Survivor Title

don't PvP till you get 3rd?

prot spirit won't help you from the meditation, though...

I am getting close to the survivor title on one of my characters and was wondering what is considered a "death" by the game. I am running out of quests to do and am a little nervous about missions. This is what I want to know. I attempted to do a search on this several times, but the search function was disabled.

1- If you are on a mission where the NPC dies and the mission ends, does that count as a death?

2- If you die in PvP, does that count as a "death"?

I am avoiding missions with NPC's in them just for the fear that this would be counted as a "death" as far as the title goes.

1. No. Even though it looks like you are dead you aren't. Death count should still be zero.

2. Yes. If you die in PvP that counts as a death.

You can do missions with NPCs. If they die it shouldn't matter. Only when your character is specifically killed is there a death.

Lafayette's right. And just before anyone asks, yes, Dragon Arena deaths count too. It's PvP. >_>

Okay, I created a new character that I intend to acheive the "Survivor" title with (gain lots of experience without dying). Don't worry, I will not enter PuG's with this character, since Survivors may tend to leave games before they die to preserve their title. I will only use hechmen, along with guildies who also plan on seeking the survivor title with me. Survivor teams ftw

However, there was a problem: After pre-searing in Ascalon, you are put into a group of people (or henchies), and you do a 3 minute PvP battle with another random team. However, my character (who I intend to seek the Survivor title) died here 2 times. I had no idea that deaths here would count as deaths to prevent me from getting my Survivor title. I type /deaths and the message says "You have died 2 times". Now this makes me feel annoyed. Now I have to re-start a new character to get my survivor title.

How can I possibly acheive my survivor title if I am going to do a 3 minute PvP fight? I can probably tank a little bit, but it would be hard to survive the whole way through

Is there any way to avoid this problem? I do not wish to participate in the 3 minute PvP battle after pre-searing. I want my survivor title. What can I do to stop myself from dying? Any thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Thanks in advance.

I have heard you can log out, and when you log back in later you go to the mission or post-Searing, not sure which.

I have not confirmed it. I have, on one character, managed to skip the PVP entirely by chance. I clicked to leave pre-Searing and went straight to the mission.

I rather wish ArenaNet would remove that PVP bit, though. It's not really indicative of what PVP is like.

The above is true when you load in to the PVP bit log off then back on and you will appear at the missions where you have to kill the char with a set of henchmen.

You can run around for three minutes, or retreat way into the back of the area.
An other option is check what kind of players are in your team. When you don't like it, simply leave. Don't worry. Hardily anybody is taking that part serious, and will not be annoyed when you leave.
It would be nice if you gave them warning in advance, but many of them will completely ignore you not able to speak english.

i can confirm the log off trick

that pvp fight is pretty easy though .. if u dont wanna skip it..

-xp yer char a bit, lvl 5 can be done pretty easily
-do it when fewer ppl are online in inter chan, u ll get lotsa henchies on both sides ..
btw when the pvp fight is henchies ONLY, it's skipped as well

i did it with a lvl 2 R and a lvl 3 N, just let the ppl come and killed em easily, most ppl are rushing the thing so they are lvl 2-3 most of the time

I can confirm that quitting/logging out when the PVP battle starts, and then logging back in a bit later will take you to after the battle, where Prince Rurik does his little speech, etc.

I learned the hard way about losing the title in the battle.. a new char I had spent 3 hours doing *every* quest (trying out all secondaries, everything). Did the PVP (dying twice but winning the match), continued to Ascalon, and noticed I had lost the title progress. I was a bit peeved.

Learned that you can avoid the PVP battle later when I remade him. Just logout before it starts. To be safe, I waited about 5 minutes before logging back in. Dunno if it matters.

Every time I've done the PVP fight, my team has 1-2 henchmen and the highest level is 7-8, while the other team has no henchmen, and the highest level is 10-12.

Really puts me off the whole thing.

