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Originally Posted by Rogmar
We don't let others in because of what we believe, we earned/grinded/farmed/whatever for access to the Deep without any outside donations (not that that's a bad thing) and so we reward those part of the alliance who contributed... On the other hand TC controls the Deep through public donations as well as their own in belief that everyone gets access (not that that's a bad thing either) Different beliefs, different rewards...
If TC wants to do it fine, but it doesn't mean everyone should expect us to...
As for the "What are you doing in the Deep?" attitude, we're trying to change that so bear with us...As with any group with certain beliefs there's always radicals
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I infact do not expect you to provide access to anyone. I affirmed before my G*d that anything that does not support the tenants of the Constitution of the United States is so abhorent as to be worth dying for. This is true whether it is in a government or a public practice (such as practiced in a game). I therefor oppose the very concept that people who purchase a product should interfere with or be interfered with by others who purchased that product. I find the core function of Faction and Favor to be elitest, self-serving, exclusionary, opposed to the idea of egalitee, and a betrayal of what my nation and its citizens ought to stand for.
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Originally Posted by achilles ankle
This cannot be made available to all players or else nothing makes any sense anymore. I mean the actual definition of the word ELITE=The best or most skilled members of a group~from www.dictionary.com
The best. this refers to the best allaince as in the allaince that has the most faction and takes over cavalon. |
How does mindless hours of faction farming, botting for gold to buy it with, or taking/purchasing donations from thousands of players make one the best? Why do people feel they are improved, or made better as persons, because they control the recreational possibilities of others who also paid for the game?
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The most skilled. If someone could start the game of factions, do all the missions, get to cavalon and just farm the deep over and over and over, that would not be fair to anyone.
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There are several ways of aproaching the term fair. Fair can mean something which looks good, and opening the missions looks good to many. Fair can mean something that is promising, and opening up the missions would be fair to many as a sign of good faith and opportunities to ct on their own capacity. Fair can mean ''having or exhibiting a disposition that is free of favoritism or bias; impartial,'' and the current system certainly is biased against casual players who have other obligations in life besides ignoring their parents assigned tasks and doing a few pages of homework. Fair may also mean being just to all parties; equitable. As no single person or small guild may ever gain access in and of their own right in competition against a 1,000 person AFF (Alianc eFaction Farm) the system for restriction is not just, equitable, or
fair to all parties. It may also indicate being in accordance with relative merit or significance. Faction is not in accord with relative merit as the dollares spent by those who have access are accorded more merit than the dollars of those purchasing the same content. It may mean something lawful to hunt or attack, meaning to do. The rules prevent me from being able to do so on my own and therefor I am not permitted to
do these missions. Fair has also meant free of obstacles, and mission access is no where near free of obstacles. (Obstacles are not near as much an issue as barriers.) So far in very important ways, the keeping of restriction is in fact
unfair.
It is consistent with the current rules, so also were other things we now decry as wrong. It maybe by fair you mean ''moderately good'' or ''acceptable.'' It is not acceptable to many, but may be rated moderately good in some venues or horendous in others. The concept is superficially appealing, without deeper analysis of what I mentioned above.
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the factions campagn can be completed in a little under 2 days of hard playing time. so getting to cavalon could be completed in less than a day. All i ask you is ~Should any person who can put in 1 days playing time be able to acess the most exclusive area in the game?
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Should any person who can put in one day playing time be able to deny access to other people with real lives, real jobs, real families, because they could not? And WTH makes exclusivity so important? Why are you so much more valuable to humanity than everyone else that puts their pants on one leg at a time? If you die today is the Sun supposed to stop rotating and the earth fall out of the solaar system?
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I completley agree with a previous post, forgive me for not knowing which one but it said sumthing along the lines of ~I have paid for my game and crystalline swords are in the game,so why cant i get one easily~ well as easily as it is to get into the deep ATM this is completly true, u paid for a game to play, not to have the most elite items/features in the game( not saying u cant get the elite items/feature, but you gotta work for them)
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This is false logic which you picked up. You will note the inclusion of the word
easily. Your source made an invalid assumption as to the nature of casual players. They are
assuming that by casual one must mean undedicated, unskilled, and lazy. Their assumption is wrong. Crystalin swords are obtainable thru HoH, SF, UW, and FoW by anyone who goes there. One does not even have to be ascended in two fo those cases. It is however a false analogy to compare access to possession of these weapons which may come from any chest in those areas for anyone who opens that chest, to Alliance, Faction, and Favor. Thru Faction a faction farming alliance may exclude fellow players from play. Based on the current system, should I purchase a home, I ought to be allowed to deny you use of your kitchen because I also purchased a home. Favor has always been wrong. If favor is correct, then let us assign an equally distant few to most of humanity to do something similar. Let's have all size 22 glass-bead manufacturing specialists play odd-man out to decide who may watch the news when the sun is setting in their time zone.
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just on a side note~ why no big hype over the kurzick elite mission?
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I have not hyped anything halfway. Let me assure you I totally and thoroughly oppose the use of Faction, Favor, and Alliances to denigrate others and deny them access to content.
Fitz
this is completly true, u paid for a game to play, not to have the most elite items/features in the game( not saying u cant get the elite items/feature, but you gotta work for them)
