And so.. now that Factions is out...
generik
Over the past few days I think I've seen quite a lot of what Factions have to offer.. so where's the so called big marketplace (aka Auction House) and increased storage boxes that Gaile has happily goaded us into believe are forthcoming but obviously no where in sight?
MMSDome
it was said they wouldnt come out with this till Chapter 3. They began making Chapter 2 right after Ch. 1 was released, probably even before. They had no time at all to make a auction house in the game considering people didnt want it till later after ch. 1 was released, therefor putting an in game auction house was to late. Wait 6 months for the auction house!
Ka El Windstorm
They never said it would come with the game, but that it is a work in progress...Just don't hold your breathe.
guppy
I think it may be possible for them to update it into the game since it doesn't directly affect any gameplay mechanics, just items and the trades.
I hope they do try and do it before ch.3, because I don't want to believe the next (in my opinion) important type of update to the game will only come every chapter.
I hope they do try and do it before ch.3, because I don't want to believe the next (in my opinion) important type of update to the game will only come every chapter.
MMSDome
an auction house is a pretty big update, as small as it may seem just think of thousands of people putting items for bid. How do they sort it all out so that you dont have tons of space to scroll, its not a simple and easy thing to do.
generik
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
it was said they wouldnt come out with this till Chapter 3. They began making Chapter 2 right after Ch. 1 was released, probably even before. They had no time at all to make a auction house in the game considering people didnt want it till later after ch. 1 was released, therefor putting an in game auction house was to late. Wait 6 months for the auction house!
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MMSDome
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Originally Posted by generik
If it truly took them so long to produce Chap 2, I do not even dare to think about the crap Chapter 3 will be, being cobbled together in a mere 6 months. That said I think I will just wait for official word that the features I want are out instead of "trusting" Anet's hype and koolaid
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Eclair
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Originally Posted by generik
If it truly took them so long to produce Chap 2, I do not even dare to think about the crap Chapter 3 will be, being cobbled together in a mere 6 months. That said I think I will just wait for official word that the features I want are out instead of "trusting" Anet's hype and koolaid
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Sientir
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Originally Posted by generik
If it truly took them so long to produce Chap 2, I do not even dare to think about the crap Chapter 3 will be, being cobbled together in a mere 6 months. That said I think I will just wait for official word that the features I want are out instead of "trusting" Anet's hype and koolaid
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generik
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
your view on factions is your personal opinion.
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
You try and make a game like guild wars perfect, it takes lots of time. Its not something you whip up in a quick 6 months, it takes much longer.
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And for what ive seen theyve done an awsome job. Kudos do the NCSOFT-ANET Alliance!
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MMSDome
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Originally Posted by generik
And likewise your view on fedex is your personal opinion as well.
Ah yes, time.. which Anet obviously didn't invest enough of. Yes, Kudos do you too! |
How did they not invest enough time? THERE IS BUGS IN THE GAME YES. There is always bugs in every game because they dont know whats gonna be wrong before the release a game so they can zap the prpblem. They arent like most game addicts that farm for 4587 hours and notice a glitch, you cant blame them for that. Try and join a major game company that manufactures high selling games and take a walk in their shoes for a while, ITS NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK.
Argen
Wow... normally, it takes more than 10 total posts in a thread before the OP starts attacking people for their typos.
I'd say wait for an official word, I hope there is a big SF-style update in the game, maybe they will sneak it with that... or they'll wait until they nerf all weapons to the stats of candy canes and have it come out there.
The Auction House wasn't a promised feature for Chapter 2, it was just a promised feature in the future.
I'd say wait for an official word, I hope there is a big SF-style update in the game, maybe they will sneak it with that... or they'll wait until they nerf all weapons to the stats of candy canes and have it come out there.
The Auction House wasn't a promised feature for Chapter 2, it was just a promised feature in the future.
michaeldt
I wonder what the OP would have said if anet had said fations was being delayed by 3 months? or indeed, many of the others who have so much to complain about...
Gonzo
Actually more storage has never been said by Gaile, even the option for Auction houses has not been mentioned.
The only thing that has been said (over and over and over again btw check about any log in, say, march) are:
- Storage improvements will be made.
- Trade system improvements will be made.
- This will be done some time after release of Factions.
