Vizunah Square..the worst thing in a VG ever ?!!

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Is this Mission a joke?

i've reached the place the very first day of Factions release.. and i'm still in there !!!

i wont mention the stupid pug / lag / dl etc probs, u all saw a ton of thread about that ...

the last update is supposed to fix this... NOT !!

3 tries this morning, the same crap keeps happening, Menhlo and Togo dont follow u after the 2nd fight... this is my 23th tries at this, t dont get it and it's really pissin me off, it's already a mess to complete something i dont wanna wonder IF the NPC ll be buggy or not

their are ppl that should be ashamed of their programming work, i tell u that

so here's the thing again .. how do u get em to follow ya ???

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

hm....i managed it first time, but i had a full henchie setup
(except that there was one realside player that wasnt in my party, never said a word to me, wasnt showing up im my friendlies list and wanted to just skip it at the cutscene)

unless i got the wrong mission....well, im there now (its quieter to check for my pet there than in the main squares lol, takes less time to load)
so ill give it a go, assuming its the same quest were taking about

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

they should be following you. here's a tip. Bring 2 monks and a VERY EXPERIENCED Orders necro with wells. becuase the wells was basically healing everyone and the monks didnt have to do much. monks should bring Healing Hands. The other monk, Mark of Protection. Bring Reversal of Fortune too

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

i tried it.. full henchies or full human ppl.. doesnt change a thing

@Riken: even with a good human team full of monks, MM and stuff.. this keeps happening everytime

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

well, hon, im there now, again , assuming i have the girth quest part (im notorious for getting them fudged up lol)

im in Int1 of the forign quater, and its just me lol and the henchies ^^ its fabulously quiet heheeh

Nominal_Fee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

I have heard that it's hard but I have done it with 2 characters and I still have to fail it for the first time. On the second time, the other team was all hench and we didn't have a single death in our team. Wait till you get to Boreas Seabed- now this is a joke (almost impossible if you are not playing an interrupt- heavy class or the easiest mission in the game if you are a mesmer or a hammer warrior).

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Ya I henchied it as well with my warrior.

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

yeah, but dont forget, eveyone has a nightmare place in GW, for some of us, its elona, others its thirsty river, and for witchblade, its here....
sometimes its just one little thing that borks you up, even in any game...

(try using Brasstex's medievil fairground wheeled bins in the sims2 after OfB or FFP and load the lot, you'll see, it locks up till yu take em out)

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

they fixed the bug with the local quarter henchies running toward the foreign quarter players thus leaving Togo undefended? Thus mission failed glitch yet?

Riken Chrono

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

around the corner and up the block

Hero

i can monk for you. IGN- Chaos Frozen i'll probably be farming trolls or something but i'll come if i have enough time

Trin Storm

Trin Storm

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Balthazar's Fury

R/Me

I have actually never seen the bug myself, but I thought it was fixed.

The only times I've not been able to get through this mission is when the opposing teamis all Henchie. I think Rayea is right though - each of us have our mission from hell that seems to give us fits when our guild mates or friend get hopelessly stuck

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

I failed the mission 7 times in a row because all the other team's henches came running over to us, leaving Togo completely undefended. There is no way to get to the square quickly enough either, even running through all the Am Fah. (Foreign Quarter btw)

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

what bugged me was that, although i had done the friends of the am fah quest thing (so they were green to me and my henches) Mhenlo attacked them and i had to slap them around because of him ^^

(talk about being bad company^^ i mean,its worth it to have him along just to see him and Cynn fighting, but is it worth having to slap a group that im on No-Kill status with, to keep him about...gees, if i could just tell him..'um, their leaving us alone right now, dont go calling them thevin *delted* dog till they are outa earshot, ok?' lol)

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Riken Chrono
i can monk for you. IGN- Chaos Frozen i'll probably be farming trolls or something but i'll come if i have enough time
ty

the bug has always been the same for me... the 2 first fights are ok.. but u cant get the door opened .. Menhlo and Togo are idling past the doors just after the 2nd fight :/

rollntider

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

anarchy

Me/Rt

hmm...I had issues the first time, but since have gotten 2 toons through it...
on the first try a warrior and a MM. I do know that mission with Danika is bugged at times. I had to do it like 5 times before she would open the door....(its a mission later down the road)

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Very weird... I've heard about this countless times, yet I've brought 4 characters through this mission and only failed once. From the early access day till just yesterday, never a glitch anywhere.

