Have done it with the Leighwyn's ALT+TAB method.
Thats works great.
Thanks for the maps and al suggestion in this forum.
100% Canthan Map Discussion and Help
River
Got last evening 100% 
Have done it with the Leighwyn's ALT+TAB method.
Thats works great.
Thanks for the maps and al suggestion in this forum.
Have done it with the Leighwyn's ALT+TAB method.
Thats works great.
Thanks for the maps and al suggestion in this forum.
Guinevere Ac
Grandmaster aswell. ty
Xenrath
I've not looked through all the posts but has anyone used Dougal's Difference Layer analysis technique for the 100% cantha map? As posted in the "tips for tyrian grandmaster" thread in the tyrian explorers' league.
I'm working towards grandmaster of Cantha as well, got 15% or so left yet and was wondering if that technique works for canthan map too.
I'm working towards grandmaster of Cantha as well, got 15% or so left yet and was wondering if that technique works for canthan map too.
SolidShadow
sergor heres a 0.1% for you
http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/1025/gw171og9.jpg
look a the 3bij3milimeter isle on the left downstairs. thats 50% blurred
should be 100% clear
http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/1025/gw171og9.jpg
look a the 3bij3milimeter isle on the left downstairs. thats 50% blurred
should be 100% clear
Mournblade
LoL - you got the answer in the other thread. 
(no)
(no)
Skallagrimson
99.1% Tyrian character.
I think I'm blind from comparing and flipping back and forth.
Shyft, ya got a keen eye.
Peek at these if you please.
I will work it small bit by small bit.
Any places you see on these two?
I think I'm blind from comparing and flipping back and forth.
Shyft, ya got a keen eye.
Peek at these if you please.
I will work it small bit by small bit.
Any places you see on these two?
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Skallagrimson
I think I'm blind from comparing and flipping back and forth.
Shyft, ya got a keen eye.
Peek at these if you please.
Any places you see on these two?
You're still missing:
-east wall of Haiju Lagoon;
-north wall of Jaya Bluffs;
-SW corner of Haiju Lagoon (uncover from inside Zen Daijun);
-east wall of Zen Daijun.
You'd be a lot further away from the title if you didn't open up the Monastery Overlook during the festival.
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Come to think of it, I was having similar problems the one time I PUGed myself a banishment buddy in Imperial Sanctum. He was a ranger, and I set up my E/Mo with Armor of Mist and Mist Form to engage but survive Shiro, and to lose the bound bosses' aggro once my partner was banished. I never got banished on that run.|
Originally Posted by Xenrath
I've not looked through all the posts but has anyone used Dougal's Difference Layer analysis technique for the 100% cantha map? As posted in the "tips for tyrian grandmaster" thread in the tyrian explorers' league.
I'm working towards grandmaster of Cantha as well, got 15% or so left yet and was wondering if that technique works for canthan map too. My image editing skills are meager at best, but I think I remember Leighwyn (or someone else) commenting that the technique does not work as well for Cantha because the fog "blends" much more closely with uncovered areas. I believe I read it somewhere in this thread, but don't have the time to go back through it and check for the posts right now. Cherno
Xenrath, I believe I read in the other thread that it doesn't work well for canthan maps because of the coloring differences being too similar between the terrain and the cloud (especially in the kurzik side)
Is there any way to get the rest of the map from Shiro's area? I went in and he banished me to one spot and was able to unlock a good % there, but he either won't banish me or keeps banishing me to the same spot. I need to get to those other 3 sides.
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Cherno
Is there any way to get the rest of the map from Shiro's area? I went in and he banished me to one spot and was able to unlock a good % there, but he either won't banish me or keeps banishing me to the same spot. I need to get to those other 3 sides.  The only thing you can do to uncover the Imperial Sanctum is hug the walls of both the banishment path and the battle area. You need a partner for the first, but you can do the second on your own: just walk the edges without engaging Shiro and you'll uncover a good chunk. Of course, the above is just speculation. I don't have a screenie of what you've already uncovered, so it's quite possible that you're not missing anything in there at all if you've explored it as fully as you say. Cherno
Great thanks. I was of the understanding that you needed all the paths. Will continue to work on it tonight.
I am not posting maps yet because I am still at least 15% away and know where to go. A guildie is at 99.5 or something and having problems and were working on Imperial Sanctum last night.
Ara Dax
Dunno if this has been mentioned, but I had great trouble getting banished as a warrior. Somewhere in this topic someone stated it was based on lowest HP or weakness.
