Survivor Title
Relambrien
Tyggen is mostly correct. When he refers to a Mission Critical NPC dying, it's one of those "the NPC died now the whole party sync-dies" things. It doesn't affect your chances of Survivor at all. Also, the orientation thing for Factions has you "killed" very early, yet if you type /deaths it still says 0. This is referred to as a mission where you have to die, and this death will not affect your chances of obtaining Survivor.
Mournblade
Um, you mean Tyggen is totally correct, you just rephrased the answer and gave a little more detail. :P
Damaris Arcadian
I have kind of a statement.. and a question. I worked pretty darn hard to earn the Survivor title with my assasin. And achieved getting lvl 1 survivor.. wich then I set my goals at gaining the lvl 2 Indomitable Survivor. To gain 587,500 exp without dyeing. Well.. I did All the Quests up to the Vizunah square mission.. gaining nearly 300,000 exp. In that mission.. Everyone dies at the end! But without the mission I couldnt advance!! And.. because it was a "required" in game death.. dureing a movie thing or whatever they call it 
.. I didnt think it was fair that death counted and ruined my chance at getting the lvl 2 surivor title.. 
Any one else think it unfair?
(and as a side note.. I was informed by the GW support staff to post the question on the forums to obtain opinions and feedback, so please be honest.
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.. I didnt think it was fair that death counted and ruined my chance at getting the lvl 2 surivor title.. Any one else think it unfair? (and as a side note.. I was informed by the GW support staff to post the question on the forums to obtain opinions and feedback, so please be honest.
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Arkantos
That death doesnt count...This has been confirmed before.
Damaris Arcadian
unfortunatly.. It did count. Death count 1.. and the survivor title stopped gaining at 274k exp.. wich I now have 310k. And.. where does it confirm it at?? Because if thats true.. I'd like to send it to the support team.
leech
you sure you didn't just die normally somewhere? i've seen posts where people have tested this
AW Lore
i did vizunah with my mesmer, she is at arborstone waiting for the weekend to get a guild group to do it, s he is lvl 1 of survivor, and did vizunah square, though i skipped the cinema
xiaotsu
The death doesn't count...you must not have been paying attention somewhere...
Kaguya
Yeah, Vizunah Square death doesn't count. I just passed my Ritualist survivor that mission, and now up to HzH/Cavalon. Tho I have a deathcount too now, somewhere between Boreas Seabed and Sunjiang District ><; No clue where it came from :B
Damaris Arcadian
I am 100% sure there was no deaths in between. I've had some realy awesome monks on my side. And a little bit of caution goes a long way. And just retested it with my Monk.. checked death count before and after the cinema.. and it counted 1 death up as well. Perhaps it was because the cinema wasnt skipped.. who knows.. but it sure is annoying to work so hard for something to lose it because of the Cinema.
Arkantos
My assassin just completes vizunah, still at 0 deaths..
Damaris Arcadian
Did everyone skip the cutscene?
pigfister
I have a ritulist down at vasburg armory with 0 /deaths so it cannot count, you must have died in game.
Monkey Blonde
If you couldn't get past Vizunah without dying, the picture in the link would not be possible. As I recall, most of my cut scenes have been skipped. Other deaths in cut scenes or as part of missions do not count, as have been tested. We should test this specific mission to be sure. However, I think it is more likely that you died during the cut scene due to damage inflicted before and during the scene ? Perhaps you had a degen hex or condition on you when the scene triggered ? Those deaths do count.
Relambrien
EDIT: Had an idiot moment so posting something different.
EDIT 2: Added some stuff.
You said you gained 300k experience BEFORE Vizunah Square, but your title stopped at 274k. You must've died before that. You said the same thing happened with your Monk but no one else here is experiencing that problem. Just something I thought I'd point out.
EDIT 2: Added some stuff.
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| unfortunatly.. It did count. Death count 1.. and the survivor title stopped gaining at 274k exp.. wich I now have 310k. And.. where does it confirm it at?? Because if thats true.. I'd like to send it to the support team. |
Seban Anu
Mes went through viznuh, no deaths. Do think we skipped the cutscene but its hard to believe that a cinema thinger would trigger a deathcount.. :| Sorry, if thats indeed the case.
