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Woutsie

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

Ok, I think this is some kind of bug. I cannot play the mission Gates of Kryta with my Factions character (Ritualist). The strange thing is, I can play all of the other Kryta missions...
This is what I get:

J Marion

J Marion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rising From The Ashes

R/Me

Perhaps because Faction characters have access to Prophecies starting at Lion's Arch, and the Kryta mission is the mission right before Lion's Arch.

Kamatsu

Kamatsu

Moderator

Join Date: May 2005

Australia

all the other Kryta missions are POST-LA.. while Gates of Kryta is PRE-LA. also, the main purpiose for Gates of Kryta is to gain access to LA for the Ascalon refugee's..

And since for Faction character's you START in LA and can't do any of the Ascalon & N.Shiverpeaks quest's (because of the point of the storyline you enter in).. and since your not comming to LA from the Ascalon way and leading refugee's to LA.. and becausre you don't need to open access to LA.. you can't do it.

It's just a fact of life.. Faction characters can't do quest's from Gates of Kryta and earlier.

Woutsie

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

Wow that sux... I really hoped I could do all the quests/missions... So our Factions characters will never be able to complete the Tyria Mission Title?

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

D.E.V.i.A.N.C.E

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

very good question, does it show your title progress as /25

that also effects your tyria map coverage...

LordMahal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

R/Mo

I dont care what the excuse, if you own both games, you should be able to run all your characters through all missions regardless. I paid the money, I want results.

Woutsie

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

Quote:
Originally Posted by LordMahal
I dont care what the excuse, if you own both games, you should be able to run all your characters through all missions regardless. I paid the money, I want results.
Yes, I agree. I was so happy when I travelled to LA. Doing all Tyria missions/quests/... That would be another 500 hours of fun in Tyria, but now... Argh, dissapointed.

Also, did Anet ever mentioned this that you will not be able to do missions that come before LA?

pkodyssey

pkodyssey

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a cardboard box with Internet

The Order of the Frozen Tundra (TofT)

N/

You can quest for skills forward from LA but not back either.

I was not able to do the "The Ascalon Settlement" quest from Damaris outside LA or "The Last Hog" from Farmer Dirk near Ascalon settlement.

So far I was able to get the following SKILL quests:

Maliquire's Test
Archivist Ithimar
The Hot Spring Murders
The Undead Hordes

Will Canthan characters be able to ascend so we can get to droks?

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

I don't think Canthans can do the Sanctum Cay mission either. No ascension.

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

All I can say is that this is complete stupidity. I was really looking forward to playing through Tyria in its entirety with my Assassin (since honestly, Cantha disappoints me). This will indeed make it impossible to gain the title based on mission completion, and also the exploration title, since missions count as well.

Thanks A-Net. /sigh

Veneficus

Veneficus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
I don't think Canthans can do the Sanctum Cay mission either. No ascension.
They can.

I have done it, and other people have ascended too to get Rit FoW etc..

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Woutsie
Also, did Anet ever mentioned this that you will not be able to do missions that come before LA?
Not that I've ever heard. But I do remember the explanation from A-net about getting 2 additional slots when you merge the campaigns being better than having them as seperate accounts going like this:

6 characters X 100% content > 8 characters with 50% of the content.

So, where's the 100% content for the combined accounts if you can't access anything before LA & it's Canthan counterpart? hmmmm....

felinette

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

This totally sucks. I was looking forward to taking my Canthan characters over to Tyria and starting from the very first mission. The early ones would be a cake walk, but still.

And yeah, I thought merging accounts meant all characters could play ALL content from Prophecies and Factions (barring the training areas, of course).

X Fire Storm

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

[Load]

W/Mo

if you can ascend then you will be able to go to fow and get fow armor for new chac

abyssal hunter

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guardians Of The Ashes (Leader)

E/Me

how do u get ur factions char to tyria?

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by X Fire Storm
if you can ascend then you will be able to go to fow and get fow armor for new chac
There are Canthan entrances to FoW and UW.

Quote:
Originally Posted by abyssal hunter
how do u get ur factions char to tyria?
Search is your friend.That has been asked and answered many, many times.

Pevil Lihatuh

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

I don't find it stupid that you can't do everything in Tyria with your Canthan char. I DO however find it stupid that once you've linked Factions to your account, you can't make an assassin or ritualist in Tyria. Surely it wouldn't have hurt them too much to put in 2 extra npcs into pre-sear for quests, and then, what... 4 more npcs pre-kryta for them too? Laziness on their part if you ask me.

felinette

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pevil Lihatuh
I don't find it stupid that you can't do everything in Tyria with your Canthan char.
I find what they said misleading. They said if you linked Factions and Prophecies, you'd get two more character slots, and all content for all characters. That turned out to be false. Also, someone said in another thread that characters coming over from Cantha start outside the gates of Lion's Arch. If that's true, they could have had the Canthans talk to an NPC outside the gates and then transport them to Old Ascalon. Mhenlo could have made it through before the gates closed, or something like that. They could have fudged it somehow.