The storage system will be something new, but it probably won't be more storage (this has also been confirmed), I have no idea what it will be though, nothing has been said about this.
The only thing that has been said (over and over and over again btw check about any log in, say, march) are:
- Storage improvements will be made.
- Trade system improvements will be made.
- This will be done some time after release of Factions.
The storage system will be something new, but it probably won't be more storage (this has also been confirmed), I have no idea what it will be though, nothing has been said about this.
Cyan The Archer
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Originally Posted by michaeldt
I wonder what the OP would have said if anet had said fations was being delayed by 3 months? or indeed, many of the others who have so much to complain about...
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led-zep
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How did they not invest enough time? THERE IS BUGS IN THE GAME YES. There is always bugs in every game because they dont know whats gonna be wrong before the release a game so they can zap the prpblem. They arent like most game addicts that farm for 4587 hours and notice a glitch, you cant blame them for that. Try and join a major game company that manufactures high selling games and take a walk in their shoes for a while, ITS NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK.
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still to release the game as they did with no way to spend your factions and npc's not working s pretty poor by anyones standards. at least they eventually sorted that one though.
generik
Still when playing through faction much of the earlier content feels so unoriginal. The Afflicited looks just like... headcrabbed scientists from Half Life. The Mantids? Remember the Antlions? Hell they look awfully similar.
Plus I don't have to mention how we have the same skins reused from GW:P.
What's more there is nothing in factions that's similar to SF or ToPK or UW or FoW (ie: PvE areas that are not elitist but somewhat challenging, zones that you can just sit down, and enjoy without some *huge* commitment).
Plus I don't have to mention how we have the same skins reused from GW:P.
What's more there is nothing in factions that's similar to SF or ToPK or UW or FoW (ie: PvE areas that are not elitist but somewhat challenging, zones that you can just sit down, and enjoy without some *huge* commitment).
Gonzo
I agree with that. I haven't tried the Challenge missions though. But for those that buy only Factions, you can still enter FoW and UW from Cantha. I hope one of the other gods will get a realm soon.
Stockholm
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How did they not invest enough time? THERE IS BUGS IN THE GAME YES. There is always bugs in every game because they dont know whats gonna be wrong before the release a game so they can zap the prpblem. They arent like most game addicts that farm for 4587 hours and notice a glitch, you cant blame them for that. Try and join a major game company that manufactures high selling games and take a walk in their shoes for a while, ITS NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINK.
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Alex Weekes
Factions is a major content release. If you think back (or read interviews from last year), you'll remember that it has been stated previously that content releases will usually be made via a campaign purchase.
Features such as improved trade mechanisms, storage and more are free updates. They'll be added to the game, at no cost, as soon as the individual features are ready. For example, the Balthazar Faction unlocking feature was added between campaigns, as have other features since the release of Prophecies (eg cape and hat visibility toggles).
Many features that players request are being worked on, and they won't be held back when they are finally ready. You'll get them as soon as they are ready.
Features such as improved trade mechanisms, storage and more are free updates. They'll be added to the game, at no cost, as soon as the individual features are ready. For example, the Balthazar Faction unlocking feature was added between campaigns, as have other features since the release of Prophecies (eg cape and hat visibility toggles).
Many features that players request are being worked on, and they won't be held back when they are finally ready. You'll get them as soon as they are ready
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CK0
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Originally Posted by michaeldt
I wonder what the OP would have said if anet had said fations was being delayed by 3 months? or indeed, many of the others who have so much to complain about...
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IMHO, the release could have been pushed back a bit and I wouldn't even care. I'm sure others wouldn't have cared either. The point being is that it was released when many college or high school students are finishing up their semester and preparing for final exams. Education goes before any kind of leisure such as a game, and we can certainly do without the lure of playing one.
Or how about ANET not putting their foot down to the deadline of April 28th, the date near or exact to their original release? They obviously did not want to delay from that for some reason.
C.K.0.@!
generik
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Or how about ANET not putting their foot down to the deadline of April 28th, the date near or exact to their original release? They obviously did not want to delay from that for some reason.
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Snowman
I must admit, I am rather disapointed by the lack of word from Gaile or anyone about storage.
Up to factions nearly every time she spoke she mentioned 'improvments to trade' and that they were 'HIGH priority'.. also the recconect issue was 'HIGH priority'..