Silver_Fang
it isn't the cut scene. and someone already point out the obvious flaw in the statement, he must have died somewhere way before the mission because he said it stop at 274k xp but he got 310k now, which i doubt the vizunah mission would give out that amount of xp.
Former Ruling
Your experience points from where you have stated seems to tell that you died somewhere in Kaineng City before that mission, and didn't think about it til after - and assumed this cutscene did it. Deaths mean so little in this game (3 sec down time at best...) that its sometimes hard to keep count of them if you are into the game. On a Warrior I made, I assumed I hasn't died and continued to get experience for two days before I checked and found out I had died somewhere.
But, It IS Confirmed (on GuildWiki atleast, with several people confirming it) that a bug exists in the mission where you can get deaths counted during that cutscene when certain conditions are met, so its just as possible that you actually did get "shafted" sort to speak.
But, It IS Confirmed (on GuildWiki atleast, with several people confirming it) that a bug exists in the mission where you can get deaths counted during that cutscene when certain conditions are met, so its just as possible that you actually did get "shafted" sort to speak.
Runner Of Fate
Well, in the vizuah square (or what ever its called :P) in the cutscene that IS counted as a death, so dont do that mission if you want to attaint survivor
Tachyon
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Well, in the vizuah square (or what ever its called :P) in the cutscene that IS counted as a death, so dont do that mission if you want to attaint survivor
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I deleted the character and started again! At least now I know where the death was from. Man I had about an hour just sitting there wracking my brains trying to recall where I'd died.
jasmynth
Er the vizunah cut scene does NOT count as a death. Only when you get killed does it count. When you fail a mission and everyone falls down dead does NOT count.
I know cos my ranger just did vizunah and is still on for the next level of survivor cos I just checked.
I know cos my ranger just did vizunah and is still on for the next level of survivor cos I just checked.
Tachyon
It definately counted as a death for me.
Silver_Fang
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Originally Posted by Azagoth
It definately counted as a death for me.
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The cutscene at the end of the mission does not kill.
Damaris Arcadian
It sure counted as a death for me to.. and I did some experimenting with my monk.. It's the Cutscene that kills. If someone in the party doesnt skip.. u get a death.. and lose the chance at the title.. If the Entire clip is skipped.. u Dont get a death. Stupid.. I think so. I lost my assasin's second survivor because of it.
Damaris Arcadian
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Originally Posted by Relambrien
You said you gained 300k experience BEFORE Vizunah Square, but your title stopped at 274k. You must've died before that. You said the same thing happened with your Monk but no one else here is experiencing that problem. Just something I thought I'd point out. |
And I continued doing quests and such.. because I assumed that 1 death didnt count. At the END of vizunah.. I had 274 k.. and thats when the title stopped.
Tachyon
Tell me about it! I took weeks to get this one character the Survivor (1) title because I went that slowly and methodically making sure I didn't die. Like I said above, I'm 100%, without any shadow of a doubt, certain that I didn't die before that cutscene.
There's just too many people claiming that it counted as a death for it to be a one off abnormality. Perhaps there's a set of parameters that's allows the game to count it as a death in certain circumstances. All I know is that it counted as one for me.
There's just too many people claiming that it counted as a death for it to be a one off abnormality. Perhaps there's a set of parameters that's allows the game to count it as a death in certain circumstances. All I know is that it counted as one for me.
Xenex Xclame
I cant test this myself right now but i believe you.And in the cutscene where shiro does some weird skill ,he DOES kill you , along with everyone else in the parties.So if Anet didnt seperate that death from the/deaths list then they should now.I would say report.
Relambrien
Ah sorry, I just don't consider 274k to be "nearly 300k." I would take "nearly 300k" to mean 290k+, which is why I misunderstood.
And while I've never had a problem with Vizunah, I'm surprised to see all these others having problems with it. I guess that is something for Anet to look into then.
On another note, my Monk just got Survivor today :P
And while I've never had a problem with Vizunah, I'm surprised to see all these others having problems with it. I guess that is something for Anet to look into then.
