
oh - the missions are actually a bit challenging and i'd love to them again with other classes (not to mention 3 skillpoints, lots of xp and a plat in gold).
but after thinking about it for a few nights i have to say i love it. gets rid of the unskilled junk-venturers.
oh - the missions are actually a bit challenging and i'd love to them again with other classes (not to mention 3 skillpoints, lots of xp and a plat in gold).
DeathDealer
I love it...it cuts down on people getting towards the end of the game without knowledge..ie..person buys the game..realizes he needs gold fast..goes to "ebay"..buys gold..gets ran all over. no more super inexperienced people to screw up the missions! YAY!
-Loki-
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Originally Posted by Loch
I agree, playing with a PuG that's actually played the game is overrated.
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Imaginos
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Nope. It kills running, which means people have to beat missions, which weeds out the people over time that just aren't good. They eventualy learn and get better, and get further, or they don't and don't progress.
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Weezer_Blue
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Or reallistically they just get pissed and stop buying Anet products.
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Tobias Funke
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Or reallistically they just get pissed and stop buying Anet products.
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frojack
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Good for the rest of us.
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Well said.
Arkantos
Your sick of it cuz you dont wanna play the game, you wanna rush through it. One of my favourite things in factions - you actually gotta do the quests/missions. Get used to it, or go back to tyria.
Dollztempta
I cant even think about how did you get thru the Tutorial of Factions. 
There was like 10 different gates you had to wait, makes me laugh, really BADLY.
There was like 10 different gates you had to wait, makes me laugh, really BADLY.
Wildi
hundreds of monsters are protecting the way to a LOCKED GATE which you cannot enter, thats stupid
plz wake up arenanet
plz wake up arenanet
Sol Faithman
I thought the locked gates on the starter island were pointless. I took my lvl 20 ranger there for a bit of relaxing wandering about, taking screen shots etc - I get to the north west part of the island (some Garden place) and I can't get through. I go back a bit and come to some guard by a gate who tells me I need to go do more training!! WTF!!!
I can fully understand A/nets stance on running as it is getting totally OTT - perfect example was within 30 mins of factions going live on Thursday there were people both offering and requesting runs to "the next town". What is the point of playing the game for christ sake if you're just going to get run everywhere. The RP in RPG stands for Role Playing not Run People
But back to the point of op - I think that there should be some indication that a warp point is "locked" as I did spend 2 or 3 hours fighting my way to some points only to find they were locked because I'd not done a quest/mission. Maybe is A/net could show the warp point with an red X through it or something - you'll know it's there but can't get through yet?
My 2p's worth anyway
Rich
I can fully understand A/nets stance on running as it is getting totally OTT - perfect example was within 30 mins of factions going live on Thursday there were people both offering and requesting runs to "the next town". What is the point of playing the game for christ sake if you're just going to get run everywhere. The RP in RPG stands for Role Playing not Run People
But back to the point of op - I think that there should be some indication that a warp point is "locked" as I did spend 2 or 3 hours fighting my way to some points only to find they were locked because I'd not done a quest/mission. Maybe is A/net could show the warp point with an red X through it or something - you'll know it's there but can't get through yet?
My 2p's worth anyway
Rich
tONYY
I hate runners, the destroy the game. Many new players I find dont even know that you can get to droknars without being runned. That's not how it's supposed to be.
I love this new layout.
I love this new layout.
zakaria
Anet will not tolerate with terrorists...err i mean runners
VGJustice
Honestly, the only locked gates I've come across that I've actually cared about were the ones on the starter island with my Tyrian Ranger. There's no way I'm getting through those gates, thus, no way to totally complete the map. That bugs me.
But, when I got to a locked gate on the mainland, I looked at it, said "oh", turned around and started doing quests again. I hadn't even thought about it until I saw this thread. I'm going about my merry way getting buko XP from random quests. That's what I was after the whole time (skill farmer).
But, when I got to a locked gate on the mainland, I looked at it, said "oh", turned around and started doing quests again. I hadn't even thought about it until I saw this thread. I'm going about my merry way getting buko XP from random quests. That's what I was after the whole time (skill farmer).
broodijzer
I don't really like it. with my 1st char on prophecies, I just ran around not doing missions, but just discovering new outposts.
now I did that too, but all I got was locked gates.
Now I have the feeling you HAVE to do the quests to advance in the game, and random exploring isn't rewarded.
now I did that too, but all I got was locked gates.
Now I have the feeling you HAVE to do the quests to advance in the game, and random exploring isn't rewarded.