Witchblade

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

final observation: u GOTTA have a full hench opposite team to make it work?

first time i got no human ppl in the Cantha team.. this time both monks followed

i dont get it !!

**hugs** to Rayea ofc as usual

Morgana

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Armour of the Republic

N/W

hm... I've done Vizunah twice(foreign quarter both times) and never had any problems with it. Except for lag, which ended when I set my graphics to the lowest setting. To be quite honest, I kinda like the mission.

xxinsainxx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Be Jealous[hehタ]

Mo/Me

its not hard to do it is buged but in my experience dont run down when u start the mission to togo i think it buges if u do that so make sure u kill everything at the start when ur on ur way to togo.

outferno

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

San Jose, CA

Forsaken Wanderers

Depends on how you start, I have never encounted this problem (maybe I'm lucky) but I've done it on 3 of my characters already (two Tyrian, one Canthan).

The thing I found frustrating was being in a Tyrian team and having a full group of henchies + 1 RL player on the Canthan team. The only solution we had was to have 1 of the monks run down and have the other 7 of us kill the Am Fah before we get to the center, so that one monk can heal Master Togo. This seemed to work out fairly well.

You can't simply have the whole team run through, or else Mehnlo will get himself stuck.

KvanCetre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

The Madison Scouts

E/Mo

Fact: Henchmen have nothing to do with Mhenlo and Togo.

I have beat it twice now, on my first attempt with each character.

First I played through with my assassin... had one other player and all henchmen. Went fine.
Second time I played through with my Tyrian character... both teams had all players. Went fine.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Hmm did it the first time with henchies...I didn't find it at all challenging. In fact I've henched most of the missions so far. I'm at Temple now with my furthest Canthan toon and I'll probably hench it too. With the new overlapping patrols patience and aggro management are the keys to success. It's a lot harder to isolate and pull one group at a time but it can be done. The key is to fight everything though. You get there in plenty of time if you have decent damage output, even with henchies and it keeps you from getting Mehnlo stuck.

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Keep in mind the two versions:
V Square Foreign Quarter - Tyrians coming in - run with Mhenlo towards Togo
V Square Local Quarter - Cathan students holding out with Togo till above

And from what I can see there is no ability to crossover (tried to help a Cathan created guildie with my Tyrian warrior, also have failed to get any Tyrian character to V Square local, yay cheesy gates and separation :b :b :b)

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

I've done this mission 3 times and steamrolled it to get the master's reward every time, I don't get what's so hard. Heck, the first time I did it without a Canthan team. As for the bug, well, I've never encountered it. Are you doing anything unusual like running ot the square or not activating the cutscene?

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

I'm still stuck at the 'Foreign' Vizunah square mission.

For the last ten or so attempts, as soon as the first gate opens Mhenlo just drops dead! No enemies or anything are nearby, he just takes one step inside the gate and voila, instadeath and mission failed.

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Don’t you just love people who, instead of offering constructive advice, brag about how easy a mission was for them? “I did this mission blindfolded, solo, sitting on my hands, pecking the keyboard with my nose and found 6 Greens and capped 10 Elites. I don’t see the problem.” Hello? The OP needed help, not people bragging about how easy it was for them.

Ruby Lightheart

Ruby Lightheart

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Clan of Elders

R/Mo

im having massive problems with this misison. Im a ranger and cant seem to get past this misison. I really would like to cause well..the slum areas are rather depressing

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

I've done both missions, Foreign and Local and like I said with Mehnlo I have never had a problem keeping him alive. You just have to kill everything. No running through. You actually have to play. You can easily get masters reward slaughtering everything in the mission. With Local the key there is to keep yourself near Togo at all times. I did it with my N/Rit and I didn't heal him. All I had to do was keep aggro off of him by targeting anyone that came close. The AI on minions and henchies now means some will focus on your new target but not all and so you get some holders and some killers. then the monks take over and heal Togo. Again...kill everything! If you try to run through this mission you will lose.

eifiji20

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

CIA

N/

This is actually my favorite mission yet....it bugged a couple times for me, but i've done it succesfully a few tiems now, and love this mission.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I was lucky to join in a party that complete this mission on the first try. We have two monk, 4 warriors, one ritualist, one necro. We got it done within 39 minutes (i know its not the top ranking time). Also can anyone confirm this with me, this mission seem to give lots of decent to rare drop since you have to fight groups of afflicted at different locations.

