Essence Armor - Able to change armor stats, looks, runes, color at will while in town
GranDeWun
The problem the OP is trying to solve sounds like it has an easier solution: just give us more storage, even it is just some form of 'wardrobe' for armor only.
Tuoba Hturt Eht
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Originally Posted by MasterDinadan
I could change my Enchanter's Attire into Rogue's Attire to get more armor without having to buy new runes for it...
The demand for runes go down and the economy changes... |
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| the fact that I have to buy more armor to accomodate different runes is a money sink, another important aspect of the economy. |
Players would actually be seeking out to absorb the essences of all the armors available in Tyria and Cantha.
Plus, in order for a character to absorb new armors, runes into his or hers Essence Armor, a reasonable amount of gold plus rare materials is required. More gold sink there.
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| If I can just get all the superior runes into my armor piece and then pick which one I want to use depending on the build, I don't have to buy a new armor piece to go with every one of my runes... |
With the implementation of the Essence Armor, I can buy all minor, major, superior of runes of each attribute for each 5 pieces of my armor. With that done, I can then achieve total freedom of armor runes customization.
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| We already have easily customizable armor for PVP, where you can get any set of stats to go with any rune you have earned. Your idea would pretty much turn RP into the same thing, where you just unlock new properties for your armor like earn runes for PVP armor... |
Actually PvP armor is inferior to PvE armor, PvP characters have to re-roll everytime they needed to change into a new set of armor.
ANET gave us total freedom of builds customization when they removed the refund points system.
Once they implement this "Essence Armor" concept, true freedom of armor stats and runes customization would be achived.
Plus, I believe the implementation of such an "Essence Armor" would truly make Guild Wars stand out from the other games out there.
How many other games out there have Armors that will morph into any shape or armor stats that you desire?
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Originally Posted by GranDeWun
The problem the OP is trying to solve sounds like it has an easier solution: just give us more storage, even it is just some form of 'wardrobe' for armor only.
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It will make Guild Wars the first game to have unique armors that can change its appearance, armor stats into whatever the player desired.
Thank you for all your comments.
Your feedback is invaluable and is much appreciated.
Keep those feedback comin'
Feedback in anyform, is much appreciated.
Cheers.
Tien ak
Just wondered if you could come up with some kind of story or Lore behind the armor 
Tongloid Tarthwood
This might not work in a situation I can think of:
You go to Random arenas with Ultimate Armour. You're set on Elementalist defeating armour. Out come 4 warriors. You instantly change to physical defense armour using morph. Suddenly, you aren't taking any damage because of your overpowered armour.
If you can think of an answer to that, I'm buying your armour.
You go to Random arenas with Ultimate Armour. You're set on Elementalist defeating armour. Out come 4 warriors. You instantly change to physical defense armour using morph. Suddenly, you aren't taking any damage because of your overpowered armour.
If you can think of an answer to that, I'm buying your armour.
mega_jamie
as godess of illusion, this would ebst fit in Lyssas domain, nice idea, but it provides practiaclly unlimited storage space for armours, so yeah, i have 15K Tormentors and some tats for 55ing on my necro, and i could throw these into that morph armour and switch easily between them is a nice idea, but the armour would need it to be even more expensive than obsidian to work.
But how many armours cna you havem theres only so much need for them?
But how many armours cna you havem theres only so much need for them?
Tuoba Hturt Eht
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Originally Posted by Tien ak
Just wondered if you could come up with some kind of story or Lore behind the armor
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It ain't gonna be that hard.
Chapter 1:
We got a "Forgotten Seer" that "Infuses" our Armor with the Essence of a big floating squid so the Mursaats can't kick our arses as fast as they used to kick before we "Infused" our Armor, but the Mursaats still can kick our arses good enough though.
Chapter 2:
We got 4 Ghostly "Envoys" that brings you back to life after you gotten your arse kicked real bad by Shiro Tagachi.