Well I tested this with a guildie on a dual run, and also tested Armor levels, and still no banishment. In the end I wondered if it was distance related. And Woosh, instant banish. Retry's proved this theory. So, you have to be the furthest away to get banished. (...imo...) Perhaps someone else can prove / double check this.
moko
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Originally Posted by Ara Dax
Dunno if this has been mentioned, but I had great trouble getting banished as a warrior. Somewhere in this topic someone stated it was based on lowest HP or weakness.
Well I tested this with a guildie on a dual run, and also tested Armor levels, and still no banishment. In the end I wondered if it was distance related. And Woosh, instant banish. Retry's proved this theory. So, you have to be the furthest away to get banished. (...imo...) Perhaps someone else can prove / double check this. in fact, when i played on my monk, i always did the HP check, i always was the lowest, with groups or with two. i kept getting banished RIGHT away when i came close to shiro (with my friend or the group staying back), or when i just came back from the banishment. if only checked this as a monk though, not with anything else, so i dont know. but from MY experience, its the HP. Kyamo
I found this topic at 98.6% and got another 1% using Leighwyns technique, so now I'm stumped at 99.6%! I need a new set of eyes on these two spots. Do you think there is still any fog there? If so, how can I get to it, since I have already gotten as close as I think I can in both places. (first one is north of aspenwood, second is in unwaking). Thanks in advance.
Mournblade
Woot! Perseverance FTW!
Xenrath
How much percent does Jade Quarry battle area add up to? I can't even get in there... never any opposing team
Leighwyn
0.4-0.6ish
I'm in the middle of moving cross-country so I haven'tbeen able to update my map, but I HAVE filled in new spots and I WILL update it when I finally get the chance to. At least everyone here has Shyft to help them along in my absense
Mournblade
Oddly, I only got .2% from Jade Quarry. I don't know how I managed that, but I was paying particular attention to my score before and after I finally got in and i'm sure thats all I got. (I was probably at like, 98.21% before and ended at 98.49% hehehe)
Skallagrimson
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
You're still missing:
-east wall of Haiju Lagoon; -north wall of Jaya Bluffs; -SW corner of Haiju Lagoon (uncover from inside Zen Daijun); -east wall of Zen Daijun. Well, I got one dot from those on the Jaya Bluffs. Cleared them all and walked back and forth. It did give me a +.1%, though. Next block. I know that I don't have the Jade battle area. I'm working on finding a time when I can get in there.  Thanks again.
Xenrath
I'm at 99.4% - pretty sure I'm missing the northern edge of Imperial Sanctum (presumably the banishment areas)
I've also never been in Jade Quarry at all. Hopefully those combined will add up to the missing 0.6%, however, I can never get into the Quarry Did anyone get 100% without ever going into Jade Quarry battle zone?
moko
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Originally Posted by Xenrath
I'm at 99.4% - pretty sure I'm missing the northern edge of Imperial Sanctum (presumably the banishment areas)
I've also never been in Jade Quarry at all. Hopefully those combined will add up to the missing 0.6%, however, I can never get into the Quarry Did anyone get 100% without ever going into Jade Quarry battle zone? well, looking at it, Jade Quarry should give you around the same amount as the Arena + The Overlook, so if you see them as equal area, Leighwyn did it since on that date, no Tyria chars could access either of them. :P so technically..yeah, its possible. however, you will have to find more spots by wallhugging which will probably be more of a pain than going there with some others. but besides the point, getting some guildies or people from the alliance to go there REALLY aint hard.
Xenrath
edit: ok managed to get in... 99.8% now
 Quarry is 0.4%
Sergor
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Originally Posted by SolidShadow
Shyft the Pyro
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ara Dax
Well I tested this with a guildie on a dual run, and also tested Armor levels, and still no banishment. In the end I wondered if it was distance related. And Woosh, instant banish. Retry's proved this theory. So, you have to be the furthest away to get banished. (...imo...) Perhaps someone else can prove / double check this. |
, i just took the title some post beforeQuote: Originally Posted by Kyamo I found this topic at 98.6% and got another 1% using Leighwyns technique, so now I'm stumped at 99.6%! I need a new set of eyes on these two spots. Do you think there is still any fog there? If so, how can I get to it, since I have already gotten as close as I think I can in both places. (first one is north of aspenwood, second is in unwaking). Thanks in advance. The left spot is a definite yes, simply because I've seen it so many times. For the right spot (and to confirm you're missing the left spot) I'd much rather have a fullsize screenshot of your "U" window to compare to Leighwyn's map by the ALT+TAB method. It's the only way to be certain.