Hmmm. Nice. So I can go into International district 2 when nobody is there, log in and hope for henchies. Hopefully the whole PvP will be skipped. If it is not skipped, maybe I can log out staright away and everybody thinks I had an err=7 or somoething?

Thanks for the help guys

Do you think people will be annoyed if I log out of this battle? Somebody mentioned it is not that really a serious part of the game.

It doesn't matter in which district you are. The game will auto-district you during the mission.
I wouldn't mind if you logged out, because 9 out of 10 times you are teaming up with lvl 2 and 3 players. Who cares?

ive done the same, and was quite worried about the pvp bit. But my lvl8 handled fine..in fact my team won 11-0

Does anyone know if the survivor title is reserved exclusively for those with 0 deaths, or if perhaps its possible by gaining experience and not dying now for existing characters?

Thanks for any replies.

PS. What I'd really love to hear from is someone who has tried getting the survivor title after deaths.

exclusively for those with 0 deaths

Not possible, only way is to start on another new character. At 0 deaths, a Survivor title line shows up under your titles tab with how much xp you have gained and how much you need to the next level of survivor title. Once you die, that title disappears if you haven't earn lvl 1 and get frozen if you die after obtaining one of the lvls. Each new character has 1 shot at it.

Ok my question (KINDA AIMED AT YOU, YES YOU GUILDWAR DESIGNERS)
How come my OLD character cannot get a shot at this? If I would have known I get a title for not dying 13 months ago, I would have tried not to die LOL. I'm at this great farming area, I get 336 XP PER KILL, and I kill 18 mobs PER RUN, with each run taking 7 or less minutes. so like 45K XP an hour. IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN I WOULD BE 1ST PERSON TO GET THE HIGHEST SURVIVOR!

There are other titles that they should've retro activated, such as the wisdom one, etc etc, and also the 5000 xp you get for capping a skill.

How well does the 55 HP monk/spiteful spirit necro work for Factions? I want to go for the survivor title and need to know which minions I'll have trouble with alone.

If this isn't the best choice for Factions what would be a good build to solo farm and hopefully obtain survivor?

Thanks!

55 isnt a good plan to get the survivor title with, especially in factions. This is mainly because nearly every mob in factions has enchantment removal, or some other counter to 55.

Well, I've already started a Mo/N. What other ideas would you suggest for this type character.

Also, once you obtain the title, it doesn't go away after you die, right? I know it does while your working for the experience but once it's yours, it's yours to stay, correct?

As a Mo/N I would go either pure heal, or pure protection, you will find it very easy to get into groups and if your being pounded by Melee or your hexed with degen, you can heal/protect yourself. Going 55 would mean you cannot contribute to the group for missions/quests.

As for keeping the title:

Solofarmers do not become survivors, IMO.

Otherwise, the best farming builds I've so far found in Factions is a variant of Racthohs FoW spider-farming warrior, and a Touch Ranger. Since you've already got a monk and want to farm with it, you could try the Protective Spirit + Spirit Bond solo-monk build (see the '605 build' thread in the monk forum), it's a lot more robust than the 55 build.

As others have stated, in Factions, enchants have all the staying-power of a snowball in hell.

I've gotten a few titles and I hope to get them all if that will ever be possible for me. So I decided to go for the Survivor title next.

I found a repeatable quest outside of Lutgardis Conservatory in Factions that a lot of people seem to be interested in doing... a lot... The one from Scoutmaster Arne called 'Securing Echovald Forest'. It's one of the easiest for me to do.

Now since I don't remember how much EXP I had when I started doing this I couldn't properly track how close I was getting to activating the title. But then I realised that I could track it by how much Amber I have gained. Since it is the only thing I've done in the past week that even gives faction.

Now if it takes 140,600exp to activate the first level of Survivor (thats what all the elite fansites say) then I should've had it a long time ago. But I don't for some reason.