Trying to come up with a story for this new "Essence Armor" ain't gonna be that hard, aye.
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Originally Posted by Tongloid Tarthwood
This might not work in a situation I can think of:
You go to Random arenas with Ultimate Armour. You're set on Elementalist defeating armour. Out come 4 warriors. You instantly change to physical defense armour using morph. Suddenly, you aren't taking any damage because of your overpowered armour. If you can think of an answer to that, I'm buying your armour. |
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Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt Eht
Questions & Answers:
1. What is this Essence Armour? Its an Armour set that is capable of changing its runes, appearance, armour stats into other armours sets when the character wearing the armour is in Towns or Outposts. |
Problem resolved, would you like to purchase and use this Armor if ANET implemented such an idea?
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Originally Posted by mega_jamie
the armour would need it to be even more expensive than obsidian to work.
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People do not like outrageous prices.
Making the crafting cost at 15k plus a reasonable amount of materials per armor piece would make this armor available to a lot of people.
Remember, it is just a "Starting Kit" for you to start your journey to craft and absorb all the armors in Tyria, Cantha as well as the armors available in all future chapters of Guild Wars.
In my opinion, "Starting Kits" should not have outrageous prices.
If folks wanted Obsidian armor appearance, they would still have to fork out the insane amount of Globs of Ectoplasm and Obsidian Shards for it.
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This will give PvE players something to do after they have done everything they can do in Guild Wars.
Thank you for all your comments.
Your feedback is invaluable and is much appreciated.
Keep 'em feedback comin!
Feedback, in any form, is much appreciated.
Cheers!
Tuoba Hturt Eht
More than 24 hours has passed and this thread has already been buried in the 3rd page. I am bumping this topic in hopes of that it will be read by more members of this community.
I believe the implementation of this "Essence Armor" will further make Guild Wars an even more unique game.
Feedback, in any form, be it positive or negative, is much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
I believe the implementation of this "Essence Armor" will further make Guild Wars an even more unique game.
Feedback, in any form, be it positive or negative, is much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
Tuoba Hturt Eht
Thread revival, because 3 days have passed and this thread has not received any feedback from the public.
Feedback, in any form, be it positive or negative, is much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
Feedback, in any form, be it positive or negative, is much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
Pevil Lihatuh
I love this idea.
If you don't want to grind for the money to buy every single armour just to get this one complete, then don't, you can still use 'normal' armour.
For people who farm a lot and can afford it, it's a great idea. A good player is going to have more than one set of armour anyway (I don't, I'm not wasting the storage
) with different runes etc, so where is the problem?
To even have the full freedom, you'd have to buy at this time: Tyrian, Krytan, Canthan (and 15k), Imperial (and 15k), Kurzick (and 15k), Luxon (and 15k), Exotic (and 15k), FoW 15k, Grotto 15k, Marhans 15k, Seitung and Shing Jea armours. That's a lot of time and money. Not only that, but you'd have to get all the different stats (which of course could be done at the same time, e.g. Platemail Tyrian, Gladiator Krytan...). By the time you've done this, you then need to buy all the runes (e.g. for Warrior 6 minor, 6 major, 6 superior including vigors and absorbs).
By this time, the player has spent well over the 1mil i'd say, and I dread to think how much time has been spent. Someone who puts that much effort in surely deserves to change their 'clothing' look when they want? And they already bought the armour... its no different to them owning all the armours, they just don't have to store them all.
Also weapons weren't mentioned so people don't have to use the argument about rare skins. As far as armour goes, there are no rare skins.
If you don't want to grind for the money to buy every single armour just to get this one complete, then don't, you can still use 'normal' armour.