I understand that these things take time, and Im not saying I expected them to be done by now, but I find it very suspicious that suddenly Gaile has gone cold on these issues, the best we get is 'sorry no news on..x' (were x = HIGH priority improvments)
Just a word or two would be sufficient, but usually when Gaile goes cold on a subject the news isnt good.. opting to give no news instead of badnews.
Up to factions nearly every time she spoke she mentioned 'improvments to trade' and that they were 'HIGH priority'.. also the recconect issue was 'HIGH priority'..
I understand that these things take time, and Im not saying I expected them to be done by now, but I find it very suspicious that suddenly Gaile has gone cold on these issues, the best we get is 'sorry no news on..x' (were x = HIGH priority improvments)
Just a word or two would be sufficient, but usually when Gaile goes cold on a subject the news isnt good.. opting to give no news instead of badnews.
Loviatar
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If it truly took them so long to produce Chap 2, I do not even dare to think about the crap Chapter 3 will be, being cobbled together in a mere 6 months. That said I think I will just wait for official word that the features I want are out instead of "trusting" Anet's hype and koolaid
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get as mad as you want to but at least try to get some facts straight instead of uninformed tripe.it was announced many places (including here) that the chapter 3 team started work 6 months after the release of GW so as to give a full year on it come release oct/nov.
if you hate it so much why are you still playing anyway?
serious question as if i get a game i dont like i dont play it and wonder at someone who forces themselves to play while hating the game.
morte
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Perhaps bank account running dry
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Stepping off soapbox now.
Snowman
in any case, C3 will be an expansion, not a stand alone, it wont be as costly as Factions, and therfore not as much content.
WetWookie
I doubt that. Why would it be an expansion and not stand alone?
CK0
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if you hate it so much why are you still playing anyway?
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If you had to pay $50 for a game that cannot be returned, and were disappointed with the content, I would be furious as well. You play it to try and salvage what you can out of your loss, and you point out your disappointments so improvements can possibly be made for the future. Apparently you don't understand the current frustrations, so please refrain from involving yourself in them.
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Does everyone realize that we are enjoying an essentially free entertainment venue. Every other MMPRG I have ever played, and its been quite a few, have a monthly subscription fee.
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Loviatar
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Apparently you don't understand the current frustrations, so please refrain from involving yourself in them.
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you are correct as i for one am having fun as it seems most people are except a small amount of complainers who are on all sites feeding each other.
some salt to run in your wounds
http://www.gamershell.com/news/29984.html
NCsoft Europe announced that Guild Wars Factions, the next campaign of Guild Wars, the popular mission-based competitive online RPG developed by ArenaNet, has gone straight to the number one position on the UK PC chart (compiled by Chart Track © ELSPA). Launched last week, Guild Wars: Factions offers new regions, professions, skills, missions, and monsters, along with expanded options for both Cooperative and Player-versus-Player (PvP) play, and enhanced features for guilds.
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.j...r=2006&week=18
NUMBER 1 HERE ALSO FOR SALES
Developer Label Publisher 1 1 GUILD WARS: FACTIONS ARENANET NCSOFT EUROPE NCSOFT EUROPE
just for good measure it is at the top of the asia tracker as well.
you are the small minority
Omni Spirit
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in any case, C3 will be an expansion, not a stand alone, it wont be as costly as Factions, and therfore not as much content.
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Theos
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It better be an expansion and selling for $30, no way is anybody buying another chapter with such small content.
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UndeadRoadkill
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Only small content to the mentally deficient and blind. Sorry to say.
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felinette
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http://www.gamershell.com/news/29984.html
NCsoft Europe announced that Guild Wars Factions, the next campaign of Guild Wars, the popular mission-based competitive online RPG developed by ArenaNet, has gone straight to the number one position on the UK PC chart (compiled by Chart Track © ELSPA). |
Theos
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I don't know, I think you'd have to be mentally deficient and blind not be able to finish it in an afternoon. That's considerably less content than the original.
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Would you look at that, I can beat prophecies with a level 20 in a day too, I guess using your logic Prophecies sucks. Oh well, hypocrisy.
felinette
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I don't know, I think you'd have to be mentally deficient and blind not be able to finish it in an afternoon. That's considerably less content than the original.