Francis Crawford
I don't think getting to a locked gate is a waste. I find it a lot easier to play after I have an area on my map and some experience with what kind of enemies are there.
I.e., getting to the gate a second time is a lot easier than getting there once.
I.e., getting to the gate a second time is a lot easier than getting there once.
kats12
err how do i get to the 1st mission in Kaineng?
MMSDome
I like this feature so now i cant get ran all across the map then buy expensive armor and find myself with about 10 skills and eventually delete that character wasting my money. This feature makes me play the game 
Overnite
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Thanx Anet for the more uneeded grind. I only want to do the content once.
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shmek
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Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue
Good for the rest of us.
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It's called "gameplay" not "grind"
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EDIT: Please do not double post. - Swampgirl
Kakumei
I never ran into a gate that I could not pass through.
Why? Because I FOLLOWED THE GODDAMN PRIMARY QUESTS.
Why? Because I FOLLOWED THE GODDAMN PRIMARY QUESTS.
Loviatar
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I never ran into a gate that I could not pass through.
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OMG are you really saying what i think you are saying?that you did the quest that took you past the gate as part of the quest?.............what an amazing concept
CK0
Currently doing the primary mission, 'Finding the Oracle'. I'm supposed to proceed through 'Shadow Passage', and get there and the gate is opened, but I cannot proceed through. And this is when I'm doing the PRIMARY MISSION.
Katari
The locked gates are a way to put more content in a smaller place on the map while still forcing the game to be linear. Sure, you have to do the first mission to get to the guardens. And you had to finish THK to get to Ember Light Camp. I don't see where the issue is.
If you're mad that you can't get run everywhere, then oh well. That was Tyria, and this is not. I'm certainly not going to shed any tears because people can't get through the game without even playing it. Especialy now that players have a better slot/class ration, and an upcomming option to buy slots.
If you're mad that you can't get run everywhere, then oh well. That was Tyria, and this is not. I'm certainly not going to shed any tears because people can't get through the game without even playing it. Especialy now that players have a better slot/class ration, and an upcomming option to buy slots.
Kura Touzoku
The locked gates are a very good idea, in my view. When it comes to the 12 vs. 12 battles, do you want 10 incompetants running around like headless chickens, dying horribly, and getting the enemy point count up? Although i think i have seen a way to get run to the last outpost in kaineng city, which i won't say, since it's useless anyway, because you have to get the right quests to get to kurzick, and then to luxon.
If you really want to know, i try exploring all of kaineng city, and i'm not 100% sure it is an option.
If you really want to know, i try exploring all of kaineng city, and i'm not 100% sure it is an option.
pigdestroyer
LOL at you guys complaining you cant run the game...
Woutsie
I actually like this.
Elruid
I just realised this as well, can't enter some areas.
Well, it won't be as bad I hope once someone has mapped the whole of Cantha so people can peruse it online.
Will make pathing much easier and faster.
Of course, it might also mean ALL my characters have to strictly follow the storyline.
I think I actually appreciate the fact that in Tyria the map was much more free-roamable.
Well, it won't be as bad I hope once someone has mapped the whole of Cantha so people can peruse it online.
Will make pathing much easier and faster.
Of course, it might also mean ALL my characters have to strictly follow the storyline.
I think I actually appreciate the fact that in Tyria the map was much more free-roamable.
Fluffyx
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I thought the locked gates on the starter island were pointless. I took my lvl 20 ranger there for a bit of relaxing wandering about, taking screen shots etc - I get to the north west part of the island (some Garden place) and I can't get through. I go back a bit and come to some guard by a gate who tells me I need to go do more training!! WTF!!!
I can fully understand A/nets stance on running as it is getting totally OTT - perfect example was within 30 mins of factions going live on Thursday there were people both offering and requesting runs to "the next town". What is the point of playing the game for christ sake if you're just going to get run everywhere. The RP in RPG stands for Role Playing not Run People But back to the point of op - I think that there should be some indication that a warp point is "locked" as I did spend 2 or 3 hours fighting my way to some points only to find they were locked because I'd not done a quest/mission. Maybe is A/net could show the warp point with an red X through it or something - you'll know it's there but can't get through yet? My 2p's worth anyway Rich |
Running is just another part of the game get used to it or go play another game. I have beaten all the missions in Tyria more times than I can count on my fingers, I sure as hell know I'm not waiting to get my 15k armors for my new characters. And why should I, haven't I experienced the game enough to skip some parts? I mean jeeze go find something more constructive to bash then poor runners. ;[
twicky_kid
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Originally Posted by Overnite
It's called "gameplay" not "grind"
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TRUEgamer
I'm officially sick of this.