On another note, my Monk just got Survivor today :P
Damaris Arcadian
I have reported.. wich is what lead me to the forums. It was their suggestion to post and get other peoples ideas on the subject. And.. unforutnalty the reply I got back was that they we not going to reset the deaths. So.. hopefully in the future the issue with Vizunah will be solved.. but I doubt those of us who have already lost the title because of it will never get it back unless new chars are remade. Oh well.. Guess my new mesmer will aim for the title now.
And.. unforutnalty the reply I got back was that they we not going to reset the deaths. So.. hopefully in the future the issue with Vizunah will be solved.. but I doubt those of us who have already lost the title because of it will never get it back unless new chars are remade. Oh well.. Guess my new mesmer will aim for the title now.
Ole Man Bourbon
How are your PUG-mates enjoying your mission to acquire the title?
Such a stupid title, why waste everyone's time?
Such a stupid title, why waste everyone's time?
Damaris Arcadian
Congrats on earning the Survivor with your monk.
Ole Man.. not everyone uses PUG's when going for such a title. I'm sure many of us have realy awesome guildies. The ol' I scratch your back.. u scratch mine.
Ole Man.. not everyone uses PUG's when going for such a title. I'm sure many of us have realy awesome guildies.
The ol' I scratch your back.. u scratch mine.
Smasher/Devourer
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And just before anyone asks, yes, Dragon Arena deaths count too. It's PvP. >_>
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Kaguya
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How are your PUG-mates enjoying your mission to acquire the title?
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Slainster
Ive been henching all my missions, the pug groups I have joined have just been plain stupid! I achieved my Survivor 1 in tyria 2 nights ago on my mesmer really pleased, and Im only at sanctum cay! But i have completed every mission with bonus, and every quest available, so Im kind of on my my way to a second title too!
To answer the original question though, I had a bit of a harrowing experience the other night, I completed the bonus for sanctum cay, but hadnt "activated" the keep the Vizuh (whatever his name is) dude alive bit, when i went back to the boat, there were a bunch of white mantle hanging about, as soon as I got in range, the last bit of the mission activated, and of course the Vizuh dude was killed straight away, which also meant me and the henchies died (mission failed)... my heart stopped at that point cos I thought I had just screwed up my title, but when i got back to sanctum, my death count was still 0 *sigh of relief*, so i believe, as it has been stated over and over, deaths as a result of mission failures, or game progressions, should\do not count.
really pleased, and Im only at sanctum cay! But i have completed every mission with bonus, and every quest available, so Im kind of on my my way to a second title too! To answer the original question though, I had a bit of a harrowing experience the other night, I completed the bonus for sanctum cay, but hadnt "activated" the keep the Vizuh (whatever his name is
) dude alive bit, when i went back to the boat, there were a bunch of white mantle hanging about, as soon as I got in range, the last bit of the mission activated, and of course the Vizuh dude was killed straight away, which also meant me and the henchies died (mission failed)... my heart stopped at that point cos I thought I had just screwed up my title, but when i got back to sanctum, my death count was still 0 *sigh of relief*, so i believe, as it has been stated over and over, deaths as a result of mission failures, or game progressions, should\do not count.
shadow39365
there is a simple rule with a few exceptions of Cutscenes and NPC's getting killed, when your HP drops to 0 anywhere apart from those situatins your dead, simple as that. It really is simple to understand so lets not complicate it
ddust
For the people out there trying the VIZUNAH mission,
on Cutscene, the MINIONS are the one that will KILL you. Guranteed!!.
I have tested this before and received death count. Add the only way to survivor this, skip ASAP on the CUTSCENE like 1-2sec when cutscene start.
IF other PEOPLE dont skip, just quit the game. WHen u re-login, u will automatically goes to "DRAGON's THROAT" area instantly or the dragon throat area is available for you to continue to the next quest & mission.
Dont worry , u guys will still get the reward from the Vizunah mission.
on Cutscene, the MINIONS are the one that will KILL you. Guranteed!!.
I have tested this before and received death count. Add the only way to survivor this, skip ASAP on the CUTSCENE like 1-2sec when cutscene start.
IF other PEOPLE dont skip, just quit the game. WHen u re-login, u will automatically goes to "DRAGON's THROAT" area instantly or the dragon throat area is available for you to continue to the next quest & mission.
Dont worry , u guys will still get the reward from the Vizunah mission.