For people who farm a lot and can afford it, it's a great idea. A good player is going to have more than one set of armour anyway (I don't, I'm not wasting the storage
) with different runes etc, so where is the problem? To even have the full freedom, you'd have to buy at this time: Tyrian, Krytan, Canthan (and 15k), Imperial (and 15k), Kurzick (and 15k), Luxon (and 15k), Exotic (and 15k), FoW 15k, Grotto 15k, Marhans 15k, Seitung and Shing Jea armours. That's a lot of time and money. Not only that, but you'd have to get all the different stats (which of course could be done at the same time, e.g. Platemail Tyrian, Gladiator Krytan...). By the time you've done this, you then need to buy all the runes (e.g. for Warrior 6 minor, 6 major, 6 superior including vigors and absorbs).
By this time, the player has spent well over the 1mil i'd say, and I dread to think how much time has been spent. Someone who puts that much effort in surely deserves to change their 'clothing' look when they want? And they already bought the armour... its no different to them owning all the armours, they just don't have to store them all.
Also weapons weren't mentioned so people don't have to use the argument about rare skins. As far as armour goes, there are no rare skins.
sinisters chaos
once again this is a great idea
people say that you are overdoing it, but having every set of armor in set, and be able to cahnge them in any town /outpost is better than having to run to storage, its also another goal for PvE players .
people say that you are overdoing it, but having every set of armor in set, and be able to cahnge them in any town /outpost is better than having to run to storage, its also another goal for PvE players .
Beat_Go_Stick
I like the idea.
I don't think crafting the armor should be excessively expensive though. just make it 1.5k plain (white) armor with a rather dull default skin and let aquiring the 15k/FoW armor still be the challenge. That way you don't have to be incredibly wealthy to get the functionality of it.
Making it so expensive would be a bad idea if it's something that actually has such great functionality.
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I don't think crafting the armor should be excessively expensive though. just make it 1.5k plain (white) armor with a rather dull default skin and let aquiring the 15k/FoW armor still be the challenge. That way you don't have to be incredibly wealthy to get the functionality of it.
Making it so expensive would be a bad idea if it's something that actually has such great functionality.
/signed
Tuoba Hturt Eht
Thank you for your replies.
Your feedback regarding this idea is invaluable and is much appreciated.
If you like this idea and would like to see ANET implement something like this, please do state so, as ANET would only implement ideas if there is a huge demand for it.
As Beat_Go_Stick mentioned, perhaps a 1.5k and a 15k version would be nice.
Regarding colour dyes, since dyes can only be mixed 3 times, i.e: 4 colors mixed together. Perhaps a suitable method for it to work would be like this?
Colour morphing:
1. Each Armor piece can store 4 copies of each colour
2. Once an essence armor piece have stored 4 copies of each colour
3. That armor piece is able to morph its colour based on any 4 colour combination
Blue, Green, Purple, Red
Yellow, Orange, Silver, Black
An essence armor piece will need to have 4 copies of each of the 8 colours "absorbed" before it can achieve total freedom of colour mixing.
Of course, a reasonable amount of gold plus rare materials will be charged for each colour "absorbed".
Feedback, in any form, be it negative or positive, is much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
Your feedback regarding this idea is invaluable and is much appreciated.
If you like this idea and would like to see ANET implement something like this, please do state so, as ANET would only implement ideas if there is a huge demand for it.
As Beat_Go_Stick mentioned, perhaps a 1.5k and a 15k version would be nice.
Regarding colour dyes, since dyes can only be mixed 3 times, i.e: 4 colors mixed together. Perhaps a suitable method for it to work would be like this?
Colour morphing:
1. Each Armor piece can store 4 copies of each colour
2. Once an essence armor piece have stored 4 copies of each colour
3. That armor piece is able to morph its colour based on any 4 colour combination
Blue, Green, Purple, Red
Yellow, Orange, Silver, Black
An essence armor piece will need to have 4 copies of each of the 8 colours "absorbed" before it can achieve total freedom of colour mixing.
Of course, a reasonable amount of gold plus rare materials will be charged for each colour "absorbed".
Feedback, in any form, be it negative or positive, is much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
Fog Accomplice
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Awesome idea.
