Full-scale Grandmaster Cartography Map Aid

98.1%! Looks like I missed a tidbit of watchtower coast.

hm, only got another .2 for redoing nolani....up to 96.7% and lost as to where another 3% is hiding on my mostly clear map....................(since I sincerely doubt the small edges of 2 missions will net me that much---they havent as of yet).

I am starting to think it is impossible for me to accomplish 100% given the following: 1. I just started GW in january so the old arena areas are unavailable to me. 2. I never bothered to do the Ascalon and Yak arenas and now my level is too high to visit those places.

My % is currently 96.9%. I have compared my map to Leighwyn's (Thank you for this btw) and I am hard pressed to find any differences.

With the exception of the fire isles missions, I have redone every mission and exposed all of the 'bonus' areas. Again, my map is identical to leigh's for all mission areas and other map areas as well.

I can see two areas in the fire isles that i need to hit. But this will add a couple of .1's if im lucky. Basically all the gains I have had since I hit 92% or so has been in .1 increments.

So with 96.9% this means there are still 31 spots I have missed. I find this highly unlikely.

Has anyone else run into this type of situation?

It seems like a lot of people feel as you do, yzeass, so I'm going to also upload my zoomed-out map. In all honesty, comparing between mine and a 100%-er's zoomed out maps is how I found a lot of where I was lacking (reference the thread in the Tyrian Explorer forum).

I'll reiterate the technique that someone posted in that thread:

• Download my zoomed-out map
• Save a Screen of your own zoomed-out map
• Rename both of these such that they are alphabetically consecutive
• Run / Download & Install IrfanView (free)
• Open the first image in it and hit Enter to enter fullscreen
• Hit the right arrow to advance to the second image, hit left, hit right, keep quickly flashing back and forth between the two

You should be able to find the variables using this method, that's the way I found mine. The method really shines for shiverpeaks areas, but can be tricky for Ascalon and Jungle thanks to cloud cover.

I put the image as a second link in the original post.

I really need help finding my last 2% for my 100%. I've searched all over but I just can't seem to find the places I need so I stiched up my maps to see if anyone can at least give me a relative place to look. This is driving me crazy >_<.

Ascalon - http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?i...alonmap0op.jpg
Northern Shiverpeaks - http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?i...eaksmap7js.jpg
Krtya + Magumma - http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ummamap6jb.jpg
Crystal Desert - http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?i...sertmap9hz.jpg
Southern Shiverpeaks - http://img139.imageshack.us/my.php?i...eaksmap8dd.jpg
Ring of Fire - http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?im...firemap2aj.jpg
Full Map - http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fullmap0bc.jpg

So not sure if it's been confirmed or not, but is it impossible for Canthan Characters to get 100% in Tyria and Tyrians 100% in Cantha?

Seems like it would not be possible with missions and thier areas being not accessable.

two more spots for ya Leighwyn

I am at 99.4 but I can still tell the difference between my map and his map, 98% should have no difficulties

i just spent 2 mins and found this

Here is what I've found, Bartuc:

ASCALON
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Nolani western and southern edges, check those.

Grenditch Courthouse city, back area. Run around in it.

NORTH SHIVERPEAKS
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Outside Ice Cave, the very NW corner of the zone.

On Frost Gate mission, western edge, a little below the ice cave would be a good landmark. Its the blackish area outside explorable space.

Eastern edge of the zone with all the losaru, between ice cave and beacon's perch.


DESERT
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Amnoon Oasis, itself. West part.

Southwest corner of Thirsty River

Southeast corner of Thirsty River

Southeast corner of Arid Sea

Northwest corner of Dunes of Despair

SOUTHERN SHIVERPEAKS
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Northern part of the "Talus Chute Secret Area" on the easter edge

Northern edge of Frozen Forest (pretty much whole thing)

Eastern edge of Iron Mines mission (a few various places)

Found a spot that IM missing in Tasca's, thanks

A dot in Snakes Dance on the western edge, almost exaclty opposite the Sorrow's Furnace zone (furnace, not grenth's footprint)

THE HUGE IMAGE (hard for me to tell, but I will try)
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Gates of Kryta Northeast corner, where you take the back path by Oink and there are bunches of undead

Northwest corner of Divinity mission, as well as its northern edge in places

The very Northeastern corner of the Villainy of Galrath zone.

