Most Useless ranger skills ever
Kariston The Swift
I have to disagree with all the people who said that Trapper's Focus sucks...I like using it cause its not a stance so I can have serpents up all the time with it. I'll admit its not as useful as Oathshot Trapping but in 12v12 you can make some godly trap bombs with it when no enemys are around to Oath shot.
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Kariston The Swift
I have to disagree with all the people who said that Trapper's Focus sucks...I like using it cause its not a stance so I can have serpents up all the time with it. I'll admit its not as useful as Oathshot Trapping but in 12v12 you can make some godly trap bombs with it when no enemys are around to Oath shot..
If no enemies are around then you don't have to use Trapper's Focus to avoid interruption.
But I agree that it is a decent skill. You can lay down more than one trap interrupt free, it's not a stance, and lets you use something other than /me if you want to trap.
But I agree that it is a decent skill. You can lay down more than one trap interrupt free, it's not a stance, and lets you use something other than /me if you want to trap.
A_Muppet
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Originally Posted by Wolydarg
It gives all pets in your party +20 armor for 30 seconds is what he's trying to say.....that means they take half as much damage IIRC
My vote for most useless ranger skill definitely goes to Archer's Signet.. Yea, drop it with call of protection with 16 beast mastery, and you're pet can take a s**t-kicking that can make warriros blanche.
My vote for most useless ranger skill definitely goes to Archer's Signet.. Yea, drop it with call of protection with 16 beast mastery, and you're pet can take a s**t-kicking that can make warriros blanche.

Francis Demeules
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Originally Posted by Kariston The Swift
I have to disagree with all the people who said that Trapper's Focus sucks...I like using it cause its not a stance so I can have serpents up all the time with it. I'll admit its not as useful as Oathshot Trapping but in 12v12 you can make some godly trap bombs with it when no enemys are around to Oath shot.
This is one of my I point thought because I capped this skill and never used before. Well, I think I talk a little faster than testing myself. Its good but, I'm not really a good trapper so..... I put it away for a while when I'll have the time for it.

Sir Mad
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Francis Demeules
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Originally Posted by Sir Mad
-_-' Heal as One is one of the best elites... Make a beastmaster with 16BM and tell me again how shitty this skill is >.<
Heal As one does how much exactly in healing? 150-180 HP for both while health is below 75% of you or your pet? I havent tested at 16 beastmastery.
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by Sir Mad
-_-' Heal as One is one of the best elites... Make a beastmaster with 16BM and tell me again how shitty this skill is >.<
Looking at it alone, it's not a bad skill at all. It' just that it's forced to compete with Ferocious Strike and Enraged Lunge.
Francis Demeules
1 to gain Adrenaline and Energy (Ferocious Strike)
1 to to Big dmg in one blow (Enraged Lunge)
1 to do self defense with healing (Heal As One)
1 to to Big dmg in one blow (Enraged Lunge)
1 to do self defense with healing (Heal As One)
samifly
Archer's sig is quite useful for concussion shot, spamming needling shot, or working inside of a mursaat tower.
Wolydarg
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Originally Posted by samifly
Archer's sig is quite useful for concussion shot, spamming needling shot, or working inside of a mursaat tower.
3 Missions in the game have mursaat towers..having a few extra shots inside a murssat tower that's only in 3 missions isn't exactly elite worthy..even if it means getting a concussion shot (in which the seals have a glyph of concentration to counter) off. Needling shot isn't worth the shots for archer's signets as they're pretty much nothing with high enough expertise, which you'll need to be able to make use of an elite...
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by Wolydarg
It gives all pets in your party +20 armor for 30 seconds is what he's trying to say.....that means they take half as much damage IIRC
No, 40 armour is half damage, 20 is somet like 44% The only use that skill has is if your in a large team of Beastmasters. Its hardly gonna find a place in Barrage/Pet as the pets don't really have to live.
Maria The Princess
lol
PLEASE PM me in game and try killing my wa/mo with your pet
PLEASE PM me in game and try killing my wa/mo with your pet
Kuja
Otyugh's cry should be turned into a spell where all local animals turn to level 20 and mimic your own pet, then i'd be kind of awesome.
Francis Demeules
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Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
lol
PLEASE PM me in game and try killing my wa/mo with your pet Maybe not killing but do lot damage yes (and conditions too). Since Factions, pet's attacks ans shouts have become really strong. Now your pet can poison and Daze.
Just to say like that, my highest damage my pet did was about 130dmg.
PLEASE PM me in game and try killing my wa/mo with your pet Maybe not killing but do lot damage yes (and conditions too). Since Factions, pet's attacks ans shouts have become really strong. Now your pet can poison and Daze.
Just to say like that, my highest damage my pet did was about 130dmg.
Shantel Span
Maria the Princess, I have added you to my friends list. We'll see. 
EDIT:
The challenge has been finalized...the results:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...swar-befoe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...e/petvswar.jpg
One pet that doesn't need dinner, and one dead warrior.
Thanks for being a good sport, Princess.