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenrath How much percent does Jade Quarry battle area add up to? Quote: Originally Posted by Leighwyn 0.4-0.6ish Quote:
Oddly, I only got .2% from Jade Quarry.
Uncovering a single spot of fog does not automatically give you 0.1% toward the title. In my experience, each spot amounts to about 1/3 of 0.1%, since it took about 3 of them to move my exploration bar. I'd estimate the Jade Quarry at 0.4% conservatively - if you hug the walls and go inside the side quarries and uncover all the edges, I'd easily call it a 0.5% - but because everyone will enter the battle at different "hidden" percentage, there is no guarantee that everyone will receive the same exploration % advancement, especially since most people fail to clear everything on the first run (the Quarry is actually a fun area, you know )
I'd still say that if you only got 0.2% from it you need to go back. Check against Leighwyn's map to see if you're still missing things inside.
You can pick up your title by uncovering:
-north wall of Raisu Palace explorable;
-east wall of Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside the outpost);
-west wall of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-NW corner of Shenzun Tunnels;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside the outpost);
-SE corner of Nahpui Quarter mission;
-NW corner of Sunjiang District explorable;
-north part of the "farmland" spot east of Maatu Keep;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-center of Boreas Seabed explorable;
-NE and SE corners of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-west wall and SE corner of Jade Quarry battle area;
-NW corner of Arborstone explorable (on the "top level");
-center of Melandru's Hope;
-north wall of Vasburg Armory outpost;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-NW corner of Unwaking Waters explorable.
Now get into those outposts and get your title!
)I'd still say that if you only got 0.2% from it you need to go back. Check against Leighwyn's map to see if you're still missing things inside.
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You managed to get into the Monastery Overlook during the festival, so you're far from stuck. |
Originally Posted by Skallagrimson
Next block
You're missing:
-NW corner of Eternal Grove explorable; -NW corner and east wall of Unwaking Waters explorable; -SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost; -NE corner and north and south walls of Mourning Veil Falls; -north wall of Ferndale; -NE and SE corners of Fort Aspenwood battle area; -all of Jade Quarry battle area. Out of curiosity, why not just post all your screenshots at once?
Ara Dax
WOOHOO 100% On Tyria and now on Canthan
Now for my other 4 chars...
Xenrath
Ok guys, I've managed to get up to 99.9% - got an extra 0.1% from the top left banishment area at the end there.
However, I'm stuck where to pick up 0.1% Please can someone have a look at this and see if they can spot anything? edit: please see below for 100% map It's a 99.9% completed map stitched together from minimap segments. Much appreciated! p.s. I do have the Shing Jea arena (well the bit I could map, too high level to go inside)
Juicey Shake
yer missing a tiny bit of the festival area if yer tyrian born too late, otherwise hug the wall of where you kill your first mantid / the wurms were
other than that, if D A R K F A I T H still controls eredon terrace talk to someone from the alliance and have them invite you to the guild, easy 0.5% [took me from 99.3to 99.8 at least, I might have been at 99.39 and it's actually only .41 but whatever, all ya nee dis .2~~]
Xenrath
Yep Tyrian (my first every GW char) - kicked myself once I noticed I didn't get all the training/festival area during the event. Which mantids/wurms would those be? If the canthan training ones, can't get there anymore I think.
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Xenrath
However, I'm stuck where to pick up 0.1% Please can someone have a look at this and see if they can spot anything? |
You can pick up your title by uncovering:
-north wall of Raisu Palace explorable;
-east wall of Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside the outpost);
-west wall of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-NW corner of Shenzun Tunnels;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor (uncover from inside the outpost);
-SE corner of Nahpui Quarter mission;
-NW corner of Sunjiang District explorable;
-north part of the "farmland" spot east of Maatu Keep;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-center of Boreas Seabed explorable;
-NE and SE corners of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-west wall and SE corner of Jade Quarry battle area;
-NW corner of Arborstone explorable (on the "top level");
-center of Melandru's Hope;
-north wall of Vasburg Armory outpost;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-SE corner of Kurzick Unwaking Waters outpost;
-NW corner of Unwaking Waters explorable.
Now get into those outposts and get your title!
Xenrath
Woohoo! Thanks very much Shyft, that was the ticket
I scraped along the SW of Zin Ku Corridor; no obvious change to map that I noticed. North Wall Vasburg; again nothing happened that I could tell.
North Wall of Boreas Seabed outpost - that ticked it over Good set of eyes you got there. Might just go ahead and do the rest mentioned for completeness hehe
Pic where it happened (just over that bridge which I must have missed lol)
Now to figure out which title to do for Kind of a Big Deal
I scraped along the SW of Zin Ku Corridor; no obvious change to map that I noticed. North Wall Vasburg; again nothing happened that I could tell.