I found a dot missing on mine in Taamek or whatever, SE corner, some island.

Thats all I've got, but i'll look at your zoomed out map to be certain

Addendum for stuff from zoomed out map.....

More than just the SE corner of Arid Sea, there is a spot missing on the southern edge where the dark rockish thing is.

Western edge of the southeast zone of ascalon, i forget its name. The one that when you exit Fort Ranik, you're already in.

Also the Nolani fort at the very south, missing some in the back of it.

Northern edge of the Ice Cave zone, about 2/3 of the way if you're moving east from the left. Also all of the western edge, though it may be clouds. Worth checking to be sure.

A spot on the south eastern edge of Frost Gate, to go along with the one mentioned above.

Southwest edge of the zone when you exit Bloodstone Fen. May be clouds.

Very eastern edge of Ascalon (the kingdom), sort of even with the Great Northern Wall pin.

A spot in either Borlis Pass or the zone above it, vertically aligned with Droknar's pin (I don't see a good match anywhere closer for its location)

A big area in the very north edge of the Yak's Bend zone, may be the arena but I dont think ALL of it is.

Tired....reply back when all of these many spots are done with what your percentage is now.

I don't understand, when should I reveal the backline without mursaat attack? before killing the fort boss? I can't reveal the top left coner after the cutscence becasue there are too many mursaat.

If you have some free time Leighwyn, can you look at this please?
Zoomed out map
I've highlighted some bits in red which I know can be uncovered.

I will check it out later today. Also, did a major overhaul of the map, fixing about 10 tiny holes it had. There is still the one spot in Lornar's, two spots on eastern Iron Mines border, and I am going to try Hell's again to see if i can get anymore. Other than those four spots, let me know if you all find anything else.


edit: Here is your list, Buzzer:

North edge of the zone between Yaks and Ascalon stuff, the foothills

spot in the southwest area of Iron Horse Mine zone

North, West edges of anvil rock and maybe some interior points, hard to tell with clouds

West edge at start of frost gate

very SW corner of frost gate, which is revealed from Lornar's Pass eastern edge corner area

Middleish area of Gates of Kryta mission, one of the peninsulas that juts out westward into the snaking river. The southern edge of that

Northern edge of Sanctum Cay mission, where the beach is there. Go all along it.

Southern edge of Kessex Peak

The Wilds mission lake in the NE, you can reveal the whole far edge of it

Also the orange stuff in the SW corner of Wilds, can reveal more there.

SW edge of Silverwood

SE corner of The Falls (while you're there to get the NW part, hit this)

Aurora Glade bonus area, in the back of the end of the mission (to the far east)

Bottom of Maguuma Stade city pin thing

Very western part of Sanctum Cay, which you reveal from the Riverside mission at the far east, where the docks are.

South-middle edge of Grenth's Footprint

A bit on the eastern edge of Spearhead Peak, basically level with the Sorrow's Furnace entrance zone

Western and Southern edges of Mineral Springs, as well as some of the Ice Cave in the NE of that zone.

Both sides (E, W edges) of iron mines mission, various places

Frozen Forest Northern edge, mostly all of it.

Talus Chute, north edge pretty far over to the west

Very west of Ice Floe, you can reveal a bit of land that will connect with Ice Caves mission area

Thunderhead Keep, the eastern edge at the end area.

Snakes Dance, a dot on the western edge opposite the Sorrow Furnace entrance pit zone thing

Thirsty River, whole southern edge.

Dunes mission SW corner

West edge just outside Hero's Audience

Interior portion of desert, in Prophet's Path near the zone to Salt Flats.

Very southern tip of Hell's Precipice

Ice cave of the Borlis Pass mission, the southern edge of it.



Thats all I can see so far, get those done with and repost your updated map and I may notice others!

Oh, and on Sanctum Cay you have those two red circles. You should draw a third circle above the two, since you are missing a spot there also.

here is my latest map......I still have thunderhead to do and a bit of the sanctum mission to run to (and the corner of dunes and that annoying spot on the 1st mission which I need someone to give me good enough directions to get to).......but think these will not net me another 1.8% when the biggest areas I had fogged only netted me .2....

