I'm not doing so good.

SpankyBear12

SpankyBear12

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

The built for my character with FoW armor got nerfed. He's now useless. I tried out the new professions and they aren't very good. I got Factions, and I need help enjoying it. When you buy a new game, you shouldn't feel like crap. I feel like crap. Please help me enjoy Guild Wars again. I have no money or anything and I need a fresh start, but I don't know what kind of character to make. I wanted to be a Ritualist, because they look cool, but they suck. All the Guild Wars fansites don't have any new builds or maps and I'm VERY frustrated right now. I'm not good at Guild Wars, but when people help me create a cool character and stuff, I like to play it. I feel like I got screwed over when this game came out, and I shouldn't have bought it, or atleast, I shouldn't have linked it to my old account, because I have to look at my nerfed FoW character everytime I log in. You have no idea how bad this feels.

I ask one thing. How do I enjoy Guild Wars?

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

you can't make a good character from the beginning of the game, there wouldn't be a challenge if you could just take any skill in the game and put on your bar

thrice

thrice

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Grotto

No guild

Mo/Me

What profession is the character you have your FoW armor on?

SpankyBear12

SpankyBear12

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Level 20 W/Mo and use Ascalon Helm, and the rest Gladiator.

thrice

thrice

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Grotto

No guild

Mo/Me

What build did you use that was nerfed?

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

And how exactly is your character "nerfed"?

It sounds to me like someone needs to open their mind and try new things.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

How about trying a new build?

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

i assume his warrior can't solo the factions misisons like the prohecies ones...
cause they're ya know.. harder..

SpankyBear12

SpankyBear12

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

I was talking to my friend, who had the same stuff as me, and he said that some of the skills were changed and that for it to work effectively now, you'd need Ascalon boots and guantlets, and a different elite skill, which I don't have. All my hard work was chucked out the window. What would be the best way to get money from FoW armor? I don't have any good runes on it. Just minors.

-Byron-

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

CA

None

P/W

No warrior is useless no matter how many nerfs there are. It sounds to me like you need to open your eyes, get a new build and play the game without maps and such. Factions is much more linear than Prophecies anyway.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
...you'd need Ascalon boots and guantlets, and a different elite skill, which I don't have.
....No build is armor specific....what the....and as for a new elite skill...I know this must be really hard to stomach, but my foresight tells me you'll need to capture a new one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
What would be the best way to get money from FoW armor? I don't have any good runes on it. Just minors.
Buddy, are you feeling ok?

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

No need to think about throwing away your Fissure armor. Simply get a more reasonably priced set if you need it that badly. Also, if you think all your "hard work is chucked out the window" because you need a new build, go out and capture that elite you need and experiment. Relying on others' information can come back to bite you anyway, try to learn the ropes yourself.

Cookie Monster

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Guild in Pyjamas

W/

'nuff said. I don't think you have a reason to complain, most classes have been nerfed a lot more than warrior.

Edit by Swehurn - reference to deleted post removed.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
The built for my character with FoW armor got nerfed. He's now useless.
So, you can afford FoW armour, and yet you can't afford 8 new skills? I find that somewhat... !

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
I tried out the new professions and they aren't very good. ... I wanted to be a Ritualist, because they look cool, but they suck.
And two weeks has been enough time for you to prove this beyond any doubt? I don't think so. A friend of mine told me (repeatedly!) last June that IWAY was an awesome skill. And the metagame picked up on it in a big way, what, six months later?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
All the Guild Wars fansites don't have any new builds or maps and I'm VERY frustrated right now. I'm not good at Guild Wars
Whoah, stop there. How did you ever get FoW armour (if you didn't Ebay it...) without at least a good sense of timing, execution, etc?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
, but when people help me create a cool character and stuff, I like to play it. I feel like I got screwed over when this game came out, and I shouldn't have bought it, or atleast, I shouldn't have linked it to my old account, because I have to look at my nerfed FoW character everytime I log in. You have no idea how bad this feels. I ask one thing. How do I enjoy Guild Wars?
Make a new character in Factions. And take your time. Read all the tablets of wisdom. Take all the tutorial quests. Figure stuff out. If that doesn't help you get on your feet, I guess Guild Wars isn't the game for you.

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookie Monster
'nuff said. I don't think you have a reason to complain, most classes have been nerfed a lot more than warrior.
Agreed. It's likely more beneficial to get out there and play than complaining on here. There's nothing wrong with experimenting with different skills and attribute setups yourself, that is one thing I love doing.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
I was talking to my friend, who had the same stuff as me, and he said that some of the skills were changed and that for it to work effectively now, you'd need Ascalon boots and guantlets, and a different elite skill, which I don't have. All my hard work was chucked out the window. What would be the best way to get money from FoW armor? I don't have any good runes on it. Just minors.
Then get the new elite skill and play it. No build in pve REQUIRES any specific type of armor set. They dont give you that much of an advantage to make a big difference. A certain set may be helpful but not required. Guild wars is about skill not equipment stats. You can still do it if you try.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

i wouldnt want to ask how you got that FOW armor .

anyway, ya, why dont u simply pick whatever skills u can get from quests, decide which ones work nice for u for general use (say, missions in teams or so), and play abit like that? ud start to get how stuff works, and soon u could start creating ur own builds and having fun.

u could always ask people for help too, should u get stuck with something

nitetime

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

eotn

W/

Whoa, a different elite skill that you dont have??? well how about you go cap it. Better yet, just uninstall.