Awesome idea.
Sk8tborderx
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I would love to have this armor so i could easily change from running to solo to party builds with different rune setups and armor combos for every situation. Armor takes up most of my inventory space and my storage is full.
I would love to have this armor so i could easily change from running to solo to party builds with different rune setups and armor combos for every situation. Armor takes up most of my inventory space and my storage is full.
Tuoba Hturt Eht
Added recent 2 votes to the poll.
Added colour changing function.
Thank you for the feedback.
Feedback, in any form, be it negative or positive, is much appreciated.
Added colour changing function.
Thank you for the feedback.
Feedback, in any form, be it negative or positive, is much appreciated.
Stockholm
/signed
1.5k Plain brown armor no stats on it and availble in Droks and Keinang
1.5k Plain brown armor no stats on it and availble in Droks and Keinang
Adamant
just wondering, if you were wanting to add, say, ascalon armor looks to your essence armor, couldn't you just go buy some in ascalon, why buy expensive armor to add when you can buy the cheap stuff?
either way: /signed
needs a few tweaks, but could be very helpful
either way: /signed
needs a few tweaks, but could be very helpful
Replicant
/signed
Cybah
/signed
I want to change my fow armor stats
I want to change my fow armor stats
Tuoba Hturt Eht
Updated original post to include the recent votes.
Slight edited the contents.
Thank you all for the feedback! Cheers!
It was suggested earlier that a 1.5K version be made available as well, and it was suggested that the 1.5K version be placed in major cities such as Droknar's Forge and Kaineng Center.
I was thinking, perhaps the 15K version could be placed in a gods realm? Lyssa's realm was suggested, and I think it is a good suggestion.
The difference between the 1.5K and 15K variants could be appearance, and limited functionality, like say the 1.5K version can only absorb 1.5K armor sets, while the 15K version can absorb both 15K armor sets as well as 1.5k armor sets.
Do you mean that buying and crafting the non-max Armor Level from Ascalon City and then letting the Essence Armor absorb it?
Well, to fix this issue, it could be made such that only Max Armor Level Armor sets can be absorbed into the Essence Armor.
Hmm, anyway I suppose there isn't any harm in letting people absorb "cheap armor sets" into their Essence Armor eh?
Possible scenario:
1. John buys and crafts 1.5k Essence Armor
2. John wanted "Ascalon appearance"
3. John goes to Ascalon City and crafts Ascalon Armor
Aye, mate. If you got any idea about which part needs to be tweak, do share with us ya? Together we will strive to make Guild Wars a better game.
Feedback in any form, is much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
Slight edited the contents.
Thank you all for the feedback! Cheers!
It was suggested earlier that a 1.5K version be made available as well, and it was suggested that the 1.5K version be placed in major cities such as Droknar's Forge and Kaineng Center.
I was thinking, perhaps the 15K version could be placed in a gods realm? Lyssa's realm was suggested, and I think it is a good suggestion.
The difference between the 1.5K and 15K variants could be appearance, and limited functionality, like say the 1.5K version can only absorb 1.5K armor sets, while the 15K version can absorb both 15K armor sets as well as 1.5k armor sets.
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just wondering, if you were wanting to add, say, ascalon armor looks to your essence armor, couldn't you just go buy some in ascalon, why buy expensive armor to add when you can buy the cheap stuff?
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Well, to fix this issue, it could be made such that only Max Armor Level Armor sets can be absorbed into the Essence Armor.
Hmm, anyway I suppose there isn't any harm in letting people absorb "cheap armor sets" into their Essence Armor eh?
Possible scenario:
1. John buys and crafts 1.5k Essence Armor
2. John wanted "Ascalon appearance"
3. John goes to Ascalon City and crafts Ascalon Armor
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Feedback in any form, is much appreciated.
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
Lint
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Tuoba Hturt Eht
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Tuoba Hturt Eht
Nothing much to update in the first post, but I feel obliged to bump this topic back to the first page of Sardelac. As usual, I am always seeking for more feedback from the public.