I need some additional help finding that last %

Is there any way for you to get a res higher than 1024x768? It's really hard to see things that small. Even if your comp runs it poorly, just for screening is there a way to bump it up.

no, its a laptop and thats the best I can do.....I can do the screen shots of the smaller maps (U) if that would help

You are a champ Leighwyn. Off I go to fill in the map

here are the first bunch of maps..ascalon and the top of shiverpeaks

and the next group...........

kryta area maps.........

heading south

still more (wish I knew how to upload more than 5 at a time)

the desert..........last bunch


i hope this helps......this took me over an hour to compile

I'll check all these screens out in detail fo ryou, cosyfiep, especially since you put so much time into making them

Alright, heres the updated map. After going through all those points, I'm left at 99.2%. I waited for a good time to take the screenie to see if I could get a shot with as few clouds over the zone as possible. Thanks for all the help Leighwyn, you own.
Full Screen - http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw0072vw.jpg

thx for the map I got gm today

Bartuc:

On the route between destiny's gorge and thirsty river, there is a clump of green stuff not fully revealed. No very good landmarks, but its on the Eastern half and in the first big section of that area.

In the zone going north from Copperhammer, there is a spot in the very NE corner.

In the IDS cave of mineral springs, the very NE corner is not fully revealed

A few spots in Lornar's, one on the SW corner and two on both the top and bottom of the eastern part of the "throat" section near the start (before the first wurms). The top spot that I'm describing is sort of a part of the frost gate area, and the bottom part is directly opposite it as you travel south.

Your Dragon Gullet line that extends along the northern edge in the zoomed out map isnt as solid as mine, so you are prolly missing some edge there

Also a spot in the flame corridor, SE corner.

At the very start of frost gate, all the way to the west there is a tiny area missing.

Interior of the losaru-infested region between Ice Caves and Beacon's Perch, seems to be an interior spot missing in the middle, northern half. May be clouds

Borlis Pass ice cave bonus area, missing a spot on its SE corner

BIG SPOT ALERT! The beach due north of Lion's Arch is missing stuff throughout its expanse.

Very eastern part of Riverside, a spot that you can reach which reveals some of Sanctum Cay as well is missing. You have to walk on the docks there near the end to reveal.

Dry Top NE corner

Druid's Overlook, SE edge where the water is

Another spot in riverside along the south edge, sort of halfway thru the tan wall stuff.

SW Corner of snakes is missing

Maybe the eastern edge of snakes at the first troll cave, could be clouds.


Check those, repost map with new %

Cosyfiep:

In grendich, run around the northern edge to reveal a spot.

Great Northern Wall, take the last path on your West as you are fleeing (just before the gate that opens), where charr run out of. Explore that as much as possible to reveal more.

Eastern frontier, very northern edge, past the wall etc., just west of the weird red slashes. Can be revealed more.

NOTE: MISSING NORTHERN PART OF SURMIA, COULD BE MISSING SOME THINGS THERE.

Explore the "secret area" of Gates of Kryta, entrance near Oink and area full of undead.

In Lornar's Pass, where it touches the SW corner of Frost Gate zone, right before the necking begins, there is a spot to reveal.

Likewise in Lornar's, below the point just mentioned, there is a spot missing around the cul-de-sac where the first stone summit bride is, the northern edge of that spot.

Missing part of the "Secret Talus Chute area", if you dont know how to get there I think there is a screen in this thread.

In Frozen Forest, south edge, the western summit cul-de-sac area has a bit missing.

Frozen Forest northern edge, thoroughly recheck.

Eastern edge of the zone when you leave Copperhammer north.

NE corner of the zone mentioned above.

North area of Thunderhead Keep, all the black stuff that's missing out there.

NE corner of Dreadnaught's Drift.

NW corner of D'Alessio Seaboard.

NW corner of Divinity, as well as the mouth of the river in that mission.

READ: MORE GATES STUFF SO DONT LEAVE IT YET Explore the eastern edge of Gates of Kryta, most places of it.

Missing a spot in Riverside, southern edge, 5/8 into the tannish wall roughly (moving W to E).

North corner of Eastern edge of the HOD explorable area.

Very NW corner of the Kessex, I think you reveal it from the beach of Talmark Wilderness

North-middle edge of the explorable area outside Bloodstone Fen, along with the eastern edge of that zone.

You can reveal more of the Wilds mission orange stuff in the SW.

Very NE corner of wilds also.

SE corner of the west half of Majesty's Rest. The spot is the very SW part of the green area.