Sidra

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

R/

I beleive I just got a hernia... I shouldn't roll on the floor so much. How did you afford FoW, let alone make it through the game, with that attitude? Do you seriously think that there is only 1 usefull build? What kind of warrior do you have to be to get so solo-minded about your stuff that you become a vegetable once it is "nerfed"? I'd just like to know.


BTW- characters are coolest when created on your own. It's a proven fact. Use your imagination :-D.

Solberg the Exiled

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Xen of Onslaught

N/

Wow....I just don't know what to say to that. I don't know what kind of build you had before but there are probably hundred's of different build out there especially warrior ones.

Plus, we don't even know what you're talking about. We might actually be able to help you more if you post your build.

Pillz_veritas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fun Loving Gamers

R/Mo

It is possible to expert Salvage your FoW armor for the ecto, put it has the same odds of salvaging as all of the other materials in there, and it is only around 1/4th of the ecto you put in. I recomend salvaging your FoW armor because you obviously dont deserve it if you are so stubern you throw away a character because one build is nerfed.

oscarmac

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

You know what? The OP is entirely right. What you need to do is uninstall GW and throw away the CD key. Please!

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Are you saying that in your time of playing GW all you played was your W/Mo? The same build with the same Elite? I don't recall any warrior skills being nerfed lately - in fact some were improved at the last skill balance. If it makes you 'feel crap' - give up. Take a step back and realise that its only a game. If that was my worst problem I'd be grateful.

Cash

Cash

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Bound By Wild Desire [Wild]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
The built for my character with FoW armor got nerfed. He's now useless. I tried out the new professions and they aren't very good. I got Factions, and I need help enjoying it. When you buy a new game, you shouldn't feel like crap. I feel like crap. Please help me enjoy Guild Wars again. I have no money or anything and I need a fresh start, but I don't know what kind of character to make. I wanted to be a Ritualist, because they look cool, but they suck. All the Guild Wars fansites don't have any new builds or maps and I'm VERY frustrated right now. I'm not good at Guild Wars, but when people help me create a cool character and stuff, I like to play it. I feel like I got screwed over when this game came out, and I shouldn't have bought it, or atleast, I shouldn't have linked it to my old account, because I have to look at my nerfed FoW character everytime I log in. You have no idea how bad this feels.

I ask one thing. How do I enjoy Guild Wars?
i think it mostly comes down to your style of play in GW. i dont have factions yet, so i cant give you advice about a rit or sin, but i can possibly give you some on the original 6 classes. when playing the different classes, you have to act and think differently for certain ones. i personally prefer to play alone. most times its late at night so there are fewer people on, and i dont have good luck with PUGs anyway (i HATE leavers). that said, alone, i can take my warrior or ranger and solo pretty much anything with henchies. on the monk or mesmer, i find it a lot harder because you have learn to play a different role, totally avoid aggro, and take things slower. necros and eles fit somewhere in the middle to me (depending on the build you use).

having a warrior thats already built up is a great start. the warrior is probably the easiest character in GW to learn to play, and i think theyre the most versatile. they can run, they can tank, they can deal consistantly high damage, and theyre tough as nails in PvE so you can get away with more mistakes with them. as far as armor goes, glads armor with knights boots combo with the corresponding weapon helm is still the best out there. until someone proves different, thats what ill always use. as far as the warrior getting nerfed- like someone said already, no nerf can truly stop a warrior because of their versatility. if a certain area you play or skill that you use got changed, there are PLENTY of other options for you.

its natural to hit road-blocks in game every now and then, and you sound like youre kind of in a rut right now. but take the warrior out, buy some new skills and try out different things. you dont need a lot of money for that either. head over to the "campfire" section here and practice troll farming and by the time you have a few skillpoints to spend, youll have the money to buy em by selling the drops. im on a mission to cap every elite in prophesies with my warrior now, so i can personally vouch for that.

all that said, dont be contrained by JUST playing the warrior. thats the beauty of GW to me - you can play it many different ways with many different classes. start a ritualist. im sure they dont suck, but from what ive read about them, my guess is that theyre a class that shines when youve got other real people around you and not dumbass thom, alicia the tank, and orions not-so-better late than never firestorm. just realize that with new characters, YOU have to adapt and learn to play in new ways.

anyway, best of luck to you. hope this helps a bit.

Unchain

Unchain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Montana

Soldiers That Fall Up

N/

I think my brain is telling me that you eBay this armor and got one build and decided to own some n00bs. First off, learn new builds, make new builds. There is more then one build out there.