Pevil Lihatuh

Pevil Lihatuh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Yorkshire, UK

R/Me

Good god I hate this mission. It's not because its particularly hard (first time I attempted it I was on Tyrian side, it must have glitched coz no Canthan team was in game with me at all and I got to second major wave of enemies easily). I just hate the fact I'm forced to be with another team. There's a reason I don't PUG, but at least in a PUG I can see what people are like beforehand. If I want to be forced into game with people I have no clue about, I'll play random arenas.

Para

Para

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Netherlands/American Districts

Reds Go Together 대한민국

Most of the time Togo dies before I arrive 0o !!

eudas

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Vizunah_Square_(Mission)

see "Glitches" section.

eudas

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

well, we managed it ^^
(so the OP is now happy..offers of help for the next poor stuck person, please pass along )

outferno

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

San Jose, CA

Forsaken Wanderers

The first time I did it, there was no Canthan team. It was also on the day of the head start - so maybe the implimented it after that.

jonnybegood

jonnybegood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

huh?

The Final Exodus[FX]

if anyones having a hard time on this mish, just wait

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by jummeth
I failed the mission 7 times in a row because all the other team's henches came running over to us, leaving Togo completely undefended. There is no way to get to the square quickly enough either, even running through all the Am Fah. (Foreign Quarter btw)
This isn't true... I have found that so long as nothing over agros around Togo, he can pretty much take care of himself. If you have another human down there - they are required to do one thing and one thing only: Defend the immediate surroundings of Togo - only what is in mellee on him. Assassin with a staff FTW!

the first time I went through it was all henchies with Togo, fought all the way down no rushing, no problem!
I did this again on another character and we kept running into new peeps that didn't know what they were doing and kept getting to much agro >_<

Finally we got an assassin with a staff and fought slowly down like you are supposed to (running it causes the glitch) and managed to save the day even tho someone didn't skip the cutscene.

It CAN be done, it's just hard and completely depends on the team down at the lower area.

pyrohex

pyrohex

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Do the cutscenes count towards mission completion times? I passed with ~28 on my first try, with a full team of henchies (Canthan side) and an excellent full player team on the other side - but it was still quite slow. I was wondering if anyone has completed both level of the bonus, and how.

jummeth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

London

Diary of a Madman [SiKK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eviance
This isn't true... I have found that so long as nothing over agros around Togo, he can pretty much take care of himself. If you have another human down there - they are required to do one thing and one thing only: Defend the immediate surroundings of Togo - only what is in mellee on him. Assassin with a staff FTW!

the first time I went through it was all henchies with Togo, fought all the way down no rushing, no problem!
I did this again on another character and we kept running into new peeps that didn't know what they were doing and kept getting to much agro >_<

Finally we got an assassin with a staff and fought slowly down like you are supposed to (running it causes the glitch) and managed to save the day even tho someone didn't skip the cutscene.

It CAN be done, it's just hard and completely depends on the team down at the lower area.
I wish I took a screenshot, you clearly saw all the other team run towards our group which would be the bottom left of the square, where the second group of assassins drop down. Togo is the other side, which where he kinda just dies.

It might not be such a problem if both teams are 1 RL+7 hench since you only have 1 RL pulling their henches away, but we had 8 RL players our side and many many times, we pulled the other team's henches towards us and basically Togo dies. Its an easy mission after that minor glitch is passed.

artay

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

I did this mission with 2 full partys easy, just use a MM or AoE spells. Give Anet a break, its only been released like a week and a bit ago. Do you know how buggey the missions were in profecies when the game first came out?