EDIT:
The challenge has been finalized...the results:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...swar-befoe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...e/petvswar.jpg
One pet that doesn't need dinner, and one dead warrior.

Wolydarg
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
No, 40 armour is half damage, 20 is somet like 44% The only use that skill has is if your in a large team of Beastmasters. Its hardly gonna find a place in Barrage/Pet as the pets don't really have to live.
Ahh, thanks for the info, wasn't really too sure
Lasher Dragon
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Originally Posted by Shantel Span
Maria the Princess, I have added you to my friends list. We'll see. 
EDIT:
The challenge has been finalized...the results:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...swar-befoe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...e/petvswar.jpg
One pet that doesn't need dinner, and one dead warrior.
Thanks for being a good sport, Princess.
LOL and the pet isn't even 20th level WTF LMAO
GG

EDIT:
The challenge has been finalized...the results:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...swar-befoe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...e/petvswar.jpg
One pet that doesn't need dinner, and one dead warrior.

GG
Maria The Princess
degen to death, didnt have enouth energy to remove conditions. since pet wasnt doin "fast" damage bonneties def wasnt very good source of e income.
just so u know, im kinda noob in the warior thing, since shes only 2 weeks old and i never had 1 before, so I dont have ALOT of skills and any elites yet, but got all max armor (kinda got rushed by guildies through the game to HzH)
but that was fun
just so u know, im kinda noob in the warior thing, since shes only 2 weeks old and i never had 1 before, so I dont have ALOT of skills and any elites yet, but got all max armor (kinda got rushed by guildies through the game to HzH)

Francis Demeules
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Originally Posted by Shantel Span
Maria the Princess, I have added you to my friends list. We'll see. 
EDIT:
The challenge has been finalized...the results:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...swar-befoe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...e/petvswar.jpg
One pet that doesn't need dinner, and one dead warrior.
Thanks for being a good sport, Princess.
Already started with a -7 degen has I can see in the build. Enraged Lunge... ouch... just..... ouch! Looks like the wolf is Hearty too.

EDIT:
The challenge has been finalized...the results:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...swar-befoe.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...e/petvswar.jpg
One pet that doesn't need dinner, and one dead warrior.

Jenosavel
It could have just as easily been Dire as Hearty from the screens, since they're both the same size. I'm curious as to which the wolfie was. Hearty or Dire? With Call of Prot + Symbiotic Bond, a Dire pet would have been quite a bit more dangerous than a Hearty one.
Terra Xin
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Originally Posted by Ecklipze
Useless ranger skill = Otyugh's Cry
This is actually "THE" most useless skill in the game
Knido
charm animal
one time use WTF
one time use WTF
Maria The Princess
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Originally Posted by Knido
charm animal
one time use WTF ....always having a mini tank with you.... whenever u have skill
useless?!
one time use WTF ....always having a mini tank with you.... whenever u have skill
useless?!
Knido
well when your pet is a lv 5 moa bird, yes

Jack Valmont
I think all Ranger skills have their uses, you just have to figure them out.
Shantel Span
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Originally Posted by Francis Demeules
Already started with a -7 degen has I can see in the build. Enraged Lunge... ouch... just..... ouch! Looks like the wolf is Hearty too.
Dire.
My old one was hearty but I want a serious beastmaster build, which demands Dire. That's the reason it was a lower level.

Skuld
Archer's Signet, awful skill
Francis Demeules
Archer signet is so useful against E-drainer or something like that. You have no energy, what do you do? Archer Sig and tada, you can use your skills without energy. At first, I thought it was basicly to reduce concussion shot cost but I see something more useful.
Wolydarg
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Originally Posted by Francis Demeules
Archer signet is so useful against E-drainer or something like that. You have no energy, what do you do? Archer Sig and tada, you can use your skills without energy. At first, I thought it was basicly to reduce concussion shot cost but I see something more useful.
Because rangers always have a problem with those e-drain mesmers camping them?
If you're being e-drained instead of your monk(s) then something's very wrong with the other team and you should be thankful your monks can heal instead of being pissed off you can only shoot people...
Ranger skills aren't that energy extensive anyways, Concussion/Broad Head Arrow top the list at 25 energy, which should be reduced drastically by expertise, otherwise you shouldn't be using Archer's Signet at a low expertise anyways...