I realise this feature could probably be very difficulty to implement, and I not not asking ANET to implement it right away, perhaps sometime in the future, like say Chapter 5, 6 or even 7.
As long as there is a chance for ANET to implement a similiar feature as proposed in this topic, I will continue to work on this topic until ANET stated that they will never work on this "Essence Armor".
Anyway, to all those who would reply on this topic in the future, if you /signed or /not signed or /anti-signed, or voted Yes, or No. Perhaps you could write a few lines of text to let us know why? Thank you.
Feedback, in any form, be it negative or positive, is much appreciated. '
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
I realise this feature could probably be very difficulty to implement, and I not not asking ANET to implement it right away, perhaps sometime in the future, like say Chapter 5, 6 or even 7.
As long as there is a chance for ANET to implement a similiar feature as proposed in this topic, I will continue to work on this topic until ANET stated that they will never work on this "Essence Armor".
Anyway, to all those who would reply on this topic in the future, if you /signed or /not signed or /anti-signed, or voted Yes, or No. Perhaps you could write a few lines of text to let us know why? Thank you.
Feedback, in any form, be it negative or positive, is much appreciated. '
Thank you for your time.
Cheers.
NinjaKai
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This armor seems excessive and a little ridiculous in my opinion. And please don't try telling me other wise. I could never change my mind on such a concept as this.
This armor seems excessive and a little ridiculous in my opinion. And please don't try telling me other wise. I could never change my mind on such a concept as this.
Tuoba Hturt Eht
Thank you for sharing your opinions with us.
Perhaps you could elaborate more on the term "excessive"?
How so? Please elaborate more in detail if possible?
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This armor seems excessive
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SziP
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Its not realistic, i like it the way it is.
Its not realistic, i like it the way it is.
M C H A M M E R
I love the idea....Not overpowered in any way, and you have to buy another set of armor/runes for it to morph
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Sphinx2k
/not-signed
i'd rather see anet work on other ways of improveing your storage then add some sort of magical morphing armour like say making it so that the bags u carry r able to be stored well items r inside of them instead of how it is now u can only store them if they r empty.
i'd rather see anet work on other ways of improveing your storage then add some sort of magical morphing armour like say making it so that the bags u carry r able to be stored well items r inside of them instead of how it is now u can only store them if they r empty.
Tuoba Hturt Eht
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Its not realistic
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2. If Guild Wars is truly "realistic", then Monks would die from a single chop from an axe from a Warrior
Priest Of Sin
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Allow me to elaborate, I had to go before I could finish my post (the bell rang). Alright: What would be the point of crafting a Lyssa's domain style of this armor if there was a 1.5k/15k version? Unless it was made so that 1.5k version could ONLY absorb colors that were primary (no black/mixed), the 15k verison could absorb every color and every 15k armor, and the Lyssa's Domain version was the only version that could absorb FoW armor (or the equivilent of FoW). So the chart would be as follows:
1.5k Version:
Absorbs all 1.5k armor, all primary colors, all minor/major runes.
15k Version:
Absorbs all 15k armor, 1.5k armor, all colors, all runes.
Lyssa's Version:
Absorbs all armor (FoW, 15k, 1.5k), all colors, all runes.
If it was a system set up like that, then I'd support it.
Allow me to elaborate, I had to go before I could finish my post (the bell rang). Alright: What would be the point of crafting a Lyssa's domain style of this armor if there was a 1.5k/15k version? Unless it was made so that 1.5k version could ONLY absorb colors that were primary (no black/mixed), the 15k verison could absorb every color and every 15k armor, and the Lyssa's Domain version was the only version that could absorb FoW armor (or the equivilent of FoW). So the chart would be as follows:
1.5k Version:
Absorbs all 1.5k armor, all primary colors, all minor/major runes.