My reasoning is that two days ago I gained 18 amber, and yesterday another 24, plus today another 8. That equals 50 amber, which in turn is 50,000 Kurzick Faction all obtained from that one quest. If you divide that 50,000 by the 400 faction reward you get every time you finish the quest, it will equal 125. The number of times I've thus far completed the quest without dying.

If you take the minimum Survivor title requirement, 140,600exp and divide that by 2,000exp (the amount of exp you get each time you finish that quest), you will get 70.3. So I would need to finish that quest 70.3 (or 71) to activate the minimum Survivor.

But as we've already seen I've done that quest -many- more times then that. And no, I have not died once, not once! If I had died I would know because then I'd have to wait for a ressurect.

Since GW Support always answers all of my technical issues with 'post on a fansite', I figured I'd do it here since this is my favourite of all the sites. I've also checked the GW Wiki and found something that totally confused me, it says

I don't believe getting the /deaths command reset to 0 is even possible?!? I've never heard of it at least.

So, now I'm totally confused and at a loss. If anyone knows anything thats helpful I'd appreciate it. Because thus far I've gained 250,000exp without a death, and the title refuses to activate.

You can only achieve the Survivor title with a /deaths return of 0. This means none of your previous characters that you had leveled or played are eligible (if they have died at all, as most have).

I'm not sure if that was what you were asking, but if so there's your answer. The survivor title is only reachable by new characters created and leveled with no deaths whatsoever.

Even though I can now farm 1 million XP with my monk without a single death, I am not eligible for the survivor title as I had died some 1300 times throughout playing Prophecies and Factions.

Well thats no fun :/

I seriously hope its altered in the future so that you may obtain it regardless of how many past deaths you've had. Just so long as you meet the reguire exp without a death. Sort of like charging, it would reset once you died but as long as you lived it would keep building up. From everything I have read thus far thats how I believed it to be, until I saw GW Wiki....

It's a good idea....

I -think-...


Rofl

Don't ask xD

it's far easier to gain 1,337,000 or whatever lvl 3 is with a max lvl char than it is to achieve that level to start with :\ idk I think the title is fine as is. It really just says that you farmed a ton or otherwise did something to get the title without dying.

I made this mistake too thinking all I had to do was "survive", Ive started a new Mesmer anyway, and am currently working on it, so far Im lvl14, its taking a little longer in Tyria, but I love playing the prohecies campaign. Im screenshotting as I go along, kinda like a diary , best part is, that I get to work on Tyrian Explorers title again

My first survivor is now in Bloodstain Fen. I have learned that when you die, failing a mission, doesn't count to your death. It is fun playing for survivor title from lvl 1. You'll really feel with your character, and the exitement of a near-death experience.
If one could go for the title at any moment in the game, no matter how much you died, the title would be worthless.

It would be kind of pointless being a survivor if you've already died, kind of blows the point.

ok so i know that you need to get 140k xp to unlock the survivor(1) title but what i dont get is, say if i die with the survivor title, can i still get the Indomitable Survivor and then Legendary Survivor or must i have gained that much xp without dieing a single time? also which are the 2 quests that give you the 15 extra attribute points?

once you die, you cannot progress further toward any survivor titles you have not yet earned... but you keep the ones you earned

The common misconception is that a Survivor title can be attained by any streak of a certain amount of XP. The truth is that you must start from zero and proceed without death to the 3 milestones.

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thanks guys

Does dieing in a pvp match, such as a guild battle, or arena battle, affect if you recieve the title of Survivor at lvl 20 or not?

Yes, all deaths will remove any chance for further advancement with the survivor title. If you already earned it you won't lose it however. If a mission critical NPC dies it's not counted as a death.

I think this is the most commonly asked question since I started lurking these forums, search, check the FAQ or check guildwiki, that'll answer most of your questions.

Almost everything you need to know about anything is on Guildwiki.

I would look there, next time, to save frowns from the Gods, and to save the Guru valuable bytes of space.

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