If you're being e-drained instead of your monk(s) then something's very wrong with the other team and you should be thankful your monks can heal instead of being pissed off you can only shoot people...
Ranger skills aren't that energy extensive anyways, Concussion/Broad Head Arrow top the list at 25 energy, which should be reduced drastically by expertise, otherwise you shouldn't be using Archer's Signet at a low expertise anyways...
Jack Valmont
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Originally Posted by Terra Xin
This is actually "THE" most useless skill in the game
This skill can be used with Call of Protection for basically a tank. The 15 base damage reduction and the +20 armor is pretty much all you're going to need to have one beast of a tank.
BaconSoda
I have to say that the most useless skill for ranger is point blank shot (and it's copy).
I understand it's usage, extra damage at the loss of range, however, I personally beleive that the range is far more valuable, unless you are using a long/flatbow on the top of a hill, which is sheer stupidity since you should be using the increase in range with a short/recurve bow to fire faster with more accuracy.
I understand it's usage, extra damage at the loss of range, however, I personally beleive that the range is far more valuable, unless you are using a long/flatbow on the top of a hill, which is sheer stupidity since you should be using the increase in range with a short/recurve bow to fire faster with more accuracy.
legless_the_elf
hmm. i did see Famine being posted above but im wondering what if it were to be coupled with Sympathetic Visage (or its copy)? what would happen, would it trigger once on the (smites) or would it keep triggering making it like a super duper SS forever thing...hmmm
Francis Demeules
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Originally Posted by legless_the_elf
hmm. i did see Famine being posted above but im wondering what if it were to be coupled with Sympathetic Visage (or its copy)? what would happen, would it trigger once on the (smites) or would it keep triggering making it like a super duper SS forever thing...hmmm
Famine is one of the E-denial primary skill for Ranger. You use Famine and you shot Debilitating Shot (-10 energy) and the E-Denial mesmer will use his/her skills at the same target with Mind Wrack. When the Target goes to 0, Famine + Mind Wrack dmg. When the target has upper than 1 energy and you drop him/her again to 0, Famine will triggering again.
Good E-Denial teamwork.
Good E-Denial teamwork.
antiarchangel
I vote called shot
never found a use for it.
never found a use for it.
Maria The Princess
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Originally Posted by antiarchangel
I vote called shot
never found a use for it. having it whith apply poisn , incendary arrows or some damage preparation, and use it on that tank in a stance thinking hes smarter thaen evrybody
or you can go the other way, and have seeking arrows as preparation and use damaging bow attaks, like dual shot or poison arrow
never found a use for it. having it whith apply poisn , incendary arrows or some damage preparation, and use it on that tank in a stance thinking hes smarter thaen evrybody

or you can go the other way, and have seeking arrows as preparation and use damaging bow attaks, like dual shot or poison arrow
Retribution
I'm waiting for anet to somehow incorporate a pet rez in either charm animal or heal as one, why do you need 2 skills just to be able to use some half retarded animal? They need to make heal as one rez the animal and either heal bigger or recharge faster (prefer the latter). Famine is good for team e-denial + pressure (1 ranger set this up and 4 warriors spamming fear me). Conflagration sucks unless you have an ele putting mark of rodgort on everyone but then you could just use a fiery bowstring. Its only real use is to screw up ranger spike using orders, but even without orders its going to be painful.
potato monster
tigers fury is the most useless skill becuz u can use lightning releflexes and then u evede attacks 75 % chance and your non attacks dont recharge
Helll is for Heroes
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Originally Posted by potato monster
tigers fury is the most useless skill becuz u can use lightning releflexes and then u evede attacks 75 % chance and your non attacks dont recharge
oh dear! you obviously havent heard of:
bunny thumpers
iway warriors
vim warriors
and a whole lotta builds that include tigers fury!
bunny thumpers
iway warriors
vim warriors
and a whole lotta builds that include tigers fury!
SnipiousMax
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Originally Posted by potato monster
tigers fury is the most useless skill becuz u can use lightning releflexes and then u evede attacks 75 % chance and your non attacks dont recharge
Next time your on, look at the Recharge time of Lightning Reflexes...
Francis Demeules
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Originally Posted by antiarchangel
never found a use for it.
The end
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Originally Posted by potato monster
tigers fury is the most useless skill becuz u can use lightning releflexes and then u evede attacks 75 % chance and your non attacks dont recharge
a 10 sec recharge stance vs 60 sec recharge stance. Oh and both 10 sec max they last. For evade, I stay with Escape or WD (with Oath Shot)
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