Almost immediately SW of exiting Amnoon Oasis, a dead end you missed.

NW corner of Amnoon Oasis, may be only revealable from PvP arena.

Southern edge of Hero's Audience city

SW and SE corners of dunes (dont need to go to the secret eastern area to reveal these, i meant the corners where the forts are)

SE corner of Arid Sea

Southern edge of Thirsty River (mostly SW corner)

I think very SW corner of Seeker's Passage.

You are also missing a map of Nolani Academy mission, could be lacking there (I sure was).


That's all I've found, I recommend doing all those, then reposting your 1024x768 zoomed-out map and I will try my best to glean any more from it (also post your % afterwards)

Leighwyn, just a few things from your list:

I think the discrepancy between our maps is because you're missing some, not me.

This bit was revealed from the Sanctum Cay mission, not from the jetty (which reveals one of the spots I gave you earlier)

Some more bits I found for you:
Compare our zoomed-out maps and look at where Lornar's Pass bottle-necks and then widens out.

In the Gates of Kryta, there is a very hard to see bit you've missed directly west of the 'Dreadnought's Drift' text. It should reveal a little more of those black things just off the coast from that notch in the coastline.

Thanks again

Hello guys,

Well first of all, let me thank you for the impressive work on the maps, it's very useful for those of us who get stuck at 9x.x %.

I'm currently having a problem with exploring the Northern Wall mission. There is an area which I can't seem to access (though I've tried going there from all over, inclunding old ascalon and the breach). Here is a picture of the area I'm referring to :



I'd greatly appreciate any help about the way to get there ! Thanks in advance

you are asking the exactly same question I asked before. After the countdown you go on the bridge and head back, and then you just findthe path on your right to that spot, the path is very short and you can easily reach the dead end. it is not difficult to be found.

can u post a screen shot, i cant find that place too.

Same for me. I'm sorry, but I don't really get your explanation (which bridge are you talking about ? There are three of them...)

"Great Northern Wall, take the last path on your West as you are fleeing (just before the gate that opens), where charr run out of. Explore that as much as possible to reveal more."

If you could re submit a normal sized copy of your zoomed out map that would help. Your map is like 1375 X 1075, or some odd amount of pixels. If you , OR ANYONE ELSE, could post a 1600X1200 full zoomed out map, then we could all superimpose our own 1600X1200 in photoshop, hit the "difference" key, and see exactly what we are missing.

Thanks

Ya I'm not sure what I did to get that res. I don't have a monitor that supports 1200 lines, only 1050 max. What I CAN do is post a 1280x1024 and you can just turn your own resolution down to that. Check the links in the OP for it; I left it as an uncompressed bitmap for optimal usage.

Just as an FYI, the difference filter probably wont yield the best results since cloud cover will be completely different, affecting the contrast of every pixel on the map. I'll leave you to try it out and see to be sure, though I am guessing its effectiveness is probably equivalent to the "swap back and forth" technique I mentioned.

Leighwyn ran with me to that spot and I never go there again, so Leighwyn could describe better than me

I really appreciate your work and your effort in helping other people, Leighwyn.
I'm following this thread since i made my map of Cantha.
Maybe it was the wrong place to post but since I was so enthusiastic about finishing cartographing there I searched for some place to share it.
Well afterwards I wanted to cartograph Tyria since it's double size of Cantha, meaning some special challange.
Besides the not accessible cooperative mission before Lion's Arch i got this one quote in my mind:
Now I achieved 90,2% in Tyrian Cartographing but slowly i'm getting sceptic if a canthan Character can reach those 100% in Tyria.
I attached my map here:
A canthan map of Tyria
I know there are some unexplored areas in:
Snake Dance, Dreadnought's Drift, Lonar's Pass
Dunes of Despair
Ironmines of Molandune
Thunderhead Keep
Ring of Fire
Abaddon's Mouth
Hell's Precipice

but the thing is I can't see 9,8% in those spots.
So I also have one question to ask:
Do you consider it different?
Thanks already...

There could easily be 9.2% in those areas assuming you don't have them explored at all yet. Even partially explored those areas can get you very close to that and then you are problably missing slight areas in nooks and crannies.

Final Update
I'm at 99.9% and I'm puling my hair out trying to find the last spot. I'm now offering 10k if someone can find the spot and it brings me up to 100%.
Full Map - http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gw0101qz.jpg