Quote:
I DO however find it stupid that once you've linked Factions to your account, you can't make an assassin or ritualist in Tyria. Surely it wouldn't have hurt them too much to put in 2 extra npcs into pre-sear for quests, and then, what... 4 more npcs pre-kryta for them too? Laziness on their part if you ask me.
Yeah, I said the same in another thread. I sat down Saturday morning thinking that I'd create a ritualist for the prophecies campaign. Was surprised and disappointed when only the six original professions came up. Honestly, I expected that adding new classes meant you could play those classes in any of the campaigns.

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Anet's definition of 100% content is bulls***.

luckystrikes03

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Chapter 3 went from "i'll buy" to "I'll wait and see"

Developers really need to watch what they promise. If a game is hyped up, it had better have all the expectations and more. Breaking this rule damages the series, and probably more important to the corporation, their reputation with the gamers.

Thorinfire

Thorinfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shiverpeaks

Ambassadors of Enlightenment [SAGE]

R/

I agree from a story perspective it doesn't make sense for Canthan's to access Tyria prior to LA. BUT as others have said we were promised 100% content from both. And what is there prior to LA; 8 missions +/-? , thats 1/3rd of the game content.

Conversely, Tyrian toons should also be able to do all the Canthan Quests, all except ones that would be considered "pre-searing" in Cantha.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by luckystrikes03
Chapter 3 went from "i'll buy" to "I'll wait and see"
Chapter 2 has just from 'I'll get it later' to 'I'll get it when they get there f*cking act together'

At this rate, NEVER!

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

actually no need to ascend to get FoW armor on Ritualist or assassins (so they may not have) since UW and FoW are accessible from factions. It really will upset me though if not EVERY SINGLE QUEST in tyria is available to my factions character, since I paid for every single one.

It is possble however that you'll have to 'unlock' tyria full exploration by completing the entire Canthan storyline (as implied in the quest dialogue for Chaos in Kryta)

INFPGeek

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Pennsylvania

I will need to try with another canthan character; but I believe when you do the quest to gain access to Tyria, Mhenlo makes some statement about helping them AFTER you finish what you have set out to do in Cantha. I think you can get there beforehand; but I don't think the missions will be available until you beat Factions....

... could anyone confirm that?

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
I dont care what the excuse, if you own both games, you should be able to run all your characters through all missions regardless. I paid the money, I want results.
I agree. They told us we would have access to all of the content if we linked our accounts. It seems that the good thing to do would have been to keep my accounts seperate. Guild Wars was short as it is, now we can't do a bunch of the quests?

Can Anet do this? Can they say one thing, announce one thing, then do another?

Kylie Minon

Kylie Minon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Argentina

Acolitos del Tango [AR]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alias_X
I agree. They told us we would have access to all of the content if we linked our accounts. It seems that the good thing to do would have been to keep my accounts seperate. Guild Wars was short as it is, now we can't do a bunch of the quests?

Can Anet do this? Can they say one thing, announce one thing, then do another?
My best guess is they are "tweaking" Tyria for Assasin and Rit.

If not, they said one thing and done a different one.

PS: Like one previous poster said, this went from "I'll buy GWF!" to "I´ll wait and see"...

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

I'm waiting, I'm sure you'll be able to. No one has completely cleared out cantha yet and the stuff past LA, so I'm sure you're able too. The missions back there might even be changed completely depending on your country. Assassin warp skills also pose a trouble to how things work, I'm sure this isn't a problem... or at least won't be in the near future.

fog_of_redoubt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kylie Minon
My best guess is they are "tweaking" Tyria for Assasin and Rit.

If not, they said one thing and done a different one.

PS: Like one previous poster said, this went from "I'll buy GWF!" to "I´ll wait and see"...
So you think they released it before it was done?

ThunderStruck

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
Not that I've ever heard. But I do remember the explanation from A-net about getting 2 additional slots when you merge the campaigns being better than having them as seperate accounts going like this:

6 characters X 100% content > 8 characters with 50% of the content.

So, where's the 100% content for the combined accounts if you can't access anything before LA & it's Canthan counterpart? hmmmm....
Yeah, I remember this, and now I am angry! 6 chars x 80% of the other continent vs. 8 x 100% of each continent!

Cymboric Treewalker

Cymboric Treewalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Imperial Palace - Cantha

[SFK] Sacred Forge Knights (founder)

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
There are Canthan entrances to FoW and UW.

Search is your friend.That has been asked and answered many, many times.
There are times when SEARCH is broken, but we can let you be a bitter ankle biter.