North Wall of Boreas Seabed outpost - that ticked it over
Pic where it happened (just over that bridge which I must have missed lol)
Now to figure out which title to do for Kind of a Big Deal
Leighwyn
you should hide your skillbar, it reveals one of the deadlier combos in guild wars.
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Leighwyn
you should hide your skillbar, it reveals one of the deadlier combos in guild wars.
Deadlier being the right word!
Congrats on the title
EDIT: The reason you got nothing in Zin Ku Corridor might be because the spot is uncovered not from the area with the gods' statues but from the spot south of the zone point to Tahnnakai Temple explorable, in the corner behind a collector.
Congrats on the title
EDIT: The reason you got nothing in Zin Ku Corridor might be because the spot is uncovered not from the area with the gods' statues but from the spot south of the zone point to Tahnnakai Temple explorable, in the corner behind a collector.
greenchylde
this question probably has a pretty obvious answer but should i go back into the mission areas and map them?
Thailii Monkey
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Originally Posted by Ara Dax
WOOHOO 100% On Tyria and now on Canthan
Now for my other 4 chars...
hehe good luck
Now for my other 4 chars...
hehe good luck
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by greenchylde
Yes because there are certain spots in certain mission areas reachable from the mission path only - like the east wall of Vizunah Square and the SE corner of Unwaking Waters - which people usually miss on their first pass because they're focused on getting through the game and not uncovering fog.
No because many mission areas in Factions are smaller than their explorable counterparts. For example, Zen Daijun and Tahnnakai Temple both have gates that are locked during the mission, and the Nahpui Quarter explorable does not overlap the mission area at all.
If you really want to know the answer, compare your map to Leighwyn's by using the method and the map he posted on page 2 of this thread. That way, you'll know beforehand if you're missing any spots in any specific areas, and won't have to blindly walk the edges of every single zone in hope of uncovering more fog.
greenchylde
ok im really nervous because im at 81.6 and have been everywhere i just have to fully map the city and kurzick areas. i was kinda hoping that some was hiding in mission areas.
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by greenchylde
-explore all mission areas except for Dragon's Throat. This includes Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry, Amatz Basin, Aurios Mines, Altrumm Ruins, and Zos Shivros Channel. They all count towards the exploration title.
-make sure to enter the explorable areas that differ from their mission counterparts significantly. Tahnnakai Temple explorable is about double the size of the mission path, and Nahpui Quarter is actually two different zones as mentioned earlier.
-walk the walls of every zone on Shing Jea Island. With the possible exception of Zen Daijun, it's easy enough to solo everything there. Clearing fog on Shing Jea Island is as easy as it gets, second only to clearing fog from inside an outpost.
When you get to about 90% I recommend comparing your map to Leighwyn's by using the ALT+TAB method he posted on page 2 of this thread so you can pinpoint the deviations and zero in on them.
greenchylde
great thanks. i have totally explored shing jea i think but have not done the mission areas at all as you have outlined so ill prollly get a bunch there =D sweet! i do wish i could find a mapping buddy tho cause some areas are just difficult with henchies only and i feel bad having a whole group go in. im sure if everyone else can manage i can as well. i got a whole percentage last night!
Xenrath
Ok thought I'd help out a bit. Here is my 100% map, minimap shots stitched together from 1280x1024 shots. I found the reference 100% map from early in this thread wasn't quite the same size as my ingame minimap so had to keep moving it around subtly to line it up.
1280x1024 Minimap Segments. Right Click, Save Target As - 1.27Mb
I've gone ahead and stripped out large non-explorable chunks. That should help narrow down by region. I left in some non-explorable fog at edges etc. for reference. Hope that helps! Good luck fellow cartographers
p.s. This is my 100% one, obviously there are some more specks around which add up to more than 100% as mentioned above.
1280x1024 Minimap Segments. Right Click, Save Target As - 1.27Mb
I've gone ahead and stripped out large non-explorable chunks. That should help narrow down by region. I left in some non-explorable fog at edges etc. for reference. Hope that helps! Good luck fellow cartographers
p.s. This is my 100% one, obviously there are some more specks around which add up to more than 100% as mentioned above.
Evilsod
Where is Leighwyns 100% map? I have a version of it but it doesn't seem to be the most recent.
Leighwyn
The link's on page 2...I haven't updated it in a while since I've been fluidly traveling all over the country for like 1.5 months as of now, but once I finally resettle I'll add all the tithers I've filled in since last update.