Riotact

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

Elite Renegades

W/Mo

Dude, im a W/mo & am loving factions. You cant expect to keep the exact same skill set. try a couple of new skills. Dont read so much into it and just play the game for the reason u bought it: FUN.

bam23

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

I think the "build" he is talking about is the item-aggro fix.

salaboB

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
I was talking to my friend, who had the same stuff as me, and he said that some of the skills were changed and that for it to work effectively now, you'd need Ascalon boots and guantlets, and a different elite skill, which I don't have.
Tell your friend he's wrong, because you like the +energy from the gauntlets and boots you already have and they're just as good as the ascalon ones.

Feet and hands are hit the least often of the body parts, and ascalon armor no longer applies its benefits globally. Scrapping a character because you have 2 more energy in exchange for a couple reduced damage on the two least hit parts of your armor would be ridiculously silly.

As for the elite, you can always simply go capture it. But your friend doesn't sound like he knows a great deal about how GW really works, so I'd be cautious about just accepting his advice as the final say.

Legeon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

This my friends is why I don't like playing with W/Mo...

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Ohh the stance tank, or as I like to refer to it, the waste of a party slot.

HOMIE_G64

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Recruit Meh!

W/E

Um seeing how upset you are, I'm thinking you made a super-tank somehow that allowed you the mass farm moneh. Seeing how you don't know that you can't sell armor and seeing how you say you don't have any Major runes but only minor runes on it tells us you = noob and noob with awsome stuff = eBayer. I'm sorry if your not an eBayer or if you got the stuff fair + square but seriously...

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Erm... why use Major runes? Just why? If i'm gonna sacrifice health to use a rune i might aswell go the whole hog. The only possible reason i can see for Majors is that you can't afford the Superior (in the case of monk runes definatly).

gemstone

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

i dunno what to say..

use your head.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

SpankyBear12

I'm going to be kinder then some of the posters here. You sound to me like you may be young, which is not a bad thing.

That being said a fully decked out warrior in nice armor and (i'm assuming) weapons can be very versitile. You have the whole game in front of you to explore. Let's cover some basic things.

Death is not terrible in this game, outside of having to re-enter a place like FoW which costs money. One trip to town and you're back to normal. This lets you test all sorts of builds for different things, lets you find skills you enjoy using.

If you were a stance tank then there are still places you can tank, however you won't be able to hold aggro by holding an item and really that was easy mode for parties. You can still have some stances and dish out damage.

Check out the Warrior forum for a variety of builds for doing different things. You can go farm ettins for some money if you wish, or sand wurms or even jade scarabs (icky mobs) with the right build and in the warrior forums they have talked about alot of different builds and can give you feedback on what you are trying to do.

So if you enjoy playing the game in general then just forget the old rut you were stuck in and try some of the new things that have been posted and go have fun in different areas.

On a side note...Ascalon/Knights minus to damage is still global as has been tested by reliable people like Ensign. The new bonus' in are not global but the Knights reduction stays global, even on factions armor.

Hope that helps.

Omni Spirit

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Byron-
Factions is much more linear than Prophecies anyway.
Thats putting it mildly. Faction is definitely one of the most linear game I've played in a while.

Iskrah

Iskrah

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

SsS

R/

And Prophecies was already really linear.

Anyway, that original post must be a joke.

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cjlr
Whoah, stop there. How did you ever get FoW armour (if you didn't Ebay it...) without at least a good sense of timing, execution, etc?
ya i total agree. and what build were u playing (or did i miss what he said)

things i do after 55 my self to bordem and die 100 times as an assassin i pick up my warrior and do chest runs... clear out Grenth's Footprint .... hydras .... griffens and the fun-est (imo) ids runs

-Byron-

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

CA

None

P/W

I don't really know what to tell you other than play the game. Unless there is a specific problem you have and are willing to say it, its useless.

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SpankyBear12
I was talking to my friend, who had the same stuff as me, and he said that some of the skills were changed and that for it to work effectively now, you'd need Ascalon boots and guantlets, and a different elite skill, which I don't have. All my hard work was chucked out the window. What would be the best way to get money from FoW armor? I don't have any good runes on it. Just minors.

Wow... honestly... take henchies around and kill stuff and raise some money so you can afford a capture signet. Then find where you can get your new elite skill.
Then go farm, like you're obviously borderline suicidal about not being able to do anymore, and be like every other 13-year-old with no time on their hands.

Christ.
I had outfitted two characters in 15k and got my farming build nerfed, leaving me with the little I had thought I could build from by casually farming some more. I got hit by ANet's nerf bat as well, but do you see me starting sympathy threads asking for donations like I'm some lesser developped country starving and suffering from AIDS?
No. So why should you?
Get over it. Move on. You're not going to get any "oh that sucks, here's my life savings" from here.



And by the way, Factions missions are harder - you can't solo them. Don't whine to us about that because there's nothing we can/will do about it.

Johno77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

England

Apocalyptica UK

N/Me

I have lost faith in humanity. Forever.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

hahahahahaha, funniest Ebayer post I've ever read... More please!