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymboric Treewalker
There are times when SEARCH is broken, but we can let you be a bitter ankle biter.
It doesn't take a genuis to figure out where the answers are either. But we can let you be a jackass all you want.

Nater

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Illusion Of Skill

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
It doesn't take a genuis to figure out where the answers are either. But we can let you be a jackass all you want.
Search is junk half the time.

This news is indeed disappointing that Canthan characters can't do all the missions yet.

Gargle Blaster

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005



i just read this thread and wow.... im pissed!!! there is no valid reason why you should not have access to all the content with merged chars.


1. you cant go back in time...

well if this was true then you sould only be able to do every mission only once and in order.

2. Anet is in busness to make money

well thats fine but it does not explain a loss of content.


Anet you really screwed the pooch on this one. i read the forums you said 100% content (not to mention the loss of char slots or relative storage space -- problems i have been dealing with but un-happy about)... i would not have purchased fractions if i knew i was not getting what you said i was!!!!!!! false advertizing... fraud...

All missions should be able to be completed by all characters. either that or give me my $ back and goodbye.

Kylie Minon

Kylie Minon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Argentina

Acolitos del Tango [AR]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by fog_of_redoubt
So you think they released it before it was done?
I think so.

khelben

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Celestial Order

W/Mo

So what are the areas in Cantha that my Tyrian characters can't play in?

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

My post from the sister thread (until they get merged)..

All of you, on both sides of the issue may be completely wrong. As a guildie pointed out, wait until you finish Hell's Precipice and the Titan Quests to see if that is true or not. It's quite possible that due to the different designs (Factions level 1-19 are basically training, Prophecies basically 1-5 are training), they couldn't just start you in Ascalon (not counting the harbour issue).

They've always said you would transfer over at Lion's Arch. That has been confirmed.

As far as geting 100% access if you merge, but getting 50% access if you don't, well who's to say that's still not true. Who's to say that after finishing Hell's Precipice and maybe the Titan Quests that you don't play in the Ascalon mission areas backwards in an attempt to retake/restore Ascalon from the Charr? Once someone completes the 'normal' game and maybe Titan Quests we can tell.

It's quite possible that Ascalon is the end-game area for Canthans. In that case, they would be spoiling the surprise if they told you early.

Gargle Blaster

Gargle Blaster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberNigma
My post from the sister thread (until they get merged)..

All of you, on both sides of the issue may be completely wrong. As a guildie pointed out, wait until you finish Hell's Precipice and the Titan Quests to see if that is true or not. It's quite possible that due to the different designs (Factions level 1-19 are basically training, Prophecies basically 1-5 are training), they couldn't just start you in Ascalon (not counting the harbour issue).

They've always said you would transfer over at Lion's Arch. That has been confirmed.

As far as geting 100% access if you merge, but getting 50% access if you don't, well who's to say that's still not true. Who's to say that after finishing Hell's Precipice and maybe the Titan Quests that you don't play in the Ascalon mission areas backwards in an attempt to retake/restore Ascalon from the Charr? Once someone completes the 'normal' game and maybe Titan Quests we can tell.

It's quite possible that Ascalon is the end-game area for Canthans. In that case, they would be spoiling the surprise if they told you early.
well i hope you are right... but then i would think sombody from Anet would have comented in one of these threads by now.

Beat_Go_Stick

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Can you do skill quests with a R/Rt in Tyria and get Ritualist skills from it?

In other words, I have a R/Me who I didn't do all the quests with. There is a quest that gives me a Ranger skill and a Mesmer skill as a reward. If I change my secondary class to Ritualist, will my reward then be a Ranger skill and a Ritualist skill? Or will it just give me the Ranger skill and kick me in the nuts?

Masseur

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Southern California

R/Mo

So remind me where it says that individual users decide what is full content? If by full content they (the developers) mean after LA, then we have 100% content as promised. NO ONE ELSE's opinion matters as what the actual description of full content is. We can suggest, hope or whatever, but it is what they made it and that's it. The rest is extra that we weren't given the ability to mission or quest, but only to explore.

sinisters chaos

sinisters chaos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

ATLANTA

No Clue [emt]

W/R

wow masseur, i hope one day you try to sella game with that "sneaky" attitude of yours, and last i checked ITS OUR OPINIONS that matter, we feed their faces with money not the other way around.
also, i know what 100% means, and it does not mean, EVERYTHING in tyria EXCEPT preLA, so have a nice time giving GW the ownership of their own "personal dictionary"

Also, search on this site is 100% horrible.. just to clear that up.

And finally, i am withdrawing form this flame wars (my favorite) cuz i think that once u beat 100% of cantha then maybe you can explor all of tyria, anyone who has beaten cantha and cant do pre/LA missions please post hre, also the idea that you can do preLA after u beat 100% of cantha and all missions AFTER LA, makes no sense cuz thats GW saying "the story to our games doesnt matter"