15k Version:
Absorbs all 15k armor, 1.5k armor, all colors, all runes.
Lyssa's Version:
Absorbs all armor (FoW, 15k, 1.5k), all colors, all runes.
If it was a system set up like that, then I'd support it.
Tuoba Hturt Eht
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It would totally destroy the whole armor heirarchy we have going on right now.
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Priest Of Sin
Also, the armor should look like starter armor to begin with, except with the Lyssa's. Then it should look like really, really, REALLY fancy starter armor.
(vote changed to /sign, BTW)
(vote changed to /sign, BTW)
Tuoba Hturt Eht
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Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin
Alright: What would be the point of crafting a Lyssa's domain style of this armor if there was a 1.5k/15k version? Unless it was made so that 1.5k version could ONLY absorb colors that were primary (no black/mixed), the 15k verison could absorb every color and every 15k armor, and the Lyssa's Domain version was the only version that could absorb FoW armor (or the equivilent of FoW). So the chart would be as follows:
1.5k Version: Absorbs all 1.5k armor, all primary colors, all minor/major runes. 15k Version: Absorbs all 15k armor, 1.5k armor, all colors, all runes. Lyssa's Version: Absorbs all armor (FoW, 15k, 1.5k), all colors, all runes. |
Tuoba Hturt Eht
Thread revival as I want this idea to be exposed to more people.
Feedback, is always welcomed.
When I mean "feedback", it does not mean a single line of text saying:
"/not signed"
At least write a few more lines of text stating why you do not want this idea to be implemented.
Thank you.
Feedback, is always welcomed.
When I mean "feedback", it does not mean a single line of text saying:
"/not signed"
At least write a few more lines of text stating why you do not want this idea to be implemented.
Thank you.
TadaceAce
people obsessing over looks are stupid, I like how people pay 50k for a zodiak weapon with 15%>50 when they can make a weapon with the same stats for 6k at weapon guy, or get it from a collector for damn near nothing.
Tuoba Hturt Eht
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people obsessing over looks are stupid
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Anyway, if the armor set is nice and I can afford it, and I really like the design of the armor, I would craft it for my characters.
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) to the merchant and crafted new Canthan weapons for my Warrior. However, I think the "Melon Hammer" is just plain ugly.
Droknar's craftable Forge War Hammer ftw!
Priest Of Sin
Cleaver FTL.... the skin makes it seem like a huge weapon, but when you actually get it on your character, it's like "WTF? Am I holding a stick or an axe?"
Tuoba Hturt Eht
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Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin
Cleaver FTL.... the skin makes it seem like a huge weapon, but when you actually get it on your character, it's like "WTF? Am I holding a stick or an axe?"
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Anyway, I think I ran out of ideas for this concept armor.
Are they anyone else who wish to contribute?
Of course, anyone who disagrees with this new concept armor set is welcome to "argue" with me in this thread, but let's keep it civil, aye?
Cheers.
Tuoba Hturt Eht
The Good:
1. Save inventory space
2. Make Guild Wars a more unique game, the first game to have an Armor that can change its stats and looks at will
3. A goal for PvEers to achieve
The Bad:
1. Could be difficult for ANET to implement this
The Ugly:
1. Possible to be extremely time consuming and difficult for ANET to code this new function into Guild Wars
2. The current Guild Wars engine might not be able to support this new concept
1. Save inventory space
2. Make Guild Wars a more unique game, the first game to have an Armor that can change its stats and looks at will
3. A goal for PvEers to achieve
The Bad:
1. Could be difficult for ANET to implement this
The Ugly:
1. Possible to be extremely time consuming and difficult for ANET to code this new function into Guild Wars
2. The current Guild Wars engine might not be able to support this new concept
wsmcasey
Yes, I know we're in the same Guild. Thats besides the point here. This is actually a very good idea!. saves time and storage space. I'm all for customization. Making this option hard to get, like in fow or uw would make it a fun challenge, or maybe somewhere in cantha?
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