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UndeadRoadkill
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Here is an idea, instead of supporting you argument "I finished factions in XXX time with my level 20 character by rushing the game" why don't you try playing prophecies from LA on with a level 20 char and tell me how long it takes. Lets see, about 15 missions, you can plow through five to ten of them in less than 30 minutes each... leaving maybe 10 missions for you to actually give effort on and several of them are jokes.
Would you look at that, I can beat prophecies with a level 20 in a day too, I guess using your logic Prophecies sucks. Oh well, hypocrisy. |
I started a character from scratch in Cantha, and played through it at a normal pace. I even dragged my feet in a few places. I finished Factions in a fraction of the time that it takes me to do the Prophecies campaign.
So by suggesting I start with a level 20 at LA you're admitting that Factions is only comparable to a portion of Prophecies, and not the whole?
Theos
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Here's an idea, stop making assumptions about how I played the game.
I started a character from scratch in Cantha, and played through it at a normal pace. I even dragged my feet in a few places. I finished Factions in a fraction of the time that it takes me to do the Prophecies campaign. So by suggesting I start with a level 20 at LA you're admitting that Factions is only comparable to a portion of Prophecies, and not the whole? |
By saying from LA on I am ommiting a section I deem comparable to Starter island which a level 20 has no "real" access too. Way to use your head, genius.
UndeadRoadkill
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You omit the fact that you know how the game works, that simple knowledge allows you to plow through the game. I can plow through presear with in two hours, the rest of the game is not all that time consuming. Especially since I know the tricks of the game.
By saying from LA on I am ommiting a section I deem comparable to Starter island which a level 20 has no "real" access too. Way to use your head, genius. |
What's more is that considering I knew exactly what to do in Tyria the second and third times through, whereas I'd never played Factions before, you'd think that it would slow me down a lot in Cantha if the content is equal. But this isn't the case.
Since you're such a genius that you mock me, how about you explain how the comment about LA and how a level 20 has no access to the starter island has any relevance at all? If you're trying to show that Factions has as much content as Prophecies, comparing the dinky starter island to ALL the content before Lions Arch is NOT the way to do it.
Do you have anything to say that doesn't end up supporting my argument instead, or do you think that trying to insult people makes you more right? GG, Theo, but you fail to support your point.
Theos
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Did you consider that I may have played more than one Prophecies character? I'm not comparing my Factions experience to my first character where I was learning, I'm comparing it to my second and third.
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What's more is that considering I knew exactly what to do in Tyria the second and third times through, whereas I'd never played Factions before, you'd think that it would slow me down a lot in Cantha if the content is equal. But this isn't the case.
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Since you're such a genius that you mock me, how about you explain how the comment about LA and how a level 20 has no access to the starter island has any relevance at all? If you're trying to show that Factions has as much content as Prophecies, comparing the dinky starter island to ALL the content before Lions Arch is NOT the way to do it.
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Do you have anything to say that doesn't end up supporting my argument instead, or do you think that trying to insult people makes you more right? GG, Theo, but you fail to support your point.
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UndeadRoadkill
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Why yes I did, see I assume you started either with an equal level of knowledge.
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Your logic is at best null here, in Factions you can do more than one thing at once, such as quests. While in Prophecies you had to run from point A, map to reach point B, then hopefully point C was still in the same map, all this time you cover pointless amounts of space with nothing more than scenery. You point fails.
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ALL? All the content before LA, especially Ascalon is a place most players want to escape and quickly, luckily the game allows you to do this with four easy missions. The Island of Shing Jea gives two missions, one that is tutorial (simply removing any real need for Presear) and a mission that offer some challenge to those who may be new or "rusty", it infacts offers you multiple paths to a single objective which no other mission ever has. The starter island has abot as many quests as ALL of the content you seem to worship, if not more, it is simply more packed and there are not MASSIVE wastes of space where you can simply look at things, how very... worthwhile. So yes, the Island is equatable to Ascalon -> NPeaks.
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I do not see how I supported you, I simply omitted pointless information I assumed you would have gathered, or infered. I suppose I was wrong, I am sorry I will, from now on, use very long sentences to say the same. After all you do like lots of wasted space, so I will make sure everyone of my replies is filled with Verbal BS.
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